The NHL Thread

For the 5 of us who post NHL stuff, here you go. Officially the season starts Tuesday October 11, although there were two games that counted played in the Czech Republic last week (Predators are 2-0-0, lolSharks 0-0-2). So here we go.... DEFENDING CHAMPS: Colorado Avalanche

This stat greatly aided their Stanley Cup victory and I'm sure all of the penalties called on their opponents were legit and not due to diving: The Colorado Avalanche had the most power plays per game by a team in 2021-22, with 3.40 opportunities.*Source: Statmuse.com

Odds to win 2022-2023 Stanley Cup Odds to Win Stanley Cup 2023 Team Stanley Cup Odds Colorado Avalanche +450 Carolina Hurricanes +1000 Toronto Maple Leafs +1000 Florida Panthers +1100 Tampa Bay Lightning +1200 Edmonton Oilers +1500 Calgary Flames +1600 Minnesota Wild +1800 New York Rangers +1800 Pittsburgh Penguins +1900 Vegas Golden Knights +1900 Boston Bruins +2800 St. Louis Blues +3000 New York Islanders +3000 Los Angeles Kings +3300 Washington Capitals +4000 Nashville Predators +4000 Dallas Stars +4700 Detroit Red Wings +5000 Vancouver Canucks +5000 Ottawa Senators +5000 Winnipeg Jets +6000 New Jersey Devils +6500 Columbus Blue Jackets +7500 Anaheim Ducks +7500 Philadelphia Flyers +8500 Buffalo Sabres +10000 Montreal Canadiens +10000 San Jose Sharks +10000 Seattle Kraken +10000 Chicago Blackhawks +20000 Arizona Coyotes +30000 *Source: Fanduel.com as of 10/7/22

Team Additions & Subtractions of Note (*Source: ESPN.com):

1. Colorado Avalanche Last season: 56-19-7 (119 points), won Stanley Cup Key players added: D Brad Hunt, G Alexandar Georgiev, F Evan Rodrigues, F Lukas Sedlak Key players lost: F Nicolas Aube-Kubel, F Andre Burakovsky, F Nazem Kadri, G Darcy Kuemper, D Jack Johnson, D Ryan Murray, F Nico Sturm

2. Carolina Hurricanes Last season: 54-20-8 (116 points), lost in second round Key players added: LW Max Pacioretty (NOTE: on IR until 2023), D Brent Burns, RW Ondrej Kase, D Dylan Coghlan Key players lost: D Tony DeAngelo, F Steven Lorentz, C Vincent Trocheck, C Max Domi, D Ian Cole, Brendan Smith

3. Edmonton Oilers Last season: 49-27-6 (104 points), lost in Western Conference finals Key players added: G Jack Campbell, F Mattias Janmark, D Ryan Murray Key players lost: F Josh Archibald, G Mikko Koskinen, F Zack Kassian, D Duncan Keith

4. Florida Panthers Last season: 58-18-6 (122 points), lost in second round Key players added: C Nick Cousins, D Marc Staal, F Matthew Tkachuk, C Colin White Key players lost: D Ben Chiarot, C Claude Giroux, F Jonathan Huberdeau, LW Mason Marchment

5. New York Rangers Last season: 52-24-6 (110 points), lost in Eastern Conference finals Key players added: F Vincent Trocheck, C Ryan Carpenter, G Jaroslav Halak Key players lost: C Ryan Strome, F Andrew Copp, F Frank Vatrano, F Kevin Rooney, D Justin Braun, D Patrik Nemeth, G Alexandar Georgiev

6. Toronto Maple Leafs Last season: 54-21-7 (115 points), lost in first round Key players added: RW Nicolas Aube-Kubel, D Jordie Benn, C Calle Jarnkrok, D Victor Mete, G Matt Murray, G Ilya Samsonov Key players lost: C Colin Blackwell, G Jack Campbell, RW Ondrej Kase, D Ilya Lyubushkin, RW Ilya Mikheyev, G Petr Mrazek

7. Tampa Bay Lightning Last season: 51-23-8 (110 points), lost in Stanley Cup Final Key players added: D Ian Cole, C Vladislav Namestnikov Key players lost: D Ryan McDonagh, LW Ondrej Palat, D Jan Rutta

