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My Journey As A Professional Poker Player

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Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 1:02 AM#1

Back in December 2019 I let the cat out of the bag that I had quit my job at the end of September to play poker for a living, by creating an Ask Me Anything (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/i-quit-my-job-to-play-poker-ama.50556/) thread. Now that we're about 10 months in, I figured it was time to begin a thread to follow along on my journey.

To provide some background, I'm now 43 years old, having left my job at 42 to pursue this change.

My background is that I grew up poor, in a family that survived on Welfare and Veterans Assistance. Got my first job at the age of 12 (as a paperboy) and had a high school friend whose parents owned a local hotel, so got a job at the front desk at the tender age of 16! Went to community college in the town I grew up in, got my Associates in Business and went to work. Always been a jack-of-all-trades, some highlights from my time working for "the man" include:

On-Call Firefighter & CPR Instructor

Communications Manager for a Ski Area

Emergency Medical Dispatcher for a private ambulance company

IT Support for multiple companies

Dispatch for multiple companies

The job I left last year to pursue this dream was as manager of a trucking company. We were a local auto-hauler, moving cars to and from dealerships and auctions, doing home-deliveries and brokering anything out-of-state. We had (7) seven-car haulers plus (4) tow trucks, and then office staff I also managed. We averaged 650 cars moved each week, although we had weeks that hit over 800.

The problem was, we operated 9am-9pm, Monday - Friday, but because we were so busy and it was difficult to find truck drivers (especially reliable ones), we were often short-staffed with our fleet. This meant we also were generally running guys in rotation on Saturdays as well, plus occasionally a customer would have a tent-sale we'd service so we might work Sunday as well.

So the job essentially became my life. If I was home for supper, I wasn't "home", and I certainly wasn't "present". I would have drivers, customers and staff calling me at all hours, whether it was 6:30am or 11pm. I might not physically be in the office, but I was putting in 70+ hours per week and did it for three years, and it was taking its toll. I was coming home exhausted and angry, and it was affecting my marriage. Eventually Jenn said "you need to quit, go play poker".

One of my friends that I had met in a local tournament here had told me he thought I'd do well playing PLO cash games. What's funny is I had always viewed them as essentially coin-flipping and gambling, as I hadn't really studied it much. My background in poker was growing up Italian, so at family gatherings we'd play 7 card stud, 5 card draw, roll dice, etc.

When the Moneymaker boom hit I learned Hold Em, although I didn't become competent until I had read Harringtons books on them. Then I learned fixed-limit Omaha hi/lo and from there branched out, picking up 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball, Badugi and other mixed games. I actually preferred fixed-limit games, I didn't enjoy the pressure people could apply to me in No Limit or Pot Limit games.

But anyway, jumping ahead to September of 2019. I'm beat up, I've reached the point where if I don't make a change somethings gotta give, and I'll either wind up fired, divorced or both. So I gave my boss my two weeks notice. He wasn't happy to see me go, but I didn't want to burn any bridges and left the right way (the ass you kick today may be the ass you kiss tomorrow!)

Going into this change in life, I had saved up 6 months of living expenses plus a separate bankroll just for poker. But, I hadn't really played PLO, and I was making the jump! I got Hwangs and Slotbooms books on PLO, read up, and jumped in!

At the time the Tampa Hard Rock would get a 2/5 PLO game with a rock (a $10 forced straddle posted by the winner of the previous pot). Buyins were $200-$2,000 and suddenly I was playing for much larger sums of money than I was accustomed, and playing a game I had no track record in! But, I had confidence. I knew I was a capable player and could pickup new things, and felt I had a strong enough background in a variety of poker formats to make the switch. I wasn't out there looking for glory, to be the best and beat the best. I just wanted to find players that were weaker than me and would pay me off so I could feed my family (just the wife and three cats, but hey, they gotta eat too!)

This is my graph since I started, by session. I might play multiple sessions per visit to a poker room, as I might jump between different stakes of PLO, Big O or mixed games. I am not showing the part of the graph that reveals the total dollars won, as that's not something I'm comfortable sharing. However, I know folks like to have some inkling of what someone in my line of work is making, so I'll provide a range of between $60-120/hr overall across all game types. Some games my rate is above or below that, depending on stakes and location. But my combined hourly is somewhere within the 60-120/hr range.

It's more money than anyone is going to pay my Associates-Degree having ass in a 9-5 job, that's for sure. So now you'll ask what games and stakes I play, well, I'm glad you asked, here you go!

Primarily I focus on:

2/5 PLO with a $10 Rock (buyins 200-2K)

1/2 PLO with a $5 button straddle and unlimited restraddles (my most profitable game each week, buyins 200-1k)

1/2 PLO (buyins 100-500)

I also play a 40/80 fixed-limit 27-game mix, although the variance is higher with so many draw games and generally I prefer PLO overall, but it is a nice change if the lineup is right.

In March I got a gym membership for an entire year, plus a personal trainer for 8 sessions, and then a few weeks in I was going to the gym every day and Covid hit, shutting the gyms down. They've since re-opened and I'm back in there doing my thing, plus I try to rollerskate once every week or two as well, which I enjoy and I'm quite good at.

Switching to poker has really helped my relationship and me personally as far as my mental health. I focus on cash games and play very few tournaments, because those lock you in for 8, 10, 12 hour days. With a cash game, I can go and play for 2 hours, win $1300 and head home, see my wife, watch some shows and enjoy life outside of constantly grinding. Some weeks I'll only put in 25 hours, other weeks 30-40. But nowhere near the 70 hours I was putting in working for "the man".

Don't get me wrong, it's not all sunshine and roses. In February I suffered my first (and crossing my fingers, so far only) losing month. It started off great, I think for the first 11 days I had made more than my monthly goal and was on track to match or exceed what I did in December (my first five-figure month) and I was feeling great!

Well, PLO has variance, I was warned, it wasn't going to last forever. Suddenly I went on a horrible downswing. The donks were getting me! Guy raises 3456 preflop to $30, another guy repots all-in for $150, I spring my trap with AAxx and repot to $450 and the guy with 3456 just calls off half his fucking stack and spikes the 667 flop, which looks good when you have Aces, since this guys calling range shouldn't include a 6 in it for half his stack, lol.

Flop top set and nfd vs a weaker fd and an open-ender? He binks the river straight. Have a guy drawing to ONE out on the turn in a $1,400 pot when you hold top two and the nfd vs his K944 with 2nd nfd and only one four in the deck is good for him since the other gives us both the flush, and he binks it on the river as a 2.5% to 97.5% underdog.

Most of the other losses were standard fair, flop straight and flush draws vs top set and I miss my draws, or flop the nut flush vs top set and get it in and he pairs the river, etc. I will say about $800 of my losses were bad play/tilt induced. I'm certainly not immune to it.

When Covid hit I wasn't able to play live anymore, and I'm fairly nitty so I'm not getting invited to any juicy private games either. I found a site online where I was able to play multiple tables of PLO, Big O and 5-card PLO and would play up to 6 tables at a time, sometimes tossing in a NL Hold Em tourney or PLO tourney into the mix as well. Helped keep me sharp and was profitable, although not as much as live poker. But it helped me get used to making a lot more decisions, getting more hands and experience in and also dealing with the ups and downs of this life I've chosen.

Anyway, we're closing in on almost a year of doing this, and I'm still happy with my decision. I will say I don't get the joy out of poker that I once did, as it's more work and less entertainment, so I do miss some of that aspect of it. But being able to pay my bills without having to punch a clock, having the freedom to choose my hours, to adjust to things in life I need to take care of without having to worry about dealing with my bosses needs, has been really freeing.

So stay tuned and subscribe to this space to follow along, and I'll continue to keep ya posted!

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 2:14 AM#2

I wish I had a casino or card room big enough and near me that they had a variety of games. Mine basically runs 1/2 NL only unless super busy, like on a Fri or Sat. So all the sharks don't have higher stakes to play at most of the time. Although the sharks probably travel to better casinos with better games.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 2:25 AM#3

I wish I had a casino or card room big enough and near me that they had a variety of games. Mine basically runs 1/2 NL only unless super busy, like on a Fri or Sat. So all the sharks don't have higher stakes to play at most of the time. Although the sharks probably travel to better casinos with better games.

I am fortunate to have 4 rooms within 20-40 minutes drive, although only two of them get PLO action

chipsncoffeeNewbie1 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 2:47 AM#4

When COVID hit, I was laid off and was fortunate enough to take my shot at playing professionally as well. I grinded like crazy and was able to work my way from playing $50NLHE to $500NLHE online. The swings can be rough, and it’s important not to get caught in the “I gotta get that money back” mentality because, if you work hard and play well, it’ll come back, just maybe not as quickly as it left.

I’m glad to hear that you’re pursuing this, Anthony, and I’m glad it makes you happy!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 2:51 AM#5

When COVID hit, I was laid off and was fortunate enough to take my shot at playing professionally as well. I grinded like crazy and was able to work my way from playing $50NLHE to $500NLHE online. The swings can be rough, and it’s important not to get caught in the “I gotta get that money back” mentality because, if you work hard and play well, it’ll come back, just maybe not as quickly as it left.

I’m glad to hear that you’re pursuing this, Anthony, and I’m glad it makes you happy!

Great point. It's easy to get into a "gotta get even from last session" mentality.

But you just need to focus on making good decisions, playing when you are fresh and targetting weaker or tired opponents

Most sessions are made or broken by one or two key hands, make sure you play them well. Sometimes luck will turn on you, even that guy with 1 out will get there. But be happy he won, he'll give it back with interest in future sessions

SwangandBangStrosNewbie1 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 3:24 AM#6

Love to read your updates and insights into the live poker grind, appreciate you taking the time to do this!

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 3:27 AM#7

Good luck man. I am good friends with a lot of pros in my area trying to grind out a living. The swings can be tough on u guys. Stay strong and don’t go on tilt. Leave that to the amateurs like me!

I am on the other end of the spectrum. If there is a decent game in the Tri-state area I probably know about it and have been invited to it. I am not a pro so all the invites say something about my game. I think I should be insulted every time I get a text invite but I play anyway. I love - bangers/waterfalls/bomb pots, big o, 5 card plo hi, plo and plo 8. I also love the mixed games - badugi, etc.

btw, the kennel club has a pretty decent plo game. I have played there a few times when I go on Florida golf trips. Great action.

detroitdadHigh Roller601 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 3:29 AM#8

Don't you already have a "I'm a pro" thread?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 9:23 AM#9

Don't you already have a "I'm a pro" thread?

That's an ask me anything thread, I think you complained in the past when I used it to keep folks updated

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 9:27 AM#10

I think I should be insulted every time I get a text invite but I play anyway. I love - bangers/waterfalls/bomb pots, big o, 5 card plo hi, plo and plo 8. I also love the mixed games - badugi, etc.

btw, the kennel club has a pretty decent plo game. I have played there a few times when I go on Florida golf trips. Great action.

Never heard of bangers or waterfalls, care to elaborate?

I know bomb pots but rarely see them done. At the crazy unlimited straddle game we'll do $50 or $100 flips when the dealer changes. Some guys will do savers or side bets on top of that

I've heard Oxford downs has a great Big O game, but it's private, plus it's over 60 miles from me, and I have more than enough action in under 20 miles

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 9:29 AM#11

Love to read your updates and insights into the live poker grind, appreciate you taking the time to do this!

Thanks, glad to share the journey!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 10:10 AM#12

Don't you already have a "I'm a pro" thread?

Nope, my bad, that was Krafty

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 11:27 AM#13

Congratulations Anthony!

In the words of Mike Sexton: “May all your cards be live and all your pots be monsters!”

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 11:41 AM#14

Never heard of bangers or waterfalls, care to elaborate?

I know bomb pots but rarely see them done. At the crazy unlimited straddle game we'll do $50 or $100 flips when the dealer changes. Some guys will do savers or side bets on top of that

I've heard Oxford downs has a great Big O game, but it's private, plus it's over 60 miles from me, and I have more than enough action in under 20 miles

Banger/flip - everybody who is in Puts up bet and gets a hand. Dealer runs out flop turn river (unless is 7 stud banger). Best hand wins. 7 stud midnight baseball bangers are my favorite.

waterfall - everyone who is in puts up initial bet. Dealer peals the flop. Hand is played normally from that point.

Bomb pots - everyone who is in puts up initial bet. Dealer peals two flops. Hand is played pot limit from there usually with a cap. 2 turns, 2 rivers. spilt pot game.

no saving in waterfalls or bomb pots.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 12:02 PM#15

So here's an update as June winds to a close. Poker opened back up around May 21st, with 6-max at the Tampa Hard Rock.

As a self-confessed nit, I'm not a fan of short-handed games. They tend to be more aggressive, require you to widen the hands you play, etc. I was perfectly content with 9-handed games where the liklihood of a fish paying me off was far greater

But, I figured a lot of nits would avoid the 6 max games, and the degenerates who NEED to gamble would come out in droves, figured it was an opportunity not to miss, even if it was somewhat out of my comfort zone.

So I dove in opening night, and sure enoufgh found plenty of action.

Now I quit my job so I could enjoy life, and typically play noon-8pm or until 10pm, so I could enjoy a normal sleep schedule, still see my wife, etc

However, about a week into opening, the games got terrible during my normal hours. Since we were some of the first poker action back in the country, many grinders from outside the area flooded Tampa

Lots of unfamiliar faces began to appear, and with 4 games running not one of them was good. It was 1 fish and 5 nits/pros, with no action

So, I made the adjustment. I would wake up at 2am, get ready and hit the rooms at 330am on key mornings (fri/sat/sun) to catch the tired and stuck players

I definetly found this to be much better, lots more action. Had a guy in the 2/5/10 PLO who called off $500 all-in preflop THREE-WAYS with J764 one suit.

When he busted, he went straight to the cage and bought another 2k. He raised EVERY hand preflop to $35-40

His VP$IP was 100%. He did not fold preflop EVER!

This past Friday I tried to resume my old schedule, managed to win $500, but still found the action lacking, so hit up the casino around 3am Saturday morning and found the action much better, winning another $800

The restraddle game on Mondays at Luckys is still good. The Colluding Cubans don't seem to play anymore, but we still get guys who will restraddle to $40 or even $80 preflop.

I just play patient, get it in with good equity and win my share.

I've been working on expanding my gamble a bit. I put in a restraddle to $40 one hand, and did a few $10 and $20 ones as well. But unlike the fish, I'm not doing it out of position in the blinds. I'm on the button or in the CO.

I also participate in the $50 flips. One day I won three in a row, and almost won the 4th one, but came in 2nd

I also had a policy of only running it one time, but another pro says it's best to do what the fish want and keep them happy. So I'm going to give it a shot and see how that goes.

Had a guy 3-handed raise pre, I call with QJ98 and the flop comes 67T rainbow, he pots, I repot and he stacks off with AA92. We run it twice and I scoop both

As June winds to a close, I am having my 2nd best month ever, only beaten by my 5 figure month last December

My graph since poker opened back up

BlasterMicro-Stakes Grinder17 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 12:36 PM#16

I enjoy your updates, keep us posted.

It's also crossed my mind , about the loss of some of the "enjoyment" of poker, when it becomes a full time job. ( The guy who sets up and cleans fish tanks all day, is probably not too excited about going home and cleaning a fish tank).

Perhaps there's a way you can save / compartmentalize NLHE tournaments for the enjoyment factor..

Wishing you all the best!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 1:21 PM#17

I enjoy your updates, keep us posted.

It's also crossed my mind , about the loss of some of the "enjoyment" of poker, when it becomes a full time job. ( The guy who sets up and cleans fish tanks all day, is probably not too excited about going home and cleaning a fish tank).

Perhaps there's a way you can save / compartmentalize NLHE tournaments for the enjoyment factor..

Wishing you all the best!

Marry a massage therapist and she's probably not thrilled to rub you when she gets home.

I think Jonathan Little had a video where he talks about playing for a living, and how you won't want to play 40 hours/week, and for me that's certainly true. I have no drive to be in action constantly, I just want to make my money and then enjoy my life.

In the past when I had a "real" job, playing poker was an escape from it, it was entertainment and sometimes profitable. So I relished being able to go and compete in a tournament or play some cash games. But now, with it a central part of my life, I look to other things to escape it I guess. I still enjoy playing, I still have fun and still keep it lively at the tables. But it definitely lost some of the luster it once had when it wasn't my full-time gig.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 1:58 PM#18

Has the "luster" come off for poker during meet-ups?

Obviously, seeing friendly faces is a positive, but I know that my enjoyment of home games is greater than my enjoyment of casino games. Largely because during a home game I don't "care" if I win or lose. I wonder if that is a switch you can turn off to enjoy the poker more.

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 2:02 PM#19

Good luck Anthony I enjoy your posts and seeing your success at PLO. Stay safe down in Florida that Covid is a real nit.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 2:08 PM#20

Has the "luster" come off for poker during meet-ups?

Obviously, seeing friendly faces is a positive, but I know that my enjoyment of home games is greater than my enjoyment of casino games. Largely because during a home game I don't "care" if I win or lose. I wonder if that is a switch you can turn off to enjoy the poker more.

The stakes at the meetups are low enough that it is more about socializing and having fun. Although the pressure to perform is high because everyone is like "oh, you're a pro? I ain't impressed!" Lol

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 2:19 PM#21

The stakes at the meetups are low enough that it is more about socializing and having fun. Although the pressure to perform is high because everyone is like "oh, you're a pro? I ain't impressed!" Lol

We've met you Anthony. You could be a TV pro pulling in 6 figures, and we'd still be "oh, you're a pro? I ain't impressed!" ;)

markleteenieRegular28 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 3:00 PM#22

Thanks for this thread it’s fascinating to see that side of it! I like seeing the updates and especially what you and others shove preflop in PLO.

I mostly try to play well but some sessions just want to gamble too, and since I play for fun I allow that to happen.

“I'd say good luck, but I know it's not about luck in your game.”

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 5:23 PM#23

Thanks for this thread it’s fascinating to see that side of it! I like seeing the updates and especially what you and others shove preflop in PLO.

Generally speaking, I am trying NOT to shove preflop, except in very specific instances

PLO is such a flop-dependent game, that I try to keep pots small and see flops to determine if there's enough equity to continue or bloat the pot

However, if I have a premium hand and can get it in preflop or create such a low SPR that my flop shove is automatic, I will do so.

I tried to isolate a weaker player preflop when I held JT87 double suited, ran into an ok player who had slowplayed AAXX and was committed three-ways AND a favorite because the fish had A256 so my hand had the most equity when the money went in.

Unfortunately I didn't win, the fish with the worst equity did, and the ok player got the side pot from me. But I'm happy seeing the fish triple up, he'll keep gambling with the worst of it every session, which is good for my bottom line

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 5:45 PM#24

Marry a massage therapist and she's probably not thrilled to rub you when she gets home.

I think Jonathan Little had a video where he talks about playing for a living, and how you won't want to play 40 hours/week, and for me that's certainly true. I have no drive to be in action constantly, I just want to make my money and then enjoy my life.

In the past when I had a "real" job, playing poker was an escape from it, it was entertainment and sometimes profitable. So I relished being able to go and compete in a tournament or play some cash games. But now, with it a central part of my life, I look to other things to escape it I guess. I still enjoy playing, I still have fun and still keep it lively at the tables. But it definitely lost some of the luster it once had when it wasn't my full-time gig.

The upside seems to by far and away outweigh the loss of a little enjoyment.

You know me, I suck at poker - don’t play too too much, have never sat and watched hands play out, never listened to strategy, and have never read a book. I’m not playing poker, I’m gambling.

I’d love to take time and improve, but compared to other games, sports, board games, work, family, etc., it’s the only thing I‘m not extraordinarily competitive and driven towards. Too scared I’d lose my only “relaxing” pastime, I’ll just try and limit my losses and follow along on your journey!

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 6:00 PM#25

I too enjoy reading about about your experiences playing for a living, especially because I'm more a fan of PLO too. Looks like the Florida games are juicy and fun like I should have been going there instead of Vegas ever lol.

EllasdaddyMicro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 7:35 PM#26

Terrific thread. Wishing you lots of run good!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 8:32 PM#27

I too enjoy reading about about your experiences playing for a living, especially because I'm more a fan of PLO too. Looks like the Florida games are juicy and fun like I should have been going there instead of Vegas ever lol.

I haven't played anywhere else, but I've heard games in Texas card clubs are really good too.

I hope to someday play on Live at the Bike, as the PLO I've seen has had plenty of droolers who would just be handing me a blank check lol

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 9:32 PM#28

I haven't played anywhere else, but I've heard games in Texas card clubs are really good too.

I hope to someday play on Live at the Bike, as the PLO I've seen has had plenty of droolers who would just be handing me a blank check lol

Texas is the one other place Ive thought could be fun. After watching some of Fireman Scott’s videos it looks like action city. He plays super loose but supposedly a big winner, must be good games. Greg Vail also talks about going there to play Pot Limit Big O. I’ve actually been playing more Big O online than anything else.

detroitdadHigh Roller601 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 9:42 PM#29

That's an ask me anything thread, I think you complained in the past when I used it to keep folks updated

Lol.... it's not right if I'm not bitching about something

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 9:47 PM#30

Lol.... it's not right if I'm not bitching about something

Amen to that.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 9:47 PM#31

Texas is the one other place Ive thought could be fun. After watching some of Fireman Scott’s videos it looks like action city. He plays super loose but supposedly a big winner, must be good games. Greg Vail also talks about going there to play Pot Limit Big O. I’ve actually been playing more Big O online than anything else.

I've seen Fireman Scotts videos. I think he won 100k in a bad beat jackpot or something and just plays super aggro.

He does have some big winning sessions, but I think overall he is a losing player. The thought processes he has shared in many videos and the hands he goes to war with, in my opinion, are critically flawed.

That doesn't mean in the short-term he can't hit some really big wins, but his claim to be the GOAT of PLO is laughable from what I've seen.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 9:48 PM#32

Lol.... it's not right if I'm not bitching about something

It was Krafticus, not you, my bad lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 10:32 PM#33

Texas is the one other place Ive thought could be fun. After watching some of Fireman Scott’s videos it looks like action city. He plays super loose but supposedly a big winner, must be good games. Greg Vail also talks about going there to play Pot Limit Big O. I’ve actually been playing more Big O online than anything else.

Alright, at the 9:20 mark in this video, Scott calls off $1,200 preflop with KJ96

Then in this video at 3:30 he's calling a preflop 4-bet in PLO8 with KQJ7 one suit

At 7:40 he's calling a raise OOP with QQ22 in PLO8

Then in this one at 10:45 he is raising pre in PLO8 with AJ86. Of course he flops gold with J6J so he uses the results to justify his bad hand selection

And here he is at the 10:00 mark calling two raises preflop with QJ62 one suit in high only when everyone is deepstacked. He catches lightning in a bottle to justify to himself how great a player he is

I'd love to see him come play in Tampa, I could get that 4th cat Jenn's been bugging me for!

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 11:44 PM#34

Wow... Fireman Scott... what an idiot.

"Everybody folds except my buddy Russian David... I knew I might lose $1200, but I also knew I might win every chip on the table"

Now I might be bad at PLO. Really bad. But even I know that you do not calculate the chip stacks of the players that folded into your pot odds. :banghead:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 28, 2020, 11:49 PM#35

Wow... Fireman Scott... what an idiot.

Suffers from delusions of granduer, but also has a bunch of people in the comments that stroke his ego

Not EVERY hand he shows is misplayed, but there's enough of them to know he's a long-term loser in PLO

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 12:23 AM#36

Alright, at the 9:20 mark in this video, Scott calls off $1,200 preflop with KJ96

Then in this video at 3:30 he's calling a preflop 4-bet in PLO8 with KQJ7 one suit

At 7:40 he's calling a raise OOP with QQ22 in PLO8

Then in this one at 10:45 he is raising pre in PLO8 with AJ86. Of course he flops gold with J6J so he uses the results to justify his bad hand selection

And here he is at the 10:00 mark calling two raises preflop with QJ62 one suit in high only when everyone is deepstacked. He catches lightning in a bottle to justify to himself how great a player he is

I'd love to see him come play in Tampa, I could get that 4th cat Jenn's been bugging me for!

I’ve seen enough of those video already lol. I had the same thoughts regarding his hand selection and whether he actually makes money or not.

krafticusRegular68 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 4:06 AM#37

It was Krafticus, not you, my bad lol

Huh,??

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 9:01 AM#38

Huh,??

In my AMA thread you made a comment about me using it for updates

Rhodeman77Shark314 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 5:52 PM#40

I want a death match between @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) & @Rhodeman77 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/605/) for rollz yo! The Nit VS The NutCracker!

We have played a few hands together on WC but Tony seems to look for bigger fish to fry at the casino.

In reality it would probably be a pretty boring match. We play similar styles for the most part. I like to play small ball with lots of small pots and bets to until I catch someone with a monster when they take a stand or a catch a hidden monster.

I think Tony would be able to fold in those spots where others don’t.

toothpicRegular72 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 8:36 PM#41

Love these updates, Anthony. I had wondered how the entire COVID-19 situation was affecting your game now that games are allowed again. Agreed on the point of if you do something for a living, you really enjoy it less or maybe in a different way.

I'll be following for future updates. I don't know that I could take the stress of playing for a living due to the swings but definitely intrigued in the process.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 8:43 PM#42

I don't know that I could take the stress of playing for a living due to the swings

February was definetly eye-opening for me, and it caused me to adjust my daily loss-limit down to handle the swings mentally

I am working my daily loss limit back up now, so we'll see.

But really it's all about 1 or 2 key pots each session most of the time. What's nice about pot-limit is usually you can see a flop and determine to continue based on equities

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 8:44 PM#43

Ballsy move to learn PLO right before diving in!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 8:48 PM#44

Ballsy move to learn PLO right before diving in!

I was versed in multiple poker disciplines and figured I could manage it.

And if not, I had (and still have) exit strategies to return to the workforce if needed

toothpicRegular72 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 8:57 PM#45

PLO looks fun and we try to integrate it into our home games with dealer's choice on NLHE or PLO. Would you say the variance in PLO is higher than NLHE or is it just a byproduct of me not knowing my stats yet with PLO hands, draws and redraws?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 29, 2020, 9:02 PM#46

PLO looks fun and we try to integrate it into our home games with dealer's choice on NLHE or PLO. Would you say the variance in PLO is higher than NLHE or is it just a byproduct of me not knowing my stats yet with PLO hands, draws and redraws?

I think the nlhe games have become tougher and more solved, although there are still shitty players you can make a living off of.

But PLO attracts more gamblers, they make bigger hands more often, so it's exciting. They just carry the hold em hand strengths into PLO and lose. They overvalue two pair, bottom set, non-nut flushes, idiot ends of the straight and underfulls

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 12:49 AM#47

and underfulls

The biggest moneymaker there is in PLO against less savvy players.

chicubs1988Micro-Stakes Grinder7 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 1:28 AM#48

What PLO book or online resource would you recommend? I keep telling myself I want to take a deep dive into PLO, but then I remember I still have a bunch of NLHE books I haven't read yet.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 1:29 AM#49

What PLO book or online resource would you recommend? I keep telling myself I want to take a deep dive into PLO, but then I remember I still have a bunch of NLHE books I haven't read yet.

Jeff Hwang and Rolf Slotboom are what I read and then jumped in and I've done well.

I've heard a lot of people speak well of Jnandez's material, but trying to watch his videos for me is a snoozefest, he just doesn't capture my attention.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 4:57 PM#50

Wow... Fireman Scott... what an idiot

Check the hand arpund 1 hr 15 minute mark. He raises QQ54, barrels a JT9 flop, gets called in two spots, barrels the Ace turn

I'm still making my way through the stream

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 6:14 PM#51

Guy playing without a mask, guy with mask over the chin, guy eating a fucking gooey cheese sandwich, and COVID id on the rise in Texas? I wonder why?

I guess I can't blame them though. I think the only thing worse than Fireman Scott's pressing a 3rd nut flush, was the nitty play of a flopped top straight with a boat redraw. Again, I'm not good at Omaha, but was that even remotely a good move to keep calling and never raising?

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 6:23 PM#52

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Guy playing without a mask, guy with mask over the chin, guy eating a fucking gooey cheese sandwich, and COVID id on the rise in Texas? I wonder why?

I guess I can't blame them though. I think the only thing worse than Fireman Scott's pressing a 3rd nut flush, was the nitty play of a flopped top straight with a boat redraw. Again, I'm not good at Omaha, but was that even remotely a good move to keep calling and never raising?

agreed. Guy flops a st8 and 2 p And flats after a clean turn. Then tanks when he boats up. Super nit. Ridiculous. I would kick that guy out of my house.

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 6:26 PM#53

I think you can give him some small credit for a blocker bet that obviously won’t work in that specific hand. The guy with the flopped straight isn’t too nitty at all if Fireman is an aggromaniac that’ll bet anything and there’s a 3rd player calling along. Let him hang himself. Would Fireman Scott call off a check raise on the turn? River kinda sucks for him going from the nuts to almost the worst full house. Scott or the other player could have had a set already?

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 6:50 PM#54

I like scott - he bet his qq blockers, with a club draw back up. He took a shot. I like the guy who tried to bluff the river with nothing. Both get invites to my house. While I understand flopping a st8 is a tough hand to hold up, come on. This guy hit a clean turn and had 2p back up. How does that guy get a seat on tv??

toothpicRegular72 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 6:57 PM#55

I like scott - he bet his qq blockers, with a club draw back up. He took a shot. I like the guy who tried to bluff the river with nothing. Both get invites to my house. While I understand flopping a st8 is a tough hand to hold up, come on. This guy hit a clean turn and had 2p back up. How does that guy get a seat on tv??

It's not really a prestigious show. TCH is Texas Card House, a local to me poker room. They do live streams often on weekends on YouTube. You just have to buy in to make it on the show :)

toothpicRegular72 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:00 PM#56

Forgot to say, I'm not sure if this is the Austin or Houston location but based off the announcer's voice I think its Austin. From what most YouTube poker players have said, the games are action packed in Texas. I grew up here so it's normal to me lol

Wes Cutshall is someone I liked watching. He primarily plays at TCH Houston.

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:02 PM#57

That wasn’t even a big game. Was it 5/5?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:03 PM#58

That wasn’t even a big game. Was it 5/5?

It's 1/3 buyins were up to 1k but then they uncapped it

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:27 PM#59

It's 1/3 buyins were up to 1k but then they uncapped it

Do they do $5 bring in so open raise is $15 instead of $10? They really should just be a $2/5 game when they do that.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:33 PM#60

Do they do $5 bring in so open raise is $15 instead of $10? They really should just be a $2/5 game when they do that.

They were doing a $6 mandatory straddle

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:38 PM#61

I like scott - he bet his qq blockers, with a club draw back up. He took a shot. I like the guy who tried to bluff the river with nothing. Both get invites to my house. While I understand flopping a st8 is a tough hand to hold up, come on. This guy hit a clean turn and had 2p back up. How does that guy get a seat on tv??

I couldn’t see he had two clubs, they need 4-color deck lol. I like his play more then. At least in this hand lol.

They were doing a $6 mandatory straddle

That makes a lot more sense for the stack sizes. The $1/2(5) structure in Vegas kinda irritates me but really I benefit from being a little tightwad folding away for only $3 an orbit instead of $7 lol. Is your usual Florida game the same structure?

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:41 PM#62

In the Maryland area the game of choice has moved from plo to 5 card plo. Much more action. Nobody folds. I do think that plo is a better game though.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:43 PM#63

I couldn’t see he had two clubs, they need 4-color deck lol. I like his play more then. At least in this hand lol.

That makes a lot more sense for the stack sizes. The $1/2(5) structure in Vegas kinda irritates me but really I benefit from being a little tightwad folding away for only $3 an orbit instead of $7 lol. Is your usual Florida game the same structure?

We have a 2/5 with a $10 rock and a 1/2 with mandatory $5 button straddle and unlimited restraddles

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:45 PM#64

In the Maryland area the game of choice has moved from plo to 5 card plo. Much more action. Nobody folds. I do think that plo is a better game though.

5 card def great for more action, we don't get it much, even with 6 max games

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 7:52 PM#65

this is what can happen in 5 card plo game At maryland live. This is a 1/2 game. This guy Bought in for 200 and went straight to 11k. Haha.

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 8:06 PM#66

U can always step up to the 5/5 game at the mgm. with the right line up u can go far.....

then u can step up to, my favorite, the Invite only 25/25 mix game (plo and big o) at md live - however those pics r not suitable for children under 18 years old.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 8:11 PM#68

I've played 5/10 with a 25 rock, but nothing higher. I'm going to need a bigger bankroll, or a wealthy sponcer like Nooker who came in 1,344 of 2,789 entrants!

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 8:13 PM#69

I've played 5/10 with a 25 rock, but nothing higher. I'm going to need a bigger bankroll, or a wealthy sponcer like Nooker who came in 1,344 of 2,789 entrants!

What's the biggest pot you've won so far?

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 8:14 PM#70

I've played 5/10 with a 25 rock, but nothing higher. I'm going to need a bigger bankroll, or a wealthy sponcer like Nooker who came in 1,344 of 2,789 entrants!

Saoliver would love to see the return of Nooker.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 8:14 PM#71

What's the biggest pot you've won so far?

Somewhere in the 4k range, give or take

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 8:15 PM#72

Saoliver would love to see the return of Nooker.

Be quiet you bum puppet!

RichMahoganyMicro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 8:56 PM#73

Rich Mahogany came to ask how many of you bum puppets have the results that Nooker has?

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 10:53 PM#75

Not a bad day but kinda yeah lolol

I guess u r more of a 25/25 guy?

Bmeister51Micro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 10:56 PM#76

I guess u r more of a 25/25 guy?

10-20 up to 50-100 lol

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 11:01 PM#77

10-20 up to 50-100 lol

Limit?

Bmeister51Micro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 11:05 PM#78

Limit?

Lol no limit

JeepologyOffroadMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 11:06 PM#80

Lol no limit

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 11:22 PM#81

Oh, nice. The biggest I play is 25/25/50 (plo/big o mix) - when that game runs at md live. Typically I play 5/5/25 big o, Plo or 5 card plo. Plenty of those games around with good action in and out of the casino. I also love the limit mixed games - badugi, etc.

Bmeister51Micro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 11:23 PM#82

yeah we have a 50-100 mix that runs on wednesdays but we spread 10-20/20-40 five days a week and it plays pretty big... evey now and again we get 25-50 no or 50-100 no going and it gets wild. Probably anywhere from 180-250k on the table most nights lol

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 11:40 PM#83

I've played 5/10 with a 25 rock, but nothing higher. I'm going to need a bigger bankroll, or a wealthy sponcer like Nooker who came in 1,344 of 2,789 entrants!

The fact that you still remember Nooker's finishing position and # of entrants is a mental task unworthy of mortal men.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jun 30, 2020, 11:45 PM#84

The fact that you still remember Nooker's finishing position and # of entrants is a mental task unworthy of mortal men.

