Let's start this thread now that we know there is going to be one! I'm hoping for lot of juicy PLO games, mixed games, and I guess NLHE games Do we think we'll get a big tournament series with a large main event? Several large tournament series? Looking forward to seeing you all in person at RWNYC, hopefully in March 2026!
Resorts World NYC (Queens, NY)
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WSOP main event in queens lol But who knows for now, the bigger the better but that 16hr time frame slightly annoying
16 hour timeframe in the city that never sleeps is a slap in the face.
I wonder if they have any plans for regular stream games. I wonder if they will have boxes for poker players.
I doubt theyll do streaming, not initially at least
As a Queens New Yorker, I am really excited for this. I seldom play in casinos, and the last time I played in a Casino (Mount Aire) I was frustrated due to the lack of available tables and long wait time to play. Let's see how this casino goes!
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186350#post59186350)
WSOP main event in queens lol But who knows for now, the bigger the better but that 16hr time frame slightly annoying
There's no reason why we can't have something like Wynn is doing in Vegas in December, or dare I say the $25k WSOP Main in the Bahamas by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186357#post59186357)
16 hour timeframe in the city that never sleeps is a slap in the face.
I just can't see how they're not 24/7 outside of a year from opening. I would bet at least 1k on it if anyone wants to take my action haha by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186383#post59186383)
I wonder if they have any plans for regular stream games. I wonder if they will have boxes for poker players.
I say this honestly, you should lobby whomever is the Poker Room Manager for these things. You're a social media guy, and I am too, so maybe we can bend someone's ear about it. Depsite how much I dislike MGM, I do like the social media stuff they do for poker with Abby and those people. Something like that would drive a lot of traffic into the casino in general
Youd have to give me at least 10/1 odds lol. No way id take that bet at even money. And maybe its just me but while that social media stuff wsop has been doing is “necessary”, a lot of it feels forced and corny I hope there are big tournament series/events, but that will take time doubt it will be in place off rip
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186690#post59186690)
There's no reason why we can't have something like Wynn is doing in Vegas in December, or dare I say the $25k WSOP Main in the BahamasI just can't see how they're not 24/7 outside of a year from opening. I would bet at least 1k on it if anyone wants to take my action hahaI say this honestly, you should lobby whomever is the Poker Room Manager for these things. You're a social m... See full post
Streamed games are a way to drive action to a casino/poker room. This place won't need that. What we're likely to get is some 40 table room with crazy long wait lists while the other 2 casinos aren't even built yet. Abby is bringing zero action to mgm poker rooms. Borgata loves to use her on social media and the place is a complete ghost town. They'd be better off doing things like paying cashiers than whatever money they're wasting on her.
yeah if anything this place would need a ton of negative publicity just so we could get a seat within 2 hours of arriving there
by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59187080#post59187080)
Streamed games are a way to drive action to a casino/poker room. This place won't need that. What we're likely to get is some 40 table room with crazy long wait lists while the other 2 casinos aren't even built yet.Abby is bringing zero action to mgm poker rooms. Borgata loves to use her on social media and the place is a complete ghost town. They'd be better off doing things l... See full post
Word on the street is that RunningBettor is the best content creator out of Borgata currently :P
by Alpha Fish m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59187603#post59187603)
yeah if anything this place would need a ton of negative publicity just so we could get a seat within 2 hours of arriving there
Still wouldn’t matter lol
If you build it, they will come.
Has there actually been confirmation that they proposed poker and that it will be opened that soon? Poker usually isn’t a priority…
by Mench m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188452#post59188452)
Has there actually been confirmation that they proposed poker and that it will be opened that soon Poker usually isn't a priority.
Yea its in their blueprints, 16 hour room so far
by Mench m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188452#post59188452)
Has there actually been confirmation that they proposed poker and that it will be opened that soon Poker usually isn't a priority.
Indirectly confirmed through a (probably mistakenly) unredacted hours of operation document. No confirmation of whether it will be part of the initial opening or if not when it would be opened. If they’re actually opening 250 tables in March though, that’s already a huge casino, I could see them carving out 50 for poker. Bigger concern is training the staff I think.
Let's temper our expectations while at the same time, remain cautiously optimistic. If Resorts World has taught us anything, it is that no matter the demand for poker, poker is NOT a main focus for their corporation and never will be. Look at their absolute and continued botching of Poker from 2018-present when they opened RW Catskills and to this very day (moving the room twice including its first and current location being off the casino floor and tucked into a second floor nook unviewable from the main action, plus, hiring unqualified staff who do not know poker rules, etc.), and more importantly, look at their Vegas property having NO POKER AT ALL. RW NYC can be the only game in town here in NYC so to speak when it comes to poker, but that does not mean they will smartly "read the room" and set up a poker room akin to Tropicana circa 2001-2004 (54 tables), Borgata 2004-2014 (80+), Maryland Live (40+), or Parx, all of which is the best case scenario. Heck, their RW Catskills room is STILL not a 24 hour room, and while I realize there are fewer players in the Hudson Valley compared to NYC, they won't automatically keep the room open 24 hours just because NYC is the "city that never sleeps" and the rest of their casino might be open 24 hours. The only way to force their hand is to make sure that, from the jump, there are 40+ players willing to grind all night, every night, to warrant a change in operational hours, because they surely will not extend hours in order to accommodate one or two 1/3, 2/5, or 5/10 tables playing past 3AM. As for large tournaments and multi-day tournament series, again, let's not get ahead of ourselves, and instead make sure that the decision makers hear on a daily basis that there will be lots of people willing to invest in it. Speaking honestly here, I would not get too excited for any WSOP circuits in NYC because Caesar's properties will not bring a Caesar-owned outfit into a rival casino; look at who hosts the circuits currently: -Caesar's properties across the country, -Casinos with a working relationship or a history of working relationships with Caesars (reference Turning Stone in upstate NY for whom Caesar's used to run their sports book), and, -Independent casinos that do not try to compete with Caesar's. Since Caesar's sees properties like MGM, Resorts World, and Hard Rock as direct competition, and Caesar's already hosts TWO WSOP circuits within a 4 hour drive/250 miles of NYC (Turning Stone and Horseshoe Baltimore), having one in NYC is unlikely unless Caesar's obtains their own license here in the Big Apple; in fact, Hard Rock TULSA is the only site slated for a WSOP circuit in 2026 owned by a major rival of Caesar's (likely because it's in the middle nowhere with no Caesar's properties for hundreds of miles). Furthermore, even if Uncle Stevie gets a Hard Rock casino at Citi Field, I still don't see Hard Rock and Caesar's offering to partner up for a WSOP circuit because of the proximity to the other circuit events on the east coast, one of which fills 85+ tables on a daily basis in a 5,000 seat event center when it is in swing. Your best wish for multi-event week-long poker events is that the powers-that-be see the demand for poker tournaments from us the enthusiastic locals and formulate their own ala MGM/Borgata and Hard Rock Hollywood Florida. I think, for RW NYC poker beginnings, we should be prepared for a 20-table room, 1/2 NL $300 buy-in or 1/3 NL $500 buy-in being the most common stakes game, time-rake games for those above 5/10 NL, and occasional 2/2 or 5/5 PLOs running but not the norm. I'll even concede you MIGHT (pending approval of the NYS Gaming Board) see a 5/5 or 10/10 Double board Bomb Pot game on the regular, but that might even be a stretch. I'm all for poker in my city, I am a 15 minute drive to Aqueduct and I can walk from my house to Citi Field when that one gets up and running, and I will give RW NYC a chance to earn my poker business; but if Resorts World doesn't learn from their mistakes from RWC, I won't be frequenting the new poker room too often. Still, I want to see it succeed and I want to see our local poker community build up stronger because of a clean, comfortable room in which to play.