8. Calgary Flames Last season: 50-21-11 (111 points), lost in second round Key players added: F Jonathan Huberdeau, F Nazem Kadri, F Sonny Milano, F Kevin Rooney, D MacKenzie Weegar Key players lost: F Johnny Gaudreau, D Erik Gudbranson, F Calle Jarnkrok, F Sean Monahan, F Matthew Tkachuk

9. Minnesota Wild Last season: 53-22-7 (113 points), lost in first round Key players added: G Filip Gustavsson, F Nic Petan, F Sam Steel, D Andrej Sustr Key players lost: F Nick Bjugstad, D Dmitry Kulikov, F Kevin Fiala, G Cam Talbot

10. St. Louis Blues Last season: 49-22-11 (109 points), lost in second round Key players added: F Noel Acciari, G Thomas Greiss Key players lost: F Tyler Bozak, G Ville Husso, F David Perron

11. Pittsburgh Penguins Last season: 46-25-11 (103 points), lost in first round Key players added: F Ryan Poehling, F Josh Archibald, D Jeff Petry, D Jan Rutta, D Ty Smith Key players lost: F Danton Heinen, D Mike Matheson, D John Marino

12. Dallas Stars Last season: 46-30-6 (98 points), lost in first round Key players added: D Will Butcher, F Mason Marchment, D Colin Miller Key players lost: G Braden Holtby, D John Klingberg, F Vladislav Namestnikov, F Alexander Radulov

13. Washington Capitals Last season: 44-26-12 (100 points), lost in first round Key players added: F Connor Brown, C Dylan Strome, LW Henrik Borgstrom, D Erik Gustafsson, G Darcy Kuemper, G Charlie Lindgren Key players lost: D Justin Schultz, G Ilya Samsonov, G Vitek Vanecek

14. Boston Bruins Last season: 51-26-5 (107 points), lost in first round Key players added: F David Krejci, C Pavel Zacha Key players lost: D Josh Brown, C Erik Haula, C Curtis Lazar

15. Vegas Golden Knights Last season: 43-31-8 (94 points), missed playoffs Key players added: G Adin Hill, F Phil Kessel Key players lost: D Dylan Coghlan, F Evgenii Dadonov, F Mattias Janmark, F Max Pacioretty. NOTE: G Robin Lehner is out for the season.

16. Nashville Predators Last season: 45-30-7 (97 points), lost in first round Key players added: F John Leonard, G Kevin Lankinen, D Ryan McDonagh, F Nino Niederreiter, F Zach Sanford Key players lost: D Matt Benning, F Nick Cousins, F Luke Kunin, D Philippe Myers, G David Rittich

17. New York Islanders Last season: 37-35-10 (84 points), missed playoffs Key players added: D Alexander Romanov Key players lost: D Zdeno Chara, D Andy Greene

18. Los Angeles Kings Last season: 44-27-11 (99 points), lost in first round Key players added: F Kevin Fiala Key players lost: F Andreas Athanasiou, F Dustin Brown, D Olli Maatta, D Troy Stecher

19. Ottawa Senators Last season: 33-42-7 (73 points), missed playoffs Key players added: LW Alex DeBrincat, C Claude Giroux, G Cam Talbot Key players lost: RW Connor Brown, G Matt Murray

20. Vancouver Canucks Last season: 40-30-12 (92 points), missed playoffs Key players added: F Andrei Kuzmenko, F Curtis Lazar, F Ilya Mikheyev Key players lost: F Alex Chiasson, G Jaroslav Halak, D Brad Hunt, F Nicolas Petan, F Brandon Sutter

21. Detroit Red Wings Last season: 32-40-10 (74 points), missed playoffs Key players added: D Ben Chiarot, C Andrew Copp, G Ville Husso, LW Dominik Kubalik, LW David Perron, D Olli Maatta Key players lost: G Thomas Greiss, G Calvin Pickard, D Marc Staal

22. Winnipeg Jets Last season: 39-32-11 (89 points), missed playoffs Key players added: D Kyle Capobianco, F Sam Gagner, G David Rittich Key players lost: G Eric Comrie, F Zach Sanford, F Paul Stastny

23. Columbus Blue Jackets Last season: 37-38-7 (81 points), missed playoffs Key players added: LW Johnny Gaudreau, D Erik Gudbranson, D David Jiricek, D Denton Mateychuk Key players lost: None

24. New Jersey Devils Last season: 27-46-9 (63 points), missed playoffs Key players added: G Vitek Vanecek, F Ondrej Palat, D John Marino, D Brendan Smith, D Simon Nemec Key players lost: C Pavel Zacha, D Ty Smith, D P.K. Subban