I just made that shit up, but if it's spot-on that would be something

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jul 1, 2020, 12:48 AM#85

yeah we have a 50-100 mix that runs on wednesdays but we spread 10-20/20-40 five days a week and it plays pretty big... evey now and again we get 25-50 no or 50-100 no going and it gets wild. Probably anywhere from 180-250k on the table most nights lol

For me the line up is more important that the stakes. I typically only go to the casino for a semi private game where I know all the players in the initial line up and know that the line up is good. We do this a lot. If I show up randomly To the casino I will only play lo stakes with all the nits and pros. Otherwise I tend to stick to the home games.

Bmeister51Micro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jul 1, 2020, 1:02 AM#86

For me the line up is more important that the stakes. I typically only go to the casino for a semi private game where I know all the players in the initial line up and know that the line up is good. We do this a lot. If I show up randomly To the casino I will only play lo stakes with all the nits and pros. Otherwise I tend to stick to the home games.

That’s all well and good but if there’s a quarter of $1 million on the table I don’t care who’s sitting I’m going to play LOL

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jul 1, 2020, 1:04 AM#87

That’s all well and good but if there’s a quarter of $1 million on the table I don’t care who’s sitting I’m going to play LOL

Haha. Agreed.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 1, 2020, 2:33 AM#88

Today was no bueno at the tables. Upset with myself for getting overly sticky in a couple of spots where the board texture changed, after I had flopped the nuts in one hand, and turned the nuts in another

Both times my opponents made their draws and both times I played the payoff artist

-2k on the day, but still had my 2nd best month ever and will tighten my shit up for next session and not make those payoffs

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jul 1, 2020, 3:15 PM#89

I just made that shit up, but if it's spot-on that would be something

Damn! Not even playing poker, and you got me with that bluff - you are a god sir!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 1:25 AM#90

Hard Rock Tampa just updated their tables recently from 6-max with plexiglass to 7-max. I'm definitely looking forward to that change.

Also have a very entertaining getup planned for this Saturdays 4th of July at the casino, I'll make sure to get pics!

krafticusRegular68 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 6:48 AM#91

And Florida is a hotspot. Good luck, in more ways than 1

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 10:02 AM#92

And Florida is a hotspot. Good luck, in more ways than 1

Very confident I already had the virus at the end of January.

Cases are rising, deaths are down.

Hard rock does temp checks, requires masks, has plexiglass dividers, requires players sanitize hands each time they sit down at the table (or get up and come back) and they clean the chips and replace cards regularly.

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 1:07 PM#93

Very confident I already had the virus at the end of January.

Cases are rising, deaths are down.

You'll never know -- antibody tests are unreliable, and no one knows how long acquired immunity will last.

Deaths are down, probably due to many afflicted being younger. But COVID ICU beds are full already in many areas of Florida, including here.

Take extra care, Anthony. You won't be doing much twitching from an intubator...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 1:15 PM#94

You'll never know -- antibody tests are unreliable, and no one knows how long acquired immunity will last.

Deaths are down, probably due to many afflicted being younger. But COVID ICU beds are full already in many areas of Florida, including here.

Take extra care, Anthony. You won't be doing much twitching from an intubator...

Well, as I've mentioned before. I never get the flu shot, I never get the flu either. End of January I was the sickest I've ever been in my life. The symptoms I experienced match up with those of Covid, but at the time no one was talking about it, so we just thought we caught a bad case of the flu because I was playing full time at the casinos.

About a month and a half later, I get hit with the same exact symptoms (this time my wife does not). But, they are significantly less severe and only last maybe 3-4 days instead of 2 weeks.

For me, that says I either caught a weaker strain of Covid, or I had developed antibodies enough that it didn't hit me as hard the 2nd time around.

Whatever the case, the poker room has plenty of precautions in place that I am not concerned.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 6:44 PM#95

Got some real droolers at this 1/2 PLO table. Guy with bottom 2 pair and a gutshot stacked off on this flop. He was rewarded with the Q turn but went bust within the next hour playing like a tard.

Unfortunately I didn't get him, but still going ok

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 10:08 PM#96

Whew, had to sweat this one. Button straddle to $5, I call from SB with :ac::qh::jh::jc:, bunch of other callers, guy in MP makes it 10, everyone calling, I repot to $70 and we go SIX WAYS to this flop

:kd::8c::td:

We all check to the shorty who made it 10, he goes all-in for $63

Bunch of callers, I call. Turn the beautiful :as: and I pot it all-in when they check

One more shorty calls off for $130 and river :2s: is fucking pure, bust three guys who rebuy andSCOOP!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 10:43 PM#97

Made quad 8s on the turn and got paid

BurkeMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 11:17 PM#99

Whew, had to sweat this one. Button straddle to $5, I call from SB with :ac::qh::jh::jc:, bunch of other callers, guy in MP makes it 10, everyone calling, I repot to $70 and we go SIX WAYS to this flop

:kd::8c::td:

We all check to the shorty who made it 10, he goes all-in for $63

Bunch of callers, I call. Turn the beautiful :as: and I pot it all-in when they check

One more shorty calls off for $130 and river :2s: is fucking pure, bust three guys who rebuy andSCOOP!

View attachment 485065 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/485065/)

this hand reminds me of a certain online app. I am only surprised that some hand like 6667 didn’t win

k9drShark175 posts
Posted Jul 3, 2020, 11:20 PM#100

Looks like you’re at the bank teller window making withdrawals.

High hand bonus too, or not for PLO?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 4, 2020, 12:18 AM#101

High hand bonus too, or not for PLO?

We have to flop the high hand, AND you have to hold up for each 30 minute period. I turned the quads, plus I think quad 10's was already on the board

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 4, 2020, 1:09 AM#102

High hand bonus too, or not for PLO?

I can't complain, cashed out for $2800. Was a great session

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 4, 2020, 7:38 PM#103

A little 4th of July PLO

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Jul 4, 2020, 8:24 PM#104

A little 4th of July PLO

View attachment 485705 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/485705/)

Up $2800 yesterday, and you couldn't afford red, white, and blue shoes? A flag for the left hand? Red white, and blue underwear (no, we don't want to see it!)

(It's a good thing I just picked up a bottle of anti-nausea/vomiting pills at Walgreens...but now they may not last until my surgery...)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 4, 2020, 8:34 PM#105

Up $2800 yesterday, and you couldn't afford red, white, and blue shoes? A flag for the left hand? Red white, and blue underwear (no, we don't want to see it!)

(It's a good thing I just picked up a bottle of anti-nausea/vomiting pills at Walgreens...but now they may not last until my surgery...)

Surgery? Whatta ya got......Commie-itis?

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Jul 5, 2020, 1:55 AM#106

Surgery? Whatta ya got......Commie-itis?

Knee replacement. Hurt it bending down to remove that wheel from your car.

You can expect the bill...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 5, 2020, 5:34 PM#107

Jesus christ! I join a gym at the beginning of March, 2 weeks later Covid closes all the gyms

Now the gym is reopened and this happens

12thManMicro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jul 5, 2020, 5:59 PM#108

Oh wow that’s horrible. The pizza place could have been damaged. ;)

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jul 5, 2020, 10:46 PM#109

"We can't have the short heavy guy walking in and out the front door, think about our image! What are we going to do?"

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 6, 2020, 2:52 PM#110

1/2/5 PLO in for 1k, was down $400 early (got 3-outered) but just won a pot when I got it in three ways pre with :ac::kc::qc::qs: and the flop came :qh::8h::8s:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 6, 2020, 3:50 PM#111

Keeping it growing, call a raise in SB with :7s::7h::6s::6d:

Flop is :2h::5s::8c: and everyone checks. Turn :9s: and I pot it and get one caller who has JJTT and river is :6d:

I check but he doesn't bluff at it

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 6, 2020, 4:51 PM#112

Ooch, was doing great, then this hand

Straddled to $40 in MP, guy with 3k raises to $185

We are on button with $1900 and repot to $635 or 685, whatever it was, with :ad::as::td::9h:

He cold calls, flop is :th::5d::6c: and he bets $650 into me. I block top set, there's no flush draws and I have a hard time putting him on a straight draw type hand that calls pre, plus I have the 9 blocker for those rundowns as well

I get it in, board pairs 5, then pairs 6, he shows QJTT

Ooch

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 6, 2020, 5:15 PM#113

Hard to tell from the angle, but he has 8k or more

CapybaraFanMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Jul 6, 2020, 5:28 PM#114

Ooch, was doing great, then this hand

Straddled to $40 in MP, guy with 3k raises to $185

We are on button with $1900 and repot to $635 or 685, whatever it was, with :ad::as::td::9h:

He cold calls, flop is :th::5d::6c: and he bets $650 into me. I block top set, there's no flush draws and I have a hard time putting him on a straight draw type hand that calls pre, plus I have the 9 blocker for those rundowns as well

I get it in, board pairs 5, then pairs 6, he shows QJTT

Ooch

Apologies in advance for strat discussion of a big hand just lost. I'll assume you're open to it since you're posting the HH.

This hand might be worth a separate strategy post. I think this a fold on the flop. When a villain flats a PSB OOP pre and leads this flop, a big part of his range includes rundowns that make at least one pair, often two. Assuming this is a decent game, many people will be flatting with middle rundowns OOP imo.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 6, 2020, 5:32 PM#115

Apologies in advance for strat discussion of a big hand just lost. I'll assume you're open to it since you're posting the HH.

This hand might be worth a separate strategy post. I think this a fold on the flop. When a villain flats a PSB OOP pre and leads the flop, a big part of his range includes rundowns that make at least one pair on this flop. Assuming this is a decent game, many people will be flatting with middle rundowns OOP imo.

The SPR in that spot going to the flop was essentially 1:1

I block top set, I have the 9 which is part of the rundowns, and hard to see someone calling off half my stack OOP with a hand that hits the 56 rundown there

I mean, maybe 89TJ or QJ98 for the gutshot

I figured he might have KKxx or the other Aces, that flop looks favorable

But once he donks the flop there's like 2k and I have to call off my 1300 or whatever, flop looks good for my hand. I still think I get it in there

He's playing shit like 9952 double s00ted now to raises, so will just be patient and catch him at some point

CapybaraFanMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Jul 6, 2020, 5:46 PM#116

The SPR in that spot going to the flop was essentially 1:1

I block top set, I have the 9 which is part of the rundowns, and hard to see someone calling off half my stack OOP with a hand that hits the 56 rundown there

I mean, maybe 89TJ or QJ98 for the gutshot

I figured he might have KKxx or the other Aces, that flop looks favorable

But once he donks the flop there's like 2k and I have to call off my 1300 or whatever, flop looks good for my hand. I still think I get it in there

He's playing shit like 9952 double s00ted now to raises, so will just be patient and catch him at some point

I hear you on all of the above. I guess my experience is different at these stakes. I would expect KKxx to check the flop unless it's something like KKQJ giving him the high straight draw. I've also seen many people (basically all rec players) raise/call middle rundowns and worse (as evidenced by the fact that you say he's playing 9952).

Perhaps it's just a player pool difference. I'm sure know your local players' tendencies better than I can reading HHs on the internet. If he's the kind of guy who would donk KKxx there, I'm sure you'll get it back. Good luck and great thread!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 6, 2020, 5:48 PM#117

I hear you on all of the above. I guess my experience is different at these stakes. I would expect KKxx to check the flop unless it's something like KKQJ giving him the high straight draw. I've also seen many people (basically all rec players) raise/call middle rundowns and worse (as evidenced by the fact that you say he's playing 9952).

Perhaps it's just a player pool difference. I'm sure know your local players' tendencies better than I can reading HHs on the internet. If he's the kind of guy who would donk KKxx there, I'm sure you'll get it back. Good luck and great thread!

Never played him before, but he is Asian so gotta give him less credit for hands

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 12, 2020, 12:27 AM#118

Lost $800 playing Pot-Limit Omaha today in the poker room

Was death by 1,000 cuts, just a slow bleed, $50 here, $70 there. Made 2nd nuts, lose to 1st nuts. Make nuts on turn, outdrawn on river, etc

But fortunately the Seminoles gave back and got me unstuck with video poker

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 12, 2020, 1:07 AM#119

Oh, forgot to mention today was the 1st time I've ever bought another man a massage

He had 22xx and flopped 229 in PLO which SHOULD qualify for high hand (which was $500 today)

However, the river was an Ace and the floor ruled the language in their rules states "best hand" so since his hand changed on the river he no longer qualified!

In the past they'd put 22229 on the board. I created a stink about in multiple online poker groups, they saw it and ran it up the ladder to the poker director who will get it clarified so the turn and river can't fuck our high hands, but will be next month when it changes

Felt bad for the guy, I got a 20 minute massage from my favorite girl and then paid for him to get a 20 minute one as well

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 2:15 PM#120

Lol, first hand at 1/2/5 PLO we are 4 handed and get it all-in on flop for $600

Me: :ad::kd::9h::7s:

Villain: :js::tc::9d::6d:

FLOP: :kc::td::8d:

First board: :7c::6s:

Second board: :7d::3c:

I get scooped lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 2:35 PM#121

Just a 70% favorite and lose both boards lol

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 2:50 PM#122

Lol, first hand at 1/2/5 PLO we are 4 handed and get it all-in on flop for $600

Me: :ad::kd::9h::7s:

Villain: :js::tc::9d::6d:

FLOP: :kc::td::8d:

First board: :7c::6s:

Second board: :7d::3c:

I get scooped lol

Curious, why is AdKd9h7s a hand you get stacks in preflop?

Edit - sorry, missed that it was on the flop.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 2:51 PM#123

Curious, why is AdKd9h7s a hand you get stacks in preflop?

It was on the flop I got it in. We are 4 handed, I have TPTK, open ended straight draw and nfd

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 2:51 PM#124

Curious, why is AdKd9h7s a hand you get stacks in preflop?

All in on the flop according to the post.

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 3:43 PM#125

Oh, forgot to mention today was the 1st time I've ever bought another man a massage

He had 22xx and flopped 229 in PLO which SHOULD qualify for high hand (which was $500 today)

However, the river was an Ace and the floor ruled the language in their rules states "best hand" so since his hand changed on the river he no longer qualified!

In the past they'd put 22229 on the board. I created a stink about in multiple online poker groups, they saw it and ran it up the ladder to the poker director who will get it clarified so the turn and river can't fuck our high hands, but will be next month when it changes

Felt bad for the guy, I got a 20 minute massage from my favorite girl and then paid for him to get a 20 minute one as well

I don't get why the high hand wasn't just 2222A. So you have to flop it to qualify under current rules?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 3:48 PM#126

I don't get why the high hand wasn't just 2222A. So you have to flop it to qualify under current rules?

Yes, in PLO we can't make our high hand on the turn or river, we HAVE to flop it.

So that means the turn or river shouldn't change our qualifying flopped high hand

We still count river for showdown, but 22229 should go on high hand board

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 4:54 PM#127

Called a $10 straddle, repotted to $215 after someone raised and I have :ac::kc::kh::qh:

Get called in THREE spots and flop comes :2h::6c::7d:

We check to original raiser who shoves his last $185

One fold, I call, LP calls

Turn :7c:

We both check

River :4c:

I check, he checks behind, I'm good

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 5:03 PM#128

Lol, first hand at 1/2/5 PLO we are 4 handed and get it all-in on flop for $600

Me: :ad::kd::9h::7s:

Villain: :js::tc::9d::6d:

FLOP: :kc::td::8d:

First board: :7c::6s:

Second board: :7d::3c:

I get scooped lol

JFC thats an absurdly bad runout

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 5:46 PM#129

It was on the flop I got it in. We are 4 handed, I have TPTK, open ended straight draw and nfd

With that flop and that hand my car keys are going into the pot...... and Looks like I walking home.

gopherblueRegular25 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 5:50 PM#130

Saoliver would love to see the return of Nooker.

Respekt for an allusion to something that I believe was before your time.... :tup:

Psypher1000Micro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 6:32 PM#131

I try to rollerskate once every week or two as well, which I enjoy and I'm quite good at.

This is the most important part of the OP.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 6:40 PM#132

This is the most important part of the OP.

As long as he is rollerskating dressed like this:

...then I am in full support of the hilarity.

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 6:51 PM#133

Respekt for an allusion to something that I believe was before your time.... :tup:

I was a lurker at the Blue Wall (even had a few posts) and here for a long time. And I love going down the rabbit holes of old threads. :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 7:24 PM#134

In for $1,800 and about to leave, got unstuck at least

Psypher1000Micro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2020, 11:07 PM#135

As long as he is rollerskating dressed like this:

View attachment 490671 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/490671/)

...then I am in full support of the hilarity.

That’s why I said it’s the most important part. If he goes missing, we’ll know to hit up Richard Simmons’ place first to look for him.

mattross1313Micro-Stakes Grinder17 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 8:51 AM#136

I check, he checks behind, I'm good

Hey Anthony, I've enjoyed reading your posts here - have a quick question on the hand above. I've only really dabbled with PLO just a few small cash games online.

With this hand you both check it down to the river and you win the with A flush. Did you check this down as another player was already all in and it's etiquette? Or does the paired board put the potential of a full house, hence the check?

Appreciate it :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 10:28 AM#137

Hey Anthony, I've enjoyed reading your posts here - have a quick question on the hand above. I've only really dabbled with PLO just a few small cash games online.

With this hand you both check it down to the river and you win the with A flush. Did you check this down as another player was already all in and it's etiquette? Or does the paired board put the potential of a full house, hence the check?

Appreciate it :)

I check because of the full house. If I lead and get repopped I'm not going to like it

Plus, the player I checked to is capable of bluffing in this spot, so I keep his bluffs in and make more money with check-call, and I limit my loss when I'm behind

As it happened, he made a non-nut straight on a paired and flushing board, but didn't fire any extra shells when I gave him the rope

mattross1313Micro-Stakes Grinder17 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 10:51 AM#138

I check because of the full house. If I lead and get repopped I'm not going to like it

Plus, the player I checked to is capable of bluffing in this spot, so I keep his bluffs in and make more money with check-call, and I limit my loss when I'm behind

As it happened, he made a non-nut straight on a paired and flushing board, but didn't fire any extra shells when I gave him the rope

Makes sense, thanks for the details :) I'm hoping to play more PLO in the future so will be keeping an eye here for tips :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 12:50 PM#139

Looks like Fireman Scott is trying to sell himself again by making you think he's playing a $40,000 real money pot, but pretty sure these are tournament chips. Notice in the video he says $40K pot, putting the dollar sign to make you think he's so amazing hitting a river gutshot AND trying to make it look like REAL money.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2783444755313775&id=2360112860980302

But after checking the pictures from this particular club, their cash chips have white inlays and the tournament chips have dark inlays, and the video all the chips have dark inlays...

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 1:12 PM#140

Looks like Fireman Scott is trying to sell himself again by making you think he's playing a $40,000 real money pot, but pretty sure these are tournament chips. Notice in the video he says $40K pot, putting the dollar sign to make you think he's so amazing hitting a river gutshot AND trying to make it look like REAL money.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2783444755313775&id=2360112860980302

But after checking the pictures from this particular club, their cash chips have white inlays and the tournament chips have dark inlays, and the video all the chips have dark inlays...

View attachment 491209 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/491209/)View attachment 491210 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/491210/)

If you watch the TCH live streams from Austin, the chips have dark inlays. They use Calysmith chips with changed inlays. These look like the cash chips except that the black chip doesn't look quite right in the video. I could go either way here.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 1:41 PM#141

If you watch the TCH live streams from Austin, the chips have dark inlays. They use Calysmith chips with changed inlays. These look like the cash chips except that the black chip doesn't look quite right in the video. I could go either way here.

Given the hands he plays, I doubt he is anywhere near rolled to be playing 40k real money pots.

He won a 100k bbj awhile back which is where he got the money to chase all his gutshots, but long-term with his playstyle and hand-selection he's destined to go busto.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 6:15 PM#142

If you watch the TCH live streams from Austin, the chips have dark inlays. They use Calysmith chips with changed inlays. These look like the cash chips except that the black chip doesn't look quite right in the video. I could go either way here.

Well, I may be wrong. He says the room rented chips from TCH for this private game and here are the cash chips from TCH which match up. I was looking for the room that matched the table in the video, which is what threw me off because the chips and table are from two different locations

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 6:18 PM#143

Well, I may be wrong. He says the room rented chips from TCH for this private game and here are the cash chips from TCH which match up. I was looking for the room that matched the table in the video, which is what threw me off because the chips and table are from two different locations

View attachment 491339 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/491339/)

Rented chips and table from TCH? ROFL! They are playing like 25/50 PLO and have to rent the stuff!

:ROFL: :ROFLMAO::ROFL: :ROFLMAO::ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 11:24 PM#144

Just placed my Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/?tag=amznpcfx-20) order. Getting some props, costume stuff, a backdrop and stand, 4K webcam, etc.

My plan is to use some of my free time to produce videos of me playing first-person shooters, but in "character" and trying to make it entertaining more than about my skill level.

To start I'll focus on building a Youtube channel. This will permit me to polish my footage, make sure the humor gets delivered correctly and just deliver focused entertainment.

Over time if it does well enough I'll look to branch into a dedicated Twitch channel with live-streaming and a consistent schedule. Given all the "noise" on Twitch and the level of competition for viewers, I think it'll be easier to get noticed producing to Youtube first, and branching out into live streaming after.

I may even consider adding in some online poker to the mix, but haven't decided if that will be in character or just me.

Will play around with both OBS and Streamlabs and figure out which one I want to use for all of this, but pretty excited to add this into the mix as well.

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 14, 2020, 11:29 PM#145

Just placed my Amazon order. Getting some props, costume stuff, a backdrop and stand, 4K webcam, etc.

My plan is to use some of my free time to produce videos of me playing first-person shooters, but in "character" and trying to make it entertaining more than about my skill level.

To start I'll focus on building a Youtube channel. This will permit me to polish my footage, make sure the humor gets delivered correctly and just deliver focused entertainment.

Over time if it does well enough I'll look to branch into a dedicated Twitch channel with live-streaming and a consistent schedule. Given all the "noise" on Twitch and the level of competition for viewers, I think it'll be easier to get noticed producing to Youtube first, and branching out into live streaming after.

I may even consider adding in some online poker to the mix, but haven't decided if that will be in character or just me.

Will play around with both OBS and Streamlabs and figure out which one I want to use for all of this, but pretty excited to add this into the mix as well.

GL sir. I'll subscribe and give you a hard time in chat.

boellerNewbie2 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2020, 7:03 AM#146

i'd just stream on both plattforms if your bandwith is high enough. As you need to get certain levels of activity before getting revenue out of it.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2020, 10:10 AM#147

i'd just stream on both plattforms if your bandwith is high enough. As you need to get certain levels of activity before getting revenue out of it.

My internet upload speed is plenty fast. But I am on an older I5 7600k quad core, 16gb RAM, 512gb western digital black M.2 SSD and an 8gb EVGA GTX 1080

I was planning at the end of this year to build a new system with at least 12 cores. There are supposed to be new cpu's and gpu's at the end of the year, so doesn't make sense to buy anything now.

As far as jumping into streaming, I want to do pre-recorded videos first, where I can control the footage, make it polished, plus build an audience, before I jump into live-streaming down the road.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2020, 11:51 AM#148

Poker, in character, but 3rd person. That could be epic, and a poker video I would actually watch.

boellerNewbie2 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2020, 11:51 AM#149

My internet upload speed is plenty fast. But I am on an older I5 7600k quad core, 16gb RAM, 512gb western digital black M.2 SSD and an 8gb EVGA GTX 1080

I was planning at the end of this year to build a new system with at least 12 cores. There are supposed to be new cpu's and gpu's at the end of the year, so doesn't make sense to buy anything now.

As far as jumping into streaming, I want to do pre-recorded videos first, where I can control the footage, make it polished, plus build an audience, before I jump into live-streaming down the road.

Your computer sounds still good enough, esp. without direct live streaming. :wow:

What games are you on atm?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2020, 12:34 PM#150

Your computer sounds still good enough, esp. without direct live streaming. :wow:

What games are you on atm?

I'm actually not playing any FPS right now. I used to play Battlefield 3 and 4, but after years Punkbuster false flagged me for a hack (believe it's related to software I use to control lights inside my PC) and I was perma-banned by Punkbuster so couldn't play on any ranked servers

I tried their appeal process. They couldn't tell me what hack I was accused of, only that my account was flagged and my only option was to buy the games under a new account and start all over again unlocking everything and ranking up.

At the time my k/d ratio was decent, but nothing special. But my w/l ratio was in the top 1% in the world. Typically played 64-player Conquest matches on hardcore mode (i.e. you can't get shot 100 fucking times and still live, also, fuck bunny hoppers!)

So the object was to control points on the map and whittle your opponents tickets to 0. I was VERY good at the strategic element of it, knowing the maps, which flags were crucial to hold and the flow of battle, where to strike or counter an enemy push, what is likely to be undefended, etc.

I prefered the engineer class and maps with vehicles, tanks and choppers. I think my biggest killstreak was in the 40's or something, probably as a gunner in a chopper, but got to look up my old stats

Right now I'm playing Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord and fired up XCOM 2: War of the Chosen (finished the base game but not War of the Chosen before)

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2020, 12:42 PM#152

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf4/stats/pc/Jennhkfan

So looks like I won almost 83% of matches and my kill streak was 30 people in a row before I died.

Thats BF4, still looking for BF3

I basically only watch Magic and some occasional speed runners. What are the big streamers playing these days anyway?

Is it Hearthstone Battlegrounds?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2020, 12:45 PM#153

I basically only watch Magic and some occasional speed runners. What are the big streamers playing these days anyway?

Is it Hearthstone Battlegrounds?

The big streaming games are Fortnite, Valorant, Apex Legends, League of Legends, Call of Duty, etc

My approach will be games I enjoy. I may be playing a fake character on stream, but don't want to play anything I don't have a passion for except maybe as a one-off

MegaTon44Micro-Stakes Grinder22 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2020, 12:51 PM#154

Plans to come in and fuck with the 43 year old man who plays video games and wants to become a YouTuber....

Then realizes he's a 38 year old man who has 40k poker chips.

Carry on Anthony. Good luck brother!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 16, 2020, 6:38 PM#155

Looks like Call of Duty Warzone is pretty popular right now, and free to play, with decent graphics, none of that Fortnite kiddie shit

Downloaded it this morning and will check it out. I played COD many years ago and had fun, but prefered the Battlefield series at the time with their larger player counts and vehicles, destructible terrain, etc

ruskbaRegular32 posts
Posted Jul 16, 2020, 7:01 PM#156

Looks like Call of Duty Warzone is pretty popular right now, and free to play, with decent graphics, none of that Fortnite kiddie shit

Downloaded it this morning and will check it out. I played COD many years ago and had fun, but prefered the Battlefield series at the time with their larger player counts and vehicles, destructible terrain, etc

View attachment 492695 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/492695/)

I just bought a PC a couple days ago, haven't gamed in 15 or so years. Downloaded this last night and did the training stuff, feels weird being a complete noob at 34 years old. But I think it should be fun.

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 16, 2020, 9:22 PM#157

I just bought a PC a couple days ago, haven't gamed in 15 or so years. Downloaded this last night and did the training stuff, feels weird being a complete noob at 34 years old. But I think it should be fun.

I gave up on fps games after Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament Though I was a pioneer in Team Fortress back when it was a Quake 2 mod... Or was it Quake 3. Jesus I feel old at 39.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 16, 2020, 9:26 PM#158

I gave up on fps games after Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament Though I was a pioneer in Team Fortress back when it was a Quake 2 mod... Or was it Quake 3. Jesus I feel old at 39.

LOVED Unreal Tournament, used to play at LAN Parties with friends.

Never cared for Quake though

There was a really fun Jedi one where you could use blasters and lightsabers, plus force powers while fighting in a team deathmatch that was a blast, but can't rememver the name

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 17, 2020, 5:52 AM#159

Been on a downswing lately, changing up the hours to play at the best times. Got droolers stacking off preflop with T644 and other garbage

In for $500 at 1/2 PLO

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 17, 2020, 7:00 AM#160

Just as Poker Jeezus envisioned

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 17, 2020, 4:02 PM#161

hilarious last night. Had a fish CALL a $240 bet on the turn, leaving himself $40 behind, and fold to my river jam (I flopped nut straight and top 2 pr on a 567 flop, there were 2 spades so likely chasing his flush)

In for $500 and out for $1,530. Actually been on a downswing this month. A number of big pots where I was a 70% favorite and still lost, a few spots where I'd have the nuts on flop or turn and they hit perfect river cards

Adjusted my schedule this week to play during the wee hours since they are more profitable.

Marc HedrickMicro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jul 17, 2020, 5:00 PM#162

hilarious last night. Had a fish CALL a $240 bet on the turn, leaving himself $40 behind, and fold to my river jam (I flopped nut straight and top 2 pr on a 567 flop, there were 2 spades so likely chasing his flush)

In for $500 and out for $1,530. Actually been on a downswing this month. A number of big pots where I was a 70% favorite and still lost, a few spots where I'd have the nuts on flop or turn and they hit perfect river cards

Adjusted my schedule this week to play during the wee hours since they are more profitable.

Always enjoy seeing your updates. Sounds like even with that downswing, you're results are just variance and you're still playing well and getting it in good. All things that could happen at any hour of the day. Just changing hours for a mental reset?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 17, 2020, 5:09 PM#163

Always enjoy seeing your updates. Sounds like even with that downswing, you're results are just variance and you're still playing well and getting it in good. All things that could happen at any hour of the day. Just changing hours for a mental reset?

The suckouts were primarily at Luckys which will remain a normal part of my schedule. But the games at the Hard Rock have just lacked action and had unfavorable lineups a lot, so switching my hours there to prey on the guys playing T644 for their stacks

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 6:58 AM#164

Little 2/5/10 PLO on the late night/early morning

3 tables running, the 1/2 PLO only has 1 table and it's 4 handed

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 7:40 AM#165

Lol, I have :ah::7h::7s::6d: on a flop of :3c::7s::9h: against a preflop raiser who pots it and another lady cold calls, I repop to $700 and cover both, they both call off

She has 4569 and he has 33xx

First board she makes a straight, 2nd board he hits the one outer quads lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 7:46 AM#166

Lol, I have :ah::7h::7s::6d: on a flop of :3c::7s::9h: against a preflop raiser who pots it and another lady cold calls, I repop to $700 and cover both, they both call off

She has 4569 and he has 33xx

First board she makes a straight, 2nd board he hits the one outer quads lol

I was about 50% equity three ways, guy with the 1 outer was 10%

Just need to have some hands hold and I will make a mint off these droolers

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 8:22 AM#167

Flop middle set on :ad::8h::7d: and lady with :5d::6d:xx chases and hits her flush, le sigh

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 10:18 AM#168

FINALLY!

Get dealt :ah::as::td::3h: in the BB

The button is $10 rock and SB makes it $25. I call, UTG raises to $125. Hijack and CO and SB all cold-call

I repot. UTG repots to $1900 and we get it headsup, he has :ac::kc::kd::9h:

He only goes once, we hold

Tarheel4LifeNewbie2 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 1:43 PM#169

Isn’t playing video poker and games in the casino outside of poker a huge leak for poker pros?

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 1:58 PM#170

Isn’t playing video poker and games in the casino outside of poker a huge leak for poker pros?

Video poker and table games give the house a mathematical advantage, making it a leak for everyone that plays - not just poker pros. If you enjoy it, calculate your expected loss per hour and have fun.

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 2:10 PM#171

Well that is one of my biggest problems. Grind out a 3k win at poker, then lose 10k at baccarat In 20 minutes on the way out. Or worse lose at poker go on tilt then head right for the bac table to make the situation worse. Done that many times.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 2:28 PM#172

My youthful experience was similar, but replace "baccarat" with "Bar that serves Johnnie Walker Blue".

Yay, I won $3000 $2000 $1000 I'm up $20, and the barmaid wants to take me home!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 2:38 PM#173

Isn’t playing video poker and games in the casino outside of poker a huge leak for poker pros?

If you're a degenerate it is. I don't crave action, and in the past, outside of freeplay I got from the casino, I didn't touch their machines

Some video poker games, if played optimally and with the right paytable, can actually give the player a tiny edge. And without the right paytable, the edge is still tiny for the house.

I earned my "Elite" card at the end of 2019, but they switched their system to not count poker in earning card tiers this year, only in earning comp dollars.

Despite that, prior to the Covid shutdown, I received regular offers of freeplay, giveaways, etc

Since the return I've gotten squat. So from time to time I will dable in video poker, which is helping me earn some tier points. Not sure if I'll be able to play enough to mantain my card level before the year is through, but overall I'm up around $1,200 in video poker and I don't go crazy with it.

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Jul 18, 2020, 4:04 PM#175

My youthful experience was similar, but replace "baccarat" with "Bar that serves Johnnie Walker Blue".

Yay, I won $3000 $2000 $1000 I'm up $20, and the barmaid wants to take me home!

My poker playing pays for my craps habit.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 19, 2020, 7:08 AM#176

In for $600 at 1/2 PLO and down to $463 when I get my seat in 2/5/10 PLO

First hand I am in BB with

:ah::ad::ts::6s:

CO is the rock, button calls, SB calls, I call, gets back to CO who raises another $50. Button calls, SB calls, I repot to $250, they ALL call!!!

Flop :th::td::5c:

Checked to me, I shove flop, CO and button fold, SB calls with a 5 in his hand

Turn :5s: river :2c: and we're good!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 19, 2020, 8:57 PM#177

HOLY SHIT DUDES!

So I'm playing three tables of PLO and Big O online. This hand comes up where I turn quad Jacks, river brings a flush, I bet, get raised and then see the pot shipped to my opponent.

I do a double take to make sure I had quad Jacks, and then see he rivered a straight flush. My anger turns to joy when I realize we just hit the BBJ that's been growing for awhile and sits at $2,275

That joy turns to Elation because they DOUBLE the jackpot Fri-Sun so my 50% share as the loser of the hand is $2,275!!! The winner of the hand gets 25% and the table shares the other 25%

They paid me within 10 minutes of me sending the screenshot. I've never been so happy to lose with quads in my life, glad I didn't bet the turn!

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 12:17 AM#178

HOLY SHIT DUDES!

So I'm playing three tables of PLO and Big O online. This hand comes up where I turn quad Jacks, river brings a flush, I bet, get raised and then see the pot shipped to my opponent.

I do a double take to make sure I had quad Jacks, and then see he rivered a straight flush. My anger turns to joy when I realize we just hit the BBJ that's been growing for awhile and sits at $2,275

That joy turns to Elation because they DOUBLE the jackpot Fri-Sun so my 50% share as the loser of the hand is $2,275!!! The winner of the hand gets 25% and the table shares the other 25%

They paid me within 10 minutes of me sending the screenshot. I've never been so happy to lose with quads in my life, glad I didn't bet the turn!