If its only 20 tables wait lists will be humongous
I would lay a hefty bet that they do not spread 1/2
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188606#post59188606)
I would lay a hefty bet that they do not spread 1/2
Do many places spread 1-2 any more?
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188574#post59188574)
If its only 20 tables wait lists will be humongous
Yes, they will be, but again, I refer to the fact that RW does not value poker enough to give us a 15000+ square foot poker room and thus would rather use the space 20 extra poker tables would take up in order to put 100 additional slot machines which will generate them more revenue. We have to be ready for long waits, especially in the first couple of months. If they are smart they will allow automatic sync for Bravo to connect to players cards so we can sign up virtually, then at least you can log in at 7-8AM and have a puncher's chance to get a seat when they open tables in the morning... We are going to have to get through the initial growing pains before we see positive growth, just be ready for it...
how many slots don't actually generate much revenue anyway? That's my argument for them having a bigger room.
- Brings people to the casino, okay you play poker but your wife/girlfriend/friends might not and go gamble elsewhere in RW.
- Generates rake and there Will be a demand for poker.
- Poker players also like to gamble. Even "pros" go on tilt and head to the pit on occasion.
I agree we should be cautiously optimistic especially early on but check Bravo and you'll see why it makes no sense for RW Catskills to be a 24 hour room. Resorts World Vegas also does have a poker room.
by TheGramuel m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188613#post59188613)
Do many places spread 1-2 any more?
1/2 is going extinct. 1/3 is typically the live small stakes game in today's casinos. I'd personally like to see 2/5 (200-500) replace 1/3 as the smallest game soon.
I heard tworooks' basement casino spreads 1-2.
Random side question but does anyone know if the slots/video poker will still be VLTs or if they will put in all new slots and video poker machines?
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188671#post59188671)
I heard tworooks' basement casino spreads 1-2.
for those that didn't get the reference, it was a classic thread in 2005. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/po... (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/my-home-casino-22/?highlight=)
They have a tooooon of slots and so much room in that casino that its not an either or situation. Both will fit easily
by Carnivore m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188640#post59188640)
1/2 is going extinct. 1/3 is typically the live small stakes game in today's casinos. I'd personally like to see 2/5 (200-500) replace 1/3 as the smallest game soon.
There should be something between 2/5 and 5/10 if that’s the case. 3/6 or 4/8
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188621#post59188621)
how many slots don't actually generate much revenue anyway? That's my argument for them having a bigger room. 1. Brings people to the casino, okay you play poker but your wife/girlfriend/friends might not and go gamble elsewhere in RW. 2. Generates rake and there Will be a demand for poker.3. Poker players also like to gamble. Even "pros" go on tilt and head to the pit on occas... See full post
- More people coming to the casino for slots than poker, by several hundred percent. This saddens me as a poker player who hates slots, but it's the truth. A 20 table poker room can conceivably make room for 160-200 poker players who came with non-poker players, and to most all casinos, that is plenty. Again, makes me sad because I'd also rather see a 40-50 table room but realism and mathematics dictate the casinos see poker as a breakeven at best vs a surefire way to essentially print their own money with slot machines.
- Yes it generates rake, and yes there will be a demand for poker, but the rake generated is nowhere near the amount of revenue generated by a slot machine, not to mention 99% of slot machines take up way less space than a poker table and do not need a human dealer to run it, so less in payroll to run a slot machine. A slot machine that automatically generates a losing spin can bring in the same amount of money in 3 seconds that a poker table can rake in one hand that lasts 2-3 minutes. Multiply that over one hour of hands vs spins and you'll see why casinos prefer using their square footage for slots vs poker.
- Exactly my point - you said "on occasion" - a casino has no reason to make a 40 table room when a 20 table room does the same job for them and makes room for more profitable games. Look - I love to play craps, but I don't play after being "on tilt" in the poker room. Craps is fun, but it is also my second preferred game to poker, and I play it in order to earn comps and free rooms at casinos because you can't get the same value perks at the poker table. Like many of its competitors, RW does a terrible job rating their table games players correctly for average bet and length of play. I'll be happy to give them my craps play when they have fixed this, but until I see changes, RW is in the same category for me as Caesar's and Hard Rock when it comes to table games rating: in the sh*tter. Look, I'm not TRYING to pessimistic here - I would love to see this yet-to-open room be like Maryland Live, Parx, or National Harbor where you know any day of the week there will be 20+ tables running at all time, but I don't see that happening until the decision makers at RW see physical evidence of 200-300 people wanting poker seats at all times, and that, my friend, will take some time, hence, tempered expectations between now and the opening of a giant (30+ tables) NYC poker room.
lol wat
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188908#post59188908)
There should be something between 2/5 and 5/10 if that’s the case. 3/6 or 4/8
There's two of these that are/used to be in existence: 5/5 NL - used to be played at Dania Jai Alai in Hollywood Florida (along with 1/1NL for the Octogenarians on a budget), before they deleted Jai Alai and converted the building into The Casino at Dania Beach. 5/5 is a fun game, but not enough demand for it unless you make it as such once the new room opens and the gaming control board green lights it. Then there is the roller coaster that is 5/5 or 10/10 Double Board Bomb Pot - while it's not TRUE hold-em, the stakes run in between 2/5 and 5/10, and **** always goes down at those table if you've ever played it at Borgata.
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188926#post59188926)
- More people coming to the casino for slots than poker, by several hundred percent. This saddens me as a poker player who hates slots, but it's the truth. A 20 table poker room can conceivably make room for 160-200 poker players who came with non-poker players, and to most all casinos, that is plenty. Again, makes me sad because I'd also rather see a 40-50 table room but r... See full post
With just the initial opening of 250 gaming tables total, it’s bigger than Borgata. Everything you’re saying makes sense I just think you’re underestimating the scale of this project and the size of the New York market. I would be astonished if their final poker room is less than 30 tables, and tbh 50 is probably closer to the minimum. As to what’s running, Parx runs 10/10 every day of the week, with a player pool that’s over half New Yorkers. 5/10+ is going to run every day.
