Diamond in a Day - CET Total Rewards

Is it still possible to get Diamond in a Day? I have read about it in the past, just curious.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58394348#post58394348)

It would be the equivalent of that. But of course, they would never do that with blackjack, because players would notice very quickly. It’s easier to do it when the average bet calculation is more obscure, as it is with many table games. So it’s not that simple. Most table games have a variety of bets which can be made in one hand. For example, three card poker at CZE has an an... See full post

The last one is easy to answer. For one thing, you can make bets and win money. Can't do that online in many states. The other reason is you can get free drinks. It's crazy how motivated some people are by fifty bucks worth of free booze.

Just checked my Caesar’s app, it still says I’m diamond plus even though I only had 12k tier points this year. Did they just not update yet? I even got my monthly sports bet of $30

You get it through January

Ah ok copy thanks.

by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58399717#post58399717)

Just checked my Caesar’s app, it still says I’m diamond plus even though I only had 12k tier points this year. Did they just not update yet? I even got my monthly sports bet of $30

Is that like getting a free 30 bucks to bet with? Is it a use-it-or-lose-it thing? Or would you have $60 in February if you didn't bet this month?

it expires in a month Diamond gets $20 + extra $20 on the month of your birth date, 7 stars $150

by Alpha Fish m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400286#post58400286)

it expires in a month Diamond gets $20 + extra $20 on the month of your birth date, 7 stars $150

You actually have to opt in now and get 30 days from there so you can opt in on the 31st and have it for another 30 days.

Doesn’t roll over, use it or lose it situation

You also need to have bet $100 in the previous month to get the monthly bonus bet now. This changed sometime in 2023.

Aha, so I will never get the free 20.

Anyone know if the Founderscard and Caesars diamond partnership has been extended for 2024?

by Mastahead m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403146#post58403146)

Anyone know if the Founderscard and Caesars diamond partnership has been extended for 2024?

Talk to this guy Randall Stevens, he’s the ultimate resource on getting a Diamond card easy

I don't have any personal experience with Founders, but it does look like the Hilton -> Wyndham -> Caesars may be open again (obviously cut out Hilton if you don't need it).

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403260#post58403260)

I don't have any personal experience with Founders, but it does look like the Hilton -> Wyndham -> Caesars may be open again (obviously cut out Hilton if you don't need it).

The Wyndham tier match is not earned status so it won't work for a Caesars Diamond match. Only earned Wyndham status such as staying 40 nights at a Wyndham property per year will work. But it must be a property with a $25 or more daily rate.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403295#post58403295)

The Wyndham tier match is not earned status so it won't work for a Caesars Diamond match. Only earned Wyndham status such as staying 40 nights at a Wyndham property per year will work. But it must be a property with a $25 or more daily rate.

Has this changed since a few years ago? Caesars backtracked when they tried to shut it down a few years ago. IIRC, they were trying to cut down on the match loop, but backtracked when a CC was used to earn the status through Wyndham. I don't even think Wyndham was offering a status match a year ago (or maybe 2). EDIT.. my point was a $95 Amex card gets you diamond through Hilton as long as they recognized that as earned status, which they eventually relented to a few years ago.

Seven star came through but I never got a confirmation email or anything. A bit quirky but took 4 weeks on the dot.

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403310#post58403310)

Has this changed since a few years ago? Caesars backtracked when they tried to shut it down a few years ago. IIRC, they were trying to cut down on the match loop, but backtracked when a CC was used to earn the status through Wyndham.I don't even think Wyndham was offering a status match a year ago (or maybe 2).EDIT.. my point was a $95 Amex card gets you diamond through Hilton ... See full post

Yes it fully changed in 2023 so now only the Wyndham business card with $95 fee gives a matchable Diamond tier to Caesars. Therefore no point in getting an Amex card when only the Wyndham business card will do it. Basically either one must get the $95 annual fee Wyndham business card or match MGM tier status in Atlantic City Caesars Palace which allows a match for existing members once every two years since the Las Vegas properties will not match existing Caesars members. Or the thousand hours of poker at the Horseshoe. The Uber rides from the ACY airport to Caesars Palace and back about equal the annual $95 fee unless one lands in Philadelphia and takes the Septa bus and train for about $20 each way.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403382#post58403382)

Yes it fully changed in 2023 so now only the Wyndham business card with $95 fee gives a matchable Diamond tier to Caesars. Therefore no point in getting an Amex card when only the Wyndham business card will do it.

That sucks. Can you post a link?

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403388#post58403388)

That sucks. Can you post a link?

It was from the flyertalk site and also even the stay ten nights at Wyndham to keep the Diamond tier match was found by flyertalk to not constitute a matchable Caesars status.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403382#post58403382)

Atlantic City Caesars Palace

Well, this seems legit.

by Mastahead m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403146#post58403146)

Anyone know if the Founderscard and Caesars diamond partnership has been extended for 2024?

Yes the Founders card still works it is usually $395 or sometimes as low as $295 per year.

It's still showing up on the FC website. I imagine if they ever get rid of it we won't know until Feb. 1.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403458#post58403458)

Yes the Founders card still works it is usually $395 or sometimes as low as $295 per year.

How do you know it still works? It's not available for another month.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403458#post58403458)

Yes the Founders card still works it is usually $395 or sometimes as low as $295 per year.

Last time someone sent me a link it was $595 or something around there So you can get Diamond card by getting the $95 annual fee Wyndham card or no?

Caesars ran a promotion, I believe it ran from November 1-December 31 and you would be credited 20% of the tier credits earned it this period in 2024. Does anyone know when these will be applied.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403822#post58403822)

Last time someone sent me a link it was $595 or something around there So you can get Diamond card by getting the $95 annual fee Wyndham card or no?

I'm not sure why you care as the CR Visa is giving you so many TC, but yes it was possible. https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/partne... (https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/partners/wyndham_resorts)

They now specifically state that you can't match from other matches. Gaining status through a CC is still gaining status. However, if you read the terms and conditions it now sounds like you can only do this if you are a new member? Can we get a lawyer in here?

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403948#post58403948)

I'm not sure why you care as the CR Visa is giving you so many TC, but yes it was possible.https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/partne... (https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/partners/wyndham_resorts) They now specifically state that you can't match from other matches. Gaining status through a CC is still gaining status.However, if you read the terms and conditions it now sounds like you can only do this if you are a new member... See full post

I’m gathering information to see if I need to spike the football in your face. It would be like Gannon waving to Philly crowd after beating the Eagles in Philly lol

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403975#post58403975)

I’m gathering information to see if I need to spike the football in your face. It would be like Gannon waving to Philly crowd after beating the Eagles in Philly lol

You seem to not notice that I don't give a ****. I already said that I was given diamond last year that I didn't earn. I'm just trying to offer information, which you seem to find insulting.

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403982#post58403982)

You seem to not notice that I don't give a ****. I already said that I was given diamond last year that I didn't earn. I'm just trying to offer information, which you seem to find insulting.

And I was sharing my experiences with Credit Card, and you threw a hissy fit Lmao

Just let me know when we are doing the sliders

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404052#post58404052)

Just let me know when we are doing the sliders

Unless you are paying... never. I just got my SB offer. mark is still invited.

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404057#post58404057)

Unless you are paying... never. I just got my SB offer. mark is still invited.

And the hissy fit continues

Went to Gordan Ramsay Burger at PH. Used the Diamond celebration without issue - skipped the big line by going to the counter and showing my card. Burgers, fries, and oreo shakes were all delicious. Would do again.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403295#post58403295)

The Wyndham tier match is not earned status so it won't work for a Caesars Diamond match. Only earned Wyndham status such as staying 40 nights at a Wyndham property per year will work. But it must be a property with a $25 or more daily rate.

It's still hit or miss.

by Your Mom m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404061#post58404061)

Went to Gordan Ramsay Burger at PH. Used the Diamond celebration without issue - skipped the big line by going to the counter and showing my card. Burgers, fries, and oreo shakes were all delicious. Would do again.

Fyi you can use the drink vouchers for shakes here.

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404347#post58404347)

Fyi you can use the drink vouchers for shakes here.

This is awesome! We need a list of places that we can use our free drinks for milkshakes. Anyone know any other places?

Probably places like Flavortown, and other CET owned restaurants.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58391522#post58391522)

Lol yeah, I’m FoS. It’s my evil plan to get people to apply for CC It’s just butthurt impacting brain

I am more curious than anything. Exactly what do you think I am butthurt about? I am sure I will find this entertaining.

by wsopfinaltable m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404383#post58404383)

This is awesome! We need a list of places that we can use our free drinks for milkshakes. Anyone know any other places?

Bobby's burgers in Harrahs but not Bobby's burgers in horseshoe.

by JimL m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404964#post58404964)

I am more curious than anything. Exactly what do you think I am butthurt about? I am sure I will find this entertaining.

If it’s not butthurt it has to be something warping your thought process to think I would possibly lie about a CC bonus being hit by a 5x multiplier. So you have to let me know. Normal people would realize that something like that could easily happen and say I got lucky. But then a few Mensas on here think I would work for VISA or I’m just a weird Pinocchio for no reason lol I am sure I will find this entertaining.

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403948#post58403948)

I'm not sure why you care as the CR Visa is giving you so many TC, but yes it was possible.https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/partne... (https://www.caesars.com/myrewards/partners/wyndham_resorts) They now specifically state that you can't match from other matches. Gaining status through a CC is still gaining status.However, if you read the terms and conditions it now sounds like you can only do this if you are a new member... See full post

Thats the issue with the regular Caesars Visa which caps the annual tier credits at 5,000 so there is not a way to get Diamond by credit card spend alone with that card. The first year one can earn 7,500 tier credits with the sign up bonus that would then leave 7,500 tier credits needed to be earned which could then be earned with $1,500 coin in on a 10X day for slots.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58405448#post58405448)

Thats the issue with the regular Caesars Visa which caps the annual tier credits at 5,000 so there is not a way to get Diamond by credit card spend alone with that card. The first year one can earn 7,500 tier credits with the sign up bonus that would then leave 7,500 tier credits needed to be earned which could then be earned with $1,500 coin in on a 10X day for slots.

Aside from my slight at scotch I don't know what you're talking about. I specifically posted about matching.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58405448#post58405448)

Thats the issue with the regular Caesars Visa which caps the annual tier credits at 5,000 so there is not a way to get Diamond by credit card spend alone with that card. The first year one can earn 7,500 tier credits with the sign up bonus that would then leave 7,500 tier credits needed to be earned which could then be earned with $1,500 coin in on a 10X day for slots.

Not sure if still the case but the card used to get you 5K + 2.5K + 2.5K = 10K in first year Then if you do simple Quest for Reward stuff you are almost all the way with zero gambling and cost. One ten hour poker session during a multiplier day might be all that you need.

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58405521#post58405521)

Aside from my slight at scotch I don't know what you're talking about. I specifically posted about matching.