View attachment 494439 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/494439/)

Congrats. I couldn’t find any info on Fox. How do you join? Or is it a private room?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 12:25 AM#179

Congrats. I couldn’t find any info on Fox. How do you join? Or is it a private room?

the same software that Craigt78 uses for his Windy Crest Poker Room.

This one is called Fox Poker. There is a Facebook group called RealGrinders and then the one for Fox Poker is called 3 Stacks of High Society

They do rakeback too, and never had any issues with deposits or cashouts.

It's no Pokerstars level of traffic, but they get decent traffic for cash and tournaments

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 12:43 PM#180

the same software that Craigt78 uses for his Windy Crest Poker Room.

This one is called Fox Poker. There is a Facebook group called RealGrinders and then the one for Fox Poker is called 3 Stacks of High Society

They do rakeback too, and never had any issues with deposits or cashouts.

It's no Pokerstars level of traffic, but they get decent traffic for cash and tournaments

I'm on there too occasionally. About 150-300 players during peak times. I've found the cash games, especially NLHE, to be very reg infested. There are a few guys that basically play every table available of all the stakes. And they are decent.

The tournament players... Well... They're special.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 12:46 PM#181

I'm on there too occasionally. About 150-300 players during peak times. I've found the cash games, especially NLHE, to be very reg infested. There are a few guys that basically play every table available of all the stakes. And they are decent.

The tournament players... Well... They're special.

I don't play the hold em cash games. I haven't played a ton of tourneys, but felt the fields were pretty soft in the ones I did and have cashed and final tabled multiple times in NLHE, PLO and Big O tourneys

And then the PLO, PLO5 and Big O games have been pretty good. Definitly more droolers than decent players.

Glad I didn't lose the quad Jacks in the 5-card PLO cause then the qualifier jumps from quad 9's to quad Queens and I would've been pissed lol

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 12:50 PM#182

I don't play the hold em cash games. I haven't played a ton of tourneys, but felt the fields were pretty soft in the ones I did and have cashed and final tabled multiple times in NLHE, PLO and Big O tourneys

And then the PLO, PLO5 and Big O games have been pretty good. Definetly more droolers than decent players.

Glad I didn't lose the quad Jacks in the 5-card PLO cause then the qualifier jumps from quad 9's to quad Queens and I would've been pissed lol

I don't really have the time to play on there these days. I was down to like $32 before my wife smashed those micro tournies yesterday. I may stab at the Big O games. Just nit it up. Hard to lose big in that game if you play snug. Most people just gladly want to get quartered. I'll keep stabbing at tournies when I have the time.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 2:38 PM#183

Running well early in the 1/2/5 game

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 5:09 PM#184

Keeping it growing in the straddle game

Av8tionMicro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 5:39 PM#185

are there two types of 25s in that stack? the colors look off... slightly tilting...

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 5:56 PM#186

are there two types of 25s in that stack? the colors look off... slightly tilting...

He's actually playing 1/2 FL and just did a bad job of recoloring in Photoshop.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 20, 2020, 6:02 PM#187

are there two types of 25s in that stack? the colors look off... slightly tilting...

Yes there are

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 21, 2020, 2:32 AM#188

So just an update. I've adjusted my poker work schedule to be Fri-Mon

And then off Tues-Thurs

My "free" time is spent catching up on errands, quality time with the family, and working on my youtube and hopefully eventually streaming project

I've gotten in the vast majority of my costume and props. I've been playing Battle Royal Solos in Call of Duty Warzone and have made it into the final 10 and even top 5 out of 150 players

I still have a long way to go improving my skills. And I think I'll do better playing on teams of 3 or 4 people in the future, as I was always squadded up in Battlefield games

Going to get some testing done with footage this week. Have pages and pages of jokes, one-liners and other stuff for the videos. Planning to have a finished first video within a months time

Also was doing some research and found that there are three big streamers in the Tampa area, including one who lives jyst a few miles down the street in my town!!!

I reached out to him on Facebook, no idea if I'll have any luck, but if you don't try you've already lost.

Anyway, I spoke with some folks here in private already, but here is the concept

I'll dress up in my crazy 4th of July outfit, this time with a fake beard. And when I play games I will adopt the persona of a super right-wing flat-earther conspiracy nut

He REFUSES to play a medic in game because he doesn't believe in socialized medicine. If a teammate goes to revive a downed ally he'll say we shouldn't heal them, we should pray for them, etc

He believes 'Murica' is #1 in EVERYTHING and he'll back it up with "facts" like how we're #1 in infant obesity, teen pregnancy, feline leukemia. There's NOTHING Americans don't do better than anyone else in the world!

Anyway, it's something I know I can have a lot of fun with, I have years of experience acting like an idiot.

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 AM#189

So just an update. I've adjusted my poker work schedule to be Fri-Mon

And then off Tues-Thurs

My "free" time is spent catching up on errands, quality time with the family, and working on my youtube and hopefully eventually streaming project

I've gotten in the vast majority of my costume and props. I've been playing Battle Royal Solos in Call of Duty Warzone and have made it into the final 10 and even top 5 out of 150 players

I still have a long way to go improving my skills. And I think I'll do better playing on teams of 3 or 4 people in the future, as I was always squadded up in Battlefield games

Going to get some testing done with footage this week. Have pages and pages of jokes, one-liners and other stuff for the videos. Planning to have a finished first video within a months time

Also was doing some research and found that there are three big streamers in the Tampa area, including one who lives jyst a few miles down the street in my town!!!

I reached out to him on Facebook, no idea if I'll have any luck, but if you don't try you've already lost.

Anyway, I spoke with some folks here in private already, but here is the concept

I'll dress up in my crazy 4th of July outfit, this time with a fake beard. And when I play games I will adopt the persona of a super right-wing flat-earther conspiracy nut

He REFUSES to play a medic in game because he doesn't believe in socialized medicine. If a teammate goes to revive a downed ally he'll say we shouldn't heal them, we should pray for them, etc

He believes 'Murica' is #1 in EVERYTHING and he'll back it up with "facts" like how we're #1 in infant obesity, teen pregnancy, feline leukemia. There's NOTHING Americans don't do better than anyone else in the world!

Anyway, it's something I know I can have a lot of fun with, I have years of experience acting like an idiot.

View attachment 495191 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/495191/)

sounds funny. Like you can be the Ryan DePaulo of gamers.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 AM#190

sounds funny. Like you can be the Ryan DePaulo of gamers.

PARKOOOUUURRR! Also, Joey is still a fucking Mush!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 8:40 AM#191

Updated graph by session, we've broken free of the downswing and are climbing again

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 6:47 PM#192

Updated graph by session, we've broken free of the downswing and are climbing again

View attachment 495853 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/495853/)

Looks like the graph of my enjoyment in being a father.

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 8:38 PM#193

Looks like the graph of my enjoyment in being a father.

Haha. Wait until he/she is a teenager......

mattross1313Micro-Stakes Grinder17 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 8:47 PM#194

Haha. Wait until he/she is a teenager......

You guys aren't helping our future plans here :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 8:52 PM#195

You guys aren't helping our future plans here :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Our first (now 4) was great until 3, then terrible for a while, now good again.

Our 2nd, now 3mo, hates everything. Wants to constantly be looked at. And the instant he is lied down anywhere but in our arms, instant wakes up and makes you regret everything about your life.

One Eyed DollarMicro-Stakes Grinder16 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 9:04 PM#196

Our first (now 4) was great until 3, then terrible for a while, now good again.

Our 2nd, now 3mo, hates everything. Wants to constantly be looked at. And the instant he is lied down anywhere but in our arms, instant wakes up and makes you regret everything about your life.

My daughter, our 2nd, cried all the damn time. People told us "oh, she'll stop after 2 weeks." Then it was "after a month." Then it was 2 months. We used to joke about that, like 2 years in... "oh, she'll stop crying after a few weeks!" Hahahahaha stabs ears with pencils :dead:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 9:49 PM#197

I'll stick with my 3 cats, Jenn and I don't want the extra costs and stress of children.

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 10:08 PM#198

My 18 yr old son literally eats everything in the house (Even the stuff I try to hide), my 20 yr old daughter gets $200 haircuts..... enough said.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 10:23 PM#199

Got my webcam setup today. Went with the Logitech Brio 4k Ultra HD and I have the Logitech G Pro X Gaming Headset with Blue Voice Technology on the way as well.

Was looking at the Blue Yeti X microphone, but currently prices are through the fucking roof (like double MSRP) and I'd also need to buy a desk mount with shock case, etc. The gaming headset uses similar tech but shouldn't be as quick to pickup outside noises and will be easier to setup just starting out.

Downloaded Streamlabs software and paid to upgrade to Premium so I could snag this cool theme that will fit with what I'm trying to do, aptly named "Murica"

Did some testing today while playing Warzone and had some issues with my system losing frames during video capture (wasn't streaming online, just recording to my SSD)

So going to have to mess with layouts and settings to figure it out. Currently I'm using:

Intel Core i5-7600k quad core

16GB Gskill Trident Z RGB DDR4 3200

2 x Western Digital 500GB M.2 SSD's

EVGA Geforce GTX 1080 8GB

Was planning to build a new system at the end of the year, as there are new graphics cards and cpu's on the horizon. And since I'm just doing video capture for now to make edited videos, rather than the stress of live-streaming anything, I'm hoping I can finangle the settings in Streamlabs so I can still get good quality footage and make what I'm trying to make while I hold out for new hardware.

I could just get a new motherboard and the Ryzen 9 3900x 12-core CPU which is pretty reasonably priced, but seems silly with new tech coming by the end of the year, so hoping to hold out. Eventually may need to go with a dual-PC setup where one system is dedicated to streaming and the other for the gaming, but that's further down the road if needed.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 10:40 PM#200

I'm just pleased as punch that you have not only shifted into the world of full-time poker pro, but you are apparently maintaining your standard of living - i.e. geeking out on computer builds.

Way too often, I've looked in at Poker Pro vlogs, and while they might be making a living, their living appears to be somewhere between squalor and shit. You are sticking to what you love, and that is how you win in the game of life.

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 10:56 PM#201

Can you explain how the rock works? It seems to be in a different position all the time?

Your cats and wife must have been like WTF is going on as you shifted to joy, anger, joy, JOY after the BBJ hit.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 11:21 PM#202

I'm just pleased as punch that you have not only shifted into the world of full-time poker pro, but you are apparently maintaining your standard of living - i.e. geeking out on computer builds.

Way too often, I've looked in at Poker Pro vlogs, and while they might be making a living, their living appears to be somewhere between squalor and shit. You are sticking to what you love, and that is how you win in the game of life.

I enjoy videogames, been playing all my life, plus some of those streamers are making stupid money. That guy that lives just a few miles away from me has a home estimated at $1.5 million! He's got a sick-ass streaming room setup too, has a video he recently posted online. King Gothalian or something like that.

Shit, if I could make bank doing the streaming thing I'd likely find time to just TERRORIZE the PLO games and become a super LAG and put people in lots of tough spots and have more fun with it. Not that I don't enjoy being patient and getting paid off, but who are we kidding, LAGS have more fun :P

Can you explain how the rock works? It seems to be in a different position all the time?

Your cats and wife must have been like WTF is going on as you shifted to joy, anger, joy, JOY after the BBJ hit.

There isn't a rock in the online game I was playing. If you're asking about the live 2/5 game with a $10 rock, the winner of the previous hand posts the $10 rock as a mandatory straddle, and action begins to their left, with them having last-action pre-flop. There are no other straddles permitted.

upNdownShark114 posts
Posted Jul 22, 2020, 11:55 PM#203

I can’t tell you what to do on your own thread about your journey as a professional poker player. I’ve enjoyed all the Omaha talk and the highs and the lows, and I’m rooting for you.

But this video game talk is annoying.

12thManMicro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jul 23, 2020, 12:17 AM#204

Is that the way a “rock” game is always played? I playEd in one occasionally when Tulalip still spread poker where the “rock” was always what would normally be utg. Basically a third blind. (1/3/5 , I’m a low roller :D )

just wondering if this is a regional thing or if what we were playing was not actually a rock game and more so just a third blind or something?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 23, 2020, 12:17 AM#205

I can’t tell you what to do on your own thread about your journey as a professional poker player. I’ve enjoyed all the Omaha talk and the highs and the lows, and I’m rooting for you.

But this video game talk is annoying.

Well, I guess look at it as an extension of what I'm already doing. A number of poker professionals came from gaming backgrounds where they excelled in things like Chess, Magic The Gathering, etc.

Many pros also develop alternative revenue streams. Whether that's rental properties, coaching or other interests that produce additional income or even eventually turn poker into a side income for them rather than primary.

Don't get me wrong, I'm VERY happy with my hourly rate in the PLO games compared to when I was working for "the man". But it's also sucked some of the fun and escape that poker was out of the game as well.

But I look at some of the successful streamers out there and they're bringing in high five-figures or low six-figures A MONTH! I don't want to get overexcited over it, I realize it's an extremely competitive market and it will be a tough nut to crack. But I already play video games as it is in my off time away from the tables. I might as well try to monetize it. Shit, if I could monetize sleeping I'd do that too, lol!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 23, 2020, 12:20 AM#206

ndering if this is a regional thing or if what we were playing was not actually a rock

Is that the way a “rock” game is always played? I playEd in one occasionally when Tulalip still spread poker where the “rock” was always what would normally be utg. Basically a third blind. (1/3/5 , I’m a low roller :D )

just wondering if this is a regional thing or if what we were playing was not actually a rock game and more so just a third blind or something?

The rock thing was brand new to me last September. I play in a game where the button has to post a mandatory $5 straddle so the game is 1/2/5 and it allows unlimited restraddles.

There may be other variations I'm unfamiliar with, not sure if your game would just be considered a "3 blind game"? But I'm sure it generates additional action because there's more up for grabs to start each hand

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Jul 23, 2020, 12:54 AM#207

The rock just sounds like a weird kill.

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Jul 23, 2020, 1:10 AM#208

I'll stick with my 3 cats, Jenn and I don't want the extra costs and stress of children.

Well, he would be taller then you by seven.... Sooooo, it's prob a good call.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 23, 2020, 8:05 PM#209

Alright, found a work-around for my system resource problem and dropped frames. The quality of my footage is very important, and my current system alone just can't handle running the game, streaming software and capturing footage of me and the game and two sets of audio at the same time without either turning quality down to shit or losing tons of frames and having frozen footage throughout.

So for now I'll use Nvidia's recording feature to record just game footage. Then I'll use Streamlabs to record just me in costume reacting "in-game" with one-liners and so forth.

I can then take both sets of video clips and put them into my VideoPad editing software and combine them to look like a seamless "streaming" clip. This way I can maintain the 2K format of the video so the clips look good and not blurry or grainy.

My "time off" is at an end today, going to bed early tonight and back at the tables early a.m. to catch the tired and stuck folks. Playing Fri, Sat and Sun. Have to take Monday off since Jenn has a dental appointment, so going to miss out on the crazies at Lucky's but they aren't going anywhere.

In other news, I've been working on practicing my kindness. I really think the world is lacking in it a lot lately and I've been trying to do my part.

First up was the guy at the Hard Rock who got screwed out of the high hand payout in our PLO game. He flopped quad 2's with a 9 kicker, but when the river was an Ace they said they had to use his highest hand and since that wasn't on the flop his hand no longer qualified. In the past they would just put up on the board the flopped kicker. They're going to correct it next month so the turn and river can't fuck our high hands, but in the interim the dude was out $500. I paid for a 20 minute massage for him (my first time ever buying another dude a massage, lol)

Then I live on a shared driveway with two other homes, and I'm friendly with my neighbors. I noticed the husband in the first home on the driveway was wearing some kinda back support thing and moving around with a walker. He always does their lawn and I felt bad for them so one morning I just mowed their acre lawn instead of going to the gym.

And finally a few days ago went to pickup a takeout pizza and overheard two delivery drivers as they passed one another inside the restaurant say "I just got stiffed" and the other said "me too". There was a tip box at the counter and I had already put a couple bucks in for my $12 pizza. I asked the staff there if the tips in the box were split with everyone including the drivers and they said they were. So I took out two $10 bills and dropped those in as well. One of them yelled back at the kitchen staff "this better be the best damned pizza you've ever made in your life!"

But it felt good to be in a position to do something nice for people, the world could definitely use a little more kindness these days. And hell, the universe seems to be paying me back. The guy I bought the massage for has doubled me up twice in two different sessions and I hit that $2,275 BBJ the other day, my downswing has turned into an upswing as we close in on the end of the month and I pulled out of the negative and back into the positive, so can't complain about that.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 24, 2020, 5:22 AM#210

2/5/10 PLO at 1am, LFG!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 24, 2020, 5:40 AM#211

Game is looking good, got a guy limping UTG with 9744 and another betting a straight on a flushed board, another limping TT83

Just gotta run pure and I should do well

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 24, 2020, 7:34 AM#212

Limped :as::ah::qs::qd: in EP, fish in LP makes it 70. I just call since I'm fairly deep and don't want to give away my hand

Flop is :qc::6c::5s:

Original raiser bets $200, EP is all-in for $125. I repot to $1,185. Everyone folds and we go twice. I boat on first board and hold on 2nd board, he shows :9s::9c::7d::4c: and we scoop a nice pot

Earlier I made queens full and ran into quad 5's which cost me $300 so this helped

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 24, 2020, 5:35 PM#213

Phew, thought I was going to have to return these Logitech G Pro X headphones. Received them yesterday, got them setup today, but......and this is a BIG but..........the fucking microphone wouldn't pickup any sound. The headphones sound great, the mic was detected and showing up in windows, etc.

But no sound whether I tried recording in streamlabs, sound recorder in windows or using the Logitech Ghub software to test the mic. Their software kept showing a red triangle near the microphone saying "no input detected". If I clicked the mute and then unmute button on the cord it would go away for a few seconds, then return.

I started reading all the horror stories online. People trying to uninstall and reinstall everything, removing the headphones from device manager, switching USB ports, checking to make sure the mic was pushed all the way in on the headsets, restarting windows, doing complete fresh installs of windows, etc. and lots of people were complaining they couldn't get the mic to work and had to send them back.

Now it comes with a few different cords. One is labeled for your mobile phone and then the headset WITHOUT the microphone. There's another for your PC WITH the microphone on the sticker.

I had been so focused on the microphone that plugs into the headset that I neglected checking the cord that goes from the headset to the PC. This is because:

  1. I had fucking sound from my PC going to the headset no problem

  2. My PC was showing the mic from the headsets connected

But all that shit was fucking misleading as, well, FUCK! I pushed the cord from the headset to the PC in a little further and heard a CLICK and then my microphone started working!

Nice try, but not today Tech Satan! So glad I don't have to send these things back.

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Jul 24, 2020, 5:38 PM#214

Phew, thought I was going to have to return these Logitech G Pro X headphones. Received them yesterday, got them setup today, but......and this is a BIG but..........the fucking microphone wouldn't pickup any sound. The headphones sound great, the mic was detected and showing up in windows, etc.

But no sound whether I tried recording in streamlabs, sound recorder in windows or using the Logitech Ghub software to test the mic. Their software kept showing a red triangle near the microphone saying "no input detected". If I clicked the mute and then unmute button on the cord it would go away for a few seconds, then return.

I started reading all the horror stories online. People trying to uninstall and reinstall everything, removing the headphones from device manager, switching USB ports, checking to make sure the mic was pushed all the way in on the headsets, restarting windows, doing complete fresh installs of windows, etc. and lots of people were complaining they couldn't get the mic to work and had to send them back.

Now it comes with a few different cords. One is labeled for your mobile phone and then the headset WITHOUT the microphone. There's another for your PC WITH the microphone on the sticker.

I had been so focused on the microphone that plugs into the headset that I neglected checking the cord that goes from the headset to the PC. This is because:

  1. I had fucking sound from my PC going to the headset no problem

  2. My PC was showing the mic from the headsets connected

But all that shit was fucking misleading as, well, FUCK! I pushed the cord from the headset to the PC in a little further and heard a CLICK and then my microphone started working!

Nice try, but not today Tech Satan! So glad I don't have to send these things back.

If that didn't work I was going to suggest rebooting the cable.

ChipTalkerRegular31 posts
Posted Jul 24, 2020, 5:59 PM#215

I ran moded Q2/Q3 and Unreal Tournaments servers back in the day. Then I replaced gaming with poker but during the pandemic I built some decent Ryzen7/RTX 2070 Super rigs for my boys (10 and 13) who both game a lot. They got me into Valorant during the closed beta and that is what I have been doing since April instead of poker. I'm not good but I'm not terrible either. If anyone is looking for A Reyna main hit me up. Would be nice to actually talk to people my age during the game, I never talk because just weird when they are random kids and you are 40+.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 2:12 AM#216

Some late night PLO. Tampa Hard Rock only has 2 cashier windows open and didn't see any brush selling chips

Luckily a buddy of mine was on his way out or we'd both have been stuck in line for 30 minutes

Rhodeman77Shark314 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 2:58 AM#217

Some late night PLO. Tampa Hard Rock only has 2 cashier windows open and didn't see any brush selling chips

Luckily a buddy of mine was on his way out or we'd both have been stuck in line for 30 minutes

View attachment 497429 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/497429/)

Every casino pro/reg I know keeps a bunch of chips in their backpack to avoid the cage lines (and possible tax issues). Standing in lines for chips is a lot of time wasted when you will have to do it again the next trip.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 3:00 AM#218

Every casino pro/reg I know keeps a bunch of chips in their backpack to avoid the cage lines (and possible tax issues). Standing in lines for chips is a lot of time wasted when you will have to do it again the next trip.

I'm usually playing at 2am so lines haven't been bad. But couldn't sleep tonight so got here much earlier

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 3:15 AM#219

We got the full double

Limp :jh::js::th::7h: on the button, hyper aggro with rock in the SB makes it 50, limper in EP calls. I call

Flop :6d::8d::9h:

SB bets pot, I just call wanting a non-diamond turn. Turn :qh:

He pots again, I repot all-in and he snaps with :kd::qd::qs::5h:

We run it twice, he needs to pair the board or hit a diamond, it runs out

:4c:

:4h:

And we hold!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 3:24 AM#220

Great table. Four way all-in pre and I see three of the hands

9883

QJJ2

KJT6

Only premiums at this table lol

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 3:26 AM#221

Great table. Four way all-in pre and I see three of the hands

9883

QJJ2

KJT6

Only premiums at this table lol

Better that than the nits I'm PLOing against on Windy Crest right now. ;)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 3:29 AM#222

Actually thought I was a bigger favorite here, but glad I ran pure on both rivers

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 3:40 AM#223

USA USA USA!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 3:55 AM#224

I can't take pics fast enough. Limp :ad::ah::kd::8c:

Aggro on my left makes it 50, EVERYBODY calling, I repot to $350 and two shorter stacks call

Flop :3c::3s::7c:

They check to me. I POT, ONE FOLDS, ONE PUTS HIS LAST $75 in (sorry about caps) and despite flush hitting on first runout I scoop

Then next hand I have :kh::js::th::7c: and the flop is :qc::jh::3h:

I lead out, two callers. Check the :8s: turn and guy shoves for $175. Other guy folds, I call

We go twice and I run pure again

:9c:

:9s:

He gets excited announcing a straight and has T8 which is 2nd nuts to my nut nut

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 4:15 AM#225

In for $1,500 and out for $4,476

What's funny is my first table sucked, too many good players. A girl showed up and she was terrible, but she was all distracted and flustered, constantly slowing down our time rake game. So I got a table transfer and it was a fucking gold mine

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 25, 2020, 5:31 PM#226

A visual representation of my results in July

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 26, 2020, 5:54 AM#228

Whew just dodged a bullet. Folded KTT2 on button

Flop is KT5...9...5

One guy had KKxx other hsd AT55!!!

Wound up being a 7k pot!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 26, 2020, 7:09 AM#229

2/5/10 PLO was down $1,100 but rallied to only lose $315

Table fish started getting replaced with good players so shifted over to 1/2 PLO

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 26, 2020, 7:38 AM#230

Lol, bunch of limpers. I limp :as::ad::qd::js: on the button

SB makes it 5, they all call, I repot to 30, five of us to the flop of

:kd::qc::7h:

SB bets 30 leaving 35 behind. Folds to me. I shove, he has

:ks::qc::9s::4h: and holds

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 26, 2020, 8:50 AM#231

Dangnabit, missed my pot. Right fold, wrong time

I have on button AKKJ on a KQ9 flop, guy bets, I call. EP calls

Turn Ace. He bets big again, I fold. Shorty calls off, river pairs the 9. Big stavk had JTxx and shorty had QQxx and I would've won

But made the right laydown, so making good decisions

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 26, 2020, 9:40 AM#232

In for $500 max at 1/2 PLO and had :ah::qs::9h::4s: on a :9s::9d::2s: flop

Got it all-in against :qh::jh::9c::6c: and we dodge his outs

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 26, 2020, 3:46 PM#233

Lots of ups and downs throughout the session. One short stack we just couldn't put away.

We have A744 on an A74 flop against his KKQ2 with nfd, he calls it off on the flop qnd rivers the flush

Then I'm on the button and call a raise to 35 after other players with AQJ3 ds. He is in the blinds and shoves for $245 total. Everyone folds, I pick him off with slightly the better of it, but he makes a bigger two pair than me

So put in a 9 hr session, left around 6am cause I didn't get much sleep and took a loss on the day of $250

Gotta take Jenn to the dentist Monday so no Luckys game, and off tues-thurs so that is a wrap on my July, which squeeked past June to be my #2 month since I started this journey

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 4:38 AM#235

Silks got a 1/2/5 PLO going tonight, my buddy shot me a text so came out to play

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 8:59 AM#236

Silks got a 1/2/5 PLO going tonight, my buddy shot me a text so came out to play

View attachment 499933 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/499933/)

Large inlay RHC mixed with ceramic? Is there anything small rooms won't do? Is fired modeling clay next?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 11:18 AM#238

Moar rungood !

Unfortunately ran QQJT on a rainbow AQ4 board into limped AAK2 from an unknown player and lost a good sized pot early.

Was down $700 at one point, got it all-in 3 times but chopped when running twice, fought back to even and eventually had to settle for a loss of $150 on the day

One guy in the game won a massive 3-way all-in with top set against two players with wraps on a J93 flop. They went twice, first board he makes quads, 2nd board he pairs the 3 with no waiting. Pot was around 4k I think.

Sent one of the players home, the other went on tilt and rebought and started raising to $20 preflop on a regular basis

We actually played rotating rounds of 4 card PLO and 5 card PLO high only

I tried to get the game 5 card the whole time but we had one guy who wouldn't agree

ThomacettiRegular31 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 11:51 AM#239

Unfortunately ran QQJT on a rainbow AQ4 board into limped AAK2 from an unknown player and lost a good sized pot early.

Was down $700 at one point, got it all-in 3 times but chopped when running twice, fought back to even and eventually had to settle for a loss of $150 on the day

One guy in the game won a massive 3-way all-in with top set against two players with wraps on a J93 flop. They went twice, first board he makes quads, 2nd board he pairs the 3 with no waiting. Pot was around 4k I think.

Sent one of the players home, the other went on tilt and rebought and started raising to $20 preflop on a regular basis

We actually played rotating rounds of 4 card PLO and 5 card PLO high only

I tried to get the game 5 card the whole time but we had one guy who wouldn't agree

Damn cooler hand :(

Still crawled back back to -$150 so that is ok (i lose more in my quarters game)

And you tilted someone...bonus :)

5 PLO high your strong suit ?

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 11:53 AM#240

Damn cooler hand :(

Still crawled back back to -$150 so that is ok (i lose more in my quarters game)

And you tilted someone...bonus :)

5 PLO high your strong suit ?

I think he thinks they will just play even worse in that game.

ThomacettiRegular31 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 11:56 AM#241

I think he thinks they will just play even worse in that game.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 12:22 PM#242

Shit, if I could monetize sleeping I'd do that too, lol!

That's creepy enough that I'm sure someone will pay for it... You may hafta wear a diaper and sleep in a crib, tho.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 12:22 PM#243

Damn cooler hand :(

Still crawled back back to -$150 so that is ok (i lose more in my quarters game)

And you tilted someone...bonus :)

5 PLO high your strong suit ?

I didn't tilt the guy, losing his stack yilted him

We are 7 handed in that room and playing 5 card generates more action

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 12:24 PM#244

That's creepy enough that I'm sure someone will pay for it... You may hafta wear a diaper and sleep in a crib, tho.

Keep your fantasies to yourself sir!

Also "goo goo ga ga!" Now I just need an OnlyFans account

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 10:30 PM#245

Keep your fantasies to yourself sir!

Also "goo goo ga ga!" Now I just need an OnlyFans account

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Jul 30, 2020, 11:00 PM#246

Large inlay RHC mixed with ceramic? Is there anything small rooms won't do? Is fired modeling clay next?

Cash plays!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 31, 2020, 8:04 AM#247

Little early a.m. poker for breakfast

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 31, 2020, 8:25 AM#248

Dodged a bullet. Had :ks::kc::js::8h: but was facing a pot and repot pre so let it go

Both guys get it in and go once

Flop JJ8 and I'm kicking myself, but A on turn and one of them had AAxx phew!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 31, 2020, 2:28 PM#249

So played the 1/2 PLO which was short-handed at 5 players, managed to get a seat in the 2/5/10 PLO before that game broke, there were two tables of 2/5/10. But unfortunately I was seated at the table with less action. I got on the transfer list but there was another guy ahead of me and my table was shorter than the other game so a transfer didn't look like it was going to happen soon.

Wound up taking a $315 win for the session and calling it a day. Back at it for the Friday into Saturday late night session tonight.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Jul 31, 2020, 4:44 PM#250

I haven't been to the casino in a loooooong time. But every time I've gone, I don't have a set leave time. I feel like I could sit there until 1.) I fall asleep, 2.) I win all the monies, or 3.) I lose all the monies.

Do you keep a schedule (even a rough schedule... leave by XX time) or are your visits open-ended. If your visits are open-ended, when factors into your decision to leave.

Sorry, I know this isn't the AMA thread.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 31, 2020, 4:56 PM#251

I haven't been to the casino in a loooooong time. But every time I've gone, I don't have a set leave time. I feel like I could sit there until 1.) I fall asleep, 2.) I win all the monies, or 3.) I lose all the monies.

Do you keep a schedule (even a rough schedule... leave by XX time) or are your visits open-ended. If your visits are open-ended, when factors into your decision to leave.

Sorry, I know this isn't the AMA thread.

Questions are perfectly fine here

In my old schedule I tried to set a window of play, so my wife would know I'm leaving by 8pm or 10pm

That way we could go to bed together

Now we go to bed together at 7pm, set my alarm for 1am and get up to hit the casino early a.m.

I may only play a few hours, or I may play a full 8-10 hours.

Depends on how good or bad the games are, how I feel, how much I'm up or down, etc.

As a for instance, I'm back to my 3k/day loss limit. The other day in the 2/5/10 I bought in for 1500 and ran it up to 4500 within 2 hours

The game was still good and I had the biggest stack, but there were some dangerous players (real gamblers) sitting with 1800-2500 each.

I knew if I doubled one of them up I would feel pretty shitty about blowing a 3k profit and leaving with only 500 profit, so opted to leave and lock it up.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Jul 31, 2020, 5:12 PM#252

Depends on ... how much I'm up or down, etc.

To clarify, you mean up or down at the table, not at 7:00 p.m., correct? :sneaky:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jul 31, 2020, 5:26 PM#253

To clarify, you mean up or down at the table, not at 7:00 p.m., correct? :sneaky:

Yes, how much at the table. I still play my normally scheduled sessions regardless of where I am at for the month

I try not to carry my previous sessions into my current ones, but look at them as a clean slate

Otherwise you will focus too much on "oh, I'm down $800 last session so I gotta get that back" or "I'm up 6k on the month so I can afford to play reckless today" , etc

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 6:19 AM#254

Waiting on my seat at 2am. Tried to call in 4 times to get on the list but nobody would pick up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 6:27 AM#255

Oh yeah, forgot to share my character pic for USAnumberWON, the youtube and hopefully streaming character

MURICAAAAA!!!!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 7:25 AM#256

Finally got our seat

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 7:43 AM#257

Stacking early. Smooth called a raise with AAxx and flop 774, guy bets, I call on button

Turn Ace, he bets, I call

River 4, he bets, I pot. He shows a 7 and eventually folds

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 7:57 AM#258

WHEEE!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 8:40 AM#259

Hit a bit of a cooler. Maniac at the table raised blind to 40 on the button (he was first to act after the rock)

Everyone calls including me in the BB with

:as::jd::8s::3d:

Flop is :qh::8h::8c: and I lead right out for 125, he is the only caller

Turn :qc:

We both check

River :6c:

I check-call his 300 bet expecting him to bet missed flush and straight draws and possibly an 8 with a weaker kicker

He rolls over AKQ8 for the flopped house

Was up around a grand, but had to settle for +$500 on the day

A player left and we dropped to 5 handed with no list, decided to rack up

ThomacettiRegular31 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 10:43 AM#260

Hit a bit of a cooler. Maniac at the table raised blind to 40 on the button (he was first to act after the rock)

Everyone calls including me in the BB with

:as::jd::8s::3d:

Flop is :qh::8h::8c: and I lead right out for 125, he is the only caller

Turn :qc:

We both check

River :6c:

I check-call his 300 bet expecting him to bet missed flush and straight draws and possibly an 8 with a weaker kicker

He rolls over AKQ8 for the flopped house

Was up around a grand, but had to settle for +$500 on the day

A player left and we dropped to 5 handed with no list, decided to rack up

Good game Anthony, too bad about the cooler hand (there always have to be one of those)...enjoy the weekend :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 11:56 AM#261

Good game Anthony, too bad about the cooler hand (there always have to be one of those)...enjoy the weekend :)

Well, to be fair, earlier the maniac raised pre with xxx7 and I cslled on the button with AAxx. Flop was 774 and I was the only one who called his bet, and hit my 2 outer Ace on the turn and he bet into me on the turn and river, so sometimes I can get lucky too

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 1:06 PM#262

Pretty sure you were 50/50 in all the above situations.

+$500 is a good session. Nice work.

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 1:16 PM#263

Got to love not bringing a purple to the table yet walking away with one.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 1:17 PM#264

Pretty sure you were 50/50 in all the above situations.

+$500 is a good session. Nice work.

Every hand I play is 50/50. I either win...or I lose

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 1:18 PM#265

Got to love not bringing a purple to the table yet walking away with one.

I like the pumpkins even more when I can win em

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 3:15 PM#266

I like the pumpkins even more when I can win em

Hard to find a pumpkin patch in a 1/2 game. Need to move deeper into the forest.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 3:33 PM#267

Hard to find a pumpkin patch in a 1/2 game. Need to move deeper into the forest.