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188929#post59188929)
There's two of these that are/used to be in existence:5/5 NL - used to be played at Dania Jai Alai in Hollywood Florida (along with 1/1NL for the Octogenarians on a budget), before they deleted Jai Alai and converted the building into The Casino at Dania Beach. 5/5 is a fun game, but not enough demand for it unless you make it as such once the new room opens and the gaming con... See full post
Splitting hairs here but the double board bomb pot games where they only do bomb pots don’t run at 5/10 or higher, and most the 5/10+ games never do bomb pots because they’re only needed to generate action if the game is nitty. 5-10 minute hands that almost always chop are kind of silly
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188929#post59188929)
There's two of these that are/used to be in existence:5/5 NL - used to be played at Dania Jai Alai in Hollywood Florida (along with 1/1NL for the Octogenarians on a budget), before they deleted Jai Alai and converted the building into The Casino at Dania Beach. 5/5 is a fun game, but not enough demand for it unless you make it as such once the new room opens and the gaming con... See full post
I only played it on a dealer change, not the game where every hand is a bomb pot
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188926#post59188926)
- More people coming to the casino for slots than poker, by several hundred percent. This saddens me as a poker player who hates slots, but it's the truth. A 20 table poker room can conceivably make room for 160-200 poker players who came with non-poker players, and to most all casinos, that is plenty. Again, makes me sad because I'd also rather see a 40-50 table room but r... See full post
Youre underestimating how huge RW is. Its damn near an airport but a casino lol
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188926#post59188926)
- More people coming to the casino for slots than poker, by several hundred percent. This saddens me as a poker player who hates slots, but it's the truth. A 20 table poker room can conceivably make room for 160-200 poker players who came with non-poker players, and to most all casinos, that is plenty. Again, makes me sad because I'd also rather see a 40-50 table room but r... See full post
I’m sorry I had to come back to this, it is going to take zero time to prove that 200-300 people want seats at all times. They’re gonna have twice that on lists off the rip
by Carnivore m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59188640#post59188640)
1/2 is going extinct. 1/3 is typically the live small stakes game in today's casinos. I'd personally like to see 2/5 (200-500) replace 1/3 as the smallest game soon.
Plenty of people just won't play 2-5, in order to replace the smallest game effectively they would need to put a 500 cap on it I think. I personally play like 75% 2-5 23% 1-3 and then the very rare shot take at 5-10 when game is right, but 2-5 1k cap plays ENORMOUS compared to 1-3 500 cap and a lot of people dont want that.
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59189077#post59189077)
I’m sorry I had to come back to this, it is going to take zero time to prove that 200-300 people want seats at all times. They’re gonna have twice that on lists off the rip
Dilly I HOPE I am wrong, believe me. I want a robust poker room in NYC. I know RW NYC is large in square footage, but square footage does not automatically equal large poker room with 40-50+ tables. I just feel like there's a lot of expectations from NYC poker players who are jumping to the conclusion that "since there is no room here, the room will be huge". 200-300 on waiting lists will be great to see if in fact that is how this goes down, but even Tropicana AC had to expand their poker room pre-poker boom due to demand, which leads me to think that IF the demand is there (again, which I hope it is), RW will start with a small room, and then expand if the demand is undeniable and there for a prolonged period of time.
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59189046#post59189046)
I only played it on a dealer change, not the game where every hand is a bomb pot
It's an incredible rush - lots of chaos. Next time you're at Borgata give it a shot for a little while, they have a table running almost every day (listed as 1/3 Bomb but its a $10 ante per hand per person).
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59189701#post59189701)
IF the demand is there (again, which I hope it is), RW will start with a small room, and then expand if the demand is undeniable and there for a prolonged period of time.
The problem, though, is that if they start small and get overwhelmed, some people won't go and bad word of mouth will spread. Once they get a reputation as the place where you have to wait hours for a game, it'll be hard to shake with an expansion. I know I won't go if the waits are insane...why drive 30–40 minutes to wait around for a seat if I can drive an hour more and be playing at the end of it? (Yes, yes, the action will be insane, Borgata and Parx will have died off, think of the whales, the whales...but if I'm going somewhere because I want to play poker, I'd like to actually play poker when I get there.)
by sirpupnyc m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59189796#post59189796)
The problem, though, is that if they start small and get overwhelmed, some people won't go and bad word of mouth will spread. Once they get a reputation as the place where you have to wait hours for a game, it'll be hard to shake with an expansion. I know I won't go if the waits are insane...why drive 30–40 minutes to wait around for a seat if I can drive an hour more and be pl... See full post
No it won't. People will hear about the expansion. I'm not going either if wait lists are crazy long. But if i then hear about an expansion I'll go.
they will get overwhelmed even if they open a 70 table room there's roughly 120 live games going on right now in LA, now double the population - that's the demand
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186357#post59186357)
16 hour timeframe in the city that never sleeps is a slap in the face.
NYC rebranded as the city that gets a solid 8 hours even on the weekends!!
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59189704#post59189704)
It's an incredible rush - lots of chaos. Next time you're at Borgata give it a shot for a little while, they have a table running almost every day (listed as 1/3 Bomb but its a $10 ante per hand per person).
I’ll check it out next time im there
by LucidDream m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59189864#post59189864)
NYC rebranded as the city that gets a solid 8 hours even on the weekends!!
not having the room be 24 hours on the weekend seems so wrong and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they changed their hours before opening.
Dealer school at RW starts Jan 5 and I think it’s not looking great for poker. Nothing in the application allows you to specify what game you want to deal, and it uses the phrasing “table games” fairly often. Dealer schools in general run for 4-12 weeks, with poker generally being longer than table games. Part time v full time obviously influences school length and it looks like the application implies there will be sessions each day of 4 hours. At this point I’m pretty skeptical they open in March, and near positive poker won’t be a part of it. I think July is our earliest hope for poker opening.
For poker (at least initially) theyre gonna prolly bring in outside talent. Thats what mgm was saying while they were planning on bringing table games to yonkers
The school they have listed on their website is for table games only. I believe when RWC started, they made people take the table games class before taking the poker class. They wanted to make sure table games were staffed first, then let people move to poker when they had dealers to spare. Poker is not the priority. As for bringing in outside talent, there won't be enough. Let's say it's just 40 tables. They will need 150+ dealers to fully staff them. There simply aren't 150 experienced dealers ready to drop everything and move to Queens the day they open the room, especially when it's likely to be delayed. It's not like opening a room in Las Vegas where there's hundreds of underworked dealers waiting and cheap temporary housing for anyone moving there. I talked to a RWC pit boss a week ago and he didn't think they'd even picked a room manager yet. They may try to have someone run poker and pit games like they do at RWC. I really hope Hard Rock gets construction going fast. They actually understand poker.
HR is 5 years away, even if RW has the highest rake worst floors and dealers of all time I'll still play there
construction fast? Don't hold your breath. They have to build an entire complex.
