Stackoffski vs Stackoffski

Stackoffski vs Stackoffski

It's time I start a new challenge for myself because I find myself slacking off a bit when it comes to expectations for the future. I need to have a new goal in poker, which hopefully is just an in-between goal, but for now the only one.

I am starting a new bankroll challenge and a this new blog with it. The time for the old Stackoffski is over. The end-result of my previous blog was that I am a recovering big calling station without realizing it. And it turns out my name suits me well! I am stacking off all those stacks to y'all ... be blessed with them!

I come to realize my biggest contestant is myself really. The flaws in my game are what I can change. I can't change what my opponents do, but if I can change flaws in my game, I can become a winning player. But I do need to change.

So hereby I challenge myself to change my own cashgame-game and make $2000 out of $400 with mainly cashgames.

At first I wanted to only let in-game earnings count, but that would be counter-productive when some side-money can make me jump in stakes sooner. There are more goals to set hereafter. Maybe I bank an mtt, which I do play on the side sometimes with that side-money ... if that money can make me jump in stakes it would be stupid not to take it if I think I am ready ...

Bankroll-rules are:

Play a stake until bankroll is 40 buyins + 5 buyins for the next stake. Then take a 5 buyin shot at the next stake. Step back again when 40 buyins for the previous stake.

Today I start this challenge with $400!

Link to previous blog: here (https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=546195).

100K hands at nl$2, nl$5, and nl$10 this year (from march and april):

Hope this time you don't stack off! Improve your pot constructing abilities so you don't get too committed. I think folding more is +EV at the micros.

Wish you luck

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Originally posted by Gurofox

Hope this time you don't stack off! Improve your pot constructing abilities so you don't get too committed. I think folding more is +EV at the micros.

Wish you luck

Thanks man! I did no think it was about commitment because I like to think there is no such thing as pot-commitment, but I think you might be right!

I am not your typical calling station I forgot to mention ... I am also a raising and betting station. Probably other players think I never fold postflop, I did not look at myself like that.

Originally posted by Untiltable

Just one note from the end of the last blog: I don't think you can draw conclusions from the graph after filtering post flop calls only. You're basically just looking at medium strength hands there, so of course you can't be winning a lot when all you have is bluffcatchers.

Also the graph won't take into account pot odds. If you're facing a small river bet and have the odds to call and win often enough to make it profitable (but nowhere near 50% of the time), the graph will still go down despite the +ev call because you're usually losing the pot.

So I wouldn't feel bad about that graph, I'd assume with that filter it's losing for everyone. Probably best to just focus on the unfiltered graph so you don't end up fixing things that aren't necessarily broken. Or hit YouTube for database analysis videos that help you spot and fix some leaks.

Good luck with the new challenge!

Thanks a lot for focused reading!

I think I have to contradict with my own thinking (which is all I have) though, which goes like this:

My bluffcatchers should be at least breaking-even, no? If not, I bluff-catch too often because too often I am up against a better hand.

About the pot odds-issue: The way I see it :they might look right, but if I am losing by calling apparently they where not and I should have folded (but I understand, how can you still fold because the pot odds look right)

So that leads me to still give meaning to the graph. I call too often. But of course I have to call sometimes, now I have to find out when to fold and when not, which might be more difficult in practice then it looks now.

Maybe I am being a dumbass, that could very well be, sometimes it's the case

Thanks for support and the best of luck to you too!

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Ah yes, I am not isolating the calls, so the graph is really not representing true losses from calls. I did not think that, but I did think it went down very rapidly, and since I am winning with bets and raises, I thought it must be the calls. Otherwise I am still not winning enough with bets and raises to make up for the blinds. But I can't take a look at it in detail because indeed the actions and their immediate results are not isolated.

Also I just think I am not ahead often enough with some of my rivercalls. I should fold more often when in doubt with a bluffcatcher (hands that turned into bluffcatchers because of the board for example).

€354 = $400

Originally posted by Stackoffski

Thanks man! I did no think it was about commitment because I like to think there is no such thing as pot-commitment, but I think you might be right!