I was playing the 2/5 PLO with a $10 rock. Buyins are 200-2K and purple and pumpkin chips are a common sight

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 4:17 PM#268

I play micro stakes with max loss per hand. So I buy in for like $100, but I am the only one with $5 chips in front of me. Players spend all night trying to get one from me, like a badge of honor. I'd be gunning for the purple and pumpkins in that game, no doubt.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 1, 2020, 11:12 PM#269

Playing earlier start tonight, in for $500 max at 1/2 PLO and 5th on the list for 2/5/10

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 1:35 AM#270

USA USA USA!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 5:27 AM#271

Playing some 2/5/10 now, wild table. Either going to get Busto or Robusto with this crowd

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 5:30 AM#272

Playing some 2/5/10 now, wild table. Either going to get Busto or Robusto with this crowd

View attachment 501505 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/501505/)

Arabica is much better than robusto. Also don't forget my cut - remember I staked you ten bucks at Tom's place in Atlanta one time, so I'm pretty sure you owe me a couple grand by now.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:08 AM#273

Guy in seat 1 sitting on close to 6k with a VP$IP of 100% and raising preflop EVERY hand between $35-50

Just gotta be patient and run pure

Lots more fishies at this table than my first one

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:28 AM#274

Maniac just called a river all-in for $1,300 with Q843 on a board of 842TJ and won with two pair lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:36 AM#275

Damn, the golden goose laid its last egg, he lost a massive 3 way all-in after flopping top 2 against middle set. Cost him 2k, he racked up and left before we could get the rest :(

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 8:15 AM#276

Had KQT8 on a K97 rainbow flop, got called by AQT7

Turn Jack, we get it in and go twice

He hits one of the 2 remaining 10's on one board to make broadway and I get 3-quartered for my stack

Then I limp repot AAK9 ds on the button, two callers

Flop A92, I shove and K654 calls, we go twice, he gutshots immediately on the first board, spiking the 3 do we chop instead of me doubling

At least they're TRYING to give me their $$$ lol, good grief

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 8:25 AM#277

Lol, he called $280 preflop and check-called my $460 shove on the flop with 18% equity

I should be a poker billionaire by now

What's even funnier is all night he's been chiding other players for their terrible calls

After we chopped I was jovial and congratulated him, he said he "knew" he was going to hit it

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 10:45 AM#278

Was down $1,500 but almost unstuck after flopping top 2 and getting it in 3 ways

Turn gutshot straights a guy but river psirs snd I have the nuts. Only down $300 now lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 4:36 PM#279

played for TWELVE hours, a marathon session for me by any means.

The 1/2 PLO I made a couple hundred bucks. The first 2/5/10 table was just ok.

But by god that 2nd table I transferred to was full of absolute droolers. Unfortunately I didn't run well enough to post a profit, but by god they tried to throw me money when I had hands

Got a little unluck with KQTT on a J96 rainbow flop, raised a bettor who just called. Turn a 4, we both check. River J and we check it down, he has J663 le sigh

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 5:10 PM#280

Second boat checks?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:03 PM#281

Second boat checks?

I was shocked too. It was the same guy who called my limp repot with K654 earlier

He said he was worried on the flop I had a set of 9's since I raised him and he had a blocker to top ser. So maybe he expected me to bet the river when it paired with 9's full

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:30 PM#282

I was shocked too. It was the same guy who called my limp repot with K654 earlier

He said he was worried on the flop I had a set of 9's since I raised him and he had a blocker to top ser. So maybe he expected me to bet the river when it paired with 9's full

Fucking what? He flopped a set and didn't bet that brick of a turn? For me to say thats nitty you know that he's playing tight. I'd continue to actively seek out that player. You'll make money off of him. Next time :tup:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:39 PM#283

Fucking what? He flopped a set and didn't bet that brick of a turn? For me to say thats nitty you know that he's playing tight. I'd continue to actively seek out that player. You'll make money off of him. Next time :tup:

He bet the flop, I raised him. He has bottom set and a blocker to top set, so feared I had flopped middle set

Bottom set in this game can be a real money burner

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:40 PM#284

He bet the flop, I raised him. He has bottom set snd a blocker to top set, so feared I had flopped middle set

Bottom set in this game can be a real money burner

Oh ok I misunderstood. I thought you were first to act here.

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:42 PM#285

He bet the flop, I raised him. He has bottom set snd a blocker to top set, so feared I had flopped middle set

Bottom set in this game can be a real money burner

But he made Jacks full of 6s, right? So he checks the river in fear of what? Doesn’t he have the nuts?

Or was he trying to trap you in the river?

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 6:49 PM#286

But he made Jacks full of 6s, right? So he checks the river in fear of what? Doesn’t he have the nuts?

Or was he trying to trap you in the river?

Maybe he was hoping to check raise if Anthony bet the river?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 7:01 PM#287

But he made Jacks full of 6s, right? So he checks the river in fear of what? Doesn’t he have the nuts?

Or was he trying to trap you in the river?

If he believes I had a set of 9's I think he was planning to checkraise the river, expecting me to bet 9's full

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 2, 2020, 8:46 PM#288

Doesn’t he have the nuts?

J9 (for jacks full of nines) would be the nuts.

If he believes I had a set of 9's I think he was planning to checkraise the river, expecting me to bet 9's full

I can't give him that much credit.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 2:26 PM#289

Little morning PLO at TGT

cpac54Micro-Stakes Grinder24 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 3:36 PM#290

Little morning PLO at TGT

View attachment 502070 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/502070/)

You may have answered this already somewhere, and if so apologies for re-hashing, but I'd be curious to know what your "work week" looks like? (How many days a week do you play, what kind of hours do you put in and when (daytime, late night, night shift)).

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 3:50 PM#291

You may have answered this already somewhere, and if so apologies for re-hashing, but I'd be curious to know what your "work week" looks like? (How many days a week do you play, what kind of hours do you put in and when (daytime, late night, night shift)).

It's been fluctuating with covid, as some of my old hours aren't as profitable

Right now it looks like this

Mon: 10am - 4pm

Tues: off

Wed: off (but trying to get a regular 7pm - 2am game running at a rooom closest to me)

Thurs: 9pm - fri a.m.

Fri: bed at 7pm. Wake up 1am sat morning to head in

Sat: bed at 7pm, wake up 1am sun morning to head in

Sun: off

I will play anywhere from 2 hrs to 8 hrs usually, sometimes 10-12 hrs but those are more rare

30-40 hrs/ week generally

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 4:19 PM#292

Was down $500 but back up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 4:44 PM#293

lol, one of the droolers check called my flop pot bet OOP as a loser, then led into me on the turn and stacked off as an even bigger loser, then went 1 time and binked his river miracle Ace

I should really be a billionaire by now

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 5:10 PM#294

Mon: 10am - 4pm

Tues: off

....

Sun: off

I will play anywhere from 2 hrs to 8 hrs usually, sometimes 10-12 hrs but those are more rare

What makes those Monday hours attractive?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 5:40 PM#295

What makes those Monday hours attractive?

The 1/2 PLO at TGT with mandatory $5 button straddle and unlimited restraddles

These guys are massive degenerate gamblers so pots will get restraddled up to $80 preflop sometimes, just gotta be comfortable riding the variance train

I could play later, but usually leave to have supper with Jenn

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 5:56 PM#296

Trapped the other cubsn maniac and got it all-in pre, he turns broadway but I won a side pot against another player

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 5:57 PM#297

lol, one of the droolers check called my flop pot bet OOP as a loser, then led into me on the turn and stacked off as an even bigger loser, then went 1 time and binked his river miracle Ace

I should really be a billionaire by now

To be fair, a 9 would've got him there too.

And maybe he also though he had a diamond draw?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 5:59 PM#298

To be fair, a 9 would've got him there too.

And maybe he also though he had a diamond draw?

He check called flop and LED turn for 2/3 his chips. He's fucking retarded lol

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:00 PM#299

He check called flop and LED turn for 2/3 his chips. He's fucking retarded lol

Open ended and third pair? Maybe you're playing a little too snug...

;)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:01 PM#300

Open ended and third pair? Maybe you're playing a little too snug...

;)

And no flush blockers

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:06 PM#301

Kidding aside, he clearly was testing you with the 2/3 stack bet... He thought you were playing position with napkins, and figured he could scare you away with a big bet and his OESD gave him enough equity if you called.

I say let him formulate that play as a winning strategy...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:15 PM#302

Just frustrating that I doubled up both cubsns today as a big favorite both times

ChaosRockRegular32 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:18 PM#303

Just frustrating that I doubled up both cubsns today as a big favorite both times

I feel your pain Anthony, we've all been there. However (and I know I don't have to tell you that), Villains like that are the reason poker is profitable. Although the results are purely statistical, you are always on the better side of the edge. Hang in there and thank them for their play.

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:18 PM#304

I feel your pain Anthony, we've all been there. However (and I know I don't have to tell you that), Villains like that is the reason poker is profitable. Although the results are purely statistical, you are always on the better side of the edge. Hang in there and thank them for their play.

The "real" pro has spoken.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:24 PM#305

I feel your pain Anthony, we've all been there. However (and I know I don't have to tell you that), Villains like that are the reason poker is profitable. Although the results are purely statistical, you are always on the better side of the edge. Hang in there and thank them for their play.

If I had to lose to anyone, it's the guys who will give it back I want winning it for sure

shorticusShark143 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:29 PM#306

I feel your pain Anthony, we've all been there. However (and I know I don't have to tell you that), Villains like that are the reason poker is profitable. Although the results are purely statistical, you are always on the better side of the edge. Hang in there and thank them for their play.

We all been there? Can I travel with you guys? I wanna be a winner too:)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:30 PM#307

We all been there? Can I travel with you guys? I wanna be a winner too:)

ChaosRockRegular32 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:34 PM#308

We all been there? Can I travel with you guys? I wanna be a winner too:)

Not claiming anything other than being in a situation in which a Villain makes a horrible mistake but rakes the pot.

PaybackRegular26 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:34 PM#309

Opponents Strategy:

shorticusShark143 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 6:40 PM#310

Not claiming anything other than being in a situation in which a Villain makes a horrible mistake but rakes the pot.

I’m just being silly bro. Lol. Not serious at all!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 8:16 PM#311

Was almost down 2k but survived a 3 way all-in on the flop and rallying back

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 9:30 PM#312

Managed to cash out + $153 on thr day, despite losing two massive pots where I was an 80% and 70% favorite when the money went in

Been playing great but running like dogshit against the fishiest players.

But at least those are the guys who will give it back

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 9:44 PM#313

Managed to cash out + $153 on thr day, despite losing two massive pots where I was an 80% and 70% favorite when the money went in

Been playing great but running like dogshit against the fishiest players.

But at least those are the guys who will give it back

Do the mouthbreathers who have been giving the bad beats frequent the rooms quite often?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 3, 2020, 10:57 PM#314

Do the mouthbreathers who have been giving the bad beats frequent the rooms quite often?

Oh yes, the droolers are a regular staple. How do you think my 3 cats can afford to nap 18 hours/day?

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 12:07 AM#315

But at least those are the guys who will give it back

The frustration sets in when you lose your money to the fish and someone else takes it before you can get in hand with him again...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 12:23 AM#316

The frustration sets in when you lose your money to the fish and someone else takes it before you can get in hand with him again...

Well, some frustration set in today because my 12 hour session Saturday night was ridiculous. I was a monster favorite and if I hadn't run three pots twice I would've lost all three despite being an overwhelming favorite against the fish each time. AAxx vs KKxx and first board he flops quads. Get a fish to call huge raise preflop with K654 and then on an A29 board he check-calls my shove (when there's a two flush he doesn't have AND he puts me on a set of Aces, so he's calling chasing a fucking gutshot 3 and spikes it on the turn of the first board to steal half the pot, etc)

And then to have the two fishy cubans sneak away with pots where I was 70% and 80% favorite to win (which in PLO are monster spots) and having them running twice with other players at the table but only once with me and then having them celebrate after they sucked out was frustrating.

Fortunately they suck so bad that I know I'll get it back in the long run. Plus, I managed to get one of them later this session in the pot that salvaged the day, where I had KKxx with hearts on a J92 and two hearts on the flop and got it all-in three-ways (a fish led out, I raised to isolate, the cuban in seat 1 repotted all-in and I was committed at that point and called off as well) and the board paired 9's on the turn and bricked the river and I showed my Kings up and they both folded. Wouldn't put it past the cuban to get it in there with a weaker flush draw, a straight draw or a shitty two pair like J2 or something.

Plus, I didn't show my frustration at the table, I was actually playing a bit more maniacal and surprising a lot of players today. I restraddled to $40 three times preflop, plus threw in some $20 and $10 restraddles as well.

I shoved to isolate a guy while holding 9886 one suit because of all the dead money and at that point I really didn't fucking care, let's gambool motherfucker! (we went twice and he had AQxx and smashed the first board with AQJxx and then the 2nd board I turned the nut straight but it brought him a diamond draw that he binked on the river to scoop the pot, but people were blown away I wasn't in there with AAxx like they were expecting.)

Today I decided to see how the other half lives and gambooled it up quite a bit more than my usual, but I had fun, kept the game lively and recruited some guys to come play this Wednesday at Silks. Which ran last Wednesday as a complete fluke, but I'm trying to make it a regular game since it's 20 minutes from home instead of 35-40 like the other two locations.

PaybackRegular26 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 1:00 AM#317

If you haven't already read Jared Tendler Mental Game of Poker I'd highly recommend it as it sounds like a case of major entitlement tilt

Evidence below:

having them celebrate after they sucked out was frustrating.

Fortunately they suck so bad that I know I'll get it back in the long run.

I didn't show my frustration at the table I was actually playing a bit more maniacal and surprising a lot of players today.

I really didn't fucking care, let's gambool motherfucker!

people were blown away I wasn't in there with AAxx like they were expecting.

gambooled it up quite a bit more than my usual,

but I had fun

Remember you are there to make money, not have fun. That 9886 blowout probably cost several hours worth of EV in terms of work.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 1:43 AM#318

If you haven't already read Jared Tendler Mental Game of Poker I'd highly recommend it as it sounds like a case of major entitlement tilt

Evidence below:

Remember you are there to make money, not have fun. That 9886 blowout probably cost several hours worth of EV in terms of work.

to hit on your points:

having them celebrate after they sucked out was frustrating

I mean, should I be happy to lose two big pots as a monster favorite to two guys who whoop and holler about it?

fortunately they suck so bad that I know I'll get it back in the long run

To me this is a statement of fact. These are guys who call off half their chips preflop with Q983 double suited and one called all-in (as the FOURTH player all-in pre) with Q976 one suit for $1,200. They indeed do suck bad, and are long-term donators in the game.

I didn't show my frustration at the table I was actually playing a bit more maniacal and surprising a lot of players today.

I came into the game playing more loose and maniacal than I usually do from the jump, not in response to the results of these hands which happened much later. Other players tend to view me as a nit and think I "only play Aces" and thus I was able to make some moves and I think I stole three pots with a naked Ace bluff, got a guy to fold a flush when I just had a set, etc.

I opened up my ranges, played more hands and was willing to accept variance more than I usually do.

I really didn't fucking care, let's gambool motherfucker!

people were blown away I wasn't in there with AAxx like they were expecting

You reference the 9886 hand as a "blowout" but I would disagree. The pot was straddled multiple times, it was also raised after everyone called the straddle. Given my image I was able to isolate the raiser (who is loose and aggressive) and get him all-in with a coordinated hand AND dead money in the pot. I don't recall his exact holding, but it wasn't super premium. But to give an idea of the equities against my holding:

Granted he could have hands that have me in much worse shape, but given his image I felt like I had decent equity against his range of holdings and with dead money felt it was an acceptable play, knowing that he runs it twice. I figured to escape with half the pot and chop up the dead money a reasonable amount of the time, get beat some of the time and scoop him some of the time.

but I had fun

Well, I did have fun. I got to turn up my aggression, play more pots, push more players out of pots, etc. LAGS have more fun, and it's a part of my game that can always use some refinement, since I'm generally very nitty, pot-controlling, patient and disciplined.

Also, why wouldn't I want to have some fun? Yes, I am there to make money. But money doesn't buy happiness. I made decent money at my last job, but I was miserable doing it.

I rarely straddle as well, letting the other players do it. But I jumped in today and did some straddles of $10, $20 and $40 and it got them hyped up and gambling more. I waited to put my straddles in when I was in late position, co, button, etc. The weaker players were the ones restraddling from OOP in the blinds, etc. There's a method to my madness. I made sure they were giving more action than I was, despite my giving the impression of being one of them joining in.

The guy who beat me in that 9886 hand was saying something afterwards, can't remember exactly what it was, but something about how he had been losing all day or something. And I responded "oh dry your tears with my chips........bitch!" He and I are on good terms though, play all the time together, so he and a bunch of other guys burst out laughing cause they were seeing this off-the-wall side of me rather than the guy who's constantly trapping them with double suited aces for stacks.

It kept the game jovial and light, and the chips flying. I was on my first buyin for the majority of the session, and it was swinging up and down and up and down. But they never knew where I was at in a hand anymore because I was making plays they had never see me make, so it threw them off how they approach playing against me.

I was willing to gamble it up with my first buyin and take more risks, cause I had two more full buyins behind it should I need them. Sometimes a nit needs to take a day off and put a little gambool in his step.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 1:46 AM#319

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 2:33 AM#321

Keep your chin up G. Keep your chin up.

inca911Regular77 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 3:13 AM#322

Today I decided to see how the other half lives and gambooled it up....

“I play for money ... I got stones enough not to chase....”

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 3:31 AM#323

“I play for money ... I got stones enough not to chase card actions....”

View attachment 502541 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/502541/)

The one quote of that movie I never could understand!?!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 9:55 AM#324

“I play for money ... I got stones enough not to chase card actions....”

View attachment 502541 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/502541/)

My cats eat!

I loosened up more preflop, and turned up my aggression pre and post flop more than my usual

But I wasn't getting it in there with uncoordinated hands with danglers like these guys do (they'll pile off pre with KQT4 suited to the Ten, KJ65, etc)

When I put my stack at risk I had the best of it, or at least the equity and dead money in the pot to do so.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 10:00 AM#325

The one quote of that movie I never could understand!?!

Sounds weird to me too, English only at the table sir!

CapybaraFanMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 2:18 PM#326

If you haven't already read Jared Tendler Mental Game of Poker I'd highly recommend it as it sounds like a case of major entitlement tilt

Evidence below:

Remember you are there to make money, not have fun. That 9886 blowout probably cost several hours worth of EV in terms of work.

Strongly second the recommendation of Tendler's material. A fair bit of fluff in some of it, but a strong core of substance imo.

After a day's separation from the session, I'd think back over your response to @Payback (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/75/) above.

Plus, I didn't show my frustration at the table, I was actually playing a bit more maniacal and surprising a lot of players today. I restraddled to $40 three times preflop, plus threw in some $20 and $10 restraddles as well.

Specifically, consider how it might appear to you if a typically tight player, after some suckouts, did the above. You might not have slammed the table and muttered about your bad luck, but the above actions from someone who typically doesn't straddle or otherwise gamble it up are textbook evidence of frustration. They are maybe the strongest signals you can give to your opponents that your range has expanded and therefore, so should theirs.

If this isn't your ordinary gear, you're likely giving up a lot of EV so players who are able to capitalize. Regardless of any after the fact rationalization of the 9886 hand, that's a blowup and not one that can be justified as "giving the appearance of action."

All of the above would be kind of a standard "fuck it" session for a recreational player and maybe even unavoidable at some frequency for a professional. But it's absolutely necessary for a professional to at least be able to look back at the session and understand the problems rather than trying to excuse them.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 4, 2020, 2:29 PM#327

Strongly second the recommendation of Tendler's material. A fair bit of fluff in some of it, but a strong core of substance imo.

After a day's separation from the session, I'd think back over your response to @Payback (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/75/) above.

Specifically, consider how it might appear to you if a typically tight player, after some suckouts, did the above. You might not have slammed the table and muttered about your bad luck, but the above actions from someone who typically doesn't straddle or otherwise gamble it up are textbook evidence of frustration. They are maybe the strongest signals you can give to your opponents that your range has expanded and therefore, so should theirs.

If this isn't your ordinary gear, you're likely giving up a lot of EV so players who are able to capitalize. Regardless of any after the fact rationalization of the 9886 hand, that's a blowup and not one that can be justified as "giving the appearance of action."

All of the above would be kind of a standard "fuck it" session for a recreational player and maybe even unavoidable at some frequency for a professional. But it's absolutely necessary for a professional to at least be able to look back at the session and understand the problems rather than trying to excuse them.

I'll say it again. From the jump I opened up my game this session, it was NOT in response to the hands I lost to the cubans or any other hands I lost. I was doing it from the beginning of the session.

I was straddling well before those hands as well.

The 9886 hand happened before the losses to the cubans also.

That pot I had restraddled to 40 and the guy who wound up potting preflop had restraddled to 80. So after a bunch of players called, he repots to try and scoop it up, so I repotted to isolate with a hand that figures to have decent equity with dead money in the pot. He only had about $450 in his stack.

I would feel comfortable doing that with a hand like 6789, 789T, etc.

I would NOT have done it with 9866 or 9765 where I have a gap at the top of my rundown, but any pair 7 or above with coordinated cards or a rundown where my gap is at the bottom where I can run it twice against one opponent with dead money, lets go.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 5, 2020, 12:37 PM#328

Here's a A.M.A. based question for you - feel free to not answer if you think this gives too much away about your bankroll size.

Do you cash out at the end of each night, or do you have a standing account with one or more casinos? The topic came up recently on a podcast that was (briefly) discussing casinos going cashless, and the Director of Gaming Operations mentioned that some players, in particular poker players, prefer to keep their money with the house, thereby being effectively cashless (at least in part).

It seems like a good idea. It saves a little time and it's safer (can't get rolled in the parking lot), but you would need to have bankrolls in multiple locations, plus enough padding at home for living expenses.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 5, 2020, 12:42 PM#329

Here's a A.M.A. based question for you - feel free to not answer if you think this gives too much away about your bankroll size.

Do you cash out at the end of each night, or do you have a standing account with one or more casinos? The topic came up recently on a podcast that was (briefly) discussing casinos going cashless, and the Director of Gaming Operations mentioned that some players, in particular poker players, prefer to keep their money with the house, thereby being effectively cashless (at least in part).

It seems like a good idea. It saves a little time and it's safer (can't get rolled in the parking lot), but you would need to have bankrolls in multiple locations, plus enough padding at home for living expenses.

I don't keep any money with any casino or poker room. I carry 3K as my daily loss limit, and keep another 2K at home to refill with. Each week or so I'll take a trip to the bank and deposit any excess and return my on-hand roll to 5K. There have been some instances where I needed to hit the bank to refill my on-hand roll, but fortunately those have been few and far between (specifically February where I fell off a cliff after being up 6K in the first couple of weeks and took a 9K nosedive)

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Aug 5, 2020, 3:01 PM#330

Anthony will open an account at the fucking Mirage one day and then we'll know that mega baller status has been achieved.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 5, 2020, 3:04 PM#331

Anthony will open an account at own the fucking Mirage one day and then we'll know that mega baller status has been achieved.

FYP

Also, when you do, consult @ChaosRock (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/78/) for the new Mirage's chip designs. ;)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 5, 2020, 4:21 PM#332

FYP

Also, when you do, consult @ChaosRock (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/78/) for the new Mirage's chip designs. ;)

I'm not gonna own shit if I keep losing big pots as a 70% and 80% favorite lol!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:18 AM#333

Poker players are notoriously unreliable, tried to get the plo at Silks running today like past week, one guy showed, 2 guys running late

I hopped into tourney instead and chipping up

ThomacettiRegular31 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:21 AM#334

Cool...how many players atm and what's the BI ?

Good runs & hot deck, keep us posted

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:28 AM#335

Wheee

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:32 AM#336

Cool...how many players atm and what's the BI ?

Good runs & hot deck, keep us posted

It's just an $80 with like 25% rake, 32 entries, 20 minutes left to rebuy

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:40 AM#337

114k at break, avg 55k

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 1:10 AM#338

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 1:19 AM#339

156k avg at 65k

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 1:43 AM#340

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 1:56 AM#341

Go! Go! Go!

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 1:57 AM#342

What are the payouts up top? How many runners? How many left?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 1:58 AM#343

What are the payouts up top? How many runners? How many left?

34 runners. 14 left

1st $796

2nd $530

3rd $265

4th $177

Lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 2:16 AM#344

Final table with 202k

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 2:38 AM#345

293k

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 3:39 AM#346

In the $$$ but shorter stacked

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 4:10 AM#347

Here's a A.M.A. based question for you - feel free to not answer if you think this gives too much away about your bankroll size.

Do you cash out at the end of each night, or do you have a standing account with one or more casinos? The topic came up recently on a podcast that was (briefly) discussing casinos going cashless, and the Director of Gaming Operations mentioned that some players, in particular poker players, prefer to keep their money with the house, thereby being effectively cashless (at least in part).

It seems like a good idea. It saves a little time and it's safer (can't get rolled in the parking lot), but you would need to have bankrolls in multiple locations, plus enough padding at home for living expenses.

Safety is a huge concern for the players I know. Most of the players I know have safety deposit boxes at the mgm and/or Maryland live. Others just color up at the end of the night and keep the chips So as not to advertise a big win. Very few cash out at the end of the night. All use the Parking valet so when they leave there are people around.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 4:23 AM#349

ICM chopped 4 ways after we paid bubble $100

I got $320 as 3rd in chips

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 4:31 AM#350

Safety is a huge concern for the players I know. Most of the players I know have safety deposit boxes at the mgm and/or Maryland live. Others just color up at the end of the night and keep the chips So as not to advertise a big win. Very few cash out at the end of the night. All use the Parking valet so when they leave there are people around.

I'm not the type of player cashing out 10k.

my big wins are usually a few thousand.

Plus the parking garage is very close to the poker room and security

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 5:24 AM#351

Edit: Zombie beat me to the punch line.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 8:52 AM#352

ICM chopped 4 ways after we paid bubble $100

I got $320 as 3rd in chips

Typically, I love tournaments, and cashing is always fun... but Jeebus, that "win" is going to cut into your $/hr rate. I now know a little more as to why pros start so late in many tournaments and play so aggressively early.

ThomacettiRegular31 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 9:05 AM#353

ICM chopped 4 ways after we paid bubble $100

I got $320 as 3rd in chips

WP Anthony....25% rake :eek: (is that the normal rake ? almost $20 on $75 BI...seems excessive)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:01 PM#354

Typically, I love tournaments, and cashing is always fun... but Jeebus, that "win" is going to cut into your $/hr rate. I now know a little more as to why pros start so late in many tournaments and play so aggressively early.

I was only there to try and get the PLO game running. One guy showed, two pthers called saying they'd be late, others never showed

So I figured, "when in Rome..." since I don't normally work Wednesday nights but was already there and didn't feel like driving to another room

My buddy who came for the PLO max late regged last night and wound up being the one who took 1st place $$$.

WP Anthony....25% rake :eek: (is that the normal rake ? almost $20 on $75 BI...seems excessive)

Small buyin tourneys always have excessive rake. But the people who generally play them aren't the sort to notice or care

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:27 PM#355

Closing in on the final table last night I picked off a short stack who shoved AT and I had AJ, but she spiked the T on the turn.

At the final table 6-handed and my buddy raises in EP, short stack shoves and I'm planning to reshove my AK from the blinds, but then a large stack on the button reshoved who I barely had covered, so wound up folding it.

So I lay down my AK and the big stack shows AQ and I start kicking myself when the short stack shows QQ............until the flop brings the case Queen in the door, then I pat myself profusely on the back "good laydown!"

Oh yeah, about midway through the tourney my buddy has built a larger stack, and is in the BB. UTG shoves and he calls, kid shows pocket 2's and my buddy T6 offsuit. Buddy flops a gutshot straight draw, and binks it on the river and the kid loses his shit and storms off, telling my buddy to "kill himself" as he goes outside to smoke (oh the irony!)

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:32 PM#356

The real question is... when you were under the gun, did the dealer say "Actions on you," followed by you saying,

"I'm waiting for my other two cards."

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:33 PM#357

The real question is... when you were under the gun, did the dealer say "Actions on you," followed by you saying,

"I'm waiting for my other two cards."

That actually did happen once early on. I was sitting there with two cards UTG and was like "wtf am I supposed to do with this?"

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:41 PM#358

That actually did happen once early on. I was sitting there with two cards UTG and was like "wtf am I supposed to do with this?"

Obv. answer is Obv.

Fold.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 12:42 PM#359

Obv. answer is Obv.

Fold.

But there was a guy at my table who stacked off with K9 offsuit on a K-high flop and told us all he "loves K9"

k9drShark175 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 1:03 PM#360

But there was a guy at my table who stacked off with K9 offsuit on a K-high flop and told us all he "loves K9"

Who doesn't love K9 :cautious:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 1:12 PM#361

Who doesn't love K9 :cautious:

I figured that'd bring you around! :P

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 11:16 PM#362

Alright, just finished doing a draft of the intro for my first video for the USAnumberWON concept I've been working on.

Video is private so can only be viewed with this link:

Still have a bunch of work to do after that, but wanted to get some feedback as I'm no video editing wiz.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 6, 2020, 11:32 PM#363

Alright, just finished doing a draft of the intro for my first video for the USAnumberWON concept I've been working on.

Video is private so can only be viewed with this link:

Still have a bunch of work to do after that, but wanted to get some feedback as I'm no video editing wiz.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 4:22 PM#365

About to play some PLO

Would still love feedback on the below, good, bad or indifferent

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 4:31 PM#366

About to play some PLO

View attachment 504774 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/504774/)

Would still love feedback on the below, good, bad or indifferent

It would be better if we knew who "This Guy" was.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 4:33 PM#367

It would be better if we knew who "This Guy" was.

That is the intro for the full video, so it won't end there

Just put that part of the clip together to make sure it flows ok

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 4:34 PM#368

That is the intro for the full video, so it won't end there

Just put that part of the clip together to make sure it flows ok

I like it. But was expecting to see mini uncle sam.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 4:37 PM#369

I like it. But was expecting to see mini uncle sam.

I still have to film the portions with me in costume

I have gaming footage clips already, just need to get them organized and overlay footage of me with it

inca911Regular77 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 4:44 PM#370

$0.02 I would change the intro order:

Global Pandemic

Civil Unrest

Murder Hornets

Murder hornets are the first humor element, and that should be a smooth lead in to "this guy". Also perhaps see if you can find a more updated Corona graphic vs. one that has a late-March timeline end. Feels like the video is outdated at the first release.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 4:46 PM#371

$0.02 I would change the intro order:

Global Pandemic

Civil Unrest

Murder Hornets

Murder hornets are the first humor element, and that should be a smooth lead in to "this guy". Also perhaps see if you can find a more updated Corona graphic vs. one that has a late-March timeline end. Feels like the video is outdated at the first release.

Thank you!

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 7:01 PM#372

Bringing the pumpkin as ammo today I see.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 7:03 PM#373

Bringing the pumpkin as ammo today I see.

A buddy at Mondays game needed a grand after he busted so I bought it from him

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 9:15 PM#374

WHEEEE

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 9:38 PM#375

I'm not the type of player cashing out 10k.

my big wins are usually a few thousand.

Plus the parking garage is very close to the poker room and security

YOU SAY THAT AFTER SOMEONE STOLE YOUR WHEEL OFF YOUR VEHICLE.

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 9:48 PM#376

Printing money in Tampa.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 9:50 PM#377

YOU SAY THAT AFTER SOMEONE STOLE YOUR WHEEL OFF YOUR VEHICLE.

Why you always gotta bring up the past?!?!

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Aug 7, 2020, 9:53 PM#378

Why you always gotta bring up the past?!?!

"the easiest way to figure out future behavior is past behavior"

Dr. Phil

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 8, 2020, 1:46 AM#379

Think my graphics guy did a pretty bang up job on this

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 2:14 PM#381

Little Monday morning PLO

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 2:45 PM#382

So are you tired of the grind yet? Curious when the fun of poker stops when the food and shelter are on the line. Cat's gotta eat!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 2:52 PM#383

So are you tired of the grind yet? Curious when the fun of poker stops when the food and shelter are on the line. Cat's gotta eat!

I've actually been enjoying it more recently. Having fun and playing well

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 4:39 PM#384

First bullet lost, potted flop, he called. Potted turn, he repots, we go twice

Hits a Queen on first board and spade on the other

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 5:06 PM#385

Almost unstuck

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 5:08 PM#386

First bullet lost, potted flop, he called. Potted turn, he repots, we go twice

Hits a Queen on first board and spade on the other

View attachment 506422 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/506422/)

I know it's not your innermost thoughts on it, but it is mine seeing this:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 5:45 PM#387

Unstuck, now to double this

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 5:48 PM#390

FYP

THAT'S the winning spirit I need on my team!

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 5:50 PM#391

THAT'S the winning spirit I need on my team!

USA USA USA

PaybackRegular26 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 6:05 PM#392

USA USA USA

I wonder how many posts on this site are literally "USA USA USA." Pretty lol that @Tommy (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1/) has to keep upgrading server space to accommodate.

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Aug 10, 2020, 6:06 PM#393

I wonder how many posts on this site are literally "USA USA USA." Pretty lol that @Tommy (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1/) has to keep upgrading server space to accommodate.

To be fair, 80% of my posts are just clogging space and ruining @tommys server space. That's why I became a vendor so I can shrug and smile....

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 11, 2020, 10:51 PM#394

Forgot to share this one. I was on the button with the rundown. MP potted and a good aggressive player repotted from the CO.

I called, folds to original raiser who repots all-in and the CO repots to isolate.

I figured one had AAxx and the other possibly kkxx or a high rundown, had them covered (biggest stack was 700 or 800) and came along figuring my equity would be good in that spot

Was better than I expected. First board I whiffed my straight by one card. 2nd board I got saved on the river as it came 924...4....9 otherwise I get scooped. Instead they got quartered, whew!

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Aug 11, 2020, 10:56 PM#395

Forgot to share this one. I was on the button with the rundown. MP potted and a good aggressive player repotted from the CO.

I called, folds to original raiser who repots all-in and the CO repots to isolate.

I figured one had AAxx and the other possibly kkxx or a high rundown, had them covered (biggest stack was 700 or 800) and came along figuring my equity would be good in that spot

Was better than I expected. First board I whiffed my straight by one card. 2nd board I got saved on the river as it came 924...4....9 otherwise I get scooped. Instead they got quartered, whew!

View attachment 507811 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/507811/)

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Aug 11, 2020, 10:58 PM#396

Dumb question here as I’ve really never played PLO. But don’t you still lose second board because you HAVE to play 2 from you hand and 3 from the board? Therefore you play the board and have 99448 and you lose to AA99K from the guy holding AAKQ?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 11, 2020, 11:00 PM#397

View attachment 507814 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/507814/)

BWAH HA HA HA!