It's not as big a deal it's only open 16 hours. It'll probably go from 12 pm to 4am.
by Reducto m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59192821#post59192821)
The school they have listed on their website is for table games only. I believe when RWC started, they made people take the table games class before taking the poker class. They wanted to make sure table games were staffed first, then let people move to poker when they had dealers to spare. Poker is not the priority.As for bringing in outside talent, there won't be enough. Let'... See full post
March might be pushing it but theyll figure something out by the end of 2026 i think
RW is going to try and make as much as possible off of table games and slots while they're still the only game in town. People should really reign in their poker expectations until we see something concrete. They're going to have years as the only NYC casino.
by Reducto m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59192821#post59192821)
The school they have listed on their website is for table games only. I believe when RWC started, they made people take the table games class before taking the poker class. They wanted to make sure table games were staffed first, then let people move to poker when they had dealers to spare. Poker is not the priority.As for bringing in outside talent, there won't be enough. Let'... See full post
- Agree on poker not being a priority and that they might start with table games only first.
- As far as dealers go, there are a lot of dealers dealing dozens of underground games in the greater NYC area. Sure, they will need to take the classes for a state license, but many of them deal better than an average Atlantic City dealer already.
Underground dealers aren’t taking a paycut.
by AALegend m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59193208#post59193208)
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Agree on poker not being a priority and that they might start with table games only first.
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As far as dealers go, there are a lot of dealers dealing dozens of underground games in the greater NYC area. Sure, they will need to take the classes for a state license, but many of them deal better than an average Atlantic City dealer already.
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probably make more dealing underground. So until those games sd the dealers are not going to take a pay cut to go to casino job
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if they ever had a run in whi,e dealing underground, they likely can’t get a state license
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even dozens of under ground games, with many of these dealers dealing at multiple,e of these, are not going to be enough. And you seem to assume these underground games just go poof to make these dealers available. Those games are going nowhere initially.
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59193270#post59193270)
Underground dealers aren’t taking a paycut.
This. I've heard from a couple of old timers that when Resorts in AC opened in the late 70s (first legal casino outside of Nevada) a lot of the dealers were from NYC underground casinos and they were robbing the place blind.
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186690#post59186690)
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186350#post59186350)
WSOP main event in queens lolBut who knows for now, the bigger the better but that 16hr time frame slightly annoying
There's no reason why we can't have something like Wynn is doing in Vegas in December, or dare I say the $25k WSOP Main in the Bahamas by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186357#post59186357)
16 hour timeframe in the city that never sleeps is a slap in the face.
I just can't see how they're not 24/7 outside of a year from... See full post
I was cheated at resorts catskills. The game was rigged like the one that is getting attention with sports players.
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186690#post59186690)
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186350#post59186350)
WSOP main event in queens lolBut who knows for now, the bigger the better but that 16hr time frame slightly annoying
There's no reason why we can't have something like Wynn is doing in Vegas in December, or dare I say the $25k WSOP Main in the Bahamas by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59186357#post59186357)
16 hour timeframe in the city that never sleeps is a slap in the face.
I just can't see how they're not 24/7 outside of a year from... See full post
I was cheated at resorts catskills. The game was rigged like the one that is getting attention with sports players.
by Kpot m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59194171#post59194171)
I was cheated at resorts catskills. The game was rigged like the one that is getting attention with sports players.
Could you share more on the exact cheating that happened to you at Catskills (as I also play there occasionally)?
Why should poker expectations be tempered. It's first NY poker casino that overrides all of this
Whether it starts at march or a few months later wont matter.
by AALegend m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59194335#post59194335)
by Kpot m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59194171#post59194171)
I was cheated at resorts catskills. The game was rigged like the one that is getting attention with sports players.
Could you share more on the exact cheating that happened to you at Catskills (as I also play there occasionally)?
This guy hand headphones on and like 10 buy ins from me. He called in the blinds w ace rag off. I believe the game was rigged a waswere feeding my hand info to him. He had like 20 buy ins or more on the table. When i had aa and he had a6 and flopped trips that
Im not some clown i played online and i heard people talking about my game. Was doing good for a while then that happened. Mount airy has wild games. Recommend that but on a full table you will get one raise and everyone will call!
Im not some clown i played online and i heard people talking about my game. Was doing good for a while then that happened. Mount airy has wild games. Recommend that but on a full table you will get one raise and everyone will call!
by IntheFold m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59194469#post59194469)
Why should poker expectations be tempered. It's first NY poker casino that overrides all of this
Because people are acting like it's gonna be the greatest thing ever and we might be stuck with one 30 table room in a city with 9 million people.
by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59195117#post59195117)
Because people are acting like it's gonna be the greatest thing ever and we might be stuck with one 30 table room in a city with 9 million people.
Oh, come on, 9 million people? Subtract the toddlers still mastering Go Fish, the retirees glued to bingo, and the hipsters who think poker is "too mainstream" unless it's ironic with craft beer. That leaves like 47 degenerates with actual bankrolls, and half of 'em are bluffing about their rent money. One 30-table room? It'll be a ghost town with more dealers than players!
30 table room better than a 0 table room
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59195923#post59195923)
30 table room better than a 0 table room
Nothing to go crazy over unless you live extremely close.
by borg23 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59196106#post59196106)
Nothing to go crazy over unless you live extremely close.
For somebody in the tristate area with no drivers license its by far the best legal option
by Kpot m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59194962#post59194962)
This guy hand headphones on and like 10 buy ins from me. He called in the blinds w ace rag off. I believe the game was rigged a waswere feeding my hand info to him. He had like 20 buy ins or more on the table. When i had aa and he had a6 and flopped trips that
What stakes were you playing?
by TheGramuel m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197245#post59197245)
What stakes were you playing?
Humbly requesting we not derail this thread giving any merit to the referenced claim lol
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197266#post59197266)
Humbly requesting we not derail this thread giving any merit to the referenced claim lol
lol boring (but fair enough)
So nobody gonna play any table games if they get rolled out before poker? Ill prolly dabble in blackjack or ultimate hold em
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197368#post59197368)
So nobody gonna play any table games if they get rolled out before poker? Ill prolly dabble in blackjack or ultimate hold em
I have every intention of being there opening day poker or not lol
by TheGramuel m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197312#post59197312)
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197266#post59197266)
Humbly requesting we not derail this thread giving any merit to the referenced claim lol
lol boring (but fair enough)
And there wasnt an accident where glass fell on players in the food court? Place sucks!
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197266#post59197266)
Humbly requesting we not derail this thread giving any merit to the referenced claim lol
by Kpot m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197535#post59197535)
And there wasnt an accident where glass fell on players in the food court Place sucks!
I'm a Mod (of only the Sporting Events Forum) but I can just plainly say that we should stay on topic itt for the most part, and not derail this thread wildly. Thanks in advance. 👍
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197368#post59197368)
So nobody gonna play any table games if they get rolled out before poker? Ill prolly dabble in blackjack or ultimate hold em
I'll definitely go and look for weak dealers.
