top set vs two villains flush n straight board

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NL Holdem 0.1(BB)

BB (104.4BBs) [VPIP: 24.3% | PFR: 16% | AGG: 23.3% | Hands: 148]

UTG (81.5BBs) [VPIP: 11.9% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 23.1% | Hands: 85]

HERO (226.3BBs) [VPIP: 21.6% | PFR: 18% | AGG: 41.8% | Flop Agg: 42.6% | Turn Agg: 48.7% | River Agg: 31.2% | 3Bet: 10.6% | 4Bet: 12.4% | Hands: 5744]

CO (100BBs) [VPIP: 22.1% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 13.6% | Hands: 71]

BTN (168.1BBs) [VPIP: 45.1% | PFR: 19.8% | AGG: 34.4% | Flop Agg: 15.4% | Turn Agg: 52.6% | River Agg: 53.8% | 3Bet: 5.6% | 4Bet: 25% | Cold Call: 34.2% | Hands: 94]

SB (112.2BBs) [VPIP: 25.6% | PFR: 19.8% | AGG: 32.1% | Flop Agg: 42.9% | Turn Agg: 28.6% | River Agg: 25% | 3Bet: 14.3% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 13.5% | Hands: 86]

Dealt to Hero: J♣ J♥

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To 2BBs, CO Folds, BTN Calls 2BBs, SB Calls 1.5BBs, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [15.74 effective]

Flop (7BBs): J♦ 2♠ T♦

SB Checks, HERO Bets 7BBs (Rem. Stack: 217.3BBs), BTN Calls 7BBs (Rem. Stack: 159.1BBs), SB Calls 7BBs (Rem. Stack: 103.2BBs)

Turn (28BBs): J♦ 2♠ T♦ 8♦

SB Checks, HERO Bets 14BBs (Rem. Stack: 203.3BBs), BTN Raises To 56BBs (Rem. Stack: 103.1BBs), SB Raises To 103.2BBs (allin),

Clearly at least one has straight or flush.

Is this a shove, call or fold

Originally posted by bazerk

Clearly at least one has straight or flush.

or both. A straight flush is possible, but it does seem unlikely.

Originally posted by bazerk

Is this a shove, call or fold

without doing the math, I don't think that you have direct odds to call, your outs are 1 J, 3 deuces, 3 tens and 3 eights. SB might have a weaker set, but you must play first. If in the unlikely situation that you're facing a straight flush, you're drawing dead.

From the stats given, it seems that BTN is somewhat more aggro than SB, which leans toward SB having not only a flush, but the nut flush.

I vote fold.

Thanks for that.

At I folded then, but afterwards I wasn't certain it was the correct move.

Originally posted by bazerk

Thanks for that.

At the time I did fold, but wasn't sure afterwards if that was right.

Do you happen to remember how the hand played out, or did BTN fold as well?

I do, but may I ask about my turn c-bet sizing before I reveal?

I would most likely size up pre-flop a bit as well. 2,5 or 3bb isn't to bad with also a loose passive BTN behind you.

Not sure about the potsize Cbet on the flop. Normal 2/3 pot is already pretty big, but villain on BTN is passive.

On the turn I would most likely make it around 20bb and fold to a raise or shove for value and protection.

Cheers,

SDK1987

Thanks for that.

At the time I didn't have those stats available. (GG) They both seemed "REGGY" at the time.

Spoiler River was a 2. BTN had flush. SB had Q-high straight

Originally posted by bazerk

Thanks for that.

At the time I didn't have those stats available. (GG) They both seemed "REGGY" at the time.

Spoiler River was a 2. BTN had flush. SB had Q-high straight

Yeah, GG does have some form of stats, but I don't know much about them.

Interesting that SB shoved that hand on that board.

Yeah, GG does have some form of stats, but I don't know much about them.

The stats are weird at times. Players can show different stats on different tables. And you could have a few notes on players, yet it says they haven't played a hand. 🤷‍♀️

Originally posted by bazerk

The stats are weird at times. Players can display different stats across tables. And you might have several notes on a player, yet it claims they never played a hand. 🤷‍♀️

Can you add notes directly on GG? I've never done that — I hardly ever play there, so I'm unlikely to run into the same opponent again. If you can, I hope you recorded that SB can shove a straight on a board that could have a flush.

Yea, BTN "only" calling preflop and flop makes him more likely having a flush OTT.