Dumb question here as I’ve really never played PLO. But don’t you still lose second board because you HAVE to play 2 from you hand and 3 from the board? Therefore you play the board and have 99448 and you lose to AA99K from the guy holding AAKQ?

I HAVE 6789

2nd board is 92449

So I use the 89 in my hand and the 994 from the board to make three of a kind to their aces up

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Aug 11, 2020, 11:03 PM#398

Well that makes more sense. I should have seen that sense a full house requires you to have three of a kind and you would have that if you could just play the 9 alone. Thanks for the reply!

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Aug 11, 2020, 11:04 PM#399

Dumb question here as I’ve really never played PLO. But don’t you still lose second board because you HAVE to play 2 from you hand and 3 from the board? Therefore you play the board and have 99448 and you lose to AA99K from the guy holding AAKQ?

You are hereby invited to my plo games. I will send a limo.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 10:40 PM#400

got some footage filmed of me in costume to mix with the gaming footage yesterday, but today we're back on the felt.

1/2 PLO in Tampa with $777 high hands every 30 minutes

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 10:43 PM#401

Those chips look worn, but clean. Are they Corona Cleaning the chips regularly?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 10:46 PM#402

Those chips look worn, but clean. Are they Corona Cleaning the chips regularly?

Yes they clean the chips regularly now

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 10:49 PM#403

There's one positive from Corona 2020 then!

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 10:50 PM#404

There's one positive from Corona 2020 then!

lol no pun intended?

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 10:57 PM#405

You hit the high hand jackpots at all in your tenure so far?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 11:04 PM#406

You hit the high hand jackpots at all in your tenure so far?

I have hit some, what's funny is the floor just came by to poll the table about if we want to be high hand eligible

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 11:13 PM#407

Yes they clean the chips regularly now

Yeah, those chips are significantly cleaner than they were last time I played there.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 11:15 PM#408

Got it in against two shorties as an equity favorite but the K9 boated up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 13, 2020, 11:55 PM#409

A slow climb

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 12:08 AM#410

Think my graphics guy did a pretty bang up job on this

View attachment 505027 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/505027/)

Personally I don't like it. You left arm seems unnaturally short and I wouldn't have known you are wearing a fake beard except for knowing the original photo this graphic came from. It kinda looks like you puked on your shirt.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 12:13 AM#411

Personally I don't like it. You left arm seems unnaturally short and I wouldn't have known you are wearing a fake beard except for knowing the original photo this graphic came from. It kinda looks like you puked on your shirt.

Leave it to a godless canadian to hate on 'murica!

Also, I puke Freedom good sir!

But thank you for your feedback ;)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 12:38 AM#412

Had 2458 in the blinds on an A58 flop, doubled up a shortie when the turn was a 5 and he had A5xx

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 1:09 AM#413

Underfull strikes again...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 1:11 AM#414

Underfull strikes again...

He only had $100 left so never folding with the pot size

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 1:19 AM#415

I'm on button. Flop checked around. Turn checked to me, I pot, guy in the CO calls off his last $65 and binks the river 8

At least no one is hurting my stack

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 1:29 AM#416

Button straddle to 5, Guy on my right raised to 15 from the SB holding :jd::4h::3h::2d:

Everyone calls, $105 in the pot

Flop :tc::6h::5d: and he pots it first to act into 6 callers, 2 other players get it in.

He goes runner runner to make a heart flush with his 34 and bust them both. Going to be a good table

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 1:32 AM#417

Dude awesome table. lol J432 double suited

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 1:34 AM#418

Dude awesome table. lol J432 double suited

Premiums ONLY!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 4:44 AM#419

Had :qc::qs::jc::9h: on a flop of :kc::td::5c: and got itall-in at 2/5/10 for my $500 stack against 55xx

Ran it twice, whiffed both

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 4:53 AM#420

Lol, I have :ah::qh::5s::3s: on a flop of :kh::td::3h: and get it in against :ks::kc::qc::qs:

We go twice. First board he mskes quads on turn

2nd board he pairs the fucking 3 which I have in my hand, I river a useless flush lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 5:40 AM#421

Finally!

Have QQT8 and see a K97 flop, get it in against AQT9 and we go twice

My 8 proves key as I make the straight on both boards to scoop

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 5:45 AM#422

Finally!

Have QQT8 and see a K97 flop, get it in against AQT9 and we go twice

My 8 proves key as I male the straight on bpth boards to scoop

View attachment 510937 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/510937/)

Nice hits! Climb back up that bi*ch, let's get it in ahead some more! (no ooc)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 11:50 AM#423

So a summary of the bigger spots of my session

2/5/10 PLO run it twice, lose both as 2:1 dog

2/5/10 run it twice, lose both as slight favorite

1/2 PLO can only run it once, guy calls off his stack as an almost 4:1 dog and I lose

2/5/10 PLO run it twice as a reasonable favorite and win both

So was on my way to a -2k session but was able to make that -800 in the end

SyllogistikNewbie2 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 12:59 PM#424

Hey Anthony, I went through this whole thread and love seeing your results. Do you have your final results for July? You posted a snapshot around 7/25 but looks like you played after that. Hope you ended up great over the month. Congrats on your success and good luck with your venture!

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 1:50 PM#425

You left arm seems unnaturally short.

I can't un-see it now. I think if you extend the left elbow beyond the flag slightly, it works.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 1:53 PM#426

All the beats in this thread are tilting me... its like i don't even want to open the thread any more.

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 3:02 PM#427

Hey Anthony, I went through this whole thread and love seeing your results. Do you have your final results for July? You posted a snapshot around 7/25 but looks like you played after that. Hope you ended up great over the month. Congrats on your success and good luck with your venture!

July went sort of like this

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 3:05 PM#428

Had :qc::qs::jc::9h: on a flop of :kc::td::5c: and got itall-in at 2/5/10 for my $500 stack against 55xx

Ran it twice, whiffed both

Ouch.

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 3:17 PM#429

Finally!

Have QQT8 and see a K97 flop, get it in against AQT9 and we go twice

My 8 proves key as I make the straight on both boards to scoop

View attachment 510937 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/510937/)

Omg. What kind of donk goes in for stacks with AQT9 on a K97 flop? Is this the pretty standard for the players at this cardroom?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 3:51 PM#430

Omg. What kind of donk goes in for stacks with AQT9 on a K97 flop? Is this the pretty standard for the players at this cardroom?

A player who has been drinking a lot of Yuengling lol.

I mean, I had the guy in the 1/2 check-call off his stack on the turn (which didn't improve his hand) chasing the idiot end of a straight DRAW when a higher straight was possible already, there are plenty of fish in these games

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 3:55 PM#431

Hey Anthony, I went through this whole thread and love seeing your results. Do you have your final results for July? You posted a snapshot around 7/25 but looks like you played after that. Hope you ended up great over the month. Congrats on your success and good luck with your venture!

July was my 2nd best month ever, only behind December. I don't provide specific numbers though.

All the beats in this thread are tilting me... its like i don't even want to open the thread any more.

Lol. August has been rough. I'm up, but only a little as we approach the halfway mark.

The biggest hurts have been at the Monday game at Luckys. So many 4-figure pots where I was a 70% or 80% favorite and my opponents just binked perfect rivers over and over

Still, not going to let it get me down. As long as I'm making good decisions I have to accept I can't control the luck factor

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 4:05 PM#432

I have got to get into these games the next time I'm in Florida. :wow:

I would blend in with the other fish :oops:

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 4:16 PM#433

Do u play at the palm beach Kennel club? There was a great plo game That ran daily when I was down there.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 4:54 PM#434

Do u play at the palm beach Kennel club? There was a great plo game That ran daily when I was down there.

I'm in Tampa with PLO running every day of the week, not much reason to travel to other locations, especially ones almost a 4 hr drive from home

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 5:26 PM#435

Do u play at the palm beach Kennel club? There was a great plo game That ran daily when I was down there.

How is PBKC? I remember hearing that the biggest game they spread was 5/10 with a $300 max which seemed really dumb imo. Not a PLO guy if you couldn’t tell by my last post lol, but when I play Holdem’ I just go to the HR property’s and skip PBKC bc I figured the room was meh.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 10:56 PM#436

Time to turn the downswing upside down, LFG!!

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Aug 14, 2020, 11:46 PM#437

How is PBKC? I remember hearing that the biggest game they spread was 5/10 with a $300 max which seemed really dumb imo. Not a PLO guy if you couldn’t tell by my last post lol, but when I play Holdem’ I just go to the HR property’s and skip PBKC bc I figured the room was meh.

When I was there, it was a 10/25 game.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 12:27 AM#438

There's a reg-fish in the game calling preflop raises with 9843 rainbow. Please Poker Jesus let me stack this mofo

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 3:33 AM#439

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 3:37 AM#440

Left the 2/5/10 game a bit ago. Fishes left, replaced by stronger players and I'm just running like dogshit all week, had been folding for hours, down $400

In the 1/2 PLO and it's slightly better but not by much. Going to play another 30 minutes, then bounce so I'm still awake to drive

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 12:16 PM#441

No bueno, lost $500 on the day. Not a terrible outcome, but have not had a single winning session this past week.

Tonight will be back at it, off Sunday and then back at Luckys Monday

SyllogistikNewbie2 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 12:57 PM#442

No bueno, lost $500 on the day. Not a terrible outcome, but have not had a single winning session this past week.

Tonight will be back at it, off Sunday and then back at Luckys Monday

Brush it off, you'll come back in the positive next time.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 1:01 PM#443

Brush it off, you'll come back in the positive next time.

Yup, just gotta approach tonights session as independent of the previous week, rather than "I have lost X and I need to make that back"

Seriously though, I didn't realize how many dueces are in the deck until last night. Felt like 90% of the hands I was dealt started with a duece

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 1:53 PM#444

Seriously though, I didn't realize how many dueces are in the deck until last night. Felt like 90% of the hands I was dealt started with a duece

It's Omaha, so eight deuces. I feel that as a pro, you should already know this.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 2:26 PM#445

It's Omaha, so eight deuces. I feel that as a pro, you should already know this.

Based on my empirical evidence from last night, eight sounds woefully low

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 15, 2020, 2:59 PM#446

Based on my empirical evidence from last night, eight sounds woefully low

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 5:26 AM#447

Was feeling too zonked after supper yesterday to head in, went to sleep 7pm, woke up at midnight, next on the PLO list for a seat

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 5:39 AM#448

Just saw this hand

CO is $10 rock, button pots to $35, gets repotted to $120, another player calls. Button Raiser calls

Flop K33 rainbow

Reraiser gets it in with AA94 snd gets picked off by the button who holds

:qd::ts::5c::3c:

Lol, good game

Av8tionMicro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 6:06 AM#449

QT53 is the absolute nuts... didn't you hear?

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 6:09 AM#450

Just saw this hand

CO is $10 rock, button pots to $35, gets repotted to $120, another player calls. Button Raiser calls

Flop K33 rainbow

Reraiser gets it in with AA94 snd gets picked off by the button who holds

:qd::ts::5c::3c:

Lol, good game

We call that The Barrie.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 9:06 AM#451

Lets fucking GO!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 9:24 AM#452

WHEEE!

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 9:53 AM#453

Good game. Rack em up.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 2:52 PM#455

What’s that like 5500?

That's closer to 6500

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 3:01 PM#456

That's closer to 6500

No pumpkins? Chalk it up as a loss!

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 3:49 PM#458

QT53 is the absolute nuts... didn't you hear?

...only if there is at least one flush draw in there.

NOTE: flush draw need not be the nut flush draw or anywhere near the NFD.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 16, 2020, 5:46 PM#459

...only if there is at least one flush draw in there.

NOTE: flush draw need not be the nut flush draw or anywhere near the NFD.

It was a straight flush draw - obviously, that's better.

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:36 AM#460

Sweet! In for 2k sitting ~6.5k?

Any notable pots?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:37 AM#461

Sweet! In for 2k sitting ~6.5k?

Any notable pots?

In for 2500. Lost my first 2k, rebought for 500 and spun it up

Check the poker strat thread, I've got three hands I shared

Bmeister51Micro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 6:13 AM#462

I'm not @Bmeister51 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/2515/) with stacks of 5k chips big enough to shuffle!

to be fair my poker buddies and I may have to think about switching to being pro blackjack players.....

Bmeister51Micro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 6:15 AM#463

On a whim went to the nearest casino. Four of us in for 2k each.... You can only sit three to a table so we rotated in and out. Booked a $2.5k profit per man and dinked the last $900 off on wheel of fortune lol. Epic night

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 9:54 AM#464

On a whim went to the nearest casino. Four of us in for 2k each.... You can only sit three to a table so we rotated in and out. Booked a $2.5k profit per man and dinked the last $900 off on wheel of fortune lol. Epic night

You can't afford that kinda pay cut man!!!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 11:36 AM#465

So Saturday night (actually Sunday early a.m.) saw me buyin for 2k, and call a raise short-handed with QQ86 oop, then go broke on a T97 flop like a fucking idiot (I was the aggressor, but still)

So rebought for 500, built it to 785....1800.....3700....6500!

Managed to run well in a few multiway huge pots. One where I limp-potted AAJT one suit and got it in on a Q93 flop. Another where I called a raise from the SB with double suited KK65 and hit a K43 flop (posted in strat threads about some of these)

In the end I gave a few hundo back. In for $2,500 and out for $6,114. So +$3,614 on the session and turned around what had been a slow bleed week, where I lost EVERY session I played, only for a few hundred here, a few hundred there, but that shit adds up

Back at Luckys for the wild PLO game there. Done with losing as a 70-80% equity favorite against these fish, so going in with a positive mindset prepared to continue getting it in good

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 11:45 AM#466

AAJT one suit

o_O

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 11:46 AM#467

o_O

?

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 11:49 AM#468

?

I'm guessing you meant AJT was one suit such that you had one suit to hit a NF with...

But typically when you hold a pocket pair, you have at least two suits.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 11:51 AM#469

I'm guessing you meant AJT was one suit such that you had one suit to hit a NF with...

But typically when you hold a pocket pair, you have at least two suits.

I had :ad::ac::jh::tc:

So one nut suit

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 11:57 AM#470

I had :ad::ac::jh::tc:

So one nut suit

We speak different dialects of the same language. I'd call that hand three-suited. Perhaps I am more accurate, but your way is more descriptive.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 12:16 PM#471

We speak different dialects of the same language. I'd call that hand three-suited. Perhaps I am more accurate, but your way is more descriptive.

Hand went down something like this:

Hero on button and limps along, calling the $10 rock bet behind him. Someone in the blinds puts in a raise, few folks calling, back to Hero, repots to something like $260 I believe it was

Only the Hijack and CO call (the CO puts his money in and exclaims "ok, let's gamble") Hero covers both opponents, but only by a few hundred

Flop :qd::9c::3d:

Heroes Hand: :ad::ac::jh::tc:

They check to me, I bet pot, they both stack off, we run it twice:

first board: :as::8c: (hero turns top set and rivers nut straight)

second board: :6h::ah: (hero rivers top set)

I didn't get to see their hands, but obviously scooped the whole shebang :)

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 12:19 PM#472

How common is running it twice? Seems it happens alot.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 12:29 PM#474

How common is running it twice? Seems it happens alot.

We can't do it in the 1/2 PLO game because it's jackpot eligible for high hands. But in the 1/2/5 unlimited restraddle at Luckys and the 2/5/10 at Hard Rock going twice is a pretty common thing.

There are some players who only go once, I was one of them for awhile. But switched back about a little over a month or so ago. It helps smooth out the variance a bit in big spots. And generally I'm getting it in as an equity favorite anyway, so keeps me from getting too hurt when they do suckout (there were a number of big pots about 2 weeks ago where if I only ran it once, despite being a monster favorite all three hands, I would've lost on the first board runout and gotten stacked)

What's funny is the colluding cubans at luckys will go twice with some players, and only once with others. They only go once with me, they don't like the gringo. And I've gotten them in as 80/20 and 70/30 dogs multiple times the past few pots we've played and they managed to win going once. But they will long-term lose to me so that's fine, run it once it is.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:06 PM#475

Gave her a much needed bath this morning

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:07 PM#476

It helps smooth out the variance a bit in big spots.

I'm not playing the same stakes as you, and I'm not playing for rent money. Running it twice in a heads-up flip seems meh. But running it twice when you are a favorite or there is a third person in the pot, seems to either control variance or allow you the chop dead money.

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:09 PM#477

I had :ad::ac::jh::tc:

So one nut suit

Pretty much this is the plo standard way if describing your hand. It is either one suited or two suited or rainbow - sometimes you hear no suits or naked aces. It describes the number of suits you control.

Using '3 suited' is cray cray.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:11 PM#478

I'm not playing the same stakes as you, and I'm not playing for rent money. Running it twice in a heads-up flip seems meh. But running it twice when you are a favorite or there is a third person in the pot, seems to either control variance or allow you the chip dead money.

It's pretty rare in my experience that my equity is 50/50

Usually when I get it in I'm 60% or greater. Now I have been 50% equity 3 ways which is fine

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:13 PM#479

Pretty much this is the plo standard way if describing your hand. It is either one suited or two suited or rainbow. It describes the number of suits you control.

Using '3 suited' is cray cray.

So :ah::ad::ks::8s: is what? Rainbow, because there is no NFD.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:14 PM#480

So :ah::ad::ks::8s: is what? Rainbow, because there is no NFD.

It doesn't have to be a nut suit for you to call a hand suited

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:18 PM#481

Would you call :5c::tc::ad::kh: suited? A 10 high flush feels really thin in Omaha.

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:19 PM#482

Yeah you could say 'I had :5h::6c::7c::8h:double suited rundown'.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 1:19 PM#483

Would you call :5c::tc::ad::kh: suited? A 10 high flush feels really thin in Omaha.

Yes, still suited

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 2:13 PM#484

Go time

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 2:48 PM#486

I want a set of those chips!

I like them except for the edge spots

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 4:06 PM#487

Ooch, rough start. I raise pot on the flop here to $180 and get one caller who bet the flop

Spikes the perfect :ts: on the turn snd puts his ladt $400 in. I have 2nd nut straight. Plus turned a flush draw (that's no good if I hit) and top 2 pr which becomes a must call

He holds

REBUY!

Av8tionMicro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 4:26 PM#488

Ooch, rough start. I raise pot on the flop here to $180 and get one caller who bet the flop

View attachment 513353 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/513353/)

Spikes the perfect :ts: on the turn snd puts his ladt $400 in. I have 2nd nut straight. Plus turned a flush draw (that's no good if I hit) and top 2 pr which becomes a must call

He holds

REBUY!

CHIIIIIIPS....

Honestly I just can't stand PLO... too swingy for my tastes.... give me 20/40 or 40/80 hold'em any day...

mike32Regular54 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 4:31 PM#489

Ooch, rough start. I raise pot on the flop here to $180 and get one caller who bet the flop

View attachment 513353 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/513353/)

Spikes the perfect :ts: on the turn snd puts his ladt $400 in. I have 2nd nut straight. Plus turned a flush draw (that's no good if I hit) and top 2 pr which becomes a must call

He holds

REBUY!

To me this hand sums up your life as a professional Omaha player. Not that you did anything wrong, just that I think these situations are going to come up all the time. No way I could handle doing this for a living!

Question - I have seen you reference Asians and Cubans several times in your posts about hands. Do you play different against people you think are a certain race?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 4:39 PM#490

To me this hand sums up your life as a professional Omaha player. Not that you did anything wrong, just that I think these situations are going to come up all the time. No way I could handle doing this for a living!

Question - I have seen you reference Asians and Cubans several times in your posts about hands. Do you play different against people you think are a certain race?

The two cubans are regulars in the game, play terrible and are known to collude (always sit in seats 1 and 6 to try and trap folks in the "Cuban sandwich")

Asian players have an image of being more LAG and likely to gamble, which has been my experience

Then you've got OMC which is typically a white older man who plays very tight

Generally I play more hands against the bad players, so they come up more frequently

But yes, I will stereotype a player based on first visual impressions and adjust as I gain more info

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 4:46 PM#491

always sit in seats 1 and 6 to try and trap folks in the "Cuban sandwich"

I love this, hilarious. Has this term been vocalized?

And this is all I could imagine.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 4:48 PM#492

Ooch, rough start. I raise pot on the flop here to $180 and get one caller who bet the flop

View attachment 513353 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/513353/)

Spikes the perfect :ts: on the turn snd puts his ladt $400 in. I have 2nd nut straight. Plus turned a flush draw (that's no good if I hit) and top 2 pr which becomes a must call

He holds

REBUY!

Actually, didn't rebuy this hand. Had guy covered, still had about 200-250 left. Got the last of it in with a slight equity edge holding the double s00ted 8864 but they flopped TJQ lol

Then I rebought

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 5:12 PM#494

Actually, didn't rebuy this hand. Had guy covered, still had about 200-250 left. Got the last of it in with a slight equity edge holding the double s00ted 8864 but they flopped TJQ lol

View attachment 513386 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/513386/)

Then I rebought

How did this hand play out?

Did this happen right after the beat and it was kind of an F it, let's gamble and try to triple up?

Trying to understand why this hand is worth flipping 50BB. Maybe I'm too nitty but I'm going to save these chips, reload, and find a better spot post flop to stack these casino donks.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 5:16 PM#495

How did this hand play out?

Did this happen right after the beat and it was kind of an F it, let's gamble and try to triple up?

Trying to understand why this hand is worth flipping 50BB. Maybe I'm too nitty but I'm going to save these chips, reload, and find a better spot post flop to stack these casino donks.

I was button $5 straddle, BB was $10 restraddle

UTG aggressive gambler raised to $20, bunch of callers, I call

BB shorter stacked and aggressive repots, UTG repots, folds to me, figured my hand had decent equity and got it in

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 5:19 PM#496

I was button $5 straddle, BB was $10 restraddle

UTG aggressive gambler raised to $20, bunch of callers, I call

BB shorter stacked and aggressive repots, UTG repots, folds to me, figured my hand had decent equity and got it in

Figured I win that hand I'm back to even. I lose I rebuy

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 5:41 PM#497

Ooch, lots of setups today

Have :as::ts::9s::8h: on a flop of :2d::7s::th:

Four ways in a raised pot, $100 in there

Checked to me on flop, I pot, only guy on my right calls

Turn :td:

Checks to me, I pot 300, he goes all-in for $465 total so $165 more to me

I call, he only goes once and has J776 and holds with a Q river, le sigh

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 6:40 PM#498

Limp repotted :as::kd::qh::jh: and got it all-in vs :jd::8s::6h::5d: with some dead money

Went one flop, two turns and rivers, I scoop and back up over $700

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 6:48 PM#499

Limp repotted :as::kd::qh::jh: and got it all-in vs :jd::8s::6h::5d: with some dead money

Went one flop, two turns and rivers, I scoop and back up over $700

You really should be printing money on these players playing that garbage. Embrace the variance and you'll make a small mint as long as you keep getting your money in well.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 6:49 PM#500

You really should be printing money on these players playing that garbage. Embrace the variance and you'll make a small mint as long as you keep getting your money in well.

Oh yeah, just had some sick coolers today to start off

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 6:55 PM#501

Lol, maniac with :kc::7d::6c::2h: called an all-in from the tightest player in the game on the following board

:3s::6d::7s::jh:

And drills the :7c: river lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 7:32 PM#502

Bwah ha ha, fucking cuban gets it in preflop with :jd::9d::4c::3c: 3-ways for $1500 and beats :ah::ad::kh::2c: and :qs::ts::td::8c: when they go once, flop JJ3....Q..9 and the 9 gives one a straight, one a flush and boats him lol

monkeydogMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 7:40 PM#503

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 7:41 PM#504

He got it in against AKQT on a QJT flop with AJ84 all hearts with two spades on the flop

Other guy flopped nuts AND had nfd, turns a K of clubs for the chop even though other guy freerolling him with nfd and top 2 pr

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 7:50 PM#506

He started defending his call shouting "DOUBLE S00TED!"

That's the kind of shit I lose to when I flop a set or a straight and then they runner runner a flush.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 7:51 PM#507

That's the kind of shit I lose to when I flop a set or a straight and then they runner runner a flush.

That's how you know the game is good

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 8:22 PM#509

He got it in against AKQT on a AQT flop with AJ84 all hearts with two spades on the flop

Other guy flopped nuts AND had nfd, turns a K of clubs for the chop even though other guy freerolling him with nfd and top 2 pr

How is that a chop?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 9:09 PM#510

Sorry h

How is that a chop?

Sorry, the flop was QJT

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 9:14 PM#511

Bwah ha ha, fucking cuban gets it in preflop with :jd::9d::4c::3c: 3-ways for $1500 and beats :ah::ad::kh::2c: and :qs::ts::td::8c: when they go once, flop JJ3....Q..9 and the 9 gives one a straight, one a flush and boats him lol

Actually he flopped a boat and rivered a better boat.

He knew it was coming.

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 9:28 PM#512

Lol, maniac with :kc::7d::6c::2h: called an all-in from the tightest player in the game on the following board

:3s::6d::7s::jh:

And drills the :7c: river lol

What did the nit have? 45?

How did it play preflop? Stack sizes? What was the betting like on the flop? Turn? SPR?

It appears like these players have no care about hand selection.

Damn, this thread has me itching to play. Not likely that any casinos around me will open before 2021. This pandemic really really sucks.

Appreciate this thread, can at least live vicariously through your experience.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 10:51 PM#514

Actually he flopped a boat and rivered a better boat.

He knew it was coming.

Sorry it's been a crazy day, maybe he didn't flop the 3, I know he didn't fill up until the river

What did the nit have? 45?

How did it play preflop? Stack sizes? What was the betting like on the flop? Turn? SPR?

It appears like these players have no care about hand selection.

Damn, this thread has me itching to play. Not likely that any casinos around me will open before 2021. This pandemic really really sucks.

Appreciate this thread, can at least live vicariously through your experience.

Nit didn't show because maniac flipped over his boat. Had OMC muttering to himself

Was crazy to sit in this game looking at the crazy colluding cuban sitting on 6k in chips (max buyin is 1k) while I'm losing

At least I lost my chips to some of the other maniacs. Was almost down 2k on the day but fought back a little to lose $1,385

The cubans just run so well playing like absolute garbage, they've been getting it in bad for weeks and winning

But at least this just reinforces their shitty play, it will catch up to them, but in the short term they are running well

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 17, 2020, 11:42 PM#515

Anthony, regarding your signature. Looks like you may be on a downswing due to bad variance. Unfortunately, I cannot help you with your bankroll, however, I will gladly send you some bubblegum if you PM me your address.

What is your favorite flavor?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 12:54 AM#516

Anthony, regarding your signature. Looks like you may be on a downswing due to bad variance. Unfortunately, I cannot help you with your bankroll, however, I will gladly send you some bubblegum if you PM me your address.

What is your favorite flavor?

Lol. Well, this time around my losing hands were more bad luck than bad play by my opponents. I can't fault my opponent in either hand for the way it went down. In one he had the top wrap draw on the flop, despite being a 4:1 dog at that juncture. And in the other, it was a cooler that I flop the open-ender on a rainbow board, turn trips and run into middle set that filled up.

So it wasn't like my opponents were in hands they "shouldn't" have been. Felt worse for the guys losing to the J943 double s00ted than anything. That was just so gross.

Anyway, back to your question, I'm a Watermelon flavor gum fan, although Grape and Strawberry are good too.

NuhockeyNewbie3 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 5:22 AM#517

I love this, hilarious. Has this term been vocalized?

And this is all I could imagine.

View attachment 513384 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/513384/)

Tell me who doesn't want to wear the Aids Ribbon?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 6:31 PM#518

alright, here's another clip that's private, so can only view it with the link. Been finally getting around to merging my gameplay clips with clips of me "playing" and had some fun with this one, make sure to select the highest quality viewing for better footage.

But here's a quick glance at me "in action", as always, feedback and criticism welcomed!

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 6:32 PM#519

alright, here's another clip that's private, so can only view it with the link. Been finally getting around to merging my gameplay clips with clips of me "playing" and had some fun with this one, make sure to select the highest quality viewing for better footage.

But here's a quick glance at me "in action", as always, feedback and criticism welcomed!

Oh that's fu**ing gold. Was waiting what the C was for.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing more.

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 6:46 PM#520

alright, here's another clip that's private, so can only view it with the link. Been finally getting around to merging my gameplay clips with clips of me "playing" and had some fun with this one, make sure to select the highest quality viewing for better footage.

But here's a quick glance at me "in action", as always, feedback and criticism welcomed!

This... this is entertainment potential in spades. I hope this takes off for you!

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 6:57 PM#521

If you can keep stringing together clips like that, I'd be clicking "subscribe" and ringing the bell.

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 7:12 PM#522

alright, here's another clip that's private, so can only view it with the link. Been finally getting around to merging my gameplay clips with clips of me "playing" and had some fun with this one, make sure to select the highest quality viewing for better footage.

But here's a quick glance at me "in action", as always, feedback and criticism welcomed!

This is gold. I can't wait to subscribe.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 9:13 PM#523

Wow, thank you all so much, wasn't expecting that positive of a response! Kinda invigorates me to keep at it!

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 9:26 PM#524

As someone who used to write a lot of comical reviews, I quickly learned that my in a fairly short time I had exhausted my "A" material, and was soon drawing upon "B" material. By the 3rd year, I wrote less and less, because I just couldn't maintain enough fresh energy. Occasionally I would stumble upon a gem, but I learned to understand why "high frequency" comedians (comedy news, late night talk, skit shows, etc.) maintain a team of comedy writers. It's a lot of fun, until it becomes work.

Now I stick to trip reports. It helps to maintain a level of spontaneity, a key factor to enjoying my own work. Even then I think my trip reports kinda trail off by the end, but a week of free alcohol and Vegas may be a factor.

Hopefully, you have enough to keep you going. I'm looking forward to it.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 9:30 PM#525

As someone who used to write a lot of comical reviews, I quickly learned that my in a fairly short time I had exhausted my "A" material, and was soon drawing upon "B" material. By the 3rd year, I wrote less and less, because I just couldn't maintain enough fresh energy. Occasionally I would stumble upon a gem, but I learned to understand why "high frequency" comedians (comedy news, late night talk, skit shows, etc.) maintain a team of comedy writers. It's a lot of fun, until it becomes work.

Now I stick to trip reports. It helps to maintain a level of spontaneity, a key factor to enjoying my own work. Even then I think my trip reports kinda trail off by the end, but a week of free alcohol and Vegas may be a factor.

Hopefully, you have enough to keep you going. I'm looking forward to it.

Thanks! I think with the election on the horizon it's a great time to launch this thing, and should have plenty of relevent humor to rip from the headlines

Eventually I hope to do live streams of this, which will take some improvisation to make it work, but hoping I can keep it fresh

I know some of the bigger streamers out there have teams of people to help them with a variety of things, tech, business deals and sponsorships, etc. I'm sure I'd probably need bit idea help as well

RieguyMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 9:41 PM#526

Are you trying to stick to FPS content like COD or a variety of gaming?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 9:44 PM#527

Are you trying to stick to FPS content like COD or a variety of gaming?

I play a wide variety of games and already have some fun ideas for videos with other non-FPS games that I think will mesh well for this style of satire. However, if this eventually transitions to streaming, FPS will most likely mesh the best for that format, although I'd likely include some other game styles from time to time (RTS, RPG, etc)

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 9:47 PM#528

The amount of views that highly racist or ignorant streamers get is mind boggling. It's mostly views just for the cringe, and the users quickly find themselves banned. It's not so much viral, as it is they're regularly sought after and shared. Streams tend to die out from them having to create new ones so often, but the Youtube and other media plays can get quite high.

I would think that something like this caters to that cringe factor, while also maintaining the entertainment of it all. I would think that you'd have a shot (small as it is) at possibly making this work and monetizing it one day.

The amount of pre work that would have to go into your streaming though at some point would be quite a bit of work. No different than comedians and entertainers working on and refining their content. Unless you're amazing on the spot, or could possibly hone in to this character extremely well and just naturally plug and play as "him" for hours.

Either way, it's fantastic. Don't forget us little people when you're at the top Duo'ing with Dr. DisRespect. (I'd enjoy watching that too)

RieguyMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 9:52 PM#529

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Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 10:11 PM#530

The amount of views that highly racist or ignorant streamers get is mind boggling. It's mostly views just for the cringe, and the users quickly find themselves banned. It's not so much viral, as it is they're regularly sought after and shared. Streams tend to die out from them having to create new ones so often, but the Youtube and other media plays can get quite high.

I would think that something like this caters to that cringe factor, while also maintaining the entertainment of it all. I would think that you'd have a shot (small as it is) at possibly making this work and monetizing it one day.

The amount of pre work that would have to go into your streaming though at some point would be quite a bit of work. No different than comedians and entertainers working on and refining their content. Unless you're amazing on the spot, or could possibly hone in to this character extremely well and just naturally plug and play as "him" for hours.

Either way, it's fantastic. Don't forget us little people when you're at the top Duo'ing with Dr. DisRespect. (I'd enjoy watching that too)

I've always enjoyed making people laugh and generally have a fairly quick wit, so think I have a shot at making it work, even live and on stream. I think people get a kick out of Dr Disprespect raging so hard at situations, he certainly plays the WWE-style character well.

If you are intent on playing a character and enjoy satire/improvisation, there is a Twitch/streaming category for GTA-V Roleplay that is extremely popular. I just checked and it is currently the third most viewed game/category at this moment with ~217k viewers. People quite literally create made-up characters and go around the city interacting with others; there are specific jobs, roles, etc. Probably extremely hard to get into the more popular communities there, but figured I would mention it if you want to check it out and since it seems up your alley. Feel free to DM me with questions if you prefer not to discuss this kind of stuff in your pro poker thread!

GTA is for console peasants, I am PC Master Race good sir, how dare you make such an assumption! I demand satisfaction!

Oh shit, I have a Wii U and love me some Mario Kart 8 though, my bad. I enjoyed some of the older GTA games back in the day when I had a console, going back to the 90's probably. Never found it that great on PC though, controls just felt wonky for me.

RieguyMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 10:25 PM#531

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Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 18, 2020, 10:29 PM#532

What I am referring to is all on PC with custom servers. It is more popular than any game right now besides Fall Guys, Call of Duty, and sometimes Fortnite, and has been for the past year or so. Summit1G and other big names frequent the specific server. It is hard to explain exactly what it is, but if you have free time, check out people on Twitch with "NoPixel" in their streaming title. These people are making tons of cash in this category.

Thanks, I'll check into it, although at the end of the day I will focus on things I have a passion for to ensure that I not only enjoy it but can produce engaging content on a regular basis. I don't want to do something just because there's money in it (although I'd monetize my sleep if I could)

Chester CopperpotNewbie2 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 4:11 AM#533

Are you ever the guy that shows up and others say “this game just got a lot worse, peace out”?