I've been told they'll have new electronic machines for table games that do almost everything. The live dealers are just there to push things around, not calculate payouts or decide who wins. There will probably still be some advantage plays, but not like when RWC opened.
by Reducto m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197908#post59197908)
I've been told they'll have new electronic machines for table games that do almost everything. The live dealers are just there to push things around, not calculate payouts or decide who wins. There will probably still be some advantage plays, but not like when RWC opened.
It could be me cuz I’m high, but, what?
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197931#post59197931)
It could be me cuz I’m high, but, what?
You’re a towel. I believe he means the table will follow along and give out winning hands etc. but that the dealer pushes/takes the chips. I don’t know. Maybe I’m a towel too.
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59197931#post59197931)
It could be me cuz I’m high, but, what?
When RWC opened the dealers were awful and would often make mistakes that could be to your benefit. My favorite is one dealer who would pay people out at blackjack if they had a black jack in their hand. I haven't seen them myself, but a pit boss was telling me the tables they'll have in Queens will have tech designed to eliminate these errors. They have sensors that know what chips everyone has bet and what cards are where. It tells the dealer how much to pay each person. I don't know if they will be on every table and if they'll actually do everything they claim, but that's the word. There are probably still ways to take advantage, but they're doing their best to make dealing idiot proof.
by Reducto m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59198487#post59198487)
When RWC opened the dealers were awful and would often make mistakes that could be to your benefit. My favorite is one dealer who would pay people out at blackjack if they had a black jack in their hand.I haven't seen them myself, but a pit boss was telling me the tables they'll have in Queens will have tech designed to eliminate these errors. They have sensors that know what c... See full post
Ahhh gotcha makes sense
Theyre attempting to pass a bill in ny that would ban live betting (betting during a match) If that passes that would be worse than the tax bill that happened last year. What idiot came up with that idea?
bump If they build it, fish will come, and oh will they come. like salmon swimming upstream
Officials have indicated construction on the Van Wyck is near completion, and should be done this year. Will be a huge boon for RWNYC if it's not complete and utter BS, which of course it can't be, NYC DOT has never made empty promises and ran decades long construction projects before...
I dont see that construction having much impact on people going to RW
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59213274#post59213274)
I dont see that construction having much impact on people going to RW
It leads directly to RW, if you're coming from northern or central Queens, northeastern Brooklyn, The Bronx, Westchester, or northern Long Island you would almost definitely be considering the Van Wyck
by Reducto m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59198487#post59198487)
When RWC opened the dealers were awful and would often make mistakes that could be to your benefit.
Dealers in RWC are still awful. As a matter of fact that room is featuring the worst collection of dealers i've ever seen and those dealers are still employed. RW better hire or train some talent or this poker room being in NYC and all, will generate huge number of conflicts and not just with PR personnel. I've heard from many players that considering the location, safety and game security will be a real concern and poker room incompetence shouldn't add to it.
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59213291#post59213291)
It leads directly to RW, if you're coming from northern or central Queens, northeastern Brooklyn, The Bronx, Westchester, or northern Long Island you would almost definitely be considering the Van Wyck
Ahh ok, i keep forgetting people drive
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59213291#post59213291)
It leads directly to RW, if you're coming from northern or central Queens, northeastern Brooklyn, The Bronx, Westchester, or northern Long Island you would almost definitely be considering the Van Wyck
I wouldn't worry too much about Van Wyck construction. Like death and taxes, it will always be there and always be inevitable. The Van Wyck has been under some type of major project for the better part of 28 years going back to when the AirTrain broke ground in 1998, and it won't be stopping anytime soon. There will always be a high amount of congestion in both directions on the Van Wyck from JFK Airport to the Kew Garden Interchange (Grand Central/Jackie Robinson branch-offs) during the hours of 6AM-8PM, to go along with whatever infrastructure changes are taking place. Just drive there when it ISN'T rush hour and you'll be alright - you'll just be in a normal amount of daily NYC traffic.
Good or bad news, when do you think we get the next update? I’d assume the want at least a month of hype promotion once the open date is announced, so if it was early March the next week or two makes sense. Although I think it’s far more likely they were planning end of March, and at the end of February/beginning of March we get the update that it’s not happening until June lol
I also just realized, someone could have applied for the dealer school, and found out that way whether poker is even being considered right now for the initial opening lol
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59217703#post59217703)
Good or bad news, when do you think we get the next update? I’d assume the want at least a month of hype promotion once the open date is announced, so if it was early March the next week or two makes sense. Although I think it’s far more likely they were planning end of March, and at the end of February/beginning of March we get the update that it’s not happen... See full post
December 1 press release (about being recommended to the Gaming Commission) says "For the first phase of the casino, expected to open towards the end of March next year, ..."
https://rwnewyork.com/news/resorts-world-new-york-city-wins-approval-from-nys-gaming-facility-location-board-gflb-to-become-big-apples-first-commercial-casino/ Resorts World New York Resorts World New York City Wins Approval from NYS Gaming Facility Location Board (GFLB) to Become Big Apple’s First Commercial Casino - Resorts World New York (https://rwnewyork.com/news/resorts-world-new-york-city-wins-approval-from-nys-gaming-facility-location-board-gflb-to-become-big-apples-first-commercial-casino/)
And at their FAQ link (from last June, so not necessarily related to current timelines): "Two-hundred and fifty tables and 4,000 slots/ETGs would become operational within six months of receiving a commercial gaming license."
https://rwnewyork.com/about/rws-next-chapter/experience-center/ Resorts World New York Experience Center - Resorts World New York (https://rwnewyork.com/about/rws-next-chapter/experience-center/)
Their lack of anything isn't especially inspiring...are they just coasting on being someplace that already exists? Trying to manage expectations for the first expansion? Just bad at marketing?
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59217706#post59217706)
I also just realized, someone could have applied for the dealer school, and found out that way whether poker is even being considered right now for the initial opening lol
The link is still open, it says the 10 week dealer school is a two introduction followed by 4 weeks of blackjack and then 4 weeks of baccarat.
Ahhh so we’re definitely cooked then lol. Dealer school for blackjack and bacc not finished until end of March, so best bet for those games is some time in April. There’s still roulette, craps and carnival games, even if the start dealer school for that in May they won’t go live until July. Fall 2026 probably the earliest we could possibly get poker
Yea the next round of dealer school begins end of march. You can sign up for the waiting list for that. We kinda had to know black jack and baccarat would come first I think they gotta bring some veteran poker dealers in, at least for the initial rollout. Also it says if you deal at the casino you cant play, so no double dipping
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59218581#post59218581)
Yea the next round of dealer school begins end of march. You can sign up for the waiting list for that. We kinda had to know black jack and baccarat would come first I think they gotta bring some veteran poker dealers in, at least for the initial rollout. Also it says if you deal at the casino you cant play, so no double dipping
Yea I have no interest in dealing more thinking of it as a way to find out info lol. I agree they will/should bring in veteran dealers, but I still think they’ll have to run a dealer school for it before opening so we’re at least waiting for warm weather months :(
https://rwnewyork.com/table-games-dealer-school/?fbclid=PARlRTSAPn3_1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAadSd3hg9egyfA7mnS6263g9lY_l2-GCQ2hrgb5RWV-tIT5pVkrlmNP7ICvnlA_aem_ICgoiFh1jdVAul83BHFUVQ Resorts World New York Table Games Dealer School - Resorts World New York (https://rwnewyork.com/table-games-dealer-school/?fbclid=PARlRTSAPn3_1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAadSd3hg9egyfA7mnS6263g9lY_l2-GCQ2hrgb5RWV-tIT5pVkrlmNP7ICvnlA_aem_ICgoiFh1jdVAul83BHFUVQ)
All the info is here
I can't remember if this has already been discussed, but regarding the 16 hours for the poker room, did we all realize that it currently isn't open 24 hours for VLTs lol?