Don’t mind Randall topg, he gets very angry when talking about the CR card 😀

My quest in AC to match my new diamond plus to other casinos has ended in failure & rejection: MGM - They told me to come back in Feb, but couldn't tell me if my matching would last 6, 3 or even 1 month. Hard Rock - Matched to rock royalty and got $15 free slot play and a free car wash during a weekend with a god damn hurricane outside. Oceans - They only match Caesar's seven stars. I could match Hard Rock royalty to them but need 18 months of inactive which would of happen by April if I didn't play at their casino this weekend. Caesar's AC property - Food is served in their seven stars lounge only. Diamond lounge gets free chips & pretzels. I now see why they were doing 10x & 5x promo like crazy. You don't get a god damn thing for it! The only thing I have to look forward to now is free 4x waters/teas daily during the WSOP.

by Billy723 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406328#post58406328)

My quest in AC to match my new diamond plus to other casinos has ended in failure & rejection: MGM - They told me to come back in Feb, but couldn't tell me if my matching would last 6, 3 or even 1 month. Hard Rock - Matched to rock royalty and got $15 free slot play and a free car wash during a weekend with a god damn hurricane outside. Oceans - They only match Caesar's seven s... See full post

At least get the MGM FNBO credit card and start putting spend on it to earn tier credits and Pearl

by Billy723 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406328#post58406328)

My quest in AC to match my new diamond plus to other casinos has ended in failure & rejection: MGM - They told me to come back in Feb, but couldn't tell me if my matching would last 6, 3 or even 1 month. Hard Rock - Matched to rock royalty and got $15 free slot play and a free car wash during a weekend with a god damn hurricane outside. Oceans - They only match Caesar's seven s... See full post

They took away the buffet food in the lounges a few days ago and when I went to one people were IRATE about it. I was hoping they were going to destroy the place. Hopefully by April you can tier match to MGM platinum then to ocean. Lmao @the car wash. Last 3 times I tried to the car wash it rained all day.

In before Scotch: I got the car wash in Vegas. It was the best car wash ever. I may never need another car wash again! Vegas never has hurricanes and if they do it'll probably rain money and gold.

I’m wondering, those of you who participate in other loyalty programs (like M-Life, or maybe even Venetian Grazie), have you seen the same sorts of things with them as we’ve seen with CET over the last few years? Namely a big reduction in benefits, while at the same time making it easier (at least on the surface) to get those reduced benefits?

by Billy723 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406328#post58406328)

My quest in AC to match my new diamond plus to other casinos has ended in failure & rejection: Oceans - They only match Caesar's seven stars. I could match Hard Rock royalty to them but need 18 months of inactive which would of happen by April if I didn't play at their casino this weekend.

Gwen matched I think to their lowest tier. She did get a free tshirt. I showed my Cosmo platinum card and quickly gave up after briefly trying to explain the MGM connection.

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406527#post58406527)

In before Scotch: I got the car wash in Vegas. It was the best car wash ever. I may never need another car wash again! Vegas never has hurricanes and if they do it'll probably rain money and gold.

Yeah I was probably going to go after the complainers later today I mean the reason why this thread exists is because some of the perks are pretty good. No one’s running around trying to get the other reward cards as extensively as they are the CR.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406347#post58406347)

At least get the MGM FNBO credit card and start putting spend on it to earn tier credits and Pearl

I have it, but I use Caesar's credit card instead to rack up rewards credit to use during the summer in Vegas. Opening that MGM credit card is paying off. I'm still getting free slot play monthly for last few years. It's only for Springfield MGM tho and not Borgata etc.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406743#post58406743)

Yeah I was probably going to go after the complainers later today I mean the reason why this thread exists is because some of the perks are pretty good. No one’s running around trying to get the other reward cards as extensively as they are the CR.

You’ve proven you have a vibrant imagination in your comments in this thread. Is that where you determined “no one is running around trying to get the other rewards cards”? If not, please specify where you learned this.

by Billy723 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406328#post58406328)

My quest in AC to match my new diamond plus to other casinos has ended in failure & rejection: MGM - They told me to come back in Feb, but couldn't tell me if my matching would last 6, 3 or even 1 month. Hard Rock - Matched to rock royalty and got $15 free slot play and a free car wash during a weekend with a god damn hurricane outside. Oceans - They only match Caesar's seven s... See full post

D+ seems pretty diluted with all of the 10x TC events now. At least get Elite. Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406949#post58406949)

You’ve proven you have a vibrant imagination in your comments in this thread. Is that where you determined “no one is running around trying to get the other rewards cards”? If not, please specify where you learned this.

Where’s the thread on all the great perks of the Sahara rewards card or stuff like that? Yeah sure you get stuff from other places, but it’s the Diamond and Diamond Plus that people really want. And for good reasons. I’m actually trying to help people out by eliminating sources of anger. But feel free to keep shaking your fist. No good deed goes unpunished!

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406967#post58406967)

Where’s the thread on all the great perks of the Sahara rewards card or stuff like that? Yeah sure you get stuff from other places, but it’s the Diamond and Diamond Plus that people really want. And for good reasons. I’m actually trying to help people out by eliminating sources of anger. But feel free to keep shaking your fist. No good deed goes unpunished!

I think you have as much expertise on the threads in this forum as you do how table games are rated. Again, if you have any actual data to back up your assertion as to what people want, I’m all ears. As for the rest, inserting yourself in topics you have no experience or understanding of in an attempt to be contradictory is not some sort of benefit to humanity.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407086#post58407086)

I think you have as much expertise on the threads in this forum as you do how table games are rated. Again, if you have any actual data to back up your assertion as to what people want, I’m all ears. As for the rest, inserting yourself in topics you have no experience or understanding of in an attempt to be contradictory is not some sort of benefit to humanity.

Lmao what data? I’m off to walk to the Strip to get my free cocktails and watch some football. Caesar’s Rewards has been berry berry good to me. And apparently for others as I accurately stated, it is the most chased after rewards card.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407094#post58407094)

Lmao what data? I’m off to walk to the Strip to get my free cocktails and watch some football. Caesar’s Rewards has been berry berry good to me. And apparently for others as I accurately stated, it is the most chased after rewards card.

Wait. You’re not already 3 cocktails in? Oh my.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407141#post58407141)

Wait. You’re not already 3 cocktails in? Oh my.

Lol nah, late start today but a little more interested in later games today

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407094#post58407094)

it is the most chased after rewards card.

This is only because it is the easiest to obtain.

by wsopfinaltable m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407224#post58407224)

This is only because it is the easiest to obtain.

I disagree I don’t even match to chit because you don’t get anything great elsewhere Usually I’m met with laughs if I ask if it’s worth matching it somewhere else

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407240#post58407240)

I disagree I don’t even match to chit because you don’t get anything great elsewhere Usually I’m met with laughs if I ask if it’s worth matching it somewhere else

Not sure if this has been covered in this thread, but I used my diamond elite status to get a comp offer at Hard Rock (prev Mirage) without ever stepping foot on property. Got 3 nights and a $100 food credit by emailing a host there, and wound up giving them very little play. Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

by IOWActuary m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407247#post58407247)

Not sure if this has been covered in this thread, but I used my diamond elite status to get a comp offer at Hard Rock (prev Mirage) without ever stepping foot on property. Got 3 nights and a $100 food credit by emailing a host there, and wound up giving them very little play. Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

Thanks yeah I did go over there to that one I’m former actuary btw

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407250#post58407250)

Thanks yeah I did go over there to that one I’m former actuary btw

Nice, figured a thread about how to exploit loopholes would attract our types Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

Sorry mark, but good luck to your team.

Your Eagles might not make it past WC week. What on earth is going on?

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407347#post58407347)

Your Eagles might not make it past WC week. What on earth is going on?

America's team is back. Go boys! Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

My man!

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407347#post58407347)

Your Eagles might not make it past WC week. What on earth is going on?

I'm still good for a meal for 2 if you are going to be in LV, but please don't make me fly out to see the Eagles or the Cowboys.

Haha, deal. No special trips, only happy coincidence.

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58406433#post58406433)

They took away the buffet food in the lounges a few days ago and when I went to one people were IRATE about it. I was hoping they were going to destroy the place.

Caesars removed the Diamond lounge buffets from all 3 AC casinos, again? lol.. yeah should have expected it with all these 5x and 10x tier multipliers. The endless cycle of bean counters cutting free food, then mid level gamblers stop coming to caesars, free buffet is back

by AA Suited m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407886#post58407886)

Caesars removed the Diamond lounge buffets from all 3 AC casinos, again? lol.. yeah should have expected it with all these 5x and 10x tier multipliers. The endless cycle of bean counters cutting free food, then mid level gamblers stop coming to caesars, free buffet is back

Never been there but my guess is that you don’t want that garbage anyhow. Do they just do the free drinks out in AC?

Woo Hoo! My 5x got credited, and I'm Diamond Plus for the rest of the year. I'm always worried about those being credited because if I don't get credited, it's not like I can prove I played a certain amount at a certain time. What are the mechanics of getting the 4 drinks? Just carry them to the register and flash my player card? I can get 2 free in one place and 2 in another place, right?

by pig4bill m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58408165#post58408165)

… What are the mechanics of getting the 4 drinks? Just carry them to the register and flash my player card? I can get 2 free in one place and 2 in another place, right?

Yes & Yes. Not sure if this is up to date still, but https://www.caesars.com/las-vegas/lvoffe... (https://www.caesars.com/las-vegas/lvoffer) One annoying thing is that to ring up 4 drinks they have to swipe your card for them one at a time, which often takes longer than you’d think it should. Be prepared to show ID also.

by ZenRabbit m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58408241#post58408241)

Yes & Yes. Not sure if this is up to date still, but https://www.caesars.com/las-vegas/lvoffe... (https://www.caesars.com/las-vegas/lvoffer) One annoying thing is that to ring up 4 drinks they have to swipe your card for them one at a time, which often takes longer than you’d think it should. Be prepared to show ID also.

You are getting up to $100 in free booze I never noticed them swiping it four times, I guess I don’t care all things considered standing there an extra ten seconds lol

by AA Suited m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58407886#post58407886)

Caesars removed the Diamond lounge buffets from all 3 AC casinos, again? lol.. yeah should have expected it with all these 5x and 10x tier multipliers. The endless cycle of bean counters cutting free food, then mid level gamblers stop coming to caesars, free buffet is back

apparently it happened a few days ago. now just alcohol with stuff like chips and pretzels. also now only open fri-sun.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58408580#post58408580)

You are getting up to $100 in free booze I never noticed them swiping it four times, I guess I don’t care all things considered standing there an extra ten seconds lol

yea they swipe it 4 times. it's not a big deal normally but can get annoying when the computer is slow or won't read the card and they have to enter the numbers manually.

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58408919#post58408919)

yea they swipe it 4 times. it's not a big deal normally but can get annoying when the computer is slow or won't read the card and they have to enter the numbers manually.

Ok, never noticed. Just always too engrossed in the great time provided courtesy of Caesars Rewards

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58408916#post58408916)

apparently it happened a few days ago. now just alcohol with stuff like chips and pretzels. also now only open fri-sun.