I am not your typical calling station I forgot to mention ... I am also a raising and betting station. Probably other players think I never fold postflop, I did not look at myself like that.

Now you have to take SPR (stack-to-pot-ratio) in mind when playing, so yes pot commitment is a thing. I know you are not the typical cs because I used to be the same as you having the same problems, playing really good pre flop and flop, the trouble started at turn/river when facing action from people. Took me many loses and time to learn how to fold top hands like doubles and sets, nowadays is easy to fold that kind of hands at given board textures with good player reads.

I guess that fixing your later streets game will make you rich, you have everything to succeed!

Hi, Stackoffski

I'm not at playing-level that I could discuss but I want to say just one thing....

Good luck on your new journey!

Originally posted by Gurofox

...the trouble started at turn/river when facing action from people. Took me many loses and time to learn how to fold top hands like doubles and sets, nowadays is easy to fold that kind of hands at given board textures with good player reads.

Yes those hands are big pots, and they always seem to have it. I think even more so at rush poker. Yet I make the call.

Today again I stacked off with a set of 6's when I was pretty sure he had a set of aces because he checked the flop as preflop raiser but reraised me on the turn. Flop was A93 or something, and I turn a 6. He was really letting me know I have the nuts here and not afraid of any hand. Now that might be an extreme example, there are easier folds to find and I did good today for the most part. Only played 1K hands so far, but I'm taking it easy.

Also, if I lose 10 buyins or sooner I will play nl$5 although I still have $300.

Originally posted by VisionBoard

Hi, Stackoffski

I'm not at playing-level that I could discuss but I want to say just one thing....

Good luck on your new journey!

Hi Visionboard, and many thanks! Hope you are doing well!

First hands

Played 2K hands yesterday. Broke even EV, but with so many coolers where I was behind, it's a wonder I still broke even. A lot of big hands vs big hands. I got 3 stacks for the ThanksGG daily flipout because of the bad beats and won $18.85. so I'm up even though:

I am very happy with my play. Starting to make those tough folds and some lesser tough folds!! Well done!

Started a new database as well (I can combine later on). Here's the graph for now:

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I'll keep including the blue and red lines to see where they go!

Originally posted by Stackoffski

Week 1

Challenge: $400 to $2K

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Bankroll start: $400

Bankroll end: $465.03

Weekly Profit: +$65.03

Total Profit: +$65.03

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+5727 cashgame hands (+$50.10), 5727 hands total (+$50.10).

Other: +$14.97

Still very happy with my play! I made 1 big mistake for as far as I can remember, and making some tough folds with strong hands where I think they got the goods. And also some weaker hand-folds in smaller pots. Although volume-wise, I am not playing nearly as much as before. Hopefully from next week I will be able to pick that up again...

I hope this is the reason that the blue line is rising now, but we have to wait for more hands and see! I hope the red line will stay around break-even point, but I'm not doing anything to influence the red line, only the blue one. So I am folding and checking more often. Not making as thin valuebets. Making it to the showdown more often.

I appear to be playing these average stats:

Graph:

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Luck bell curve:

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10K Hands

... some more hands ...

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I took a look at rush nl$25, just to see what that is like, bet amounts, etc, and because I had the shot-taking amount of $525+. I played 200 hands and lost $20. Not taking a real shot until I feel comfortable with that or get lucky during one of my peeks if there will be more. But for now back at nl$10 for a while. Start to feel good there, but I am in an upswing. Hopefully lifetime-upswing!

BR = $517

Good luck, man. Your graph looks solid, as well as your redline, I'll definitely be following.

Originally posted by wkretchi

Good luck, man. Your graph looks solid, as well as your redline, I'll definitely be following.

Thanks wkretchi!

Played 41K hands total now at nl$10 (also from before the bankroll challenge), and still breaking even EV:

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Still running into some postflop bad luck (which, oddly, keeps my hopes up):

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(the sets and flushes overlap).