Anyone here interesting in Mix games 10/20 to 20/40? Much shorter drive than Parx
by Playlive m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59225530#post59225530)
Anyone here interesting in Mix games 10/20 to 20/40? Much shorter drive than Parx
Absolutely. I will help you build these
theres no mix games for 10/20 to 20/40 in parx anyway
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59225824#post59225824)
Absolutely. I will help you build these
Should definitely be doable. MGM National Harbor gets a 20-40 mixed going all the time, as well as your standard PLO5 and limit Big O, would imagine you can easily get a sort of prime Borgata-esque level of Stud too.
by notagain911 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59225860#post59225860)
theres no mix games for 10/20 to 20/40 in parx anyway
Just Big O so any way not to drive there is good. by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59225824#post59225824)
Absolutely. I will help you build these
Kewl I hope the gaming commish allows Dramaha, Archie etc.
Lets see when they even start the poker before we worry about other variants
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59226598#post59226598)
Lets see when they even start the poker before we worry about other variants
lol yeah the NYC hype thread started in May 2021 and it's still a minimum of 6 months, likely nearly a year, before poker starts.
Confirmed poker room wont arrive in NYC until Fall or Winter 2026?
Ive got the over on September 2027....
by Playlive m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59226403#post59226403)
Kewl I hope the gaming commish allows Dramaha, Archie etc.
99% of the time a card room employee says they can't spread a game/stake/format due to gaming, it's just an excuse. Gaming will approve whatever games the room manager compiles the rules for and submits to them. Every game they add means staff needs to be trained on that game. As far as I know, they haven't picked a manager yet so it's really up in the air. If they pick someone from RWC it will likely be the same list of games - Holdem, PLO, Stud/Stud-8, Pineapple. Hopefully they at least add Big O and more stud variants.
by JWoloszyn m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59226869#post59226869)
Ive got the over on September 2027....
I’d take that action but mostly as a matter of maintaining my spirits 🤣
End of 27 would be od
The first training school going to be done soon. Doesnt seem like we are close to poker
Yeah, I'm just curious if we can get them to comment on it, so maybe we could read into their response. As far as I know, they haven't said anything about it since getting the license other then in plans/documents
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59243966#post59243966)
Yeah, I'm just curious if we can get them to comment on it, so maybe we could read into their response. As far as I know, they haven't said anything about it since getting the license other then in plans/documents
Yea been crickets from them, no timeline or expectation on what will be available
New over/under for poker cards in the air at Resorts World: 1/1/27
Ugh. At this point, I think you have to go with the over
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59244500#post59244500)
Ugh. At this point, I think you have to go with the over
We should have kept the $1 doubling year on year
by TheGramuel m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59244712#post59244712)
We should have kept the $1 doubling year on year
You really missed such an excellent opportunity to get rich! My heart weeps in sadness!
Still no news on the start of non-poker table games yet from what I can tell? They've only got 22 days left in March to open as planned, but it seems kind of iffy if they haven't even announced a date yet
Over under March 16.5 we get any kind of update lol?
Probably no update
I wonder if this has any significance to our situation Apparently word on the street in Vegas is that Resorts World is closing their Vegas Poker Room
While thats not necessarily good i dont see how a city that has a ton of options vs being the only legal game in town for years is really comparable
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59255516#post59255516)
While thats not necessarily good i dont see how a city that has a ton of options vs being the only legal game in town for years is really comparable
only legal game in town for a few years in a starving casino market is a recipe to just make as much as possible with table games and slots before the market matures a little and you have competition.
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59252331#post59252331)
Still no news on the start of non-poker table games yet from what I can tell? They've only got 22 days left in March to open as planned, but it seems kind of iffy if they haven't even announced a date yet
Seems like "as early as March" was just a tasty nugget to toss into the commission deliberations, rather than something they actually could/would do. Maybe they figure they're going to be the only local games for a good long time so there's no need to rush. (And really, would we prefer that they half-assed it just to get something going sooner?)
by sirpupnyc m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59255598#post59255598)
Seems like "as early as March" was just a tasty nugget to toss into the commission deliberations, rather than something they actually could/would do. Maybe they figure they're going to be the only local games for a good long time so there's no need to rush. (And really, would we prefer that they half-assed it just to get something going sooner?)
They actually only claimed March after they got the license, all the application documents said June. Regardless, it does seem like March was just a hype builder, and having no intentions of actually doing it this would also explain the lack of hype building promotion so far. March may have just been a potential date if everything went right, and that never happens. They’re probably assessing where they’re at with the first dealer school finished, how many previously trained dealers they need to hire, etc
curious if a shutdown of their LV room is a positive sign for us could be that they are cleaning house to bring some of the people over
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59255665#post59255665)
They actually only claimed March after they got the license, all the application documents said June.
Ah, I didn't remember that was the timing!
by Alpha Fish m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59255695#post59255695)
curious if a shutdown of their LV room is a positive sign for us could be that they are cleaning house to bring some of the people over
I was wondering the same. Or even just the physical elements of the poker room, the tables, chips, chairs, etc. Maybe they decided they were dead in the water and wanted to redeploy those materials elsewhere Or they don't give two s**** about poker and we're screwed [emoji2357]
Laziness and an unwillingness to include poker would be the only reason they dont eventually put poker The table game argument about what makes more is kinda null and void because they have more than enough space for everything. That casino is the size of a mall
With all that said im guessing poker (against others not table game) is not the highest priority for RW
by Alpha Fish m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59255695#post59255695)
curious if a shutdown of their LV room is a positive sign for us could be that they are cleaning house to bring some of the people over
Doubtful, who would leave LV for NY? I think their mindset is to be cautious with poker so its not a negative on the balance sheet.
idk, like the guy who used to be a poker room director at the Wynn, came to Encore Boston, then went back to run RW LV for a bit? or their last (currently on hiatus it seems) poker room director? seriously doubt it's going to be some new hire who they've never worked with
by Playlive m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59256243#post59256243)
Doubtful, who would leave LV for NY?
lol what does this mean
by TheGramuel m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59256484#post59256484)
lol what does this mean
A $1 toke in lv goes a lot farther than in NYC?
by vandito m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59256496#post59256496)
A $1 toke in lv goes a lot farther than in NYC?