Hopefully alot of the mid-level AC gamblers are now thinking what's the point of offering the 5x and 10x multipliers to reach Diamond Plus if there's nothing to gain for it. Then walk to another casino on the Boardwalk to gamble. CZR is $46/share. Lets see what it is jan 2025

by AA Suited m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58409066#post58409066)

Hopefully alot of the mid-level AC gamblers are now thinking what's the point of offering the 5x and 10x multipliers to reach Diamond Plus if there's nothing to gain for it. Then walk to another casino on the Boardwalk to gamble. CZR is $46/share. Lets see what it is jan 2025

I guess up to $36,500 of free booze without gambling is nothing nor is getting through lines and waitlists at WSOP with no problems But yeah, go walk to another casino or burn down Caesars Palace AC or whatever

Don't forget to match your Caesars Diamond to Wyndham Diamond before the end of the month so that you can match back in February! https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re... (https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/caesars-rewards/status-match)

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58409637#post58409637)

Don't forget to match your Caesars Diamond to Wyndham Diamond before the end of the month so that you can match back in February! https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re... (https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/caesars-rewards/status-match)

It will instantly match from CET to Wyndham but not the other way around which will take two weeks after February 1 and only will match in that direction if the Wyndham status was earned. So there will be a minimum two week lag time without status until around February 14, 2024.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58408580#post58408580)

You are getting up to $100 in free booze I never noticed them swiping it four times, I guess I don’t care all things considered standing there an extra ten seconds lol

I rarely get booze, let alone $100 worth of anything. Unfortunately, Caesars’ bean counters are probably keeping track whether you get a $25 glass of wine, a $12 Starbucks, or a $6 juice with all of those drink vouchers, and declare you ‘over-comped’ if you hit $100 daily. If you don’t care about getting cut off from other offers, then feel free to burn through 4 X $25 drinks daily. I’ll use mine every day I’m on the strip, and appreciate the value that Caesars offers, but I’m not trying to maximize the cost to them. [emoji23]

Also just because they charge 25 a drink doesn't mean it's worth 25 to them.

by punkass m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58410049#post58410049)

Also just because they charge 25 a drink doesn't mean it's worth 25 to them.

Lol thanks I thought they were paying $600 for a bottle of Ketel One But it’s quite a nice perk when out to dinner or at pool when you really really want a few drinks and it’s certainly worth that amount to me Thank you Caesars! I don’t mind you running the card 4 times

Running the card 4 times is mostly a hassle for the cashier. Mine always seem to go bad so good to keep one with a working strip.

by pwnsall m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58410189#post58410189)

Running the card 4 times is mostly a hassle for the cashier. Mine always seem to go bad so good to keep one with a working strip.

Yeah I feel bad and I’m always getting new cards But if that card is in same pocket as cell phone once there goes the card. So it happens fast

I don't know, someone said $36k of free booze or something like that and I laughed

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58409637#post58409637)

Don't forget to match your Caesars Diamond to Wyndham Diamond before the end of the month so that you can match back in February! https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re... (https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/caesars-rewards/status-match)

Wyndham Diamond has near useless perks at Wyndham hotels. You're supposed to be upgraded to a suite if available. Twice in 2023 (feb and Nov) I was at a Wyndham. I checked before stepping through the door to make sure a suite was available. Front desk said no suites available and gave me a slightly better room. It gets even better. For Nov 2023, this hotel had Club rooms. When i got shot down for a suite upgrade, they gave me a Club room. It's only a slightly better room but it comes with the equivalent of a Caesars Diamond lounge. ie: Free food and drinks in late afternoon BUT because I was upgraded and didn't pay for the Club room, I'm not entitled to the Club lounge. 😡 The discount room rates as Diamond that I get on Wyndham's site is more expensive than booking.com.

by punkass m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58410556#post58410556)

I don't know, someone said $36k of free booze or something like that and I laughed

Lol Well, you can try and pay their cost for drinks at a restaurant. My guess is that they won’t let you and charge the $25. So yeah $36,500 it is. Actually it’s more because everyone gets at least 13 months minimum

CET emailed me about a program I haven't seen before. If you're a new TR member, they will match a huge slough of various loyalty programs to Diamond. Almost any decent sized casino in Vegas, and lots of places around the country.

Got this email this morning: 5X TIER CREDIT MULTIPLIER Get 5X on earned Tier Credits when you play, dine & more with us at your favorite Caesars Rewards® destinations from February 13 - 15, 2024!

by pig4bill m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58411060#post58411060)

CET emailed me about a program I haven't seen before. If you're a new TR member, they will match a huge slough of various loyalty programs to Diamond. Almost any decent sized casino in Vegas, and lots of places around the country.

They've been doing this for a long time.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58405367#post58405367)

If it’s not butthurt it has to be something warping your thought process to think I would possibly lie about a CC bonus being hit by a 5x multiplier.

It must suck going through life not being able to read. I never said what you think I said.

by JimL m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58411816#post58411816)

It must suck going through life not being able to read. I never said what you think I said.

You shouldn’t be too hard on him. Most of his posts claim he is either getting free drinks at the moment, or on the way to getting free drinks. The fact that he can read any post at all is kind of impressive. He really seems to have earned his screen name.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58409652#post58409652)

It will instantly match from CET to Wyndham but not the other way around which will take two weeks after February 1 and only will match in that direction if the Wyndham status was earned. So there will be a minimum two week lag time without status until around February 14, 2024.

This isnt true. I havent "earned" Wyndham status in 3 years of status matching back and forth every Jan/Feb.

by JimL m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58411816#post58411816)

It must suck going through life not being able to read. I never said what you think I said.

What are you butthurt about again? Lost track of who you are Summarize your gripes and I’ll address when I get a chance

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58411918#post58411918)

You shouldn’t be too hard on him. Most of his posts claim he is either getting free drinks at the moment, or on the way to getting free drinks. The fact that he can read any post at all is kind of impressive. He really seems to have earned his screen name.

Love my Caesars Rewards! MGM, Hard Rock, Boyd, Sahara..no one else in ballpark imo

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58411920#post58411920)

This isnt true. I havent "earned" Wyndham status in 3 years of status matching back and forth every Jan/Feb.

It's hit or miss. Although now it seems you can't tier match CZR to Wyndham online anymore.

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58412048#post58412048)

It's hit or miss. Although now it seems you can't tier match CZR to Wyndham online anymore.

I got instantly matched as a new Wyndham member a few days ago

by Alpha Fish m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58412394#post58412394)

I got instantly matched as a new Wyndham member a few days ago

my mistake. it doesn't work through caesars site anymore but does on wyndam's site.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58411932#post58411932)

What are you butthurt about again? Lost track of who you are Summarize your gripes and I’ll address when I get a chance

LOL at doubling down on stupidity. Perhaps you might want to read and think before responding. You usually fail at responding to what people actually say. FTR, I will buy you a steak in Vegas for nothing more than the entertainment value.

by JimL m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58413749#post58413749)

LOL at doubling down on stupidity. Perhaps you might want to read and think before responding. You usually fail at responding to what people actually say. FTR, I will buy you a steak in Vegas for nothing more than the entertainment value.

Lol I don’t care enough to read and think before responding to you I’ll definitely take a steak, and you will be entertained, I’m a literal legend. Where we going?

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58412048#post58412048)

It's hit or miss. Although now it seems you can't tier match CZR to Wyndham online anymore.

lol also not true. i just did it

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58414398#post58414398)

lol also not true. i just did it

I think Wyndham was the one who wasn't doing the matches the last year or two? I haven't had to worry about it recently, but I did look at both sites a few weeks ago and it seemed like it was opened up again. I realize Caesars is trying (succeeding?) at getting rid of the match loop. No idea if you match Marriot/Hilton/etc if they considered that to be earned, but I know that they back-tracked on it the first year they tried to close the loop.

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58414443#post58414443)

I think Wyndham was the one who wasn't doing the matches the last year or two? I haven't had to worry about it recently, but I did look at both sites a few weeks ago and it seemed like it was opened up again.I realize Caesars is trying (succeeding?) at getting rid of the match loop. No idea if you match Marriot/Hilton/etc if they considered that to be earned, but I know that th... See full post

It was reported on Flyertalk that the hotel chain match to Wyndham diamond is not earned which won't transfer to Caesars diamond. The only way to earn Wyndham diamond without the credit card is to stay 40 nights at Wyndham at a rate of $25 or more each night.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58414477#post58414477)

It was reported on Flyertalk that the hotel chain match to Wyndham diamond is not earned which won't transfer to Caesars diamond. The only way to earn Wyndham diamond without the credit card is to stay 40 nights at Wyndham at a rate of $25 or more each night.

I won't dispute that, but Wyndham did stop matching for a period of time, correct? So that information would only be known in the last year? If that is not correct, then please correct me. I know for a fact that wasn't true a few years ago when Wyndham was still matching.

You guys are spewing some BS in here. The FACTS are: You can currently match your Caesars Diamond to Wyndham Diamond RIGHT NOW at this link https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re... (https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/caesars-rewards/status-match) You dont have to earn **** The only thing that closed was the Hilton Gold > Wyndham Diamond match so people are no longer able to get the Hilton American Express > Wyndham Diamond > Caesars Diamond loop. But if you already have either Wyndham Diamond or Caesars Diamond you can keep infinite looping every Jan/Feb. I've done it the past 3 years so whoever keeps saying in here you cant is spewing bs.

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58414876#post58414876)

The only thing that closed was the Hilton Gold > Wyndham Diamond match so people are no longer able to get the Hilton American Express > Wyndham Diamond > Caesars Diamond loop. But if you already have either Wyndham Diamond or Caesars Diamond you can keep infinite looping every Jan/Feb. I've done it the past 3 years so whoever keeps saying in here you cant is spewing bs.

Now who is talking ****? Whether you got it or not that is exactly what they are trying to close. So it's just Hilton? What if I matched from another way to Wyndham? Your contention is that Caesars is closing down on all other status matches except the one that directly involves them?

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58414876#post58414876)

You guys are spewing some BS in here.The FACTS are:You can currently match your Caesars Diamond to Wyndham Diamond RIGHT NOW at this linkhttps://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re... (https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/caesars-rewards/status-match)You dont have to earn ****The only thing that closed was the Hilton Gold > Wyndham Diamond match so people are no longer able to get the Hilton American Express > Wyndha... See full post

i stated I was wrong about not being able to match caesars diamond to wyndam diamond online. You used to be able to do it on caesars rewards website but now you need to use the link you provided. but wyndam diamond to caesars diamond isn't supposed to work anymore if you didn't earn wyndam diamond. but it seems hit or miss in reality.

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58415030#post58415030)

i stated I was wrong about not being able to match caesars diamond to wyndam diamond online. You used to be able to do it on caesars rewards website but now you need to use the link you provided. but wyndam diamond to caesars diamond isn't supposed to work anymore if you didn't earn wyndam diamond. but it seems hit or miss in reality.

Also Wyndham is cracking down on card applications and requires submitting tax returns for new customers and also the coming 2024 will see contracting credit lines. So waiting for a match would be a problem for people needing diamond tier early in the year.

by Randall Stevens m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58390240#post58390240)

Not having time for food in LV might be a life leak. Do all that at the bar while eating good food.