25. Anaheim Ducks Last season: 31-37-14 (76 points), missed playoffs Key players added: D John Klingberg, D Dmitry Kulikov, F Ryan Strome, F Frank Vatrano Key players lost: F Zach Aston-Reese, F Ryan Getzlaf, F Sonny Milano, F Sam Steel, D Andrej Sustr

26. Buffalo Sabres Last season: 32-39-11 (75 points), missed playoffs Key players added: G Craig Anderson, G Eric Comrie, D Ilya Lyubushkin Key players lost: D Colin Miller, D Mark Pysyk

27. San Jose Sharks Last season: 32-37-13 (77 points), missed playoffs Key players added: D Matt Benning, F Luke Kunin, F Oskar Lindblom, D Markus Nutivaara, F Nico Sturm Key players lost: F Rudolf Balcers, D Brent Burns, F Jonathan Dahlen, G Adin Hill

28. Seattle Kraken Last season: 27-49-6 (60 points), missed playoffs Key players added: F Oliver Bjorkstrand, F Andre Burakovsky, G Martin Jones, D Michal Kempny, D Justin Schultz Key players lost: D Haydn Fleury, F Riley Sheahan, F Victor Rask

29. Montreal Canadiens Last season: 22-49-11 (55 points), missed playoffs Key players added: F Kirby Dach, F Evgenii Dadonov, D Mike Matheson, F Rem Pitlick, F Juraj Slafkovsky, F Mitchell Stephens Key players lost: D Alexander Romanov, F Cedric Paquette, D Jeff Petry, F Tyler Pitlick, F Ryan Poehling

30. Philadelphia Flyers Last season: 25-46-11 (61 points), missed playoffs Key players added: LW Nicolas Deslauriers, D Tony DeAngelo, D Justin Braun Key players lost: G Martin Jones

31. Arizona Coyotes Last season: 25-50-7 (57 points), missed playoffs Key players added: D Josh Brown, F Nick Bjugstad, F Zack Kassian, D Patrik Nemeth, D Troy Stecher Key players lost: D Kyle Capobianco, F Jay Beagle, F Phil Kessel, F Antoine Roussel, D Anton Stralman

32. Chicago Blackhawks Last season: 28-42-12 (68 points), missed playoffs Key players added: F Andreas Athanasiou, F Colin Blackwell, F Max Domi, D Jack Johnson Key players lost: F Alex Debrincat, F Kirby Dach, D Calvin De Haan, D Erik Gustafsson, F Dominik Kubalik, G Kevin Lankinen, F Dylan Strome

That should cover the basics. Let's drop the puck...

Wonder what ScottC thinks about the Montreal goal against Tampa, LOL CowboyCold still excite, lozen is excite, 5 in a row for Edmonton!

Yep. I was at a NYE party and the game was on in the background. So it was yak yak yak, oh look the Stars scored. Rinse and repeat 8 times. On another note was looking forward to the Winter Classic. Whatever game but thought the presentation was awful. Way too much white in the background with no fans. Made the Vegas jerseys looked washed out. Even the ice looked yellowish. When they did show the fans, most of those seats looked like they were a mile away. Haven't caught a Leafs game yet Phil, but with football winding down its on the list.

[QUOTE=philurivey;58398813]Wonder what ScottC thinks about the Montreal goal against Tampa, LOL/QUOTE] That was hilarious. Play til the whistle boys!

by philurivey m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58398813#post58398813)

Wonder what ScottC thinks about the Montreal goal against Tampa, LOL CowboyCold still excite, lozen is excite, 5 in a row for Edmonton!

Edmonton only 3 points out of a wildcard 😁 I just don’t see them having the goaltending to win a cup . Maybe they have a look at the hot goalie in the AHL I see Toronto winning the cup The PWHL cup 😬

Alright Phil, Canadians @ Stars 7:00 pm Leafs @ Kings 9:30 pm Hockey night in America. I'll report back with my noob hockey acumen on your team later.

by CowboyCold m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400277#post58400277)

Alright Phil, Canadians @ Stars 7:00 pm Leafs @ Kings 9:30 pm Hockey night in America. I'll report back with my noob hockey acumen on your team later.

hehehe, ya west coast swing so games on too late to watch until possibly Saturday. :(

Welp. The Stars game ended up being fun. Down 4-1 with 4 minutes and some change in the 3rd, Stars pull their goalie and score 2 goals with about a minute and a half left. They had 3 legit legit legit chances at tying it up to go to OT. But not to be. Just one of those games where they had plenty of scoring chances and nothing went in early. Let's go Leafs!