In terms of GTA, I am probably the best Buzzard pilot on PS4. At last check, I think I have over 600 hours flying the Buzzard in the game. Awesome helicopter.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 9:43 AM#534

Are you ever the guy that shows up and others say “this game just got a lot worse, peace out”?

In terms of GTA, I am probably the best Buzzard pilot on PS4. At last check, I think I have over 600 hours flying the Buzzard in the game. Awesome helicopter.

People don't get up and leave the game because I sat down, but I'm definetly not the preferred player to be taking a seat. I know I wouldn't want me at my table

I flew chopper in the Battlefield games, but was only passable at it, nothing amazing

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 11:33 AM#535

Lol at this thread.

A.M.: "I'm a professional poker player."

[Bad beat]

[Bad beat]

[Bad beat]

[5 second clip of COD]

Us: "That's awesome! Can't wait to see more!"

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 11:38 AM#536

Lol at this thread.

A.M.: "I'm a professional poker player."

[Bad beat]

[Bad beat]

[Bad beat]

[5 second clip of COD]

Us: "That's awesome! Can't wait to see more!"

I know my audience!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 11:40 AM#537

I will say this. I'm working on my video right now and a proper musical score can make or break it, my god am I having some fun with this!

mike32Regular54 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 1:26 PM#538

I'm old(er) and I don't understand why people watch videos of people playing video games. I would never watch your videos, but it is the content not necessarily you. I I didn't find it funny either. Then again I'm sure 52 year old men are not your target demographic.

Gosh now I feel kind of Pltyrgstish. But you did ask!

SiouxperStackNewbie4 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 1:28 PM#539

alright, here's another clip that's private, so can only view it with the link. Been finally getting around to merging my gameplay clips with clips of me "playing" and had some fun with this one, make sure to select the highest quality viewing for better footage.

But here's a quick glance at me "in action", as always, feedback and criticism welcomed!

looks like me getting killed in the Quarry

SiouxperStackNewbie4 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 1:34 PM#540

I gave a like and subscribed.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 1:41 PM#541

I'm just waiting for the Martino world tour, so we can see pics of chips from other locations. o_O

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 1:51 PM#542

I'm old(er) and I don't understand why people watch videos of people playing video games. I would never watch your videos, but it is the content not necessarily you. I didn't find it funny either. Then again I'm sure 52 year old men are not your target demographic.

I got this Anthony.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 1:51 PM#543

looks like me getting killed in the Quarry

In Warzone I tend to try and drop in areas that are less likely to be landing zones for others, so I can get myself established with weaponry and armor first while other people kill each other off, since the goal is to finish 1st, so it doesn't matter if you only kill 1 other person, so long as you win.

Haven't gotten there yet in the 150 player matches, but had a bunch where I've finished top 5.

I'm just waiting for the Martino world tour, so we can see pics of chips from other locations. o_O

Well, once I've made my millions off this crazy USAnumberWON idea the world will be my oyster and I can play poker more for fun and try out new exotic locales........like Cleveland!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 1:54 PM#544

I'm old(er) and I don't understand why people watch videos of people playing video games. I would never watch your videos, but it is the content not necessarily you. I I didn't find it funny either. Then again I'm sure 52 year old men are not your target demographic.

Gosh now I feel kind of Pltyrgstish. But you did ask!

I'm 43 and I don't get the appeal of watching others play games either, I'd rather play them myself. Generally I think the appeal of people who do get views include something below:

  1. They are extremely good at the game

  2. They are entertaining to watch

  3. They engage their audience and make them feel special by calling them out and responding to them in chat

  4. They are girls with bewbs

That being said, my approach is going to be political satire, so it will hopefully appeal to an older demographic, especially in our current political climate. Starting out I'll just be putting out focused/edited Youtube videos, with the hope to go into live streaming at some point closer to the end of the year or beginning of next.

But I do appreciate your honest feedback.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 1:59 PM#546

That being said, my approach is going to be political satire, so it will hopefully appeal to an older demographic, especially in our current political climate.

So, the Colbert Report with video gaming?

SiouxperStackNewbie4 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 2:03 PM#547

what system you on?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 2:21 PM#548

what system you on?

Do you mean the specs of my pc?

SiouxperStackNewbie4 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 3:46 PM#549

Do you mean the specs of my pc?

no I meant PS4, Xbox, PC.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 3:51 PM#550

no I meant PS4, Xbox, PC.

I am no console peasant good sir!

monkeydogMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 5:44 PM#551

JFC - back to poker please!!

This thread is one of the few recent ones that I look forward to every time it's bumped...maybe start a second thread "my journey as a OnlyFan gamer";)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 6:14 PM#552

JFC - back to poker please!!

This thread is one of the few recent ones that I look forward to every time it's bumped...maybe start a second thread "my journey as a OnlyFan gamer";)

So that's a no on purchasing my bathwater?

monkeydogMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 6:22 PM#553

So that's a no on purchasing my bathwater?

As long as it's after a session in the casino vs a session of gaming...most cam girls can only offer one flavour - you can offer two!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 6:24 PM#554

As long as it's after a session in the casino vs a session of gaming...most cam girls can only offer one flavour - you can offer two!

I think we just found my business manager!

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 9:27 PM#555

Consoles are for people who hate America!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 9:37 PM#556

Consoles are for people who hate America!

30 fps is for fucking commies!

Av8tionMicro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 11:35 PM#557

I am no console peasant good sir!

Neither am I...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 19, 2020, 11:36 PM#558

Neither am I...

I've only got one big ass 32 or 34" 1440p monitor right now, but in the future will likely go multi-monitor

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 20, 2020, 12:19 AM#559

Neither am I...

That's a lot of screens just to watch porn.

Av8tionMicro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Aug 20, 2020, 12:28 AM#560

That's a lot of screens just to watch porn.

They say variety is the spice of life....

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Aug 20, 2020, 12:30 AM#561

They say variety is the spice of life....

Which is why Anthony is holding out for triplets.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 22, 2020, 6:48 AM#562

Took Thursday off cause I was making great progress on my video and wanted to ride the momentum

It's 2:45am on Sat morning and back at it. Surprisingly the 2/5/10 PLO broke early so only two tables of 1/2 running, just got my seat

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 22, 2020, 7:02 AM#563

Well that didn't take long. My first hand UTG dealt

:ah::ad::kh::qs:

Button straddled to $5, BB raises to $10, I just call

UTG+1 makes it $45, CO calls, BB calls, we spring the trap and repot to $240

THEY ALL CALL!!!!

Flop :js::td::3h:

BB checks, I shove my last $260, EVERYONE CALLS (bb all-in for less)

Turn :4c:

River :9d:

We roll over the nuts and scoop!

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 22, 2020, 11:40 AM#564

Nice hit, @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/)! What did the others show? Where'd you end up last night (this morning)? I'll take my answer when you wake up...around noon?

$1/$2 has a $500 buyin?

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 22, 2020, 12:04 PM#565

My first hand UTG

BB raises to $10, I just call

UTG makes it $45

View attachment 517441 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/517441/)

The call-raise preflop must be one of the fancy techniques only pros know.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 22, 2020, 1:39 PM#566

Nice hit, @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/)! What did the others show? Where'd you end up last night (this morning)? I'll take my answer when you wake up...around noon?

$1/$2 has a $500 buyin?

Others didn't show since I turned over the stone cold nutter butters to not delay the game

Guy on my left said he wished the 9 on the river had been a 7 or 8, and right before showdown muttered "your aces are good"

I actually only played under an hour and a half before the game broke. Profit on the session was $1,380

For a Friday night into Saturday morning the games broke pretty early. When I was on my way there I had called ahead to get on the list for 2/5/10

Upon arrival it was broken already but they had two 1/2 PLO games running

and yes, the 1/2 PLO is $100-500 buyins at Hard Rock Tampa with an option for one $5 restraddle with the button getting preferance over other positions

the 1/2 at Luckys is 200-1k but also a mandatory $5 button straddle and unlimited restraddles

The call-raise preflop must be one of the fancy techniques only pros know.

Doh! Updated the post, was UTG+1 on my left

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 3:45 AM#567

2/5/10 PLO in for $1500 and chipping up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 4:15 AM#568

In for $1500 out for $2040 as the 2/5/10 broke

At 1/2 PLO now

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 4:48 AM#569

In for $500 at 1/2 PLO and running pure

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 5:21 AM#570

Ooch, doubled a guy up who had $350

I have :ad::tc::6d::3h: in a raised multiway pot and see a flop of

:3d::6h::8d:

I'm first to act in the blinds and pot, he calls(wasn't the original raiser)

Turn :th:

I check, he pots and we get it in. I have 3 pair and nfd, he has

:kh::7h::8c::8s: for a flopped set and the turned flush draw

He holds, whomp whomp

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 5:31 AM#571

K788 sooted seems asking for trouble in a raised multiway pot. He escaped though...this time...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 5:32 AM#572

K788 sooted seems asking for trouble in a raised multiway pot. He escaped though...this time...

He's still at the table. He'll fuck up and I'll be waiting

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 5:48 AM#573

Just broke the game, busted 4 guys. Got it in pre with

:ac::qd::tc::7d:

Flop was :kc::8c::5h: then :5c::7c:

One guy had J high. Another q high clubs. My ace high was good. No boats

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 6:33 AM#574

Just broke the game, busted 4 guys. Got it in pre with

:ac::qd::tc::7d:

Flop was :kc::8c::5h: then :5c::7c:

One guy had J high. Another q high clubs. My ace high was good. No boats

View attachment 518135 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/518135/)

Unfortunately I had everyone covered, one guy had $85, another $100, $125 and the last guy around $200 so didn't win a ton but at least won it

Hand played out like this

Button straddles to 5

Hero in SB calls, BB calls

UTG makes it 25 (he previously raised after limpers OOP with 2338 so we know he is bad)

next to act calls

CO calls

Straddle pots it (he's been losing and is on tilt)

Hero repots

Original raiser and two callers after him get it in

Anyway, won about a grand for the day so can't complain :)

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 23, 2020, 1:26 PM#575

Dealer need to color that up to 4 grapes for you...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 24, 2020, 2:06 PM#576

It has begun!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 24, 2020, 2:17 PM#577

Chipping up early

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 25, 2020, 2:05 AM#578

Gave a little bit back but ended the session +$301. They can't all be homeruns, but it was a win, so can't complain too much. This week the Cubans switched roles, with Seat 6 being the loser while Seat 1 just couldn't miss, spiking just about every river card he needed including a 1-outer in massive multi-way pots. He was sitting on over 3 grand when I left.

I picked up :ah::ad::5h::6h: and was able to repot preflop to $165 but got THREE FUCKING CALLERS, cause, you know, EVERYONE has a $165 hand, lol.

After a flop of :ks::js::8c: had to let it go when a guy potted the flop and got a customer. Wasn't able to really make any big uppercut knockout punches to anyone today, but didn't lose $1400 like last week, so I'll take the win.

A couple of guys ran positively awful, flopping bottom set and both times losing to top two pair that boated on the rivers against them. One of them also flopped a monster only to lose to a guy who had one pair and a backdoor draw that got there when he chased and runner-runnered the nut flush.

Aside from that, I did some additional editing of my video this evening, and am hopeful I can finish it within the next week or two and do an official release (may create a new thread at that time to separate the two worlds.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 25, 2020, 10:34 AM#579

My updated graph by session

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 27, 2020, 8:11 PM#581

I have completed the launch video for USAnumberWON, and scheduled it to go live tomorrow, Friday August 28th, at noon Eastern Standard Time.

I will create a new thread tomorrow for this new project so I can keep it and poker discussions separate :)

DarthhoodieMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Aug 27, 2020, 8:32 PM#582

@Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) I'm a dumb ass where do I go to subscribe to your channel the YouTube?

Seriously what's it called

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 27, 2020, 9:45 PM#584

Subscribed. You better not disappoint me or I'll give your video a :tdown:.

:ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Aug 27, 2020, 9:46 PM#585

Subscribed. You better not disappoint me or I'll give your video a :tdown:.

:ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 27, 2020, 9:50 PM#586

Subscribed. You better not disappoint me or I'll give your video a :tdown:.

:ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Even dislikes are considered "engagement" in the algorithms :D

DarthhoodieMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Aug 28, 2020, 12:48 AM#587

Subscribed!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 28, 2020, 12:50 AM#588

Subscribed!

I guarantee you'll love it.......or your money back!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 5:16 AM#590

1:15am and getting ready to drive down

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 6:45 AM#591

It's go-time!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 7:10 AM#592

Always good to start off on the right foot

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 7:22 AM#593

LFG!

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:28 PM#594

I always found it disrespectful and/or bragadocious to take a picture of a large pot just pushed to me... And in home games, with chippers, it's not as weird to take chip stack pictures... But I don't think I've ever taken them in a casino. Maybe racked up and walking to the cage...

Are you the only only taking chip pics throughout the night?

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:31 PM#595

He takes pictures of his loser stacks too. As long as he is taking pics no matter what, it’s not bragging, it’s a documentary.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:33 PM#596

I always found it disrespectful and/or bragadocious to take a picture of a large pot just pushed to me... And in home games, with chippers, it's not as weird to take chip stack pictures... But I don't think I've ever taken them in a casino. Maybe racked up and walking to the cage...

Are you the only only taking chip pics throughout the night?

I take them quickly without fanfare or calling attention to myself, so it just looks like I'm using my phone

And with the plexiglass dividers we can barely see each other anyway

JambineMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:35 PM#597

I always found it disrespectful and/or bragadocious to take a picture of a large pot just pushed to me... And in home games, with chippers, it's not as weird to take chip stack pictures... But I don't think I've ever taken them in a casino. Maybe racked up and walking to the cage...

Are you the only only taking chip pics throughout the night?

Most casinos don't allow pics. You might get a couple before an employee tells you no pics please

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:36 PM#598

He takes pictures of his loser stacks too. As long as he is taking pics no matter what, it’s not bragging, it’s a documentary.

Well, I was thinking maybe the pushed pot pic was after the other player had been felted and left the table, so he wasn't rubbing it in their face (or maybe he doesn't see it that way). But I was curious of his opinions.

And I've never seen others take chip stack pics at a casino. Wondering if others do it too.

I take them quickly without fanfare or calling attention to myself, so it just looks like I'm using my phone

And with the plexiglass dividers we can barely see each other anyway

:Hat tip: Your pictures all come out great. I have to fiddle with framing and light and angle, etc, so I can't just grab a pic inconspicuously.

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:37 PM#599

It's only taunting if you text a picture of your stack to your opponent saying ”check out my stack just shipped from a total donkey!” which gives me a great idea for my next live home game.....

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:43 PM#600

More and more are starting to allow photo taking. Much the same way that cell phone use was once banned at the table, now it's more common to see a player on their phone than sipping a drink.

At some point the casinos have to accept that pics are free advertising on social media, and the player that "doesn't want to be photographed" needs to be respected, but they are in the minority.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:44 PM#601

Well, I was thinking maybe the pushed pot pic was after the other player had been felted and left the table, so he wasn't rubbing it in their face (or maybe he doesn't see it that way). But I was curious of his opinions.

And I've never seen others take chip stack pics at a casino. Wondering if others do it too.

No one was felted in those pics. But it was a nice pot

Had KQT8 on a rainbow T52 flop against a LAG who raises pre constantly and c-bets frequently

He had raised pre again, myself and one other caller

I check-call flop bet from HJ, the CO does the same, Villain on button

Turn another Ten putting two diamonds on board. I lead $300, CO calls. Villain folds

River a beautiful 8, giving me the nuts. But also completes the flush

I bet $300 again and he thinks for awhile but makes the call, squeezed some juice out of him

Was targeting another Ten there

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:47 PM#602

As Negreneau has taught us, everything you do at the poker table conveys information. Unless you are a professional blogger, I would think taking pics of chip stacks conveys that you are happy with this pot or this chipstack, i.e. the money is important to you or (if they are not a regular in the game) they might thinks it's @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/)'s first score...

EDIT: I was only asking how you take the pics, not criticizing you for doing so. I'm glad you send them... Nice to see those monster stacks. I was just wondering how/when you do it and whether it sends a negative vibe to the table...

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 2:55 PM#603

More and more are starting to allow photo taking. Much the same way that cell phone use was once banned at the table, now it's more common to see a player on their phone than sipping a drink.

At some point the casinos have to accept that pics are free advertising on social media, and the player that "doesn't want to be photographed" needs to be respected, but they are in the minority.

Phone usage in between hands or when you don't have a live hand currently should be fine. Anything more than that and you have a new Mike Postle brewing potentially.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 3:49 PM#604

As Negreneau has taught us, everything you do at the poker table conveys information. Unless you are a professional blogger, I would think taking pics of chip stacks conveys that you are happy with this pot or this chipstack, i.e. the money is important to you or (if they are not a regular in the game) they might thinks it's @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/)'s first score...

EDIT: I was only asking hownyiubtake the oicsz not criticizing you for doing so. I'm glad you send them... Nice to see those monster stacks. I was just wondering how/when you do it and whether it sends a negative vibe to the table...

I was Anthony's first score. Everyone needs to keep treating him like a fish. It's good for his bankroll, and we get to giggle at more ridiculous-beat posts.

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 4:07 PM#605

More and more are starting to allow photo taking. Much the same way that cell phone use was once banned at the table, now it's more common to see a player on their phone than sipping a drink.

At some point the casinos have to accept that pics are free advertising on social media, and the player that "doesn't want to be photographed" needs to be respected, but they are in the minority.

This

Some of my pics by number of views

A little 4-8 O8 meetup game. @courage (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/332/) @JacNoK (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/2344/) @SeekTheGrail (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/446/) @abunchofbannedmembers......

If you can't take pics without people knowing what you are doing then @k9dr (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/327/) would have been arrested/assaulted a long time ago.....

SixSpeedFuryRegular65 posts
Posted Aug 29, 2020, 5:57 PM#606

It's only taunting if you text a picture of your stack to your opponent saying ”check out my stack just shipped from a total donkey!” which gives me a great idea for my next live home game.....

Interesting idea.... :whistle: :whistling:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 2:12 AM#607

In for $500 and DESTROYING this 1/2 PLO

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 2:18 AM#608

You have a gift! And live near a large enough population to put it to use.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 2:21 AM#609

You have a gift! And live near a large enough population to put it to use.

Right place right time. Flop big and get two chasers in two big pots, dodge all their outs

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 3:21 AM#610

There's a fish at this table with too much $$$

It's my duty to relieve him of those chips, and I've got the stack to do it

Just flopped top set and nfd on a 23T board, bet pot. Got 3 callers lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 6:51 AM#611

Gave a little back, played a hand poorly and got bluffed out on the river, should've pummeled him on the flop or the turn

Regardless, still won $1,300 for the session so can't be too mad

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 3:28 PM#612

One more month will mark the 1 year anniversary since I left my job to play PLO full-time

At the end of Sep 2019 I was burnt out, managing a trucking company and working 70 hrs/week.

Exhausted and angry all the time, work following me home, I needed a change My wife said "go play poker" and here we are almost a year later.

Despite a shutdown for months due to Covid, despite having just learned PLO before I dove in.

Now I work 30-40 hrs/week and have a work/life balance I didn't have before, and I'm persuing other interests and revenue streams in my free time.

JambineMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 3:32 PM#613

work following me home

nuf said

tyrion1705Newbie4 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 3:34 PM#614

Thanks for the all of the updates, I love this thread.

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 3:36 PM#615

One more month will mark the 1 year anniversary since I left my job to play PLO full-time

At the end of Sep 2019 I was burnt out, managing a trucking company and working 70 hrs/week.

Exhausted and angry all the time, work following me home, I needed a change My wife said "go play poker" and here we are almost a year later.

Despite a shutdown for months due to Covid, despite having just learned PLO before I dove in.

Now I work 30-40 hrs/week and have a work/life balance I didn't have before, and I'm persuing other interests and revenue streams in my free time.

View attachment 523618 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/523618/)View attachment 523619 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/523619/)View attachment 523620 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/523620/)View attachment 523621 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/523621/)View attachment 523622 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/523622/)View attachment 523623 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/523623/)View attachment 523624 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/523624/)

Big ups to the wife in all this.

JambineMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 3:44 PM#616

My wife said "go play poker"

My wife only says that to get rid of me (or she wants new draperies in the living room)

DarthhoodieMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 8:27 PM#617

I love to follow this thread and definitely rooting for you! Go get'm tiger!

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 8:28 PM#618

I love to follow this thread and defiantly rooting for you! Go get'm tiger!

Why so aggressive?

DarthhoodieMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 8:29 PM#619

Why so aggressive?

lol

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 9:06 PM#620

More and more are starting to allow photo taking. Much the same way that cell phone use was once banned at the table, now it's more common to see a player on their phone than sipping a drink.

At some point the casinos have to accept that pics are free advertising on social media, and the player that "doesn't want to be photographed" needs to be respected, but they are in the minority.

I've been chided a couple times at my local room for taking chip pics, but they've never been super strict about it unless you're really obvious.

However, it looks like they're relaxing that rule. There's a vlogger who plays in the same room (Kyle Fischl), and he recently got permission to video hands at the table and use them in his vlog.

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 9:15 PM#621

Here. I added the totals. Little more work and he can buy that missing tire back. Bold goals this year....

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 9:23 PM#622

Here. I added the totals. Little more work and he can buy that missing tire back. Bold goals this year....

View attachment 523843 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/523843/)

Anthony "Microstakes Monster" Martino

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 9:36 PM#623

Anthony "Microstakes Monster" Martino

Watch out for that guy online. pew pew

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 30, 2020, 10:06 PM#624

Watch out for that guy online. pew pew

Coming to a $0.05/$0.10 table.....near you!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 31, 2020, 2:41 PM#625

Time for that Monday morning PLO

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 31, 2020, 4:26 PM#626

In for 1k

AA93 one suit holds up in a 3 way all-in running 1 time

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 31, 2020, 5:05 PM#627

Flopped top set, turned 2nd nfd, boated river against turned gutshot straight

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 31, 2020, 7:28 PM#628

I think 3 guys were in cahoots so I got out of dodge before they got me today, left up a grand.

One straddles to 10, everyone calls, straddler makes it 50, we're all calling until last guy who makes it $255 and straddler cold calls. Pushes everyone out (third guy didn't get involved in this one)

They show up with T862 one suit and AKQ9 no suits respectively

They go once with everyone at the table but twice with each other and just smelled super fishy when the guy is calling the 10, letting his buddy make it 50 and then repopping to 255 with T862 one suit

I did lose $430 of my profit when I flopped top set on a TJK two heart board and was up against a guy with AQxx hearts. Flop checked around, I pot the blank turn for $325, he just calls with $100 behind and river is 9 hearts but he was ahead the whole way

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Aug 31, 2020, 8:13 PM#629

I think 3 guys were in cahoots so I got out of dodge before they got me today

Were they regulars to that room or others you go to? Did you inform the floorperson of your suspicions?

shorticusShark143 posts
Posted Aug 31, 2020, 8:17 PM#630

Were they regulars to that room or others you go to? Did you inform the floorperson of your suspicions?

This is interesting. Can you stop them from doing so? Obviously unethical and horrible, I’m questioning how easy it is to prove and can they be punished for something that’s gonna be hard to prove.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Aug 31, 2020, 8:21 PM#631

Were they regulars to that room or others you go to? Did you inform the floorperson of your suspicions?

This is interesting. Can you stop them from doing so? Obviously unethical and horrible, I’m questioning how easy it is to prove and can they be punished for something that’s gonna be hard to prove.

Two are regulars, the two colluding cubans. In this particular hand there was a third guy (not sure if he's cuban but he is hispanic) that was the one constantly straddling preflop to 10 and then popping it to 50 everytime people called.

But when the first cuban in seat 1 traps everyone in between who is calling this guys constant raises and repops it over $250 with T862 it just raises a lot of red flags, especially when those two will go twice with one another but once with everyone else.

I'm friends with the manager on Facebook so messaged him when I got home. I can handle the two colluding cubans cause they suck so bad, but you bring a third player into that mix and it makes things a lot harder.

The third guy I've played with before, and he's definitely a gambler, but in the past he always went twice. The cubans within the past month started only going once with select people at the table (myself included) and then this third player shows up and suddenly he is only running once with me as well, so it seemed like they had talked prior to the game because it makes no sense for him to make that switch when I haven't played with him since prior to Covid and always went twice prior to that.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 12:21 AM#632

So August is officially in the books. We didn't break into 5-figures like December, but it is my #2 month of all time for profit hitting the high 4-figures

Very pleased with these results. Off until later in the week, will be working on my 2nd video for USAnumberWON in my off-time

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 12:29 AM#633

Off until later in the week, will be working on my 2nd video for USAnumberWON in my off-time

You get to work with Cletus himself?! What's he like?! Does he smell more like Bud Light or Coors??

shorticusShark143 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 1:09 AM#634

So August is officially in the books. We didn't break into 5-figures like December, but it is my #2 month of all time for profit hitting the high 4-figures

Very pleased with these results. Off until later in the week, will be working on my 2nd video for USAnumberWON in my off-time

yeahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 1:11 AM#635

You get to work with Cletus himself?! What's he like?! Does he smell more like Bud Light or Coors??

Bud Light, dude is Merica as fuck!

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 2:11 PM#636

Two are regulars, the two colluding cubans. In this particular hand there was a third guy (not sure if he's cuban but he is hispanic) that was the one constantly straddling preflop to 10 and then popping it to 50 everytime people called.

But when the first cuban in seat 1 traps everyone in between who is calling this guys constant raises and repops it over $250 with T862 it just raises a lot of red flags, especially when those two will go twice with one another but once with everyone else.

I'm friends with the manager on Facebook so messaged him when I got home. I can handle the two colluding cubans cause they suck so bad, but you bring a third player into that mix and it makes things a lot harder.

The third guy I've played with before, and he's definitely a gambler, but in the past he always went twice. The cubans within the past month started only going once with select people at the table (myself included) and then this third player shows up and suddenly he is only running once with me as well, so it seemed like they had talked prior to the game because it makes no sense for him to make that switch when I haven't played with him since prior to Covid and always went twice prior to that.

I don’t think running it once/twice is considered collusion. Running it twice simply reduces variance. It is not strategic. Flip flopping during the night doesn’t give anyone an edge in any particular hand. Generally when some people run it once at the table And others run it twice (or people flip flop), I declare that I am once with everyone all night. Issue resolved.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 2:31 PM#637

I don’t think running it once/twice is considered collusion. Running it twice simply reduces variance. It is not strategic. Flip flopping during the night doesn’t give anyone an edge in any particular hand. Generally when some people run it once at the table And others run it twice (or people flip flop), I declare that I am once with everyone all night. Issue resolved.

I'm just saying that the combination of a guy I haven't seen in months suddenly going once with everyone EXCEPT the two colluding cubans, them trapping people in between and raising them out with garbage hands, AND both cubans buying in deeper than they usually do, for me, raised some red flags

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 2:36 PM#638

Agreed that the combination checks/raising and the deeper buyins are red flags.

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 2:40 PM#639

Then again, if you know for a fact that the Cubans and a third party are colluding, that's very easily exploitable in the right scenarios.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 2:42 PM#640

Then again, if you know for a fact that the Cubans and a third party are colluding, that's very easily exploitable in the right scenarios.

Generally against the two cubans it's not an issue. But a third player in the mix just makes it really difficult

I mean, yeah I can get it in for $800-$1,000 but I'm probably up against two hands at least. My hand selection will be better than theirs, but it's still two hand combos against my one

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Sep 1, 2020, 3:05 PM#641

I don’t think running it once/twice is considered collusion. Running it twice simply reduces variance. It is not strategic. Flip flopping during the night doesn’t give anyone an edge in any particular hand. Generally when some people run it once at the table And others run it twice (or people flip flop), I declare that I am once with everyone all night. Issue resolved.

100% collusion.

Trap a bunch of people, force out the dead money, run it twice to hopefully split up the money without having to do it out in the parking lot after.

Update: to be clear, running it twice is not collusion. It's the getting heads up between the colluders with dead money in the pot and running it twice so hopefully the pot is split and the two colluders get their money back and split up the dead money. In Omaha the edges between hands run much closer than holdem so it is far more likely that the pot will be split. Therefore is it far more advantageous to cheat like this in an Omaha game.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 4, 2020, 3:05 PM#644

Still making my way through this. Check out MJ at the 1 hr 23 minute mark and what he shoves the flop with

Dude had a 95% VPIP the previous stream, straight up donator. Every game needs one of these guys

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Sep 4, 2020, 5:26 PM#645

Still making my way through this. Check out MJ at the 1 hr 23 minute mark and what he shoves the flop with

Dude had a 95% VPIP the previous stream, straight up donator. Every game needs one of these guys

When they make the trip for the games down there, I see @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) & @Rhodeman77 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/605/) driving to Texas like this:

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Sep 4, 2020, 5:48 PM#646

Still making my way through this. Check out MJ at the 1 hr 23 minute mark and what he shoves the flop with

Dude had a 95% VPIP the previous stream, straight up donator. Every game needs one of these guys

Nathan still says it best...

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Sep 4, 2020, 6:11 PM#648

I feel dumber by association for watching that. I saw the previous hand where MJ shoved with overpair and got snap called by top and bottom so they obv know how bad he plays.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 4, 2020, 7:38 PM#649

I'm not that good at PLO, but if people are just jamming with TP + .... ummmm.... Nothing? It was nothing right? Then I think I can beat this game.

Pre-covid there was a woman who owns a medical device company that could drop 20k in a night in the games

I got involved in a hand with her where I flopped something wrappy (think the board was 238 and I had 4566 or something) and she spazzed off her stack with 99xx. She was flabbergasted when her overpair didn't hold up

I watched her in the 2/5/10 game where max buyin is 2k, donk off her 7k stack into the only guy at the table that had her covered

She flopped bottom set and a gutshot, on a two flush card board. He had top set, they went twice and she lost both

Some people really have zero clue and just think they are "unlucky"

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 4, 2020, 10:54 PM#650

Pre-covid there was a woman who owns a medical device company that could drop 20k in a night in the games

I got involved in a hand with her where I flopped something wrappy (think the board was 238 and I had 4566 or something) and she spazzed off her stack with 99xx. She was flabbergasted when her overpair didn't hold up

I watched her in the 2/5/10 game where max buyin is 2k, donk off her 7k stack into the only guy at the table that had her covered

She flopped bottom set and a gutshot, on a two flush card board. He had top set, they went twice and she lost both

Some people really have zero clue and just think they are "unlucky"

I must admit, I am extremely unlucky. I have not played cards against this woman. :meh:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 4, 2020, 10:56 PM#651

I must admit, I am extremely unlucky. I have not played cards against this woman. :meh:

Unfortunately I haven't seen her since things reopened. She may get invited to private higher stakes games

I remember she came right from the Gasparilla celebration to play, and the next day when I came back she was still there in the same clothes.

Degens gonna degen

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 1:28 AM#652

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 4:01 AM#653

Games super tight tonight, bounced between 1/2 and 2/5/10

Managed to luck out in 1/2 getting it in pre as a big dog. Flopped top set and FD, turned boat

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 4:04 AM#654

Games super tight tonight, bounced between 1/2 and 2/5/10

Managed to luck out in 1/2 getting it in pre as a big dog. Flopped top set and FD, turned boat

View attachment 527374 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/527374/)

Even with aces, I'm surprised villain is a 2:1 favorite over your holdings.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 4:08 AM#655

Even with aces, I'm surprised villain is a 2:1 favorite over your holdings.

Aces do best when up against another pair. Here the equities get a little better

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 5:27 AM#656

Just lost this all-in as a monster favorite.

The drooler bet into the field and called my shove, says he only goes 1 time, binks the miracle T on the turn, HURR-DURR

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 5:50 AM#657

Still making my way through this. Check out MJ at the 1 hr 23 minute mark and what he shoves the flop with

Dude had a 95% VPIP the previous stream, straight up donator. Every game needs one of these guys

I've never played exactly what they are playing here. Why are they dealing a second turn and river card?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 5:53 AM#658

I've never played exactly what they are playing here. Why are they dealing a second turn and river card?

Some places allow players to run it twice when all in

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 6:17 AM#659

Got it in preflop against the same drooler. I had KKT7 one suited King

He had AJT6 one suit, another lady all-in for less with AQ96 one suit. So I'm 50% equity 3-ways

She makes 6's full of 9's for the main pot and he runner-runners a club flush for our side pot. Le sigh

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 6:56 AM#660

In for 2k....some days the fish gotta be fed

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 5, 2020, 8:47 AM#661

was in for $2200. Managed to only lose $1,600 on the session, whomp whomp

Back at it later tonight, for now need some sleep

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 6, 2020, 10:50 AM#662

Had a great nights sleep, woke up at my 1am alarm and headed in to the casino. Got a seat in the 2/5/10 PLO pretty quickly. They had two tables going, both in the high-limit private room which was nice.

What wasn't nice is both games sucked. The other table wound up breaking, and my table was tight as hell, no action. Dropped $300 in that game before I got called for the 1/2 PLO. When I had arrived it was two games running, but when I got a seat there was only one table left. Again, very little action, if you weren't coolering someone you weren't getting paid. But at least I wasn't paying $7 every 30 minutes to be in the game, so there was that.

I managed to win back $250 in that game so took a loss of 50 bucks on the day, which was much better than yesterday. Not sure if it's because it's Labor Day Weekend and folks are out doing other stuff, but the games for a Friday and Saturday were extremely tight a good chunk of the time. The Friday night into Saturday morning 2/5/10 PLO was a good game, I just ran like shit and couldn't capitalize on it unfortunately.

Monday should be another good one at Luckys, so looking forward to that. One of my buddies from that game is getting me into a private game this Thursday which I'm excited to play. And another buddy mentioned that Oxford Downs has a really great 5/5 Big O game running Fridays from 1pm until 8am Saturday morning, they had two games running and it was a ton of action last week. Used to be private but now it's open games, so considering checking it out next week as well.

Aside from that, been battling some Sciatica pain on my right side. Moving seems to help alleviate it so trying to get more stretching in, breaks from the table and so forth.

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Sep 6, 2020, 4:07 PM#663

Good luck with sciatica. I’ve been there and it is not fun. Get steroids going If you can.

BeakertwangRegular96 posts
Posted Sep 6, 2020, 4:53 PM#664

Still making my way through this. Check out MJ at the 1 hr 23 minute mark and what he shoves the flop with

Dude had a 95% VPIP the previous stream, straight up donator. Every game needs one of these guys

I love the commentary: “you’re not going to find a book that say Everett should call there, but there’s lots of different styles. Everett just might be a great post-flop player.” :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 2:00 PM#665

Got pulled over by an unmarked cruiser this morning, just got a warning, phew

Time to win some $$$

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 2:04 PM#666

Always good to get the early suckout.

That car is a cop magnet though. It looks like it's speeding, even when standing still.