Yeah obviously but there's a reason why people who live in NYC who have an option choose to still live there. I'd wager there are a LOT of people who would leave LV for NYC.
by TheGramuel m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59256517#post59256517)
Yeah obviously but there's a reason why people who live in NYC who have an option choose to still live there. I'd wager there are a LOT of people who would leave LV for NYC.
I mean, I agree that most Vegas people could not hack it in NYC
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59256597#post59256597)
I mean, I agree that most Vegas people could not hack it in NYC
lol it's exactly this sort of attitude that makes a lot of people not like it there it isn't a case of "hacking it" like it's some sort of achievement to live there lololol
I think some workers would be excited at the opportunity to move to NYC, especially if they've been in Vegas for a bit and have grown somewhat tired of it.
With the rent and living expenses in nyc i dont think theyre flying out vegas dealers, at least not for the long term
In would be really infuriating if they just punt poker completely for a while, and I dont even ****ing live there any more. I will for sure degen in the pits a bit next trip lol
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59256797#post59256797)
With the rent and living expenses in nyc i dont think theyre flying out vegas dealers, at least not for the long term
They could have dealer houses, 4 roommates and instead of 2 months 2 million, it could be 2 months 2 thousand!
by TheGramuel m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59256740#post59256740)
lol it's exactly this sort of attitude that makes a lot of people not like it there it isn't a case of "hacking it" like it's some sort of achievement to live there lololol
Just saw an ad on IG saying come to our dealer school in the grand lobby march 23-26th from 10am-6pm. And if youre good earn between 21-24 dollars an hour. Based on that information june/july prolly the earliest any table games come to fruition
what if you're merely mediocre?
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59264296#post59264296)
what if you're merely mediocre?
Then no job lol
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59264242#post59264242)
Just saw an ad on IG saying come to our dealer school in the grand lobby march 23-26th from 10am-6pm. And if youre good earn between 21-24 dollars an hour. Based on that information june/july prolly the earliest any table games come to fruition
I think they did an earlier round of deal hiring/dealer school
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59264445#post59264445)
I think they did an earlier round of deal hiring/dealer school
Yea this is probably the bigger round being that they have a 4 day open house for this
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59264443#post59264443)
Then no job lol
Maybe you get to work at the food court then? Setting new poker cards in the air over/under at 4/1/27.
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59264591#post59264591)
Maybe you get to work at the food court then? Setting new poker cards in the air over/under at 4/1/27.
I’d still take under that for both table games and poker. Still think we see table games by summer
It's nice to see you guys so bullish. I was thinking we'd be lucky to get it before next summer. Sucks to be so close, but so far away!
a buddy of mine knows a contractor who works there, according to him all plaster and major construction work is finished, wrapping up electrical and laying down carpet atm allegedly they are working crazy ot hours trying to finish it asap think there's a good chance they'll have some table games up and running within a month or so no word on poker
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59264591#post59264591)
Maybe you get to work at the food court then? Setting new poker cards in the air over/under at 4/1/27.
They probably already got ppl for that And 4/1 next year seems like a long time. Im guessing june/july for table games minimum. If we are lucky both. But wait times for poker will prolly be crazy
Dilly and I found a dude on Reddit looking for housing who did the dealer training school who says they are targeting end of April, but not sure yet on when poker will happen. Not by end of April, certainly, though He did say they are going to have a poker room, for whatever that is worth
I was at Turning Stone during their WSOP and was there again this week. During WSOP, I had a conversation with one of their dealers, a veteran dealer with two decades of experience and who knows dealers and managers in every east coast poker room north of DC. He told me that NO ONE working any poker room within 3.5 hours of RWNYC has heard about any posts for dealer school, nor has anyone been approached to come deal poker there. Then today, he was dealing a down at my table where player in seat 2 accurately mentioned how RW does not take poker seriously vis a vis closing their Vegas room, and the absolute joke of a “room” they have at RW Catskills. Player to his left in seat 3 chimes in with, “maybe RWNYC doesn’t want to cannibalize the poker crowd at Catskills and that’s why they aren’t doing poker yet for the NYC expansion.” Talk about backing yourself into a correct answer! Seven tables running at this exact moment at RW Catskills on a Friday night, so to that I say, “what poker crowd?” Haha. I still say we will be waiting quite a while for poker, and even when it comes to RWNYC, it will be given limited thought, consideration, and attention, and will be disappointing to all of us in the poker community. Write this one off people, and hope that Uncle Stevie and his friends from Hard Rock can replicate the size, quality, and type of room they have at HR Hollywood or HR Tampa once the Citi Field project happens.
Long term hard rock will probably have the best poker room But for now i see them opening this room by the end of2026 if i had to guess
Call me crazy, but I’m still relatively optimistic on timing for RW, and I think they have a fairly good chance of being the best room in the area. Hard Rock loves poker but 30 tables is wack, and 40-50 at Ballys isn’t much better. I still think it might be in the cards for us to see a 100 table room at RW
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59268498#post59268498)
Call me crazy, but I’m still relatively optimistic on timing for RW, and I think they have a fairly good chance of being the best room in the area. Hard Rock loves poker but 30 tables is wack, and 40-50 at Ballys isn’t much better. I still think it might be in the cards for us to see a 100 table room at RW
Dilly I’m sorry, but while you are 100% entitled to your own opinion and wishes, and while I hope it will come soon and come hard, this idea of 100 tables is 100% delusional thinking. There will be, at best, a 20 table room at RW, when they get around to it, and they aren’t getting around to it for quite a while. You might need to prepare yourself to hear about poker in another new venue before you get what you want from RWNYC. Until then, gotta keep commuting to Philly/AC/CT, or, give your business to the (read this sarcastically please) “amazing and stable” poker room RW Catskills already runs.
I dont believe 20 tables
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59268655#post59268655)
Dilly I’m sorry, but while you are 100% entitled to your own opinion and wishes, and while I hope it will come soon and come hard, this idea of 100 tables is 100% delusional thinking. There will be, at best, a 20 table room at RW, when they get around to it, and they aren’t getting around to it for quite a while. You might need to prepare yourself to hear about poker in anoth... See full post
He may have been overly optimistic, but 20 tables is overly pessimistic
by DanHollywood m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59268655#post59268655)
Dilly I’m sorry, but while you are 100% entitled to your own opinion and wishes, and while I hope it will come soon and come hard, this idea of 100 tables is 100% delusional thinking. There will be, at best, a 20 table room at RW, when they get around to it, and they aren’t getting around to it for quite a while. You might need to prepare yourself to hear about poker in anoth... See full post
I would lay a pretty significant bet for 30+ tables, and only a slightly smaller bet for 50+. I don’t agree with your analysis of the available information
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59268712#post59268712)
He may have been overly optimistic, but 20 tables is overly pessimistic
20 is wylin lol
March done and officially nothing yet
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59268712#post59268712)
He may have been overly optimistic, but 20 tables is overly pessimistic
There are 22 at Rivers in Chicago and the waitlists can be long there. 20 in NYC would be a disaster. There are 52 I think at MGM National Harbor and there the wait lists aren't crazy but they are there the relevant metro area is, what, 1/5th (?) what NYC's is (factoring in MD Live is an option, and Jersey people will likely go to Parx etc still).
new over/under for poker's first cards in the air: June 21st.