A difference I've noticed between a winning team and a losing team: TBL is dominating the Jets. Jets can barely pass the blue-line. TBL scores the opening goal. The Jets tie it up. TBL is still dominating the Jets. Now, every Jets team I've ever watched, TBL scores another goal. This year's Jets, the Jets manage to weather the TBL assault and slowly start to gain in territorial advantage. [Listening to the radio's between-period analysis, they mentioned TBL was playing with 5 D-Men, which meant that sustained pressure and long shifts were very taxing for TBL.] The Jets score and then score again. It felt really foreign to me, like watching all those decades of losses to the Oilers from the other side.

It seemed really odd to me that Ryan Hartman was fined for high-sticking Perfetti, where as there was no suspension or fine to Ryan Strome for kneeing Kyle Connor. It turns out Hartman is on tape explaining his reason for giving Perfetti stiches, but that supposedly wasn't why he was fined: https://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nh... (https://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/friesen-nhl-code-called-for-pound-of-jets-flesh-no-matter-whose#:~:text=from%20our%20team.-,FRIESEN%3A%20NHL%20%27code%27%20called%20for%20pound%20of%20Jets%20flesh,a%20tooth%20for%20a%20tooth). Something about The Code. I would love to hear what Strome said. I wonder if the broadcasters have some or all of the bench and ambient mic recordings saved somewhere. In Formula 1, anything said on the radio is out there. How much would you like to get audio from between the benches?

Whoa! A shutout for the Leafs in LA😮

Same talk and sources as Matthews deal and hearing more good than bad that Nylander deal is getting close, saying 11.25 aav have no idea how and 8 years possibly and hearing they might go with what I said and a signing bonus to front load it.

Oilers one point out of a wildcard spot Damn they look good

by philurivey m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400789#post58400789)

Whoa! A shutout for the Leafs in LA😮

Yep! Didn't want to post my noob review because I didn't know if you may watch on DVR. Jones made some incredible saves. Leafs had good scoring chances early that got stoned as well. Nylander had a great game. Hope you can keep him. Only other player I know anything about is Domi who the Stars picked up last year for their playoff run. Solid player. Liked him when he was here. Maybe I luck boxed into watching one of their best efforts of the year, but they looked competent to me. Oh, and Nylander had a sweet empty net goal at the end of the game. Love me some empty netters. I would say arrow pointing up for this team. I'll try to catch more games and sweat you. Grats on the win!

I was curious on how long the Samsanov contract was and how long the Leaf's may have a similar situation to the OIler's with Campbell . Surprised to see he is a UFA at the end of the year so not that much of a deal. Jones had a good night from the highlights I saw

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I was curious on how long the Samsanov contract was and how long the Leaf's may have a similar situation to the OIler's with Campbell . Surprised to see he is a UFA at the end of the year so not that much of a deal. Jones had a good night from the highlights I saw

Only 1 year deal for Samsanov.

57 shots and we barely won, yikes.

I don't know what I have to do to get Bruins - Canucks 2 in the finals. But my body would be ready. Nobody on their roster still left from 2011, right? I think we just have Marchy.

Less than 8 minutes gone in the 1st in the PIT BOS game and its 3-2. Action I tell ya. Stars Avalanche in 30 minutes.

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contract VGK without adin hill in net, they are garbage. actually, they probably will be garbage when he comes back. so still contract them.

is lehner never returning to the nhl?

by rickroll m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403414#post58403414)

is lehner never returning to the nhl?

good question. the only talk I've heard around here is that he is still "rehabbing". Not sure the last time I saw him make a public appearance for VGK. The crazy thing is that I think he would actually wake this zombie team up if he he'd start a game in January.

The current Wild team is pathetic. Watched the game last night and even a Lightning team with 3 starting defensemen out, Wild had zero chance. I'm OK with the Hartman play too btw.

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The current Wild team is pathetic. Watched the game last night and even a Lightning team with 3 starting defensemen out, Wild had zero chance. I'm OK with the Hartman play too btw.

They’re without Kaprizov and Zuccarello their two best players.