Amen

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58414876#post58414876)

You guys are spewing some BS in here.The FACTS are:You can currently match your Caesars Diamond to Wyndham Diamond RIGHT NOW at this linkhttps://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re... (https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/caesars-rewards/status-match)You dont have to earn ****The only thing that closed was the Hilton Gold > Wyndham Diamond match so people are no longer able to get the Hilton American Express > Wyndha... See full post

After February 1, 2024 we need data points to determine if this is true currently.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58415549#post58415549)

After February 1, 2024 we need data points to determine if this is true currently.

If you read back 1 year in this thread, you'll see where people did this same back and forth dance. All kinds of people saying it doesnt work anymore. Then in mid/late February we all got approved for Caesars Diamond from the status match.

Another Ceasars Rrwatds mystery to figure out..... At the end ofnlast year, Caesars Rewards had two different 5x tier points bonus periods. They also had a promotion running for the last two months that for every 500 tier points earned at the end of the year a person would be awarded 100 tier points in the new year. I have not seen the points yet for either of those promotions. It has been my experience that bonus tier points from the multiplier promotions were awarded within the first few days of the following month. Do far I have seen nothing. Has anyone else seen anything yet?

Haven't seen anything there either

The 5x tier bonus points would have been applied to last year haven't gotten the 20% bonus yet either

I definitely got the 5x, because my tier status changed. I think I also got the 20% because I have 130 tier credits and haven't been to Vegas this year.

At the risk of having ScotchOnDaRocks chime in about how much he enjoys standing in line at kiosks… does anyone know if there is an even remotely legitimate reason for them requiring people to swipe their cards to enable many of these promotions? I get that it creates an “out” that allows them to deny the benefit to people on a technicality. But besides that, it seems to me all it does is piss off the people who knew about it and forgot. And piss off the people who didn’t know abut it and found out later.

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58414876#post58414876)

You guys are spewing some BS in here.The FACTS are:You can currently match your Caesars Diamond to Wyndham Diamond RIGHT NOW at this linkhttps://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re... (https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/caesars-rewards/status-match)You dont have to earn ****The only thing that closed was the Hilton Gold > Wyndham Diamond match so people are no longer able to get the Hilton American Express > Wyndha... See full post

I just did this yesterday and got the email today that I'm Wyndham Diamond. As easy as pie. Do their lower end properties have suites?

by pig4bill m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58421346#post58421346)

I definitely got the 5x, because my tier status changed. I think I also got the 20% because I have 130 tier credits and haven't been to Vegas this year.

The ‘20% boost’ was supposedly 100 TC per 500 TC earned from Nov 1 to Dec 31, so that, at least in past years, it was only granted in increments of 100. I have yet to receive any such boost, but maybe they’ve decided to exclude TC earned via poker play. [emoji2369]

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58421524#post58421524)

At the risk of having ScotchOnDaRocks chime in about how much he enjoys standing in line at kiosks… does anyone know if there is an even remotely legitimate reason for them requiring people to swipe their cards to enable many of these promotions?I get that it creates an “out” that allows them to deny the benefit to people on a technicality. But besides that, it seems to me all ... See full post

Agree, very annoying. That gotcha has gotten me before. by ZenRabbit m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58422059#post58422059)

The ‘20% boost’ was supposedly 100 TC per 500 TC earned from Nov 1 to Dec 31, so that, at least in past years, it was only granted in increments of 100. I have yet to receive any such boost, but maybe they’ve decided to exclude TC earned via poker play. [emoji2369]

In that case I have no idea where I got 130 tc from. I know for sure I got the 5x because I was Diamond before the 5x promo and now I'm Diamond Plus.

by pig4bill m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58422393#post58422393)

Agree, very annoying. That gotcha has gotten me before.

The whole purpose of a loyalty program is to promote the company and make it MORE likely for someone to buy their products and services. It’s bad enough they do a bunch of stuff unintentionally (in theory) to annoy their best customers. But things like this seem completely intentional. I don’t get the business side of it.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58421524#post58421524)

At the risk of having ScotchOnDaRocks chime in about how much he enjoys standing in line at kiosks… does anyone know if there is an even remotely legitimate reason for them requiring people to swipe their cards to enable many of these promotions?I get that it creates an “out” that allows them to deny the benefit to people on a technicality. But besides that, i... See full post

It seems like common sense to just give the promotion to people aware enough to swipe the kiosk. And it’s somewhat standard amongst many different industries requiring people to opt into a promotion. Not really a big deal, can’t recall ever standing in line to swipe a kiosk, maybe I’ve waited 8 seconds or something. But I’m cool as the other side of pillow as I’m not looking to get angry.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58422399#post58422399)

The whole purpose of a loyalty program is to promote the company and make it MORE likely for someone to buy their products and services. It’s bad enough they do a bunch of stuff unintentionally (in theory) to annoy their best customers. But things like this seem completely intentional. I don’t get the business side of it.

This. More this. I just realized the other day that the crappy Caesars Rewards program was driving me to play poker elsewhere. It wasn't a conscious decision. I have been waiting to see what the results of the 100 TC per 500 TC earned promotion at the end of last year would be. A couple of nights ago I was heading out to play some poker and trying to decide where to go. I initially thought about going to a Caesars property to get a jump on attaining Diamond status next year. Then I remembered that I was still waiting on my bonus points from last year. Since they haven't hit my account yet, I didn't want to have any gambling activity on my Caesars account until they do because it might be harder to judge what points came from what. So I went to a non-Caesars property. If Caesars had better reporting so it was easy to see where points came from I would have went and played poker at a Caesars property. If Caesars posted bonus points sooner so I could tell what was what I would have went and played at a Caesars property. Since they don't do either, I want to see what I earned last year and I am waiting on it so I went and played somewhere else. Caesars Rewards crappy systems were literally driving me to play elsewhere. If they had even remotely provided basic service they would have gotten my business.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58422421#post58422421)

It seems like common sense to just give the promotion to people aware enough to swipe the kiosk. And it’s somewhat standard amongst many different industries requiring people to opt into a promotion.Not really a big deal, can’t recall ever standing in line to swipe a kiosk, maybe I’ve waited 8 seconds or something. But I’m cool as the other side of pillo... See full post

Alright, Emmet. Everything is awesome.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58422524#post58422524)

Alright, Emmet. Everything is awesome.

I mean it’s pretty standard handling and not exclusive to CET. It’s not “awesome” but it’s also not really worth shaking the fist at. It’s not hard to swipe the card. But don’t call me out by name if ya’all don’t the real deal opinion. Chant Bloody Mary and she may appear.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58422658#post58422658)

I mean it’s pretty standard handling and not exclusive to CET. It’s not “awesome” but it’s also not really worth shaking the fist at. It’s not hard to swipe the card. But don’t call me out by name if ya’all don’t the real deal opinion. Chant Bloody Mary and she may appear.

I’m not asking your opinion on what is standard and what is not standard. You have chimed in a number of times here on subjects you have no clue about, per your own admission. Your presence here seems only to make bizarre brags about how great things are for you. I’m sure everyone is thrilled for you. Anyhow, if you have a thought about why they make you stop gaming in order to go swipe a card for no apparent reason, other than the opportunity to annoy at least two segments of their customer base, then I’d be happy to hear it.

Some sort of tracking for some things. Normally give a few free entries for swiping in as well. Think they want to know if you are there even if you don't gamble.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423180#post58423180)

I’m not asking your opinion on what is standard and what is not standard. You have chimed in a number of times here on subjects you have no clue about, per your own admission. Your presence here seems only to make bizarre brags about how great things are for you. I’m sure everyone is thrilled for you. Anyhow, if you have a thought about why they make you stop gaming... See full post

Lmao you brought my name into it:“waiting for Scotch to tell me how much he likes waiting in line for a kiosk”. Don’t want me to chime in? Leave my name out of yo dirty mouth I’ve never seen a bigger bunch of complaining crybabies though. Just swipe your card FFS. They aren’t doing it to annoy Akashenk, no more than a supermarket wanting you to swipe their card to get the deals.

by JimL m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58419772#post58419772)

Another Ceasars Rrwatds mystery to figure out.....At the end ofnlast year, Caesars Rewards had two different 5x tier points bonus periods. They also had a promotion running for the last two months that for every 500 tier points earned at the end of the year a person would be awarded 100 tier points in the new year.I have not seen the points yet for either of those promotions. I... See full post

9. Participants will receive one hundred (100) Tier Credits towards their 2024 Caesars Rewards Tier Score® for every five hundred (500) Tier Credits earned during the Offer Period.
   

10. Maximum bonus per Participant Caesars Rewards account is twenty thousand (20,000) Tier Credits.
11. The Tier Credits awarded pursuant to this Offer will be added to Participant’s Caesars Rewards account no later than Wednesday, January 31, 2024.

I suspect they were added last year. If that's true, unless you were shooting for a higher level card, those points were just wasted. In my case I was shooting for Diamond Plus. OTOH if they weren't credited until this year, I would've been pissed because it wouldn't have gotten me a higher status, just a few thousand TC. Still not horrible, but not what I expected. If you haven't received what you expected, you might want to call, even though it's not 1/31.

They weren't added last year

I don't have much to add to this thread but I keep up for the info. Scotch, why are you like this Everyone else keep up the good info

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423195#post58423195)

Lmao you brought my name into it:“waiting for Scotch to tell me how much he likes waiting in line for a kiosk”. Don’t want me to chime in? Leave my name out of yo dirty mouth I’ve never seen a bigger bunch of complaining crybabies though. Just swipe your card FFS. They aren’t doing it to annoy Akashenk, no more than a supermarket wanting you to swipe their card to get the deals... See full post

You already swipe your card when you sit down at the table or the slot machine. They are making you swipe your card a separate time in a different place. It would be the equivalent of the supermarket making you leave the checkout line to go swipe your card at the back of the store in order to get the discount. It’s just stupid. And no amount of self-absorbed, sycophantic casino ball washing will change that. Again, if you have something intelligent or useful to say to provide a reasonable explanation for this policy, I’m all ears. But the whole “It’s standard” nonsense you are spewing is just lazy.

by pig4bill m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423226#post58423226)

I suspect they were added last year….

Lol, I wouldn’t put anything past Caesars Rewards at this point, but this would certainly defeat the whole purpose of “Earning for 2024”. 😆

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423330#post58423330)

You already swipe your card when you sit down at the table or the slot machine. They are making you swipe your card a separate time in a different place. It would be the equivalent of the supermarket making you leave the checkout line to go swipe your card at the back of the store in order to get the discount. It’s just stupid. And no amount of self-absorbed, sycophantic casino... See full post

Just swipe your card at the kiosk, it ain’t hard. It’s a never ending river of crocodile tears.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423330#post58423330)

You already swipe your card when you sit down at the table or the slot machine. They are making you swipe your card a separate time in a different place. It would be the equivalent of the supermarket making you leave the checkout line to go swipe your card at the back of the store in order to get the discount. It’s just stupid. And no amount of self-absorbed, sycophantic casino... See full post

As was pointed out earlier it let's them know if you visited the property and did not gamble assuming a modicum of proper accounting.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423335#post58423335)

Lol, I wouldn’t put anything past Caesars Rewards at this point, but this would certainly defeat the whole purpose of “Earning for 2024”. 😆

I should have clarified, I meant the 5x bonus.

