Wynn (Las Vegas, NV)

*** Moderator Note *** by Lattimer m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=31929898#post31929898)

This thread is for discussing topics relevant to the Wynn resort & casino (and Encore) in Las Vegas NV.

*** /Note *** In another thread I saw these comments: So I hear that you guys got a new director of poker operations. JV who was grave shift at the V. Have I heard right?

The Wynn Poker Room is happy to introduce Joe Vigurs as our new Poker Room Director.

The Wynn Poker Room is excited to introduce him as our new Director of Poker. We look forward to working with him. His brings a lot of knowledge and experience to our room.

apparently, donna harris was replaced a week ago by a former shift manager from the venetian. why isn't there a thread discussing this?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/199/po... (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/199/poker-venues/wynn-las-vegas-nv-1093196/index5.html) I'm surprised there hasn't been a thread on this topic. I wonder what people think of the change. Also, their Facebook page mentions the lower rake for limit games. Here's a few quotes: Wynn Las Vegas Poker Room Starting Sunday 3/4/12 at Noon The Wynn Poker Room will offer a $2 max rake to ALL Limit Hold'em. For more information please call (702) 770-7654.

Wynn Las Vegas Poker Room Starting our $2 max rake 8-16 Limit hold'em game. Come to the Wynn to join! Call (702) 770-7654 to add your name to any list.

Wynn Las Vegas Poker Room Starting a 4-8 Limit $2 max rake game. Come play. Call (702) 770-7654 to add your name to any list. To view all current live games : http://wynnpoker.com/realtime.cfm

http://www.facebook.com/WynnLasVegasPoke... (http://www.facebook.com/WynnLasVegasPokerRoom?sk=wall) The lower rake is a great deal and I wanted to help get the word out. Unfortunately, the 8-16 game had died by the time I got there in the evening, and there were five names on the list when I left. There was also a list for 30-60 but only one name on it. On the other hand, today is only the second day with a $2 rake. It will be interesting to see how much of a difference the lower rake makes with their limit games.

Does the Wynn poker room have available safe deposit boxes? Or has anyone used their player’s bank before—is it easy or a hassle?

by mister305 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59084541#post59084541)

Does the Wynn poker room have available safe deposit boxes? Or has anyone used their player’s bank before—is it easy or a hassle?

It's worth stopping by there and checking out the wynn PLO games. You can get on the list with poker atlas and play it sometime. The room is really nice, and they have good action there similar as to Aria. I didn't ask them about the player's accounts in Vegas, but in Macau it was very standard to leave and get chips from the cage at the Wynn,

Is this a good place to have a few beers and play PLO? For 1/2 PLO? 5 / 5 PLO? Friendly / Chill usually?

The last trip I made in Vegas, and I was at Wynn they had 2 games going:

1. 5 5 10 that runs with a straddle 95% of the time.
2. 1/2 PLO 5 dollars to bring it in. Have they ever thought about putting in a middle stakes game? Like a 3/6 game or a 2/5 with a rock or anything like that? Because that's a big jump going from 1/2 up to 5 5 10 20 - And the "5 5" game isn't running every day there all year. Nice Poker room. Cheers!

by Namaste1974 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59218973#post59218973)

Is this a good place to have a few beers and play PLO? For 1/2 PLO? 5 / 5 PLO? Friendly / Chill usually?

I play the 1/2 and the people are friendly.

The Wynn is now offering 5/5/10 PLO. The rock has been cancelled. Optional Straddles are allowed UTG.

by EqanimityPo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59241999#post59241999)

The Wynn is now offering 5/5/10 PLO. The rock has been cancelled. Optional Straddles are allowed UTG.

Interesting that they snapped copied Aria's 20 rock and then changed to this after a month or two. Poker Atlas also says the max is now 2500 when it was 3000 before.

Everyone is going to copy Aria when it comes to PLO to try and poach the player pool.

by EqanimityPo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59241999#post59241999)

The Wynn is now offering 5/5/10 PLO. The rock has been cancelled. Optional Straddles are allowed UTG.