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 2:12 PM#667

Got pulled over by an unmarked cruiser this morning, just got a warning, phew

Time to win some $$$

View attachment 528429 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528429/)

Hope you can get some action today, after the last game report full of tight tables :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 2:12 PM#668

Hope you can get some action today, after the last game report full of tight tables :)

Monday at luckys is never tight

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 2:18 PM#669

Always good to get the early suckout.

That car is a cop magnet though. It looks like it's speeding, even when standing still.

What's funny is after giving me the verbal the officer said "can I ask you a question? Why do you have a firebird logo on a Nissan?"

And I said "because I thought it looks cool"

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 2:31 PM#670

What's funny is after giving me the verbal the officer said "can I ask you a question? Why do you have a firebird logo on a Nissan?"

And I said "because I thought it looks cool"

Good answer. I would have said "It makes it go faster," and then he would have gone back and issued the ticket.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:26 PM#671

Limp for 10 in a straddled pot in CO. Cuban in seat 1 makes it 75, couple callers, I repot to 680, holding KK54 one suit

He calls off most of his stack with Q932 has maybe 130 behind. Other guy with AJ43 gets it in for less

I can't play much better than this. He flops the Q, turns another one and I river a useless third 5

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:29 PM#672

Riding the variance wave... no fun on the way down

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:34 PM#673

Limp for 10 in a straddled pot in CO. Cuban in seat 1 makes it 75, couple callers, I repot to 680, holding KK54 one suit

He calls off most of his stack with Q932 has maybe 130 behind. Other guy with AJ43 gets it in for less

I can't play much better than this. He flops the Q, turns another one and I river a useless third 5

View attachment 528476 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528476/)View attachment 528477 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528477/)View attachment 528478 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528478/)View attachment 528479 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528479/)

That sucks, but question - So the Cuban is taking pictures and sending them to you? :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:35 PM#674

Riding the variance wave... no fun on the way down

Frustrating, cubans have been putting it in bad against me for a fucking month and wiggle out everytime

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:35 PM#675

That sucks, but question - So the Cuban is taking pictures and sending them to you? :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:

Nah, my buddy Will sitting next to him

BeakertwangRegular96 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:35 PM#676

Limp for 10 in a straddled pot in CO. Cuban in seat 1 makes it 75, couple callers, I repot to 680, holding KK54 one suit

He calls off most of his stack with Q932 has maybe 130 behind. Other guy with AJ43 gets it in for less

I can't play much better than this. He flops the Q, turns another one and I river a useless third 5

View attachment 528476 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528476/)View attachment 528477 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528477/)View attachment 528478 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528478/)View attachment 528479 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528479/)

Just curious, Anthony: how do you repot to $680 there? Wouldn’t you need about 6 callers of $75 plus yourself to get the pot that high.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:37 PM#677

Just curious, Anthony: how do you repot to $680 there? Wouldn’t you need about 6 callers of $75 plus yourself to get the pot that high.

Sorry, phone update has me pressing wrong buttons. Was 480 i think

BeakertwangRegular96 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:37 PM#678

Sorry, phone update has me pressing wrong buttons. Was 480 i think

Maffs is hard.

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 4:42 PM#679

Nah, my buddy Will sitting next to him

The cubans are on forodefichasdepóquer.com right now posting about the Anthony/Will Gringo sandwich they have to sit between at the casino all the time.

They're saying that you get it in good all the time against them and must be cheating, but they're still doing pretty good this month. They've also messaged their buddy the room manager about you and the suspected cheating.

edit - I need to get my ass back to work. I know some folks roll their eyes at this, but one of the more enjoyable threads for me as a gambler who will never have the time in the foreseeable future to take poker for real. Thanks for keeping this together and updating it and all that jazz.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 5:20 PM#680

Finally running pure. Pot straddled to 40, I repot to $160 with :ac::ad::9d::6s: and get THREE callers

Flop :9c::9h::8c:

Checked to me, shove my last 520, no callers

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 5:58 PM#681

edit - I need to get my ass back to work. I know some folks roll their eyes at this, but one of the more enjoyable threads for me as a gambler who will never have the time in the foreseeable future to take poker for real. Thanks for keeping this together and updating it and all that jazz.

I find myself strangely addicted to this thread as well. So many train wrecks...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 6:07 PM#682

I find myself strangely addicted to this thread as well. So many train wrecks...

Cuban in seat 1 does it again. Calls two all-ins preflop for like 1500 with 8665

He's against KKT9 one suit, didn't see the oyher hand but think it was AAxx

He flops set of 6's, turns the flush AND rivers the straight

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 6:13 PM#683

Cuban in seat 1 does it again. Calls two all-ins preflop for like 1500 with 8665

He's against KKT9 one suit, didn't see the oyher hand but think it was AAxx

He flops set of 6's, turns the flush AND rivers the straight

They've ran somewhat good lately. Would you say they're down big since you started playing regularly with them, or is this some kind of bizarre normal for them?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 6:14 PM#684

Cuban in seat 1 does it again. Calls two all-ins preflop for like 1500 with 8665

He's against KKT9 one suit, didn't see the oyher hand but think it was AAxx

He flops set of 6's, turns the flush AND rivers the straight

He had :8h::6h::6c::5s:

All-in pre

Flop :2h::6s::9h:

Turn: :7h:

River: :td:

It is unreal how good these fish are running

At least I'm up a couple hundred now. I mean, Q932 for chrissakes lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 6:16 PM#685

They've ran somewhat good lately. Would you say they're down big since you started playing regularly with them, or is this some kind of bizarre normal for them?

View attachment 528536 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/528536/)

They've been running like god for a month, but overall are losing players

Seat 6 is semi-competent. Seat 1 is an absolute drooler

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 7:41 PM#686

Getting unstuck

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 7:59 PM#687

The comeback is excellent. Good to know you are continuing to play well, and not tilting.

I can only surmise that your inability to go on tile relates to having a rock to steady you - a quick go-to of reassurance, and a place to tell the story. Basically an on-demand psychologist, or team of psychologists... PCF.

We are all happy to know that we have been able to help, over the lase 23 pages in this thread, and your profit has been staggering.

Our bill will be in the mail shortly. :cautious:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 8:40 PM#688

The comeback is excellent. Good to know you are continuing to play well, and not tilting.

I can only surmise that your inability to go on tile relates to having a rock to steady you - a quick go-to of reassurance, and a place to tell the story. Basically an on-demand psychologist, or team of psychologists... PCF.

We are all happy to know that we have been able to help, over the lase 23 pages in this thread, and your profit has been staggering.

Our bill will be in the mail shortly. :cautious:

Lol, I actually did get pretty pissed to lose to that shit, especially since my last few sessions have seen the cubans put it in bad countless times and find miracles

Still, I know it's a long-term game and stayed focused. Managed to turn a -$900 session into a +$450 one

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 9:34 PM#689

The two different $25's at Lucky's drives me nuts. Please ask the cage for all matching $25's, or at least sort them in your stack.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 10:15 PM#690

The two different $25's at Lucky's drives me nuts. Please ask the cage for all matching $25's, or at least sort them in your stack.

Lol, they all spend the same

PerthmikeRegular40 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 10:25 PM#691

Lol, they all spend the same

You do know this is a chip forum right? It kinda hurts me to look a them. At least separate them and bet off the ceramics lol

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 11:11 PM#692

Lol, they all spend the same

That kinda shit flies at 2+2, but not here, sir.

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Sep 7, 2020, 11:30 PM#693

I'm constantly amazed at the cleanliness of the chips. COVID is certainly helping with harvesting and hooker juice.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 12:01 AM#694

.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 12:02 AM#695

That kinda shit flies at 2+2, but not here, sir.

You can say that again!....oh wait

mattross1313Micro-Stakes Grinder17 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 5:30 AM#696

The two different $25's at Lucky's drives me nuts. Please ask the cage for all matching $25's, or at least sort them in your stack.

The $5's too. It upsets my OCD :bag:

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 1:56 PM#697

The two different $25's at Lucky's drives me nuts. Please ask the cage for all matching $25's, or at least sort them in your stack.

If that tilts you, you may wish to avoid The Flamingo in Las Vegas:

SpaceMonkey420Newbie3 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 2:26 PM#698

The stakes at the meetups are low enough that it is more about socializing and having fun. Although the pressure to perform is high because everyone is like "oh, you're a pro? I ain't impressed!" Lol

Standard. I find I go out of my way to show cards, talk about hands, and explain to the regs this is not a “real game” - it helps.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 3:21 PM#699

Standard. I find I go out of my way to show cards, talk about hands, and explain to the regs this is not a “real game” - it helps.

I make sure to mention "my shoes cost more than your house!" so the scrub donkeys know who they're fucking with

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 3:47 PM#700

Combine living quarters WITH footwear for ultimate psycheouts, as such:

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 3:49 PM#701

I make sure to mention "my shoes cost more than your house!" so the scrub donkeys know who they're fucking with

When did kids shoes become so expensive... I mean, they use so much less material... Is it the tiny foot molds? Are they rare?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 4:08 PM#702

When did kids shoes become so expensive... I mean, they use so much less material... Is it the tiny foot molds? Are they rare?

I shop for my shoes at Baby Gap

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 4:17 PM#703

I shop for my shoes at Baby Gap

Do you have this child's wingtip in a size 4 narrow? It's for my kid... I'll wait... *tapping tiny foot *

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 4:36 PM#704

Holy shit the hand at the 2 hr 7 minute mark is just so gross

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 4:51 PM#706

Holy shit the hand at the 2 hr 7 minute mark is just so gross

But he had Aces! ACES! They're the nutzzzz!

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 4:56 PM#707

Holy shit the hand at the 2 hr 7 minute mark is just so gross

Standard Cuban play.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 4:57 PM#708

Standard Cuban play.

I mean, the end result sure was lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 4:58 PM#709

But he had Aces! ACES! They're the nutzzzz!

Probably thought he had a runner-runner nut flush draw (yes, I have met players who think it's possible)

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 5:41 PM#710

Probably thought he had a runner-runner nut flush draw (yes, I have met players who think it's possible)

When I saw the hands PF, that's what I was expecting to happen... the non-spade turn disappointed me.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 6:32 PM#711

When I saw the hands PF, that's what I was expecting to happen... the non-spade turn disappointed me.

The only guy who can bust fireman scott who is 2nd in chips has gotta hit the 1-outer, that's just good tv

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 7:00 PM#712

Holy shit the hand at the 2 hr 7 minute mark is just so gross

I mean he raised preflop to $35 so he was obv pot committed to play a $4k pot.

I'm shocked at the number of times people are playing two gappers at the top of the hands in these videos.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 7:00 PM#713

So maybe it's my tilt talking, maybe I'm just paranoid. But I'm going to start keeping track of who is dealing when these Cubans hit their miracles, which include but are not limited to:

Gets it in three-ways preflop with :jd::9d::4c::3c: for $1500, goes once and wins

Gets it in with :ah::jh::8h::4h: against :as::ks::qd::td: on a flop of :qs::jc::ts: and magically turns the :kc: and fades the river flush and full house outs to chop

Gets it in preflop with :8h::6h::6c::5s: for $1500 three-ways, flops set of 6's, turns flush and rivers straight to beat KKxx and AAxx

Raises OOP in a $10 straddled pot to $75 with :qh::9s::3d::2d: and after two callers I limp-repot and he just calls leaving himself $130 behind, flops QJ3 against my KK54 and spikes the Q on the turn to win that one.

Called off half his stack preflop (a raise to $450 out of his $900) with :qc::9c::8s::3s: against my :ac::ad::tc::6d: and flops Q9x and turns the 9 after we get it in on the flop.

Calls off $1,200 as the FOURTH all-in player preflop with :qh::9c::7c::6s: and goes twice (this was pre-Covid) and wins BOTH BOARDS up against AAxx, KKxx and AKQT suited.

I mean, it's just fucking uncanny some of the monster pots and absolute setups where their opponents are NEVER folding these guys put their chips into with absolutely nothing. And it's starting to make me wonder if there's more going on than meets the eye here. These two drive to Tampa from fucking Miami to play this game, which only adds further to the suspicion (it's a 4 hour drive)

So yeah, going to start keeping track of the big pots they win with garbage and who was dealing and the action, see if I can't find something nefarious going on.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 7:11 PM#714

I mean he raised preflop to $35 so he was obv pot committed to play a $4k pot.

This thought hit me too... When aces shoved in front of him, he snap-shoved for less. It was almost like he made up his mind he was shoving when it got back to him and he didn't consider the possibility that someone could outdraw him. I guess you need that kinda ambivalence toward variance to play Omaha for higher stakes.

CapybaraFanMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 7:14 PM#715

So maybe it's my tilt talking, maybe I'm just paranoid. But I'm going to start keeping track of who is dealing when these Cubans hit their miracles, which include but are not limited to:

Gets it in three-ways preflop with :jd::9d::4c::3c: for $1500, goes once and wins

Gets it in with :ah::jh::8h::4h: against :as::ks::qd::td: on a flop of :qs::jc::ts: and magically turns the :kc: and fades the river flush and full house outs to chop

Gets it in preflop with :8h::6h::6c::5s: for $1500 three-ways, flops set of 6's, turns flush and rivers straight to beat KKxx and AAxx

Raises OOP in a $10 straddled pot to $75 with :qh::9s::3d::2d: and after two callers I limp-repot and he just calls leaving himself $130 behind, flops QJ3 against my KK54 and spikes the Q on the turn to win that one.

Called off half his stack preflop (a raise to $450 out of his $900) with :qc::9c::8s::3s: against my :ac::ad::tc::6d: and flops Q9x and turns the 9 after we get it in on the flop.

Calls off $1,200 as the FOURTH all-in player preflop with :qh::9c::7c::6s: and goes twice (this was pre-Covid) and wins BOTH BOARDS up against AAxx, KKxx and AKQT suited.

I mean, it's just fucking uncanny some of the monster pots and absolute setups where their opponents are NEVER folding these guys put their chips into with absolutely nothing. And it's starting to make me wonder if there's more going on than meets the eye here. These two drive to Tampa from fucking Miami to play this game, which only adds further to the suspicion (it's a 4 hour drive)

So yeah, going to start keeping track of the big pots they win with garbage and who was dealing and the action, see if I can't find something nefarious going on.

If this were a self-dealt game or a home game with friendly dealers I might be more suspicious, but sounds like observation bias imo. I don't see any hand histories in that message from the times they've put in their stack and not won.

And just throwing it out there that there could be...other reasons...to drive from Miami to throw a lot of money around in a casino.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 7:24 PM#716

If this were a self-dealt game or a home game with friendly dealers I might be more suspicious, but sounds like observation bias imo. I don't see any hand histories in that message from the times they've put in their stack and not won.

And just throwing it out there that there could be...other reasons...to drive from Miami to throw a lot of money around in a casino.

Like I said, could be tilt and/or paranoia talking, but they play shit and come out smelling like roses in a lot of big pots, especially over the last month.

Raising OOP to 75 with Q932 with a suited 3, then calling my limp repot which he assumes is AAxx and he's calling off 80% of his stack preflop. I know people are bad, but it just smells off to me

And yes, I'm sure there are other reasons they are coming to Tampa (drugs, laundering money by playing cards, etc)

Guess we'll see if I notice it only happening with a specific dealer or not

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 7:36 PM#717

I wouldn't let it bother you too much. As long as you continue to get your money in good, the variance wave will come crashing down on them and you'll be taking money from them by the thousands. Let them drool, and when they suck out, smile, say "nice hand", and get them next time :)

It's annoying, but you want these types of players in that game.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 7:37 PM#718

I wouldn't let it bother you too much. As long as you continue to get your money in good, the variance wave will come crashing down on them and you'll be taking money from them by the thousands. Let them drool, and when they suck out, smile, say "nice hand", and get them next time :)

A voice of REASON?!?! Begone with such nonsense sir, there are monsters under the bed and I intend to slay them!

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 8:34 PM#719

A voice of REASON?!?! Begone with such nonsense sir, there are monsters under the bed and I intend to slay them!

I confess. I bribed four dealers and every other player at your table to get you nice and paranoid, just to get you some content. You’re welcome :sneaky:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 8:40 PM#720

I confess. I bribed four dealers and every other player at your table to get you nice and paranoid, just to get you some content. You’re welcome :sneaky:

It's the ONLY explanation that makes sense!

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 9:11 PM#721

EU! EU! EU!

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 9:50 PM#722

And yes, I'm sure there are other reasons they are coming to Tampa (drugs, laundering money by playing cards, etc)

At some point in the future, @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) is actually gonna befriend these Cuban fellows... And eventually, they are going to invite @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) down to Little Havana for some Cuban hospitality... They are going to walk into Versailles and the Cubans, wanting to make @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) feel at home, are gonna say to everyone in the restaurant, "Say hello to my little friend."

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 10:02 PM#723

At some point in the future, @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) is actually gonna befriend these Cuban fellows... And eventually, they are going to invite @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) down to Little Havana for some Cuban hospitality... They are going to walk into Versailles and the Cubans, wanting to make @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) feel at home, are gonna say to everyone in the restaurant, "Say hello to my little friend."

Ok out of all the short jokes Anthony has had to endure this one is the all time greatest. Well done sir!

Side note: 2nd best is the photo of Ben leaning overtop Anthony.

HeresyReznorNewbie1 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 11:22 PM#724

Good job on making it as a poker player! From personal experience I find the PLO games have the biggest degens/rich old guys who couldn't give a shit about money. It's also not solved to the same degree as holdem and more difficult to play, so the edges are higher. Livin the dream!

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 11:32 PM#725

Ben/Anthony photo is still #1

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 8, 2020, 11:35 PM#726

Good job on making it as a poker player! From personal experience I find the PLO games have the biggest degens/rich old guys who couldn't give a shit about money. It's also not solved to the same degree as holdem and more difficult to play, so the edges are higher. Livin the dream!

I definitely find it's far easier to get unstuck on most PLO games than in a Hold Em game. Attracts the gamblers for sure

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Sep 9, 2020, 1:29 AM#727

I definitely find it's far easier to get unstuck on most PLO games than in a Hold Em game. Attracts the gamblers for sure

This +1. Unless you're playing deep stacked (250bb+) with a loose lineup, NLH is almost a fools' errand to try and go pro with.

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Sep 9, 2020, 2:34 AM#728

So maybe it's my tilt talking, maybe I'm just paranoid. But I'm going to start keeping track of who is dealing when these Cubans hit their miracles, which include but are not limited to:

Gets it in three-ways preflop with :jd::9d::4c::3c: for $1500, goes once and wins

Gets it in with :ah::jh::8h::4h: against :as::ks::qd::td: on a flop of :qs::jc::ts: and magically turns the :kc: and fades the river flush and full house outs to chop

Gets it in preflop with :8h::6h::6c::5s: for $1500 three-ways, flops set of 6's, turns flush and rivers straight to beat KKxx and AAxx

Raises OOP in a $10 straddled pot to $75 with :qh::9s::3d::2d: and after two callers I limp-repot and he just calls leaving himself $130 behind, flops QJ3 against my KK54 and spikes the Q on the turn to win that one.

Called off half his stack preflop (a raise to $450 out of his $900) with :qc::9c::8s::3s: against my :ac::ad::tc::6d: and flops Q9x and turns the 9 after we get it in on the flop.

Calls off $1,200 as the FOURTH all-in player preflop with :qh::9c::7c::6s: and goes twice (this was pre-Covid) and wins BOTH BOARDS up against AAxx, KKxx and AKQT suited.

I mean, it's just fucking uncanny some of the monster pots and absolute setups where their opponents are NEVER folding these guys put their chips into with absolutely nothing. And it's starting to make me wonder if there's more going on than meets the eye here. These two drive to Tampa from fucking Miami to play this game, which only adds further to the suspicion (it's a 4 hour drive)

So yeah, going to start keeping track of the big pots they win with garbage and who was dealing and the action, see if I can't find something nefarious going on.

This is just unfortunate variance.

Tables have auto shufflers right? And the dealer must have cut cards.

There's no way a dealer can set up these random scenarios with perfect flops, turns, rivers, double boards... I could imagine dealing a player a strong hand (bottom dealing if there wasn't a cut card)... but these hands are way too random.

These guys are just straight gambling... as evidenced by their willingness to committing their stacks preflop.

If over the course of 50k-75k hands or so these players continue to win while continuously behind I'd think something is fishy. There's just no way their play is sustainable over the long term. Short term yes - and with the slow play of live (~20 hands per hour or so) it could be months of luck boxing their way to big pots.

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 9, 2020, 3:22 AM#729

At some point in the future, @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) is actually gonna befriend these Cuban fellows... And eventually, they are going to invite @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) down to Little Havana for some Cuban hospitality... They are going to walk into Versailles and the Cubans, wanting to make @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) feel at home, are gonna say to everyone in the restaurant, "Say hello to my little friend."

I found video of him and his last Degen game.

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Sep 9, 2020, 3:25 AM#730

I found video of him and his last Degen game.

I always kind of pictured Anthony as Barney Stinson from this clip:

Years later and I still snort like an elephant watching this scene.

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 9, 2020, 3:29 AM#731

I always kind of pictured Anthony as Barney Stinson from this clip:

Years later and I still snort like an elephant watching this scene.

Is he standing on a phone book or six? Because you lost me on one big thing....

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Sep 9, 2020, 3:31 AM#732

Is he standing on a phone book or six? Because you lost me on one big thing....

I should mention that if you're watching that particular video, you can skip to the last twenty seconds, but the previous two minutes are totally hilarious too!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 9, 2020, 9:41 AM#733

This is just unfortunate variance.

Tables have auto shufflers right? And the dealer must have cut cards.

No auto shufflers at TGT, only hard rock

I found video of him and his last Degen game.

My Dad was a Danny Devito look-alike in the 80's. As Barney would say....true story

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 9, 2020, 3:19 PM#734

Cubans also play NLHE online, apparently.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 1:41 AM#735

In for 500 in a private 1/2/5 game

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 1:49 AM#738

Nice start!! How much on the table?

Love this thread!

Nothing too exciting, most bought 300-500

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 2:06 AM#739

Ty Poker Jeezus!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 2:21 AM#740

Wheee!

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 2:21 AM#741

MORE BLACK STARS. FOUR MORE AND YOU'LL HAVE NINE BLACK ONES WITH STARS....

k9drShark175 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 2:29 AM#742

You may not get invited back :cautious:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 2:35 AM#743

Who wants me to harvest chips?

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 2:35 AM#744

Who wants me to harvest chips?

I need 10 blacks to mill, then throw away.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 2:37 AM#745

Who wants me to harvest chips?

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 2:55 AM#746

Is that star a hotstamp or just a sticker?

Talk about high end security.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:07 AM#747

Is that star a hotstamp or just a sticker?

Talk about high end security.

A sticker lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:25 AM#748

Got it in 3 ways with pair and flush draw

Went twice, made two pair and nut straight to scoop

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:31 AM#749

Got it in 3 ways with pair and flush draw

Went twice, made two pair and nut straight to scoop

View attachment 530961 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/530961/)

LOL - at this rate you're definitely not being invited back!

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:32 AM#750

Ben/Anthony photo is still #1

link?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:32 AM#751

LOL - at this rate you're definitely not being invited back!

Actually know a few of the players and me and the host have been talking a ton, lots of similar interests

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:33 AM#752

link?

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:39 AM#753

Got it in 3 ways with pair and flush draw

Went twice, made two pair and nut straight to scoop

View attachment 530961 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/530961/)

OH MY GOD. UR TEH STAR MVP!!!1!!!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:40 AM#754

OH MY GOD. UR TEH STAR MVP!!!1!!!

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:49 AM#756

OH MY GOD. UR TEH STAR MVP!!!1!!!

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:50 AM#757

MYAH'

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:55 AM#758

MYAH'

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 3:58 AM#759

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:20 AM#760

I don't even have to watch it, I already know what it is.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:21 AM#761

In for $500, out for $1,760 and the host said I am welcome back anytime :)

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:21 AM#762

I don't even have to watch it, I already know what it is.

I know..... It's apart of our charm. Oh you!

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:21 AM#763

Aw damn, here we are crapping up Anthony's thread.

Moar star chips yet?

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:22 AM#764

Nice score, brother!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:22 AM#765

Aw damn, here we are crapping up Anthony's thread.

Moar star chips yet?

Get a thread you two!

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:23 AM#766

Aw damn, here we are crapping up Anthony's thread.

Moar star chips yet?

Every thread = Josh Kifer thread.....

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:24 AM#767

I know..... It's apart of our charm. Oh you!

Get a thread you two!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 4:25 AM#768

Every thread = Josh Kifer thread.....

How I imagine you in person

SixSpeedFuryRegular65 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 5:58 AM#770

I got invited to a 1/2/5 plo game - very similar chips and table......

View attachment 530980 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/530980/)

Jesus what a score! 2/5 or 5/10? Also, not much going on there as far as secured chips. Can I get an invite? I'll bring some of my buds Nexgen Pros to add on....

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 12:47 PM#773

.... me and the host have been talking a ton, lots of similar interests

Ask him if he's got your missing wheel and tire.

Jonesey07Regular39 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 12:53 PM#774

Ben/Anthony photo is still #1

I need to see this!

Disregard, I should finish reading the thread before posting!

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 6:44 PM#775

Jesus what a score! 2/5 or 5/10? Also, not much going on there as far as secured chips. Can I get an invite? I'll bring some of my buds Nexgen Pros to add on....

It was a nice hit for that game. Absolutely no security on the chips. Game been running for a very long time. It’s actually plo8, which I love. When people get stuck the straddles come out 1/2/5/10/20.........

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 6:57 PM#776

Jesus what a score! 2/5 or 5/10? Also, not much going on there as far as secured chips. Can I get an invite? I'll bring some of my buds Nexgen Pros to add on....

Speaking of no security for chips..... here is another plo home game:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 7:02 PM#777

Drove an hour and a half to play the 5/5 Big O at Oxford Downs, only to find out it's private

Gave my name and number to the guy who runs it, hopped into 1/2 nl hold em for $300

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 7:03 PM#778

Speaking of no security for chips..... here is another plo home game:

View attachment 531226 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/531226/)

The messed up thinking that I could see occurring is that you bring this up with the table/host. Then they ban you because bringing this issue to light is tantamount to actually committing the act in the first place!

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 7:13 PM#779

I have been playing with these guys for years so probably not a problem. Speaking of security- True story - I went to a private game hosted by a friend. Someone spilled a drink all over the dealer box. The host took all the chips and put them in the bathroom sink to let them soak. so basically anyone who went to the bathroom was on the honor system......

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 8:01 PM#780

Drove an hour and a half to play the 5/5 Big O at Oxford Downs, only to find out it's private

Gave my name and number to the guy who runs it, hopped into 1/2 nl hold em for $300

View attachment 531233 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/531233/)

You?!? Hold em? WTF is going on?!?

Pigs flying

Rivers of blood

Locusts

Is it all happening later too?!?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 8:11 PM#781

You?!? Hold em? WTF is going on?!?

Pigs flying

Rivers of blood

Locusts

Is it all happening later too?!?

I drove an hour and a half to be here for 1pm. IF I get a seat may not be until 8pm and told Jenn I was leaving at 9pm

So when in Rome....

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 9:11 PM#782

Sometimes you go to work and get a shit assignment. Make the best of it and make 'em pay!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 9:12 PM#783

Just went to 2 tables and got a seat in big o

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 9:15 PM#784

Do your card rooms have plexiglass barriers and/or mask requirements? If so, how do you find them?

Reason I'm asking, my local casinos are finally reopening their poker rooms and I'm wondering how the barriers and masks factor into your enjoyment. They've announced 8 handed barriers plus masks required.

I think there may be some benefits - some of the local casino riff raff smell like they've never met a bar of soap. Barriers and masks may actually be a positive thing.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 9:21 PM#785

Do your card rooms have plexiglass barriers and/or mask requirements? If so, how do you find them?

Reason I'm asking, my local casinos are finally reopening their poker rooms and I'm wondering how the barriers and masks factor into your enjoyment. They've announced 8 handed barriers plus masks required.

I think there may be some benefits - some of the local casino riff raff smell like they've never met a bar of soap. Barriers and masks may actually be a positive thing.

All rooms require masks, which I'm used to

Only hard rock tampa has plexiglass 7-handed. It kills the social aspect of the game and makes communication difficult/muffled

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 9:44 PM#786

I found the plexiglass in Vegas to be... a waste?

Everyone wore masks (though not all correctly), and everyone had the tendency to lean over the rail, thus beyond the barrier of the plexiglass.

I put a lot of faith in my mask, very little faith in the barriers. That said, that was one of the few times I went to Vegas, played poker, and didn't come down with some sort of bug, so something is working.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 10:43 PM#787

After losing THREE $300 buyins, getting quartered twice, etc I finally triple up

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 10:50 PM#788

$300 buyin seems kinda short

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 10:55 PM#789

$300 buyin seems kinda short

It is. I don't know most of the players and don't play a ton of Big O

Buying in short protects me from stacking off everything in 1 hand and allows me to play more aggressive on my first visit and appear to gamble more

CoyoteRegular57 posts
Posted Sep 11, 2020, 11:08 PM#790

I think the Forum needs a "My Journey as Quasi-Clueless Recreational Poker Player" thread now. :LOL: :laugh:

There are tons of badly played hands in the Poker Strategy section, to start with, either in home games or in card rooms and entry-level casino games where poor chip enthusiasts like myself attempt at playing poker, naively believing we can play the game just because we like chips.:D

It would be an enormous, full-time job task though, to cherry-pick them and start such a thread.:)

At any rate, badly played hands bear a lot more educational value than correctly played ones, IMO.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 12, 2020, 12:00 AM#791

I think the Forum needs a "My Journey as Quasi-Clueless Recreational Poker Player" thread now. :LOL: :laugh:

You clearly have not been reading my posts. :bag:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 2:26 PM#792

Monday morning PLO, the cubans missing

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 3:05 PM#794

Is it a cuban missing crisis?!

It IS. Game tight as hell without them

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 3:13 PM#795

I think the Forum needs a "My Journey as Quasi-Clueless Recreational Poker Player" thread now. :LOL: :laugh:

There are tons of badly played hands in the Poker Strategy section, to start with, either in home games or in card rooms and entry-level casino games where poor chip enthusiasts like myself attempt at playing poker, naively believing we can play the game just because we like chips.:D

It would be an enormous, full-time job task though, to cherry-pick them and start such a thread.:)

At any rate, badly played hands bear a lot more educational value than correctly played ones, IMO.

Not even joking: I've been thinking about doing something like that for the past week or so :P

Anthony's thread is great, so I figured I'd spoof it by just saying "hey, I suck at poker, want to see me struggle and sweat in the hopes of becoming incrementally better?" :D

JambineMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 3:22 PM#796

Not even joking: I've been thinking about doing something like that for the past week or so :p

Anthony's thread is great, so I figured I'd spoof it by just saying "hey, I suck at poker, want to see me struggle and sweat in the hopes of becoming incrementally better?" :D

Not even joking here either. Playing ABC poker will make you a winner in most small stakes games.

Just don't tell anyone that you read this:

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 3:30 PM#797

Not even joking here either. Playing ABC poker will make you a winner in most small stakes games.

Just don't tell anyone that you read this:

View attachment 532908 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/532908/)

My secret weapon! Why would you share it! It even shows my casino-weight chips :o

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 4:04 PM#798

Not even joking here either. Playing ABC poker will make you a winner in most small stakes games.

And about this part: I know, but I've been terminally diagnosed with Fancy Play Syndrome :P

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 4:47 PM#799

Guy raised pre from blinds, I'm on button and call after others

I flop two pair, he bets $75, I just call, SB calls

Turn is a blank, he bets $150, I pot and cover, he has $250 behind

SB all in for less. BB eventually calls. We go twice

He hits the 5 on one river and pairs the 3 on the other to scoop as a 2:1 dog whomp whomp

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 5:07 PM#800

Won a 3 way all-in on the flop, back to healthy

Had AJ42 nut suit and called raise pre, flop 842 rainbow. Raiser pots, mext guy gets it in, I cover both

We go twice. Up against AAT6 and AKxx

I make a boat on 1st board and 2 pr holds on 2nd board

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 5:23 PM#801

Called preflop raise multiway with KK83 and flopped K42 rainbow and shorty shoves, raiser with AAxx cqlls, I reshove, gambler stacks off, aces fold

Gambler only goes 1 time. We boat

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 5:58 PM#802

Called preflop raise multiway with KK83 and flopped K42 rainbow and shorty shoves, raiser with AAxx cqlls, I reshove, gambler stacks off, aces fold

Gambler only goes 1 time. We boat

View attachment 532966 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/532966/)

Gambler didn't show?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 6:00 PM#803

Gambler didn't show?

Nope

Av8tionMicro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 6:31 PM#804

those dirty 25s tilt me... better exchange them 1:1 for black chips ASAP...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 14, 2020, 7:51 PM#805

in for 1k, was down $600 at one point but turned it around and ended the day +$1,182

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 17, 2020, 11:52 PM#806

Back at the private game tonight. 1/2/5 and in for $500

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 1:17 AM#807

Doubled up, w00p w00p!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 2:16 AM#808

Chipping up slowly but surely

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 2:37 AM#809

Whomp whomp

Had JJ87 and flop 964 rainbow. Pot raised pre, I lead for 150, 2 callers

Turn offsuit 5, get it in with guy who covers we go twice

He has T78x

First board rivers the 4-outer hitting an 8. 2nd board is a 6 so we chop that, I get quartered

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 3:00 AM#811

FYP :(

He can hit two 7's as well

BeakertwangRegular96 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 3:06 AM#812

He can hit two 7's as well

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 4:16 AM#813

Limp repot with :as::ac::8c::6s: to $150, THREE callers

Flop :kh::9h::4s:

Shove my last $235 in

Two guys call, another reshoves for another $1200

Guy who has over 6 grand and can't lose thinks FOREVER, eventually calls

Turn :7c:

River :kc:

Guy who almost folded shows KQQT and scoops. Almost quadrupled up. REBUY!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 6:07 AM#814

was in for $500 to start, ran it up to $1,100

Got quartered by Mario in that hand to put me back to even

Then Mario got me again in the Aces pot where he rivered the 3rd King, otherwise I quadruple up

Managed to turn the session around and lost only $100 on the day. Mario was destroying everyone, dude cashed out for like 8k, couldn't miss, AND he was straight action, constantly straddling and raising pots

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 8:06 PM#815

Time for the 5/5 Big O

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 18, 2020, 11:26 PM#817

Sigh, quartered

Me: :ah::js::9h::8s::3h:

Him: :ad::9d::8c::7d::3c:

Board: :jc::7c::2h::5h:

I bet pot $695 on turn. He just calls leaving $80 behind lol

River :qc:

Only good cards gor him are clubs or the :7s:

If he two pairs without a club I make better two pair. We both have the same gutshot straight draw.