I don't get the trouble with swiping in either, other than when someone accidentally forgets. Pretty sure I've never once had to wait in a line to log in.

by pwnsall m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423187#post58423187)

Some sort of tracking for some things. Normally give a few free entries for swiping in as well. Think they want to know if you are there even if you don't gamble.

Sorry. Didn’t see your post. See below �� by Polarbear1955 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423413#post58423413)

As was pointed out earlier it lets them know if you visited the property and did not gamble assuming a modicum of proper accounting.

I suppose this is a reasonably believable explanation. Still doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. I get that they have all sorts of promotions unrelated to gambling where swiping at the kiosk does make sense. By tier multiplier promotions aren’t among of them. You can’t earn tier points without acknowledging your presence already. I also think, if data mining were the only reason for the policy, you could go to them after the fact if you did not swipe and request the tier multiplier be applied. I’ve never “forgotten” to swipe, but there have been some people in this thread and others I know who did and unsuccessfully attempted to plead their case. But ok, pure bureaucratic nonsense is the leader in the clubhouse as far as explanations go. Still seems like terrible business practice to openly annoy your customers. by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423401#post58423401)

Just swipe your card at the kiosk, it ain’t hard. It’s a never ending river of crocodile tears

This is an odd thing to say for someone who partakes in an online message board. Again, I fully understand that Everything is awesome (TM) where you live in Cloud Cuckoo land (TM). So why do you spend any of your time slumming here? by pig4bill m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423557#post58423557)

I should have clarified, I meant the 5x bonus.

Ahhh. My mistake. But I’m not surprised there was confusion related to that. It can take upwards of 2 weeks for tier multiplier points to appear (this is what they openly advertise at some CR desks). And of course, when you’re at the end of the year, this sort of delay can cause all sorts of handwringing. This delay never made sense either except I have come to learn that in many cases, if not all, it’s actually a manual process for awarding the points. A human being has to actually verify that the person opted in and the activity warrants the multiplier. Yet another reason the process is made more cumbersome by the requirement to opt in.

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423704#post58423704)

I don't get the trouble with swiping in either, other than when someone accidentally forgets. Pretty sure I've never once had to wait in a line to log in.

The trouble is, you are annoying your customers. This is a significant promotion and a significant benefit. And they are withholding it from people who failed to perform a fairly arbitrary mundane task which doesn’t seem to serve any good purpose. You can’t earn tier points without your card. But they make you announce you have your card twice in two different places for this promotion. As for waiting in line, it depends. The kiosk situation is touch and go in at least two of the casinos I regularly visit. Of the half a dozen or so machines they have spread throughout the casino floor, half of them are typically out of service. So yes, lines do form. Ok, you can move on and come back some other time. But unless you’re someone who swipes every day for some other reason, the requirement to do so just to opt in to this promotion can be a hassle.

Akashenk why don’t you roll into town and buy me a steak or wagyu sliders with your Caesars rewards comps and give me a chance to persuade you on the greatness of the program and all that it has to offer

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58424122#post58424122)

Akashenk why don’t you roll into town and buy me a steak or wagyu sliders with your Caesars rewards comps and give me a chance to persuade you on the greatness of the program and all that it has to offer

You strike me as the sort of person who makes his way through life by the grace and charity of others. I’m not interested in enabling you any further. And I have no interest in debating the greatness of the Caesars loyalty program. There are numerous and well documented things they have done in recent years which are bad for customers. And there are also sketchy things they are under suspicion of doing recently. These issues are worth discussing here. If you think otherwise, or just want to praise them, then that’s fine. But you shouldn’t be surprised when people either contradict you or ignore your commentary when there is little substance to it. You’re. It going to convince me or anyone else who sees the same things I see that everything is awesome just because that’s how you feel.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58424345#post58424345)

You strike me as the sort of person who makes his way through life by the grace and charity of others. I’m not interested in enabling you any further. And I have no interest in debating the greatness of the Caesars loyalty program. There are numerous and well documented things they have done in recent years which are bad for customers. And there are also sketchy things th... See full post

Simple prime rib with a jacket potato, all the fixings. I don’t need fancy Don’t get cheap on me, I never assume I know someone from their online persona, but you strike me as type of guy who when he opens his wallet, moths fly out.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58424361#post58424361)

Simple prime rib with a jacket potato, all the fixings. I don’t need fancy Don’t get cheap on me, I never assume I know someone from their online persona, but you strike me as type of guy who when he opens his wallet, moths fly out.

Says the guy yammering on and on about free stuff he gets from Caesar’s.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58424618#post58424618)

Says the guy yammering on and on about free stuff he gets from Caesar’s.

Free drinks on me, courtesy of best rewards program there is.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58423721#post58423721)

Ahhh. My mistake. But I’m not surprised there was confusion related to that. It can take upwards of 2 weeks for tier multiplier points to appear (this is what they openly advertise at some CR desks). And of course, when you’re at the end of the year, this sort of delay can cause all sorts of handwringing.This delay never made sense either except I have come to learn that in man... See full post

At work we have some processes that are not automated even though they should be. So I have to write a program to go in and add the points, check the swipe, etc. But it only takes me a few hours. It's crazy that they pay someone to go do all of that by hand.

by pig4bill m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58424764#post58424764)

At work we have some processes that are not automated even though they should be. So I have to write a program to go in and add the points, check the swipe, etc. But it only takes me a few hours. It's crazy that they pay someone to go do all of that by hand.

If you look under the hood, it’s crazy how antiquated the computer systems and processes are in some industries. But it’s doubly so in gaming, since that industry is so profitable and has a largely captive audience. It seems like we only see process improvement and innovation when casinos outsource IT, like they do in online sports betting.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58424802#post58424802)

It seems like we only see process improvement and innovation when casinos outsource IT, like they do in online sports betting.

Which leads directly to events like the MGM/CET hacks. They aren't outsourcing for innovation; they are reducing costs.

by AzOther1 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58424989#post58424989)

Which leads directly to events like the MGM/CET hacks. They aren't outsourcing for innovation; they are reducing costs.

Agreed. The cost reduction measures we have seen have been substantial and lead to poor customer experiences. I wonder if we are nearing a tipping point in just how crappy things have gotten across the board since Covid. At some point consumers will revolt.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425142#post58425142)

Agreed. The cost reduction measures we have seen have been substantial and lead to poor customer experiences. I wonder if we are nearing a tipping point in just how crappy things have gotten across the board since Covid. At some point consumers will revolt.

Consumers are not going to revolt, with the exception of mostly myself this thread is just a little echo chamber with a handful of disgruntled “rewards nits” With regards to the consumer rewards programs and poker players the main point of “incompetence” BENEFITS us. That would be the fact that poker activity which is supposed to be excluded from the 5x or 10x multipliers is often included. So sit back, relax, pop the champagne and let’s enjoy the feast we have been given

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425142#post58425142)

Agreed. The cost reduction measures we have seen have been substantial and lead to poor customer experiences. I wonder if we are nearing a tipping point in just how crappy things have gotten across the board since Covid. At some point consumers will revolt.

I hope. The problem is the people who bend over and take it but complain about it.People who bitch about 50 dollar resort fees while paying. People who bitch about 20 dollar beers at sporting events but pay. They don't realize they're a big part of the problem. So while I saw people irate about lounges in AC getting rid of food I just hope they actually put their money where their mouths are. If they continue to reward Caesars with their play they're confirming Caesars made the right move.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425382#post58425382)

Consumers are not going to revolt, with the exception of mostly myself this thread is just a little echo chamber with a handful of disgruntled “rewards nits”With regards to the consumer rewards programs and poker players the main point of “incompetence” BENEFITS us. That would be the fact that poker activity which is supposed to be excluded from the 5x or 10x multipliers is oft... See full post

You’ve proven yourself an expert in nothing but self promotion and willful ignorance. So I see no reason to put any stock in what you think will or will not happen. That being said, the future is unwritten. by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425445#post58425445)

I hope.The problem is the people who bend over and take it but complain about it.People who bitch about 50 dollar resort fees while paying. People who bitch about 20 dollar beers at sporting events but pay. They don't realize they're a big part of the problem.So while I saw people irate about lounges in AC getting rid of food I just hope they actually put their money where thei... See full post

True enough. But I think there is a tipping point for everybody. On personal level, I’m close to mine when it comes to caesars. I’ve gotten a glimpse of too much inside baseball from people who work for El Dorado to pass it all off as “the way things are done”. And you’re right, if people just take it, there will be no reason to change.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425756#post58425756)

You’ve proven yourself an expert in nothing but self promotion and willful ignorance. So I see no reason to put any stock in what you think will or will not happen. That being said, the future is unwritten. True enough. But I think there is a tipping point for everybody. On personal level, I’m close to mine when it comes to caesars. I’ve gotten a glimpse of ... See full post

Lol at you, yeah me pointing out that true fact about poker counting when it shouldn’t is self promotion But I’m sorry that you haven’t persuaded me to hate Ceasars. I enjoy being put at top of a 100 man cash game list and also enjoy up to $40,000 in free booze. Free dinner was great and was also cool to hook a friend up with a completely free room for long weekend. Start this revolution yourself if you hate them so much

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425445#post58425445)

I hope.The problem is the people who bend over and take it but complain about it.People who bitch about 50 dollar resort fees while paying. People who bitch about 20 dollar beers at sporting events but pay. They don't realize they're a big part of the problem.So while I saw people irate about lounges in AC getting rid of food I just hope they actually put their money where thei... See full post

Talk to me about this free food the people in AC no longer get. Is this just free food that they used to give to reward holders? I mean if that’s the case then whatever, who really expects free food in 2024? The 1990s called and want their rewards back, and post Covid there are even very few paying buffets left. And who would want it anyway? Free food with who knows what corners are being cut, no thank you.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425795#post58425795)

Talk to me about this free food the people in AC no longer get.Is this just free food that they used to give to reward holders?I mean if that’s the case then whatever, who really expects free food in 2024? The 1990s called and want their rewards back, and post Covid there are even very few paying buffets left.And who would want it anyway? Free food with who knows what cor... See full post

Probably the people who got it in 2023 who earned status for 2024. Like I said time will tell. If they're pissing off people who game 10x multipliers every other year then it's no loss for them. It it's good customers who go elsewhere then they went to far especially in a toilet like AC. Personally I thought the food in the AC diamond lounges sucked anyway so I really don't care.

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425977#post58425977)

Probably the people who got it in 2023 who earned status for 2024. Like I said time will tell. If they're pissing off people who game 10x multipliers every other year then it's no loss for them. It it's good customers who go elsewhere then they went to far especially in a toilet like AC.Personally I thought the food in the AC diamond lounges sucked anyway so I really don't ca... See full post

I don’t think it’s the type of thing you need to give more than a year’s notice on but I get ya with that. No good customer probably considers that a great perk. Even right out of college with no money I’d be sketchy on eating that food.