Why have 5/5/10 with optional 20 straddle? Just make it 5/10/20 (no rock!) without the option to straddle. Then the game is perfect, and you have a chance to steal PLO action from Aria.

by mister305 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59245902#post59245902)

Why have 5/5/10 with optional 20 straddle? Just make it 5/10/20 (no rock!) without the option to straddle. Then the game is perfect, and you have a chance to steal PLO action from Aria.

I agree, because the high pressure straddle scenario is very likely at this venue IMO.

I think 5/5/10 optional straddle has some upsides: NO rock 5/5/10 is there as a possible mid stakes game I'm guessing it would run with a straddle 90% of the time but if not, it's good to have an intermediate limit. The best games are the ones where some people straddle, and without asking the whole table to do it.

5/10/20 with OPTIONAL straddle (floor needs to come down hard on anyone trying to coerce others to put the 40 on!) would be the nuts.

What if they try to coerce others to put the straddle on at the 5 5 10? I think they should just ban the straddle at that point at 5 5 10 and offer a higher limit like 5/10/25 From what I saw before, it's going to be a lot of regs there trying to coerce the straddle, unless things changed.

Does anyone know how strict Wynn are with their poker room rate / hours played? Last time I went in a of peak period I played 8-10hrs a day but it wasn’t in a time I would like to be somewhere else (I.e another property for WSOP). I can get a great rate almost always here and really only wanna stay here but kind of want to skirt on the hours otherwise it’s insanely expensive.

by dappadan777 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59254987#post59254987)

Does anyone know how strict Wynn are with their poker room rate / hours played? Last time I went in a of peak period I played 8-10hrs a day but it wasn’t in a time I would like to be somewhere else (I.e another property for WSOP). I can get a great rate almost always here and really only wanna stay here but kind of want to skirt on the hours otherwise it’s insanely expensive.

Anyone have any insight on this? I am wondering the same thing.

For regs who have played the 5/10 or 10/20 NL games recently. What are your thoughts on the BB ante + no straddle structure, now that they've had that implemented into their games for a while? Pros and cons?

by phunkyplum m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59274528#post59274528)

Anyone have any insight on this? I am wondering the same thing.

Still haven’t heard and it’s not likely something I will bring up with host. I know you have to provide your card in/out of games to track it and it is a little ambiguous give you can play for abit then leave for a couple hours if you get picked up - do they swipe you out? Last time I went where I played 40hrs over a 3 day period I had surpassed the amount needed to get the rate but no idea if they are looking closely - if you find out lmk and vice versa I’ll DM you too. In my last trip I was winning the first 24hrs and would’ve liked to have quit, but then ended up buried & was ‘forced’ to play because I didn’t want a a further $7-800/night bill lol Might be worth asking on Reddit too or an anon phone call 😀

I was told by a former dealer that Wynn used to allow button straddle. Do they still allow button straddle? (If yes, I would love to give them all my grinding hours!)

by bigoilboomer m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59289086#post59289086)

I was told by a former dealer that Wynn used to allow button straddle. Do they still allow button straddle? (If yes, I would love to give them all my grinding hours!)

The good old nit stradddle

5/5/10-rock/20 PLO used to run at Wynn most days. After the changes to 5/10/20-rock at Aria and 5/5/10 at Wynn, it seems like Wynn struggles to get a 5/5/10 going a lot of days. If Wynn allowed button straddles at 1/2 and abandoned their hopes on the bigger game, I wonder if they could take a big market share away from 1/2 at Aria.

Why not offer up a 2/5 with optional straddle for a mid-stakes option? If the 5 5 10 game isn't running very often, hardly ever, offer more options.