I also put in roughly 1K hands at nl$25:

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Won't be doing that again for a while... I may even drop back to nl$5 because I want to test a few things (mainly being more aggressive preflop), informed by these figures from the 41K sample:

Bankroll = $493

Originally posted by Stackoffski

Week 2

Challenge: $400 to $2K

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Bankroll start: $465.03

Bankroll end: $488.94

Weekly Profit: +$23.91

Total Profit: +$88.94

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+8120 cashgame hands (+$23.91), 13847 hands total (+$74.01).

Other: +$0

Hey, Stackoffski

Keep playing and enjoy together

Originally posted by VisionBoard

Hey, Stackoffski

Keep playing and enjoy together

Yes, not playing as many hands anymore hopefully soon ... I read you got some variance as well ... keep it up too! You were doing very well.

Came near a few times now, but haven't reached final tables yet. I’ve played only a handful of cash-game hands and several MTTs since the last update...

BR = $492

Originally posted by Stackoffski

...Got close a few times now, but no final tables yet...

Well, now I did:

This is very very very nice

BR = $922

Almost made it again in that same tournament, but fell short in the next one...

I’ll likely play more (hyper) MTTs during the World Festival at gg, and not as many cash games.

Wow! Great run, Stackoffski

$5 Bounty Builder? I've never taken 1st place at BB, KO is tougher for me.

Originally posted by Stackoffski

Week 3

Challenge: $400 to $2K

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Bankroll start: $488.94

Bankroll end: $956.21

Weekly Profit: +$467.27

Total Profit: +$556.21

Cashgames:

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Another close one again ...

Some nice large field hypers with the world festival. Most festival don't feature that much hypers or none at all, so certainly going to play a few with the possibility of making a bigger score! I have high expectations.

Am I turning back to mtts? I don't know, let's say I just play holdem and play whatever format I feel like playing at the time.

Tried some 1-tabling normal $25nl cashgame tables. Probably will follow everyone's advice and play normal cashgame tables instead of the fastfold ones. I think I could play 3 or 4 simultaneously. I'll be moving up to $25nl then though. My br now is $960.

... turns out I only played 1500 hands at normal cashgame tables at GG. And GG is about the only platform I've been ably to play at for ages.

I didn't post the mtt graph accompanying this blog yet:

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Almost no more cashgame hands ...

Well I tried some normal tables again, but it did not went well. I played 3 tables, but man you need some patience with that compared to 2 fast tables. I really can't play 6 tables comfortably anymore, and then you have the problem of getting hands on all tables at once, while in fastfold you can just pause the other tables. Something I do regularly while I'm in a (big) hand. Just pause the other tables.

I basically got butchered because of my lack of patience. They deserved it!

Luckily I won the losses back later on with fast tables!

$25nl graph until now:

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Bankroll = $960

Running good at $25nl fast tables ... almost got the 40 buyins to be officially playing that limit...

$25nl fast graph:

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Luck bell curve, been lucky:

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Wow! Very nice run Stackoffski

I'm glad you left NL2, that place was a disaster, honestly

Originally posted by VisionBoard

Wow! Very nice run Stackoffski

Well, I lost some after that ... too bad

Originally posted by taavi1337

im happy that you left nl2, that was a wreck man

I'm happy too for that Although nl$25 might be too high for now, money goes fast.

Originally posted by Stackoffski

Week 4

Challenge: $400 to $2K

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Bankroll start: $956.21

Bankroll end: $902.13

Weekly Profit: -$54.08

Total Profit: +$502.13

Cash graph:

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MTT graph:

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Originally posted by Stackoffski

Week 5

Challenge: $400 to $2K

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Bankroll start: $902.13

Bankroll end: $559.30

Weekly Profit: -$151.01

Cashout: -$191.82

Total Profit: +$159.30

I only played MTTs this week, and I didn't add any cashgame hands. I also made a withdrawal.

MTT graph:

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I withdrew a bit more cash, so the bankroll is now $1000.

Originally posted by Stackoffski

Week 6

Challenge: $400 to $2K

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Starting bankroll: $559.30

Ending bankroll: $1075.75

Weekly profit: $516.45

(Cashout: -$543.85)

Overall profit: +$675.75

Cash game graph (Still unchanged since as 2 weeks ago I believe; I didn't play cash games):

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MTT graph:

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Ole!