Yeah, I never had good food in one of their lounges. Good riddance.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58425787#post58425787)

Lol at you, yeah me pointing out that true fact about poker counting when it shouldn’t is self promotion But I’m sorry that you haven’t persuaded me to hate Ceasars. I enjoy being put at top of a 100 man cash game list and also enjoy up to $40,000 in free booze. Free dinner was great and was also cool to hook a friend up with a completely free room for long we... See full post

cutting in line is one of the few remaining perks of regular diamond status. And if people are using anywhere near $36500 with the vouchers, then that perk will be curtailed or eliminated too. What will you have to say then, I wonder? And I’m not trying to persuade anybody to do anything. I’m pointing out irregularities in their rating system as well as what is obvious to anyone who isn’t a Caesar’s symp. Things aren’t nearly what they used to be. Again, if everything is awesome in your world, or your head, I don’t really care. You have provided zero insight into any of the issues I have raised other than to insinuate you are a raging alcoholic. Again, I don’t care. Live your best life.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426323#post58426323)

cutting in line is one of the few remaining perks of regular diamond status. And if people are using anywhere near $36500 with the vouchers, then that perk will be curtailed or eliminated too. What will you have to say then, I wonder? And I’m not trying to persuade anybody to do anything. I’m pointing out irregularities in their rating system as well as what is obvi... See full post

If they take away any of the main benefits we can discuss then, otherwise it’s an imaginary boogeyman. But for now, it’s an awesome perk, one you can’t get anywhere else. Into what issues? You have been raising some pretty weird and nit picky stuff like the 5x multiplier conspiracy theory on table games and complaining about swiping your card for a 5x multiplier. Even guys like markfnw are chiming in that it’s no big deal.

Haha, I typed out earlier that hell might be freezing over as I find myself on Scotches side on this, lol. I mean, if it’s so terrible, go give MGM a shot and see how you like that.

I liked the lounge food, only ever ate the local one. I do kind of prefer 4 drink tickets to free drinks in the lounge, though. What's the seven star value plays?

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426411#post58426411)

Haha, I typed out earlier that hell might be freezing over as I find myself on Scotches side on this, lol. I mean, if it’s so terrible, go give MGM a shot and see how you like that.

Lol Eventually I win people over, if you wish to accelerate the process I’ll take a steak

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426372#post58426372)

If they take away any of the main benefits we can discuss then, otherwise it’s an imaginary boogeyman. But for now, it’s an awesome perk, one you can’t get anywhere else.Into what issues? You have been raising some pretty weird and nit picky stuff like the 5x multiplier conspiracy theory on table games and complaining about swiping your card for a 5x multiplie... See full post

The issue I raised with the rating system is neither nitpicky nor weird. It’s potentially scandalous in how underhanded it would be. And since you have admitted you don’t play table games or pay attention to stuff regarding ratings, I don’t really understand why you feel like you need to chime in about it. Btw, I actually reached out to them since my findings are not imaginary. There’s a precise record of how players are rated and what they earn. I have not received a reply, which is probably unsurprising to most people who have tried to interact with their customer service. As for the swiping, this is a big deal for anyone that does’t get the points because of what seems like a pointless policy. And I was curious if anyone could think of reason for them to annoy their customers in this way. The only suggestions proffered have been that they are trying to do some sort of data mining and your unsurprisingly vapid “because that’s how it’s done” suggestion. I find both of these explanations inadequate. A more likely scenario is they are simply more interested in ways of reducing their costs. This would certainly fit in line with their other decisions when it comes to the loyalty program in recent years. by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426411#post58426411)

Haha, I typed out earlier that hell might be freezing over as I find myself on Scotches side on this, lol. I mean, if it’s so terrible, go give MGM a shot and see how you like that.

Yes, of course, one can choose another company’s program. But this is a thread about Caesars. And the issue isn’t whether it is terrible or not terrible. The issue is what has become of it, particularly since the acquisition.

Just found out about no food in the Diamond lounges yesterday while at Harrahs in AC. The hostess informed me of the changes but said they have “chips and salsa”. Okay. It’s a shame. I’m a low level Diamond guy and I liked that I could get a quick meal for basically nothing when all other food options are way overpriced. It obviously wasn’t fine dining but it was decent enough.

by pwnsall m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426419#post58426419)

I liked the lounge food, only ever ate the local one. I do kind of prefer 4 drink tickets to free drinks in the lounge, though. What's the seven star value plays?

The food in the lounges I used to go to was ok. Certainly nothing superb. But fine for a free snack or meal. And the vouchers do provide some flexibility which didn’t exist with the lounges. But again, the lounges used to be free to diamond. Then they started charging and/or requiring higher status. And then they got rid of them altogether. And now any food benefit is reserved for 7-stars. There is also another negative side effect of the vouchers in that locations which participate have jacked up their prices tremendously. Of course, there has been inflation across the board in recent years, but it’s obvious places are taking advantage of the vouchers. For example, I walked into a participating Starbucks on the strip and they were charging $10 for a ham/cheese croissant. The same item was $6 at a non participating casino next door. Same thing with the drinks. Buying a bottle of water is not cheap in a casino. But what used to cost a ridiculous $4 is now literally double that in places where the vouchers are heavily used. I have no idea if these locations are just taking advantage of Caesar’s, or if it’s all just smoke and mirrors and Caesar’s doesn’t actually pay that much for it. But either way, it’s a really bad thing for customers.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426558#post58426558)

The issue I raised with the rating system is neither nitpicky nor weird. It’s potentially scandalous in how underhanded it would be. And since you have admitted you don’t play table games or pay attention to stuff regarding ratings, I don’t really understand why you feel like you need to chime in about it. Btw, I actually reached out to them since my findings ... See full post

Yes of course they are trying to save money by having you swipe your card, but I already told you that. They want to give the promotion to only the people that know about the promotion. Just be aware and swipe your card, it’s not hard. It’s amazing how personal you take it, “They are trying to trick and annoy Akashenk!” I mean you could get MGM Rewards or Gracie rewards or whatever but that won’t help you at WSOP getting into cash games and tournaments without a wait, main reason why I and others get the card. And I love the drink tickets as many others do. Another thing unique to Caesars. No other rewards program is really even worth tier matching to. (I did Hard Rock, that’s it) I’m not planning on driving over to Station casinos to go get my Train Conductor Card or whatever nonsense they might have.

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426411#post58426411)

Haha, I typed out earlier that hell might be freezing over as I find myself on Scotches side on this, lol. I mean, if it’s so terrible, go give MGM a shot and see how you like that.

They have a captive audience, of which I am a part. I play in the WSOP. CET knows that, which is why they won't sell it.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426571#post58426571)

Yes of course they are trying to save money by having you swipe your card, but I already told you that. They want to give the promotion to only the people that know about the promotion. Just be aware and swipe your card, it’s not hard. It’s amazing how personal you take it, “They are trying to trick and annoy Akashenk!”I mean you could get MGM Rewards or Gracie rewards or whate... See full post

hahaha. Yea i don't want their nonsense card either. If you can tier match to cosmo platinum it's definitely worth it. might have to go Caesars card to MGM plat to Cosmo platinum first. Some of the AC tier matches have been worth it but never did any others in vegas besides mgm/cosmo.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426571#post58426571)

Yes of course they are trying to save money by having you swipe your card, but I already told you that. They want to give the promotion to only the people that know about the promotion. Just be aware and swipe your card, it’s not hard. It’s amazing how personal you take it, “They are trying to trick and annoy Akashenk!”I mean you could get MGM Rewards or... See full post

Even ignoring all the ways it’s been watered down or degraded in recent years, I’ve had a lot of bad experiences when it comes to the Caesar’s reward program in the last year+ as a gambler. And there have been very few where I was like, hey, that’s great and they really value me as a customer. I’ve enumerated many of these experiences in this thread, whether it was the hoops they started to make people jump through to get a 50 cent bottle of water at the table, or missing tier points, or repeated back and forth interactions with customer service which went nowhere, or unusual rating anomalies, or yes, the cherry on top, promotion policies that seem to exist only to annoy customers. And this forum is a vehicle to see if others have had similar experiences. Or find out information about policies I may not be aware of. Or to share useful info with others. So when all you do is respond by saying how great the program is to you, don’t you see how unhelpful that is, to the point of being annoying yourself? I don’t care how much you love the program, and if you have not experienced any of the things I have. I assume most people haven’t, because if they had, then Caesar’s would go out of business. Again. So what is your purpose for being here other than to be contradictory?

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426773#post58426773)

Even ignoring all the ways it’s been watered down or degraded in recent years, I’ve had a lot of bad experiences when it comes to the Caesar’s reward program in the last year+ as a gambler. And there have been very few where I was like, hey, that’s great and they really value me as a customer. I’ve enumerated many of these experiences in this thread, whether it was the hoops th... See full post

Important stuff hasn’t been watered down, can’t put me tenth on the 100 man wsop cash game list Those poor people at the CR desk when they see you walk up. Please be nice to them as they aren’t in on the evil conspiracy to annoy the customers Mostly this started when I shared my experiences with getting a huge bonus from my credit card. As you say I came here to share those experiences and I got called a liar and stunod. So of course I’m going to give the back of my hand

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426809#post58426809)

Important stuff hasn’t been watered down, can’t put me tenth on the 100 man wsop cash game list Those poor people at the CR desk when they see you walk up. Please be nice to them as they aren’t in on the evil conspiracy to annoy the customers Mostly this started when I shared my experiences with getting a huge bonus from my credit card. As you say I came here to share those exp... See full post

What's important and what is not is in the eye of the beholder. If you don't play table games, I can understand how the process and intricacies of ratings is not important to you. What I don't get is your instance that your particular experiences are somehow germane to mine. I liked the show tickets. They are gone. I liked the lounges. They are gone. I liked to be able to get information at a rewards desk. That is largely gone. I liked it when there was more transparency in ratings. They have now made it harder to get those details. To me, the loss of these things, and more, represents significant degradation. I couldn't care less about the lines at cash tables. And the whole "cutting in line" thing ain't what it used to be either since staff has been reduced so much. I don't remember the last time a trip to the cage has been anything but a hassle, even with diamond status. Anyhow, I don't think I ever called you a liar, though I believe there were other posters who didn't think your story was at all representative of policy, as opposed to random good luck. If I though all of my bad experiences were just bad luck, I wouldn't bother posting about them. But most, if not all of them, represent actual policies. And these policies deserve scrutiny, even if they don't affect you personally. As for the poor people in the cages, they are put into a bad position by the company by being stretched thin and having to do things they are not really trained for. They suffer and the customers suffer. It's yet another example of how not everything is awesome with CET.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426773#post58426773)

So when all you do is respond by saying how great the program is to you, don’t you see how unhelpful that is, to the point of being annoying yourself? I don’t care how much you love the program, and if you have not experienced any of the things I have. I assume most people haven’t, because if they had, then Caesar’s would go out of business. Again.So what is your purpose for be... See full post

This paragraph also applies to you constantly responding to scotch, causing him to respond, causing you to respond, and on and on. Put him on ignore. Problem solved.

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426962#post58426962)

This paragraph also applies to you constantly responding to scotch, causing him to respond, causing you to respond, and on and on. Put him on ignore. Problem solved.