Over June 21 for poker with near certainty lol. And yeah 20 tables is absurd, besides looking at Borgata and Parx as a benchmark and adjusting given the market and that the overall casino is going to have more than twice as many games as Borgata, it just seems so unlikely hard rock announces 30, Ballys 40, and resorts world would go less as the biggest of the three overall. What could happen is a small temporary room until a new part of the casino is built, and that temp room could be 20 tables. What could happen that would be worse is they just wait on poker until they have a new space built and that means we’re lucky if we get early 2028 poker lol
Yea the real over/under should be jan1 2027. I agree i could see a temp room being 20 tables. But a solid complete room no way. Also it would bea nightmare if poker becomes backburner and doesn’t happen til 2028+
I am visiting end of June (I'm also there in 2 weeks but no chance), if by some miracle there is poker by then I will definitely try to play and will "happily" wait donking off money at table games while I do. I don't see it though, I saw how long it took Rivers in Chicago to get going even when they announced it, this is going to be way worse. Over even on Jan 1 2027 imo.
Yeah, I think maybe later this year, if at all. I think we'd be lucky if there's poker before Labor Day but I was also thinking what Dilly was, that we'd get some kind of smaller temp room while they build out of a bigger space I forsee about 40-50 tables. Also remember, just because these casinos say 30, 40, 50, etc, they can always adjust to do more of less
The way they been radio silent about things got me believing the over on jan 1 2027 too. I will say this though, i dont think it will be much over, prolly the ball will get rolling around then for poker.
So on nycasinos.ny.gov there’s a final report and findings document that I hadn’t read yet. And within those 400 something pages, I couldn’t help but notice that it mentions a poker room….with 13 tables. It also mentions they are still potentially going to have 800 tables eventually. 800, and 13 for poker. This can’t be real lol
13 is actually hilarious enough that I think there's a bigger chance of that rather than 20
Lol 13….. if that somehow happens GGs
1 table for each stake 1/3, 2/5, 5/10 and the rest for plo and limit games wait list is 150 deep my body is ready
Dudes could prolly resell seats if its that few lol
If they open 13 tables, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the smallest games are 2/5 NL and 5/5 PLO
13 tables would be a mess
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59272912#post59272912)
Dudes could prolly resell seats if its that few lol
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someone on Reddit said they called RW and that they're opening up their poker room April 28th. Someone was suspicious, and the guy replied that "You can call if you want. 😀"
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59277369#post59277369)
someone on Reddit said they called RW and that they're opening up their poker room April 28th. Someone was suspicious, and the guy replied that "You can call if you want. 😀"
I saw that too, I am still sceptical - 4 weeks from today they'll have a room opening and they've done zero to market it...... No obviously I'm not going to call, 1) it's more fun to bitch and moan on the internet, 2) I don't live there and 3) I'm waaaaaaay too English to actually call someone and ask something about anything. Calling a restaurant is hard enough.
by TheGramuel m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59277431#post59277431)
I saw that too, I am still sceptical - 4 weeks from today they'll have a room opening and they've done zero to market it...... No obviously I'm not going to call, 1) it's more fun to bitch and moan on the internet, 2) I don't live there and 3) I'm waaaaaaay too English to actually call someone and ask something about anything. Calling a restaurant is hard enough.
You could UberEats or use GrubHub.
Every prospective dealer sign a nda or something? You’d think someone would come on here and say yea i finished training for poker or something
I just summoned up all of my courage to pick up the phone and call, reddit poster is full of it lol. "No updates on any new openings for slots, table games, or poker at this time. Hopefully more info will be available towards end of the month." I think June/July is still the reasonable assumption for new slots, blackjack, and baccarat. Very likely roulette, craps, and other carnival games are in the mix as well. Less likely but still possible poker is involved, but it would probably be the silly 13 tables total if it opens with everything else. I haven't seen any posts from new dealers but I've seen a few things on IG and Reddit from people claiming to be involved in the construction/remodeling that are saying soon, but likely they're at least partially full of it.
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59278111#post59278111)
I just summoned up all of my courage to pick up the phone and call, reddit poster is full of it lol. "No updates on any new openings for slots, table games, or poker at this time. Hopefully more info will be available towards end of the month."I think June/July is still the reasonable assumption for new slots, blackjack, and baccarat. Very likely roulette, craps, and other carn... See full post
To some people 6 months is “soon” We want poker yesterday. But it seems too hush for poker. BJ and baccarat I believe could launch end of april/may. I hope im wrong and everything opens soon
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59277458#post59277458)
You could UberEats or use GrubHub.
Yes obviously or Resy or Tock or Opentable. Livesavers.
I emailed RW asking about poker room, etc. on the 7th, auto-reply said I would get a reply within 72 hours. I am yet to receive a reply.
Its one of those wait and see situations. They aint giving out no info about it
by All-inMcLovin m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59280363#post59280363)
I emailed RW asking about poker room, etc. on the 7th, auto-reply said I would get a reply within 72 hours. I am yet to receive a reply.
Sorry sir, this is a Wendy's... in 72 hrs
by HomeStar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59281099#post59281099)
Sorry sir, this is a Wendy's... in 72 hrs
I don't think I'll ever get a reply.
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And I really wanted that baked potato and frosty too.
Update: or lack thereof , no email reply lol.
93k salary for a dealer seems high
by big_slick m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59282414#post59282414)
https://www.reddit.com/r/TableGameDealer... (https://www.reddit.com/r/TableGameDealer/comments/1rx3xiu/resorts_world_nyc_hiring_dealers_floor_managers/ofajf8x/) Poker in 2027
In another post this user claimed that the grand opening would be in June but they’re hoping to open the main room on 4/27 ….with 800 tables right off the rip. He’s almost certainly full of **** about that, hopefully he’s full of **** about poker not being until 2027 lol
He is a legit recruiter for RW based on LinkedIn so we may just be cooked till 2027 lol
by Dilly_ m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59282513#post59282513)
In another post this user claimed that the grand opening would be in June but they’re hoping to open the main room on 4/27 ….with 800 tables right off the rip. He’s almost certainly full of **** about that, hopefully he’s full of **** about poker not being until 2027 lol
His post history shows one he made 4 years ago titled "homeless in NYC". Interesting Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk
Even if early 2027 is true its not too horrible
by WhiteJesus m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=59282576#post59282576)
Even if early 2027 is true its not too horrible
Unless it’s 13 tables in beginning of 2027 lol
Lol if we waiting 6+ months over 13 tables would be nice