5/5/10 was supposed to bridge the huge gap between 1/2 and 5/10/20. But people aren't playing it that much.

by bigoilboomer m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59302450#post59302450)

5/5/10-rock/20 PLO used to run at Wynn most days. After the changes to 5/10/20-rock at Aria and 5/5/10 at Wynn, it seems like Wynn struggles to get a 5/5/10 going a lot of days. If Wynn allowed button straddles at 1/2 and abandoned their hopes on the bigger game, I wonder if they could take a big market share away from 1/2 at Aria.

No it didn't. Outside of wynn series and wsop it would go a couple of days a week at most. I much prefer Wynn to Aria and have had many weeks long Vegas trips where I barely played at Wynn bc the 5/5 rock game rarely went at Wynn.

Ryan Kirk, you better step it up and make more changes at Wynn if you want to take PLO market share away from Aria.

Is the big PLO game straight 5/5/10? Or is everyone straddling or blind raising to 20?

Is the big PLO game straight 5/5/10? Or is everyone straddling or blind raising to 20? Probably the straddle would be running if they could get it going most of the time. Unless they banned it and made it a 2/5/10 or a 5/5/10 without straddles allowed

Straddles and blind raises used to be banned when they first changed the game to 5/5/10. Then the bum regs bullied management into allowing "optional" (but highly enforced) 20 straddles (and sometimes 40 blind raises) again. There's no true 5/5/10 in Vegas. You either play small (1/2, infrequent straddles, lots of hands folded to the blinds who then chop, lots of cheater min 200 stacks who sit out of bomb pots out of position and play them in position). Or you play big.

[QUOTE=bigoilboomer;59408076]Straddles and blind raises used to be banned when they first changed the game to 5/5/10. Then the bum regs bullied management into allowing "optional" (but highly enforced) 20 straddles (and sometimes 40 blind raises) again. There's no true 5/5/10 in Vegas. You either play small (1/2, infrequent straddles, lots of hands folded to the blinds who then chop, lots of cheater min 200 stacks who sit out of bomb pots out of position and play them in position). Or you play big.[/QUOTE] this is an amazingly accurate summary of plo in Vegas right now. When I was there i'd always call out the scumbags who sit out of bomb pots until they're in position.

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59408452#post59408452)

When I was there i'd always call out the scumbags who sit out of bomb pots until they're in position.

I do this too. But sadly you're the bad guy when you call them out.

The Vegas mis regs have shown that they aren't smart enough or cool enough to deserve the privileges to straddle or anything that involves being respectful or have any social or long-term intelligence. I would go in there and punt off a few thousand dollars and have some French or German local Vegas idiot lose his mind if I got lucky and hit my 2 outer when I was trying to make these games awesome. Why have the most of the mid to high-stakes games in Vegas gone private? I've played all over Asia and U.S. and Vegas had the biggest *******s out of all of those venues from my experience.

by Namaste1974 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59408923#post59408923)

The Vegas mis regs have shown that they aren't smart enough or cool enough to deserve the privileges to straddle or anything that involves being respectful or have any social or long-term intelligence.I would go in there and punt off a few thousand dollars and have some French or German local Vegas idiot lose his mind if I got lucky and hit my 2 outer when I was trying to make ... See full post

I couldn't agree more. The plo pool is infested with euros and even the Americans are the biggest bunch if mis regs I've seen anywhere. Sure any player pool has a few but it's out of control there. They also like to just demand things with zero tact whatsoever. Just yelling at some random it's there straddle before they can even get situated in the game. When the rock was still 10 at Aria if some reg (usually a short stacker) was trying to force people to straddle I'd tell them I'll straddle if nobody runs it twice. If you want to play bigger play bigger for real. That always got some fun reactions.

Vegas is supposed to be the poker capital. But it's literally the worst place to play poker. The regs and traveling pros far outnumber casual tourists—even on the weekends. How is anyone making more than $15 per hour at 1/3 NLH, $30 at 1/2 PLO, $30 at 2/5 NLH, $45 at 5/10 NLH, or $60 at 5/10 PLO? The best players in these games can make double anywhere else.

The Wynn has a 5/10/20 stakes PLO running tonight listed on Poker Atlas Super nice room Clean and Spacious