This is fair.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426873#post58426873)

What's important and what is not is in the eye of the beholder. If you don't play table games, I can understand how the process and intricacies of ratings is not important to you .

Regarding ratings at table games. I've noticed a big difference depending on who is doing the rating. Certain pit bosses rate at a higher level than others. I believe some of this is based on if they like you generally. On a game like craps, they seem to have some discretion on what they decide your average bet is. Sometimes at the beginning of a roll the bets may be $400, but by mid roll or towards the end of series of rolls the bets could be $2000. They may decide the players average is $2000, or they may never change it from the original $400. I've seen both ends of the spectrum.

by redantfarm m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58427011#post58427011)

Regarding ratings at table games. I've noticed a big difference depending on who is doing the rating. Certain pit bosses rate at a higher level than others. I believe some of this is based on if they like you generally. On a game like craps, they seem to have some discretion on what they decide your average bet is. Sometimes at the beginning of a roll the bets may be $400... See full post

This is true. And I have never encountered a situation where an inaccurate rating couldn’t be fixed with the floor prior to leaving. However, variance in floor rating isn’t related to the issue I brought up because the data I was looking at had consistent and accurate time/average bet. The discrepancies I found had to be due to either purposeful or accidental variance in the algorithms used to calculate tier points on a given game. And floor people, just like so many other employees, are being abused due to staffing issues. the whole experience of working for and being a customer of CET has seen significant, and IMO, unwelcome changes since the acquisition.

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426962#post58426962)

This paragraph also applies to you constantly responding to scotch, causing him to respond, causing you to respond, and on and on. Put him on ignore. Problem solved.

It’s weak to be afraid to debate But just so we are on same page, Scotch was sitting minding his own bizness and Akashenk brought me into it saying I probably like standing in line for the kiosk Which is ridiculous because there are no lines for the kiosks But if I do go on ignore I’ll ask Akashenk to be polite to the CR desk workers and not get in their face

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58427056#post58427056)

..either purposeful or accidental..

hmm

by Alpha Fish m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58427127#post58427127)

hmm

He thinks there is some possible conspiracy even though it’s a drop in the bucket compared with slots that can’t be rigged And they don’t even bother turning off poker during the 5x multiplier even though it’s supposed to be excluded and would be low hanging fruit Then says I need to be quiet because I don’t play table games. But I don’t need to in order to apply simple logic

I was more referring to a fact that just about anything could be described as "either purposeful or accidental", but yeah Occam's razor

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58427204#post58427204)

He thinks there is some possible conspiracy even though it’s a drop in the bucket compared with slots that can’t be rigged And they don’t even bother turning off poker during the 5x multiplier even though it’s supposed to be excluded and would be low hanging fruit Then says I need to be quiet because I don’t play table games. But I don’t need to in order to apply simple logic

It’s not a conspiracy, if it is happening. It’s just a crappy anti-customer policy, just like all the other ones which have come about in recent years. And you don’t need to be quiet. You have simply demonstrated your ignorance on the subject. Of course being ignorant of something never stopped anybody from having and even sharing a strong opinion. So carry on. Your comments will continue to receive their due consideration.

by akashenk m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58428207#post58428207)

It’s not a conspiracy, if it is happening. It’s just a crappy anti-customer policy, just like all the other ones which have come about in recent years. And you don’t need to be quiet. You have simply demonstrated your ignorance on the subject. Of course being ignorant of something never stopped anybody from having and even sharing a strong opinion. So carry on. Your comments wi... See full post

Lol I’m boring of this so I’ll probably be more quiet, but I’m not the only indicating that you are overreacting But please spare me the drama queen stuff about “demonstrating ignorance!” Caesars Rewards doesn’t owe you anything. You asked me what would would I do if they got rid of the free drink tickets. I wouldn’t get Diamond Plus and would be at their casinos a lot less. But I wouldn’t be angry about it. It’s not my style and I’d substitute other stuff

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58428224#post58428224)

Lol I’m boring of this so I’ll probably be more quiet, but I’m not the only indicating that you are overreacting But please spare me the drama queen stuff about “demonstrating ignorance!”Caesars Rewards doesn’t owe you anything. You asked me what would would I do if they got rid of the free drink tickets. I wouldn’t get Diamond Plus and would be at their casinos a lot less. But... See full post

You don’t know what I’m talking about, yet you feel the need to provide unhelpful commentary. That’s not drama. And I think if you, or anyone else, found out they were being misled about something, they would be angry about it. But who knows with you. Everything is awesome.

Just got my 10x TC multiplied credits from the promotion in Reno. Wound up playing 10-handed quarter denom full-pay JoB to grind out TCs. Eldorado seems to be devaluing TCs to entice more people to chase status, which I'm actually a fan of. I earned over 40k TC during this trip which cost me very little in expected loss. One more of these events and I'm diamond elite for 2 years, which means 2 free trips to Vegas.

by IOWActuary m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58428613#post58428613)

Just got my 10x TC multiplied credits from the promotion in Reno. Wound up playing 10-handed quarter denom full-pay JoB to grind out TCs. Eldorado seems to be devaluing TCs to entice more people to chase status, which I'm actually a fan of. I earned over 40k TC during this trip which cost me very little in expected loss. One more of these events and I'm diamond elite for 2 year... See full post

Good job! Actuaries love their Caesars Rewards

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58426962#post58426962)

This paragraph also applies to you constantly responding to scotch, causing him to respond, causing you to respond, and on and on. Put him on ignore. Problem solved.

It worked for me.

by pig4bill m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58429051#post58429051)

It worked for me.

Softie And I was the guy who gave you the correct information on where you could get your celebration dinner. Others like Akashenk were incorrect. Somebody quote me so this fine gent can reconsider

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58429073#post58429073)

Softie And I was the guy who gave you the correct information on where you could get your celebration dinner. Others like Akashenk were incorrect. Somebody quote me so this fine gent can reconsider

Long Live SODR. I think it's great that someone is actually happy with a large corporation like Caesers.

by Your Mom m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58430105#post58430105)

Long Live SODR. I think it's great that someone is actually happy with a large corporation like Caesers.

Ignorance is bliss, or so they say 🙄

by Your Mom m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58430105#post58430105)

Long Live SODR. I think it's great that someone is actually happy with a large corporation like Caesers.

Thanks for quoting me! Yeah I try and stay even keel and realistic. Scotch maneuvers around some of the difficulties of the program, takes full advantage of any cracks, and enjoys the rewards while they exist. I don’t see why I should hate them. Many nice free dinners, free drinks at restaurants and pools, and hop over 100 person cash game wait list. It’s been said I’m supposed to be angry because they make me swipe my card at a kiosk, but I’m not.

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58430441#post58430441)

Thanks for quoting me!Yeah I try and stay even keel and realistic. Scotch maneuvers around some of the difficulties of the program, takes full advantage of any cracks, and enjoys the rewards while they exist.I don’t see why I should hate them. Many nice free dinners, free drinks at restaurants and pools, and hop over 100 person cash game wait list. It’s been said I’m supposed t... See full post

I mostly agree. Free drinks, free Diamond dinner at Ramsay's skipping a long ass line, my whole family ate like kings all off of my reward points in vegas for 3.5 days, free room at Paris too for 3 nights.

by Your Mom m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58430622#post58430622)

I mostly agree. Free drinks, free Diamond dinner at Ramsay's skipping a long ass line, my whole family ate like kings all off of my reward points in vegas for 3.5 days, free room at Paris too for 3 nights.

Great to hear it bud Everything good eventually comes to an end, here’s hoping the party goes on for awhile though

I’m sure this is buried somewhere above but I don’t feel like scrolling endlessly. Usually hit LV 2-3 times per year but since the WSOP last June we haven’t been out, mostly b/c of the race nonsense. Anyway, will be there 2/14 to 2/20. Does anyone have a recent listing of locations where the celebration dinner money can be used? Had reservations on 2/14 at Don Vito’s at South Point, however, due to the 5X the first two days we will be there, we will just stay local (Caesar’s properties), to smack some tier credits but are looking for an up to date restaurant list for Diamond dinner… Thanks!

by Can U Get This Out m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58431239#post58431239)

I’m sure this is buried somewhere above but I don’t feel like scrolling endlessly. Usually hit LV 2-3 times per year but since the WSOP last June we haven’t been out, mostly b/c of the race nonsense. Anyway, will be there 2/14 to 2/20. Does anyone have a recent listing of locations where the celebration dinner money can be used? Had reservations on 2/14 a... See full post

If you go to rewards desk I think they can give you a piece of paper with listing I have one from a year ago but not sure if online. What type of food/place were you looking to go? I can give you some places or a ya or nay from list I have

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58431272#post58431272)

If you go to rewards desk I think they can give you a piece of paper with listing I have one from a year ago but not sure if online. What type of food/place were you looking to go?

Thanks, but with it being V-Day the day we arrive I was hoping to secure a reservation at one of the places from the list. Having a current, known list in advance was the purpose for my ask. [emoji41] I know the list can/does change often. Had Italian reservation at South Point originally, so was hoping Italian for Wednesday 2/14 possibly too. Doing steak possibly Thursday at The Orleans and definitely Friday at Joes Stone Crab already, so was hoping to avoid something like that upon arrival, if that makes sense.

by Can U Get This Out m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58431281#post58431281)

Thanks, but with it being V-Day the day we arrive I was hoping to secure a reservation at one of the places from the list. Having a current, known list in advance was the purpose for my ask. [emoji41] I know the list can/does change often. Had Italian reservation at South Point originally, so was hoping Italian for Wednesday 2/14 possibly too. Doing steak possibly Thursday a... See full post

Almafi in Caesars and Giada at Cromwell on list If want to go there I’m sure they can confirm ya or nay when making reservation if call

by ScotchOnDaRocks m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58431286#post58431286)

Almafi in Caesars and Giada at Cromwell on list If want to go there I’m sure they can confirm ya or nay when making reservation if call

Thank you.

Giada does. Used mine last year there without issue.

Can't get the link to work, but here's what it shows: HORSESHOE Flavortown Jack Binion’s Steakhouse LavAzza Nosh CAESARS PALACE Amalfi by Bobby Flay Bacchanal Buffet Beijing Noodle No. 9 Brasserie B Brioche By Guy Savoy Forum Food Hall Bobby’s Burgers DiFara Pizza The Halal Guys Starbucks® Gordon Ramsay Hell's Kitchen Gordon Ramsay Pub & Grill Guy Fieri’s Chicken Guy Mr. Chow Montecristo Cigar Bar (Not valid for retail purchases) Nobu Restaurant and Lounge Peter Luger Steakhouse Pronto by Giada Restaurant Guy Savoy Stanton Social Prime Vanderpump Cocktail Garden THE CROMWELL GIADA FLAMINGO Bugsy & Meyer’s Steakhouse Gordon Ramsay’s Fish and Chips Nook Express THE LINQ Guy Fieri’s Vegas Kitchen & Bar Gordon Ramsay Fish & Chips HARRAH’S Fulton Street Food Hall Ramsay’s Kitchen Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse PARIS Gordon Ramsay Steak JJ’s Boulangerie La Crêperie The Bedford by Martha Stewart Nobu Paris Vanderpump Paris PLANET HOLLYWOOD Gordon Ramsay Burger Pin-up Pizza Ringer Wing

“Your mom” Thanks.

by Can U Get This Out m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58431401#post58431401)

“Your mom” Thanks.

I would double check the celebration dinner participation when you call to make your reservation.

Thanks all.

by NTellier85 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58414876#post58414876)

You can currently match your Caesars Diamond to Wyndham Diamond RIGHT NOW at this link https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-re... (https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndham-rewards/caesars-rewards/status-match)

So for the last 2 days I've been trying to initiate the match back to Wyndham Diamond (I did the same last January). Tried different browsers, phone/laptop, always the same problems. A) I click on the link above and the website opens. There is a blue button in the middle of the webpage that reads 'Sign In' but clicking it does nothing. On the top right of website another Sign In button for your Wyndham account works and after my log in there it brings up the website to fill in your Caesars number, email, birthdate,... B) So I fill that out (with same info I used successfully last year since nothing changed) then hit 'Submit' but always get the following error message in red ink: "We're sorry, something went wrong. Please try again later." Could anyone be so nice to check if it's a "me problem" or site-wide by clicking the link and A) - seeing if hitting the blue 'Sign In' box does anything like bring up actual new screen? B) - if you enter your info after signing in and submit your (dummy) match attempt is there any error message? Thanks very much in advance...

Maybe this is the method to stop the tier match merry go round for the year 2024? During the month of January they disallow any tier matches and resume the tier match process only after February 1, so that after February 1, 2024 only those with earned status can do the match.

pretty sure i just got my bonus tier from last years promo 500 to 100 thing

by WH-Caesars m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58434096#post58434096)

So for the last 2 days I've been trying to initiate the match back to Wyndham Diamond (I did the same last January). Tried different browsers, phone/laptop, always the same problems.On the top right of website another Sign In button for your Wyndham account works and after my log in there it brings up the website to fill in your Caesars number, email, birthdate,...B) So I fill ... See full post

I matched mine using the method above a couple weeks ago with no problem.

by pwnsall m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58434436#post58434436)

pretty sure i just got my bonus tier from last years promo 500 to 100 thing

Same

I found out that Diamond members who have stays which straddle the February 1, 2024 or which end on checkout of February 1, 2024 will get charged resort fee, parking fee, and internet fee. So all the merry go rounders need to be checked out of CET on or before January 31, 2024 to avoid the resort fee and wait until fully matched online because for existing members the rewards desk cannot match Wyndham Diamon status to CET Diamond in person.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58439257#post58439257)

I found out that Diamond members who have stays which straddle the February 1, 2024 or which end on checkout of February 1, 2024 will get charged resort fee, parking fee, and internet fee. So all the merry go rounders need to be checked out of CET on or before January 31, 2024 to avoid the resort fee and wait until fully matched online because for existing members the rewards ... See full post

they can't charge you for these things for days you're actually diamond. Additionally any email reservation you have won't mention resort fees assuming you were diamond when you booked it. Now their hot garbage computer system by default may charge you fees for all of your days when you checkout but if you talk to the front desk they'll take them off, and may even take them off for your entire stay.

by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58439294#post58439294)

they can't charge you for these things for days you're actually diamond. Additionally any email reservation you have won't mention resort fees assuming you were diamond when you booked it. Now their hot garbage computer system by default may charge you fees for all of your days when you checkout but if you talk to the front desk they'll take them off, and may even take them off... See full post

I'm staying at a strip property tonight and will see how it goes. What I am curious about is how ill have diamond when I swipe in the garage but not when I go to leave.

by kjonly m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58435733#post58435733)

I matched mine using the method above a couple weeks ago with no problem.

How? The merry go round is dead unless you match from the wyndham business credit card.

by STLNolaWoj m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58443563#post58443563)

How? The merry go round is dead unless you match from the wyndham business credit card. ... See full post

They said this last year as well.still worked for some people and not for others.

I made diamond plus last year with caesars for the first time and was really underwhelmed by the overall rewards. Does anyone have a suggestion as to whether I should stay with caesars or switch all my play to MGM or a different casino? For background: I usually play $100+/hand blackjack, $25-50/min craps with lots of bets across the table, and $5-$50/hand VP. lost roughly $20k over the year at CET properties over 100ish? hours gambling, and $10k or so more at all other casinos combined. Plus I spent a LOT on dining, entertainment, etc. this is discretionary income that I plan to lose every year regardless of comps - I know chasing comps is a sucker’s game, but I’d like to feel a better return if I’m dumping 5 figures every year. For example, my host (politely) told me to take a lap when I asked about 2023 F1 tickets, while the mirage hooked it up despite way less play. Wynn & venetian have never sent me anything so I assume I don’t play high enough to get on their radar yet.

"For current active FoundersCard Members in good standing, accounts should be updated and extended to 2025 by February 2, 2024."

My Caesars profile page now shows Diamond through 2025

by apricotjello m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58444610#post58444610)

I made diamond plus last year with caesars for the first time and was really underwhelmed by the overall rewards. Does anyone have a suggestion as to whether I should stay with caesars or switch all my play to MGM or a different casino? For background: I usually play $100+/hand blackjack, $25-50/min craps with lots of bets across the table, and $5-$50/hand VP. lost roughly $20k... See full post

There are some participants in this thread who can’t bear a person not having the same rosy view of Caesar’s Reward as they do. If they choose to needlessly contradict you, I would suggest you just ignore them, else you may find yourself stuck in an endless spiral of nonsense and stupidity. Anyhow, I know exactly how you feel vis-a-vis Caesars. Losing money doesn’t feel good, no matter what the amount means to a person. One of the main reasons loyalty programs exist is to make losing just a little less painful. In addition to all the ways Caesar’s Rewards perks have been degraded in recent years, and documented in this thread, another point of frustration has to do with the tier structure itself. Caesar’s is now telling us the difference between a customer who risks and often loses 5 figures and a person who contributes a few hundred dollars in credit card fees may be as little as 10k tier points (diamond to diamond+). Considering the significant deflation in the value of tier points with all these multiplier promotions, the difference between Diamond and Diamond+ is even less significant. I imagine it’s not something which makes people gambling at the level you describe feel very good. I will add, outside of interactions with a host, I don’t think the Cesars Reward program really cares how much a person loses. I’ve had good years and bad years and didn’t notice any difference. All that mattered was the rating and volume. I doubt this is very different with other programs. It’s an unfortunate side effect of taking agency away from floor personnel when it comes to dispensing perks and making it all formulaic.

by apricotjello m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58444610#post58444610)

I made diamond plus last year with caesars for the first time and was really underwhelmed by the overall rewards. Does anyone have a suggestion as to whether I should stay with caesars or switch all my play to MGM or a different casino? For background: I usually play $100+/hand blackjack, $25-50/min craps with lots of bets across the table, and $5-$50/hand VP. lost roughly $20k... See full post

I have status all over the city (Seven Stars with Ceasars), so I'll tell you what I think. I play craps usually $600-$800 to start the roll and usually partially press bets...sometimes I have several thousand when the crap out hits. BJ $200-$2000 a hand I don't play too often although I might start playing more instead of so much craps. Pai Gow $300-$1500 a hand. I play quite a bit. Video poker Ultimate X $25-50 a spin. Venetian/Palazzo, nice hotel but their comps aren't that good. When they give free play they take the chip win or lose, so it's value is about 1/2 what they give you. Their food comps can be used at their restaurants but not at the ones in the food court. Overall, I'm trying to phase them out. MGM, I have been trying to phase them out. I really like some of their hotels like Aria, but I don't feel I get great comp value with them. Their comp chips play until you lose so good value there. Wynn....I dropped 10K-$15k there in one quick sitting a while back and all I get offered is $400 resort credit and hotel...although they want their resort fee, so I haven't bothered with them...last time I stayed there was about 13 years ago. Station Casinos. I recently stayed at Red Rock and gambled. Their promo chips are like Venetian's win or lose they take the chip. Their Craps is good 10X odds on the pass line all across. If you like crapless craps it is 5X odds. They gave me a generous resort credit of $600 last stay. Their food is inexpensive (Relative to other casinos) and they have nice facilities. I'm starting to migrate more play their way and see if I they are as decent as Caesars. Insofar as Ceasars is concerned, so far they seem to offer the best comps to me. When I take a loss, the host who normally adds either free play or lots of extra food onto my account...but I do have to ask. I had a terrible year last year, my worst ever and earned around 1.3 million tier credits but it cost me dearly. If you can hit seven star it does give some pretty good perks, many of which I don't really use.

by offTopic m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58444968#post58444968)

"For current active FoundersCard Members in good standing, accounts should be updated and extended to 2025 by February 2, 2024."

My Caesars profile page now shows Diamond through 2025

Same. I was Gold yesterday, Diamond today.

by marknfw m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58445834#post58445834)

Same. I was Gold yesterday, Diamond today.

Im still Gold I put in another match request and email today to see if that would move it along faster. Maybe they are doing the Founders Card matches first since they pay more per year.

by apricotjello m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58444610#post58444610)

I made diamond plus last year with caesars for the first time and was really underwhelmed by the overall rewards. Does anyone have a suggestion as to whether I should stay with caesars or switch all my play to MGM or a different casino? For background: I usually play $100+/hand blackjack, $25-50/min craps with lots of bets across the table, and $5-$50/hand VP. lost roughly $20k... See full post

Wow, that seems exceptional given the amount of play. Mirage is Hard Rock, right? Maybe they are trying hard to cultivate medium-high players to build a base.

Still no Diamond from the Wyndham credit card match yet. I called Wyndham and they said there is a room in Wyndham which does the matches over two weeks and nobody can call them either customers or employees but that after two weeks, that customer service can send the matching room an email. Meanwhile the Founders Card people all have been matched very rapidly.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58448354#post58448354)

Still no Diamond from the Wyndham credit card match yet. I called Wyndham and they said there is a room in Wyndham which does the matches over two weeks and nobody can call them either customers or employees but that after two weeks, that customer service can send the matching room an email. Meanwhile the Founders Card people all have been matched very rapidly.

I match through my Wyndham’s business card and it wasn’t letting me match to Caesars. It kept saying something went wrong and to try again later. I live chatted with someone and they said the system is down and they won’t expect it up again until early March.

by topg2024 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58448354#post58448354)

Still no Diamond from the Wyndham credit card match yet. I called Wyndham and they said there is a room in Wyndham which does the matches over two weeks and nobody can call them either customers or employees but that after two weeks, that customer service can send the matching room an email. Meanwhile the Founders Card people all have been matched very rapidly.

wyndam matches tend to take a week or two.

by redantfarm m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58445348#post58445348)

I have status all over the city (Seven Stars with Ceasars), so I'll tell you what I think. I play craps usually $600-$800 to start the roll and usually partially press bets...sometimes I have several thousand when the crap out hits. BJ $200-$2000 a hand I don't play too often although I might start playing more instead of so much craps.Pai Gow $300-$1500 a hand. I play qui... See full post

Agreed, Caesars is pretty damn good