Le ugh

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 12:17 AM#818

That's more like it. Have

:ah::3h::4h::5d::8d:

Board is :5h::5d::js::2h:

I get it in on turn, my opponent only goes 1 time and slowplayed JJxxx on the flop

I river :6h: and he starts muttering to himself as I scoop!

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 12:51 AM#819

Sigh, quartered

Me: :ah::js::9h::8s::3h:

Him: :ad::9d::8c::7d::3c:

Board: :jc::7c::3h::5h:

I bet pot $695 on turn. He just calls leaving $80 behind lol

River :qc:

Only good cards gor him are clubs or the :7s:

If he two pairs without a club I make better two pair. We both have the same gutshot straight draw.

Le ugh

Is this a juicy game? I’m a little surprised all that money is going in with just playing an A8 for the low. At least you have good high draws compared to his hand, but I thought you don’t make money drawing to half the pot.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 12:53 AM#820

Is this a juicy game? I’m a little surprised all that money is going in with just playing an A8 for the low. At least you have good high draws compared to his hand, but I thought you don’t make money drawing to half the pot.

Sorry, just fixed it. 3 hesrts on flop should be 2 hearts

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 12:54 AM#821

Sorry, just fixed it. 3 hesrts on flop should be 2 hearts

Lol that makes a lot more sense!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 3:07 AM#822

Chipping back up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 5:39 AM#823

Have :ah::4c::5d::7c::9h:

Limp and call a preflop raise

Three ways to flop which comes

:3s::6h::th:

Get it in, covering both opponents and agree to run twice

First board comes :9s::js:

Second board is :7d::8d:

Side pot:

I get scooped in side pot by guy with

:ad::2d::6s::tc::qc: as I whiff my low and his two pair beats me On first board

On 2nd board we chop as I make a straight amd he has nut low.

So quartered in side pot

On to the main pot, the shortest stack has KKxxx and makes a runner runner spade flush on 1st board to scoop half the main

The remaining half I get half of with my straight, and nut low guy gets his half of a half

So that spot cost me a few hundo in profit. I managed to leave the game +$600 at least

PerthmikeRegular40 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 5:55 AM#824

Have :ah::4c::5d::7c::9h:

Limp and call a preflop raise

Three ways to flop which comes

:3s::6h::th:

Get it in, covering both opponents and agree to run twice

First board comes :9s::js:

Second board is :7d::8d:

Side pot:

I get scooped in side pot by guy with

:ad::2d::6s::tc::qc: as I whiff my low and his two pair beats me On first board

On 2nd board we chop as I make a straight amd he has nut low.

So quartered in side pot

On to the main pot, the shortest stack has KKxxx and makes a runner runner spade flush on 1st board to scoop half the main

The remaining half I get half of with my straight, and nut low guy gets his half of a half

So that spot cost me a few hundo in profit. I managed to leave the game +$600 at least

Don't you mean he whiffed his lo. Lol

I hate big o

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 12:14 PM#825

That's more like it. Have

:ah::3h::4h::5d::8d:

Board is :5h::5d::js::2h:

I get it in on turn, my opponent only goes 1 time and slowplayed JJxxx on the flop

I river :6h: and he starts muttering to himself as I scoop!

Are you part Cuban?

When do you decide to run it once or twice? Before or after revealing hole cards?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 1:41 PM#826

Are you part Cuban?

When do you decide to run it once or twice? Before or after revealing hole cards?

Before revealing cards, because you don't hsve to reveal until showdown

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 2:03 PM#827

We don't do alot of running it twice, but when I do, I prefer when it's decided before reveal...not after you find out how far ahead/behind you are.

Unless the equities are petty close, I also prefer running it three times to twice, so someone wins some chips.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 2:08 PM#828

That's more like it. Have

:ah::3h::4h::5d::8d:

Board is :5h::5d::js::2h:

I get it in on turn, my opponent only goes 1 time and slowplayed JJxxx on the flop

I river :6h: and he starts muttering to himself as I scoop!

Also, did he at least have a decent low draw? If he put all his money in the pot with only top set when a flush and straight draw were out there, he deserves to lose.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 2:15 PM#829

Also, did he at least have a decent low draw? If he put all his money in the pot with only top set when a flush and straight draw were out there, he deserves to lose.

Flop was 55J. He had ME in a world of hurt, he was already full. He had no low draw of any consequence, think he held AJJ98 or something

This was against "crazy kevin" who annoys almost everyone

At showdown he'll start talking really fast saying "I've got the nuts, I get everything, I get it all!"

But then he flips over just the wheel while there is a flush possible, the board is paired and there are two other players in the hand.

Last night he got into a verbal argument with another player in the game over whether he called or didn't call a bet on the river, and that player wound up leaving the game over it

Then another guy got involved in the dispute while the floor was there, calling Kevin a liar. Kevin flips out and starts getting loud abput being called a liar

Then the other guy says they can step outside and Kevin freaks out, saying he isn't going to be threatened and that guy is gone, he's out of here, demanding the floor kick him out

The floor doesn't kick him out so Kevin storms off while the guy agitating him is saying "bye....bye!" In that "bye felicia" kinda way

Anyway, the moral of this story is that poker is filled with giant man babies

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 2:18 PM#830

Flop was 55J. He had ME in a world of hurt, he was already full.

That actually changes alot.

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 2:55 PM#831

We don't do alot of running it twice, but when I do, I prefer when it's decided before reveal...not after you find out how far ahead/behind you are.

Unless the equities are petty close, I also prefer running it three times to twice, so someone wins some chips.

@woog30 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1912/)

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 3:11 PM#832

We have had this conversation before about running it once or twice - it has nothing to do with the comparison of hands. It is simply a question of tolerance of variance over time - Especially in games where players are holding 4 or 5 cards (the possibility of two big hands colliding is a lot higher). If u have more gamble And want A higher fluctuation in ur bank roll u run it once, if u are more conservative (and want less variance in ur bankroll) u run it twice. It has nothing to do with the Cards players are holding on any particular hand.

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Sep 19, 2020, 8:53 PM#833

Anyone else enjoying Anthony's casino adventures while following the current thread of Mike du Jour?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 20, 2020, 6:09 AM#834

Little early am 1/2 PLO at Tampa Hard Rock, in for $500

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 20, 2020, 10:46 AM#835

Won $250 at the 1/2. It broke, minbuy into 2/5/10 lineup not great

Lol. We're 5 handed and kid raises to 40, I repot button for half my $300 stack, he just calls

I flop top 2 pr and nfd against his bottom pair plus gutshot

We go twice. First board he turns the Jack and dodges river

2nd board he hits J on turn again! But I rivrr case Jack to flush

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 20, 2020, 3:45 PM#836

Won another $286 at the 2/5/10 so +$536 on the day, they made me work for it. The hard rock tampa gsmes even on weekend nights are have been awful the past few weeks

It's a good thing I'm starting to break into the world of private games to help fill the void

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Sep 20, 2020, 4:12 PM#837

Played Omaha last night for the first time with the Zombie Poker Club. I finished up $15 after 4 hours of play.

@Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/), do you think I'm ready to go pro with you? :cool

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 20, 2020, 4:49 PM#838

Played Omaha last night for the first time with the Zombie Poker Club. I finished up $15 after 4 hours of play.

@Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/), do you think I'm ready to go pro with you? :cool

Sounds like you're undefeated to me!

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Sep 20, 2020, 5:23 PM#839

Played Omaha last night for the first time with the Zombie Poker Club. I finished up $15 after 4 hours of play.

@Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/), do you think I'm ready to go pro with you? :cool

Reading this thread makes me want to move somewhere with games readily available and go pro. Maybe we need to get on his coaching list.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 10:24 AM#840

forgot to mention one of my buddies was destroying the $500 max buyin 1/2 PLO game

He was in for $400 and out for $7,800

He just couldn't miss, although I did get him in this hand. Afterwards he was complaining about how he should have every chip on the table, not realizing I was a favorite even though he flopped the nuts

We got it in on the flop and I binked an 8 on the turn, no waiting

Playing at Luckys today, then the private 5/5/25 game tomorrow!

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 11:40 AM#841

forgot to mention one of my buddies was destroying the $500 max buyin 1/2 PLO game

He was in for $400 and out for $7,800

He just couldn't miss, although I did get him in this hand. Afterwards he was complaining about how he should have every chip on the table, not realizing I was a favorite even though he flopped the nuts

We got it in on the flop and I binked an 8 on the turn, no waiting

View attachment 537038 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/537038/)

Playing at Luckys today, then the private 5/5/25 game tomorrow!

I'd hate my life if I had just 67 no redraw on that board. I certainly don't think I'd want to get it in on the flop against a player that knew what they were doing. I think I'd want to see a safe turn first.

But what do I know? I hate PLO.

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 12:11 PM#842

Playing at Luckys today, then the private 5/5/25 game tomorrow!

Is the private game PLO the whole time or do they mix anything else in?

honkydevilMicro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 12:13 PM#843

I'd hate my life if I had just 67 no redraw on that board. I certainly don't think I'd want to get it in on the flop against a player that knew what they were doing. I think I'd want to see a safe turn first.

But what do I know? I hate PLO.

You like Big O but hate PLO?

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 12:16 PM#844

You like Big O but hate PLO?

I like Big O more, but still not my preferred game. Big O has less variance if you know what you are doing and playing against people that are terrible at it. So it's not as swingy.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 12:28 PM#845

Is the private game PLO the whole time or do they mix anything else in?

Just PLO

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 6:37 PM#846

-2k on the day today, cpuldn't scoop a pot to save my life. Chopped a few, that was it

Action was great. I just ran like dogshit

Last hand I'm in Hijack, the CO straddled to 10

UTG makes it 50 MP calls. I repot to 150 with 250 behind

Straddler. UTG and MP all call

Flop TT5 rainbow, I get it in. MP calls, we go twice, he makes quads on 1st board and holds on 2nd board

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 6:46 PM#847

What are the equities after the flop, when you get it all in? Seems like you're behind when the money goes in... Drawing to a K or a runner-runner straight.

Sounds like hee-haw odds.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 7:28 PM#848

What are the equities after the flop, when you get it all in? Seems like you're behind when the money goes in... Drawing to a K or a runner-runner straight.

Sounds like hee-haw odds.

You have to remember that after I pot to $150 and get THREE callers, there's over $600 in the pot and I have $250 behind. So aside from extremely coordinated flops that completely whiff my hand, I'm getting the rest of my stack in regardless in this spot. Paired flops generally are favorable when you hold AAxx or KKxx. Unfortunately not today.

upNdownShark114 posts
Posted Sep 21, 2020, 8:02 PM#849

Afterwards he was complaining about how he should have every chip on the table, not realizing I was a favorite even though he flopped the nuts

I just have to laugh when somebody flops a straight in omaha, (often a crappy straight, like here) and they say they flopped the nuts.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 22, 2020, 8:52 PM#850

5/5/25 game is crazy. Lots of guys minbuying 1k and trying to get it in pre

I got it in 5 ways pre with

:td::9d::8c::6c:

Ran twice, got scooped. 2nd buyin I get it in with :ac::ah::5s::5c: three ways

Win the first board, flop nfd on 2nd board but guy runner runners hearts

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Sep 22, 2020, 9:26 PM#851

Action!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 22, 2020, 9:41 PM#852

Action!

Guys just did a FIVE-WAY $675 flip

Board came QQ3JJ and a guy with 7765 won with two pair lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 1:15 AM#853

Managed to build it back up, but there are very few cheap flops. Usually is $100-300 preflop. Sometimes you'll get limps for $25 but not often

And buyins are 1k-2500 so stacks start shallow until guys get 10k or more in front of them

BeakertwangRegular96 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 AM#854

5/5/25 game

This means blinds are 5/5, but you have to come in for 25?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 10:43 AM#855

This means blinds are 5/5, but you have to come in for 25?

Button is a mandatory $25 straddle and there are unlimited restraddles

Saw a number of $50 restraddles, and a few $100 ones

As players got stuck 10k they would ramp up their gambling, whether it was actual flips, or just trying to get it in preflop

The rake is paid by one player each dealer, randomly picked by their seat # (i.e. the flop came KT4 on a new dealer, I was seat 4 so I paid)

Another flop was 99x so the guy in seat 9 had to pay the rake TWICE lol

There was some arguing during the game because a short stack would get it in, and then the two bigger stacks still in the hand would try and agree to stop their betting there and run it twice from there, which really hurts a Slotboom shortstacking strat in this game

But as far as actual competent players with good hand selection who aren't outright just gambling, there were only 2-3 of them. The rest of the players were just guys with deep pockets who love action.

It's going to be a swingy game. I'm rarely going to be able to limp in and see cheap flops, and will often be forced into playing bingo preflop

While my hand selection in those spots will be superior, the equities run closer preflop so I wind up having to take thinner edges for lots more $$$ until I am deeper stacked and so are my opponents, and can just see flops

There was one hand where the flop was AJ8 rainbow. Kid on my right bets out 300, guy a few seats to my left makes it 1500

Guy a few seats to his left calls 1500. Kid on my right gets his 3500 in. Kid on my left repots it with a shit ton of yellow 1k chips

Other guy has maybe 5500-6k behind the 1500 he already put in and starts talking about how he is live and both of his opponents would NEVER do this with draws so they both have sets

I put him on QT9x in this spot given his speech. People are talking about how this guy won't put 1500 of his "soldiers" out there and abandon them, but he ends up folding KT9x and his opponents have

AQT9

QT98

The first board comes 8Q to give the weaker hand half the pot and the next board comes 3J and the kids Aces hold so they chop

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:09 AM#856

How did you finish in the game?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:14 AM#857

How did you finish in the game?

In for 2k, out for $2,715

I got bumped from my seat for regs twice because I'm new. My partial backer also wound up playing at the start, but said I will get "his" seat in the future, so I can't be bumped

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 PM#858

....There was some arguing during the game because a short stack would get it in, and then the two bigger stacks still in the hand would try and agree to stop their betting there and run it twice from there....

And that's not considered outright cheating?

I'd be cashing out at that point...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 3:00 PM#859

And that's not considered outright cheating?

I'd be cashing out at that point...

I was in rover mode at the time as a reg had gotten my seat.

Private games have private rules, and there was a pretty big fracas over the situation. Many pots you'd see guys agree to stop betting and run it twice from that point, etc.

My buddy got caught up in a pot where two larger stacks were dealing to stop betting after he and another player were already all-in so my buddy said he was only running it once for the main pot to counter them

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 3:00 PM#860

And that's not considered outright cheating?

I'd be cashing out at that point...

Yeah, I don't know about this game Anthony. Couple of alarm bells going off here following this thread and your updates on this game.

I mean yeah, it sounds like a bunch of droolers, but in a game like PLO, even with premium starting hands, you're flipping more often than not post flop for the pot. Sounds like a bunch of gamblers rather than poker players, if that makes sense.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 3:01 PM#861

Yeah, I don't know about this game Anthony. Couple of alarm bells going off here following this thread and your updates on this game.

I mean yeah, it sounds like a bunch of droolers, but in a game like PLO, even with premium starting hands, you're flipping more often than not post flop for the pot. Sounds like a bunch of gamblers rather than poker players, if that makes sense.

One of the guys put his stack in pre 5-ways with J983 double s00ted!

But yes, this game is going to be pretty flippy

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 3:27 PM#862

.... Many pots you'd see guys agree to stop betting and run it twice from that point, etc.

That's OK, but not when there's someone else in the hand, whose odds of winning may be directly affected by their agreement.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 3:39 PM#863

That's OK, but not when there's someone else in the hand, whose odds of winning may be directly affected by their agreement.

I agree and there were a number of players who voiced the same

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 4:11 PM#864

Managed to build it back up, but there are very few cheap flops. Usually is $100-300 preflop. Sometimes you'll get limps for $25 but not often

And buyins are 1k-2500 so stacks start shallow until guys get 10k or more in front of them

View attachment 538288 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/538288/)

Looking at these chips, this looks like it's CT member silks from back in the day.

I remember he would post about his big private game. Always though it was BS because of his ridiculous behaviour back then.

Although from what you've mentioned, the somewhat ridiculous rules seem on par for that guy. Openly colluding in a hand with another player all in sounds super shady. And the constant bumping new players out of seats for regs is dumb.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 4:33 PM#865

Looking at these chips, this looks like it's CT member silks from back in the day.

I remember he would post about his big private game. Always though it was BS because of his ridiculous behaviour back then.

Although from what you've mentioned, the somewhat ridiculous rules seem on par for that guy. Openly colluding in a hand with another player all in sounds super shady. And the constant bumping new players out of seats for regs is dumb.

Interesting. The game is private and held at The Silks poker room. Does anyone know Silks real name?

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 8:16 PM#866

Mike McSunas...actually, a pretty nice guy. Lived in Tarpon Springs, last I knew.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 8:30 PM#867

Mike McSunas...actually, a pretty nice guy.

I believe the host of this gsme is named Kenny

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 10:40 PM#868

Games sounds petty awesome. Where in Florida is this game?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 10:41 PM#869

Games sounds petty awesome. Where in Florida is this game?

Private game at Silks in Tampa, been running for a long time. Seemed like a bunch thst just lovr to gamble snd are having a good time, didn't see anyone getting mad while stuck 10k+

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 10:45 PM#870

What's the rake on a private game?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 10:47 PM#871

What's the rake on a private game?

I paid $72 when my number came up. So looks like $9/person per dealer, but we do eat and drink for free and no rake on flips either

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 10:56 PM#872

I paid $72 when my number came up. So looks like $9/person per dealer, but we do eat and drink for free and no rake on flips either

So the rake is just luck of the draw (based on the flop) whenever there's a new dealer at the table? If you've already paid, are you exempt, or potentially have to pay rake at every dealer change?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:02 PM#873

So the rake is just luck of the draw (based on the flop) whenever there's a new dealer at the table? If you've already paid, are you exempt, or potentially have to pay rake at every dealer change?

One guy in seat 9 got double whammied with a 99x flop so he had to pay two desaers in a row

But with these guys doing flips with $3,500+ up for grabs nobody is sweating the rake

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:04 PM#874

So the rake is just luck of the draw (based on the flop) whenever there's a new dealer at the table? If you've already paid, are you exempt, or potentially have to pay rake at every dealer change?

It’s called a time pot. It’s just a way to gamble for the time cost. In the casino u can opt out if u want but someone will typically buy ur spot (so u pay the 9 bucks to that person). What Anthony is describing is ur basic time pot. There are other variations - like if ur seat number hits each person at the table must give u xxx amount (say $100). More aggressive is if ur number hits black u get xxx amount from each player but if it hits red u must pay each player that amount. Gamboooolll!!

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:06 PM#875

It’s called a time pot. It’s just a way to gamble for the time cost. In the casino u can opt out if u want but someone will typically buy ur spot (so u pay the 9 bucks to that person). What Anthony is describing is ur basic time pot. There are other variations - like if ur seat number hits each person at the table must give u xxx amount (say $100). More aggressive is if ur number hits black u get xxx amount from each player but if it hits red u must pay each player that amount. Gamboooolll!!

And yes .... if ur number hits more than once of the flop u get/give 2x or 3x.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:11 PM#876

Yeah, these guys have all sorts of props they do with each other

When they were doing some expensive flip me snd another kid picked a player and bet $100 on them to beat the other. I lost. Next time he said for $60 and he won that too

Also bought half action on a $300 and a $500 flip but no dice

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:16 PM#877

Do any of the guys have save partners? That is generally typical when doing a lot of flips over the course of the night (especially big ones). Don’t be afraid to find one if u want to minimize some of the flip swings (assuming others are doing it).

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:16 PM#878

The rake is paid by one player each dealer, randomly picked by their seat # (i.e. the flop came KT4 on a new dealer, I was seat 4 so I paid)

Another flop was 99x so the guy in seat 9 had to pay the rake TWICE lol

What if the flop is 764... Who pays the rake? Seat 7, seat 6 or seat 4?

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:18 PM#879

Always the first card to come out - far right, away from the turn and river.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:20 PM#880

So KT4 was the 4 was the rake because there was no 13th seat and no 10th seat?

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:22 PM#881

Right. First card that is 1-8/9. If a hi card move to the next one in line. If flop all hi cards move to the next flop assuming no turn/river. At least that’s they way we do it.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:28 PM#882

Goldfish has it right

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:36 PM#883

Do any of the guys have save partners? That is generally typical when doing a lot of flips over the course of the night (especially big ones). Don’t be afraid to find one if u want to minimize some of the flip swings (assuming others are doing it).

Yes, some players do savers or outright chops on flips

When most of the table went to eat three of us agreed to do five $100 flips. I won two of them so came out ahead at least

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:45 PM#884

Nice. I have never seen a save agreement to chop 50/50. I do see saves plus some upside though So if ur save buddy wins u get some upside. we do have a couple guys that want to do monster flips at the end of the night so I/2/3 of us will go in to match the bet (but those are typically really big).

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:52 PM#885

Nice. I have never seen a save agreement to chop 50/50. I do see saves plus some upside though So if ur save buddy wins u get some upside. we do have a couple guys that want to do monster flips at the end of the night so I/2/3 of us will go in to match the bet (but those are typically really big).

One of the guys in the game was telling me about how he was down 35K in another game at Luckys and a kid there was drunk and up 50K and talking about how he'd flip for all of it.

The guy only had 25K on him but offered to flip for that and won it. So he was still down 10K even after winning a 25K flip lol. Good grief, I'm happy as a pig in shit if I could make 25K in 3 months of play and this dude is flipping for it on one hand!

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:57 PM#886

One of the guys in the game was telling me about how he was down 35K in another game at Luckys and a kid there was drunk and up 50K and talking about how he'd flip for all of it.

The guy only had 25K on him but offered to flip for that and won it. So he was still down 10K even after winning a 25K flip lol. Good grief, I'm happy as a pig in shit if I could make 25K in 3 months of play and this dude is flipping for it on one hand!

I wonder how many guys in this game played in the famous game on 2+2 ? :eek:

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Sep 23, 2020, 11:58 PM#887

Hahaha. Awesome. I am coming to florida.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 24, 2020, 12:01 AM#888

I wonder how many guys in this game played in the famous game on 2+2 ? :eek:

I was told this game isn't the biggest they play in, but they said it is the most fun

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 3:19 AM#889

Private game ran again today. Got it in preflop as a 2:1 favorite on 1st buyin, guy only went once and binked an 88x flop lol

Then got it in with KK75 double suited on my next buyin and ran into AAxx, lost both boards

Was in for $2,500 at this point.

Got pushed out of a pot preflop that was re-straddled to $100 pre when I folded :as::7s::5h::4d: in the SB (the restraddler is a frequent pedal pumper and bumped it to $300 when given the option) flop came A79 rainbow, 3 turn and A river, could've trippled up, both guys were betting through the river, one had A3xx

Next hand I'm button $25 straddle and there's a restraddle to $50 called by a few players

I pay the extra $25 with :jh::8h::7c::6s: not an amazing hand, but I have position on the field and know how to navigate post-flop

Flop is :8c::6h::3s: and there's a bet, I shove, the guy who got me with Aces vs Kings earlier calls, bettor folds

We go twice, no waiting spike an 8 on the turn of both boards and double up

Next few hands I make flush vs flush and flop set vs turned flush and give a few hundred back

In the end, manage to get out with a loss of $675

Three guys did a $3,500 flip earlier in the night, so I feel like I got out relatively unscathed given the craziness

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 10:52 AM#890

Congrats on the $1825 win!

What's the stop loss on these bigger private games?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:02 AM#891

Congrats on the $1825 win!

What's the stop loss on these bigger private games?

I didn't win $1,825. I cashed out for $1,825. I was in for $2,500

Right now we're trying 4k, at four 1k buyins. Just play tight and get it in with solid hands.

PerthmikeRegular40 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:05 AM#892

I didn't win $1,825. I cashed out for $1,825. I was in for $2,500

Right now we're trying 4k, at four 1k buyins. Just play tight and get it in with solid hands.

Was an $1825 recovery. I'd call that a win

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:09 AM#893

Was an $1825 recovery. I'd call that a win

Losing only $675 in this game is definetly a win.

I hear the gamblers always talking about how they are stuck 10k early lol. I just can't wait til I get my share of it

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:10 AM#894

With the way this game plays, I feel anything less than like 10k is playing pretty short. When you are forced to play mostly preflop in Omaha, you are really losing a significant portion of your edge. Does this concern you a bit?

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:12 AM#895

I didn't win $1,825. I cashed out for $1,825. I was in for $2,500

You were down $2500. You cashed out for $1825. That's an $1825 win, not a $675 loss.

Well, I guess a $912.50 win...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:14 AM#896

With the way this game plays, I feel anything less than like 10k is playing pretty short. When you are forced to play mostly preflop in Omaha, you are really losing a significant portion of your edge. Does this concern you a bit?

In the 5/10/25 at Hard Rock I have a small sample size, but wpuld buyin for the $500 min and spin it up using a Slotboom strat, and it worked really well

As long as I have opportunities to get it in multiway against deeper stacks who can push each other out, giving me a chance to 3-5x my stack and only have to beat 1 hand at showdown, I think I will do fine

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:14 AM#897

You were down $2500. You cashed out for $1825. That's an $1825 win, not a $675 loss.

Well, I guess a $912.50 win...

I was in for $2,500, had been down $1,500 with a new 1k buyin in front of me

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:25 AM#898

I was in for $2,500, had been down $1,500 with a new 1k buyin in front of me

So congrats on the $325 ($162.50) win?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:33 AM#899

So congrats on the $325 ($162.50) win?

Sigh

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 11:39 AM#900

Congrats on avoiding the $2500 ($1250) loss?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 6:41 PM#901

Some 5/5 Big O today

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 6:56 PM#902

So the first time in played Big O seriously was in a dealer's choice game. .25/.50, $100 deep. I had something like A23K7 double suited. We go like 5 ways to the flop for a raise from the BB. Flop is 45Q with two of my nut suit. Raiser pots, I repot, folds back to him, he jams, I call. And he has naked top set no low draw no flush blockers. I scoop.

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 7:36 PM#903

So the first time in played Big O seriously was in a dealer's choice game. .25/.50, $100 deep. I had something like A23K7 double suited. We go like 5 ways to the flop for a raise from the BB. Flop is 45Q with two of my nut suit. Raiser pots, I repot, folds back to him, he jams, I call. And he has naked top set no low draw no flush blockers. I scoop.

For me, I miss everything and it goes the other way typically.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 7:37 PM#904

For me, I miss everything and it goes the other way typically.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 25, 2020, 8:12 PM#905

Wheee!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 27, 2020, 4:37 PM#906

This week got a few change-ups planned. Still doing Lucky's Monday game, the private game Tuesday, off Wednesday.

Thursday I'm celebrating 15 years of marriage so have plans with Jenn.

The Friday Big O game in Oxford has proven to be not as great as I was told. It's actually been pretty tight after trying it out for the past 3 weeks. Instead of driving almost an hour and a half one-way, I think I'll give Hard Rock Tampa a shot again and see if those games have improved on Friday/Saturday.

Also been working on stretches for the sciatic pain and got my ass back to the gym this past week, moving definitely helps a ton with it. Some days I barely have any issues, other days it's a bear. But hopefully getting back into a regular workout regimen will help.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 28, 2020, 3:57 PM#907

In for $500

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 28, 2020, 4:38 PM#908

Keeping it growing

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Sep 28, 2020, 7:37 PM#909

Is that Cuban money?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Sep 28, 2020, 7:40 PM#910

Is that Cuban money?

Some of it. Cubans were getting destroyed most of the game, but then mounted a comeback and have chips again

In for $500 out for $1,150

Seat 1 (Cuban) got me for a little on a 373 two diamond flop in a straddled pot

I had QQJ7 with diamonds in the SB, he had 2456 no diamonds, called my pot bet on the flop chasing his straight on a paired and flushing board.

Rivered a straight, dodging my full house and flush draw outs lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 6:32 PM#911

Since the big O game has been meh, back in Tampa for some 4 card PLO today

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 7:16 PM#912

Chipping up a bit

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 7:40 PM#913

Lets facking go bro!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 9:05 PM#914

WHEEE

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 9:34 PM#915

OMG!

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 9:58 PM#916

I find it so tilting that they have 5 different denominations on the table (big ones are ok). $1s AND $2s AND $5s? I though they stopped doing that a while back?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 10:07 PM#917

I find it so tilting that they have 5 different denominations on the table (big ones are ok). $1s AND $2s AND $5s? I though they stopped doing that a while back?

I would love to do away with the $2 chips too

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 10:43 PM#918

I would love to do away with the $2 chips too

I kinda like the $2 chips in 1/2 games. But if im honest they seem kinda dumb unless its a limit game. I played at BestBet and they only used the $2 chips for drop and it didn't bother me so I could go either way.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 10:46 PM#919

Sold some reds to a bustout

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 10:49 PM#921

$1600?

Yes, in for $500. One guy I just have his number tonight, keep stacking him but he's only buying $200 at a time

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 11:05 PM#922

In for $500. Out for $1,634 plus won $50 playing dueces wild video poker while I waited for my seat

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Oct 2, 2020, 11:10 PM#923

In for $500. Out for $1,634 plus won $50 playing dueces wild video poker while I waited for my seat

Nice job man!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 3, 2020, 11:31 PM#925

Back at it tonight in TMpa

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Oct 3, 2020, 11:42 PM#926

Good luck!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 3, 2020, 11:45 PM#927

Wheee

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 3, 2020, 11:51 PM#928

Busted the biggest fish at the table, she rebought

Got her for heaps with a turned set of Queens when she called with a gutshot and blasted $200 into me on the river with bottom two pair

Then had AJJT suited on an AJ9 flop and she had QQJ6 and kept calling all streets pot sized bets lol

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Oct 3, 2020, 11:58 PM#929

So you’re prettily regularly taking pics on your phone and doing write ups at the table or on breaks?

Question being, what’s your cell time look like compared to the other players? Do you stick out a little bit or is everyone just play/cell/play/cell/play/cell?

How many folks are aware of you running a “follow along” thread of the games?

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 12:04 AM#930

Wow thats a pretty quick double! Hopefully this fish sticks around man! Iv'e been following this thread for a while and your really living the dream man. Pick your own hours and do something you love for a living.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 12:07 AM#931

So you’re prettily regularly taking pics on your phone and doing write ups at the table or on breaks?

Question being, what’s your cell time look like compared to the other players? Do you stick out a little bit or is everyone just play/cell/play/cell/play/cell?

How many folks are aware of you running a “follow along” thread of the games?

We have plexiglass dividers and lots of folks mess around on their phones, so I don't think anyone notices me taking a quick pic

Wow thats a pretty quick double! Hopefully this fish sticks around man! Iv'e been following this thread for a while and your really living the dream man. Pick your own hours and do something you love for a living.

My secret is clean living my friend!

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 12:12 AM#932

We have plexiglass dividers and lots of folks mess around on their phones, so I don't think anyone notices me taking a quick pic

Ah yeah. Has this shut down pretty much all social aspects of playing, or is just normalized now?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 12:12 AM#933

In the SB with :qs::qc::jc::tc:

Call $5 button straddle, everyone calling, kid in LP raises to $30. Whole table calls

Flop

:kd::qh::6d:

I pot $210 first to act, the original raiser gets his last $130 in with

:ac::jd::td::8s:

Turn is :kh: and it's over with no waiting

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 12:13 AM#934

Ah yeah. Has this shut down pretty much all social aspects of playing, or is just normalized now?

Well fortunately Hard Rock is the only one with plexiglass. It hasn't killed socialization completely, but you can really only converse with players right next to you

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 12:27 AM#935

Lol, I have :kh::kc::td::4d: on the button. My steaming buddy Dave has straddled UTG to $5

Everyone calling, I call. He pops it to $35, bunch of callers, I repot to $180 to isolate cause I know he is playing like shit

He calls OOP leaving $130 behind. The fish lady I busted earlier gets it all-in for $105

Flop :2h::4h::8s:

He gets his last $130 in. Turn :6c: river :ah: and he turns over

:9s::8d::5s::2d: and his two pair scoops lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 1:26 AM#936

Have :kc::qc::9s::8s: on button, limp in, BB pots it, everyone calling

Flop comes :kh::9c::2d:

Checks to me, I pot it for $205, drooler checkraises all-in for $300 and I have to call

He limp-called the raise with :jd::6d::2s::2c: and flopped bottom set. It holds, whomp whomp

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 2:05 AM#937

My buddy Reggie made the money in todays guaranteed tourney behind me, so I video-bombed him

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 9:49 AM#938

So early on had tripled my buyin, but saw the game get much swingier after that. They never got me under my starting $500, but did knock me back to $750 at one point.

Had an opportunity to bust FOUR players when I trapped my buddy Dave who was just spewing (he would straddle to $5, pot when it got to him and pot EVERY flop he was checked to, regardless of his hand, board texture or # of opponents)

I had :kh::kc::tc::9d: and was planning to checkraise when allhell broke loose preflop and three short stacks were all-in after Dave did his thing and another guy who is a good player but was on crazy monkey tilt from losing all night called off halfhis chips (and then the rest when it got to me) with :9d::7s::5d::3h:

So I get it in against three stacks that are $200 or so and the monkey tilt kid who has $330

He makes a straight, Dave shows up with :qh::qs::5h::2h: and rivers a flush to quintipleup via the main pot and I get bupkis!

Shortly after that the game tightens significantly, so I called it a night +$506 on the session

At least the games are good again, and I don't have to drive an hour and a half for Big O

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 7:36 PM#939

I have mad respect for you. I don't know how you do this full time. You must either have the patience of Job or short term memory loss to deal with the bad beats.

I'm a rank beginner, and only play online at the moment. But I swear, one of 3 things happens EVERY TIME I have a good hand. Either nobody calls even the slightest raise (so I win a TINY pot), somebody else has a BETTER hand, or somebody hits the ONE OUT that lets them beat me! The other night I had JJxx two suited. Got a little money in before the flop, which comes J34. Cautiously I placed a small raise, but got a large re-raise from the next player, and a call from the player after that. These raises were about 1/3 of my stack, so I re-raised all-in and they both called. This was a .10/.20 PLO game (high only) and the pot is now over $40. River comes with another 3 giving me top full house. But of course, the guy who re-raised me has pocket 3s for the quads. This kind of crap seems to happen to me every time I have a good hand. Maybe I'm just not destined to play poker... :(

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 7:39 PM#940

I have mad respect for you. I don't know how you do this full time. You must either have the patience of Job or short term memory loss to deal with the bad beats.

I'm a rank beginner, and only play online at the moment. But I swear, one of 3 things happens EVERY TIME I have a good hand. Either nobody calls even the slightest raise (so I win a TINY pot), somebody else has a BETTER hand, or somebody hits the ONE OUT that lets them beat me! The other night I had JJxx two suited. Got a little money in before the flop, which comes J34. Cautiously I placed a small raise, but got a large re-raise from the next player, and a call from the player after that. These raises were about 1/3 of my stack, so I re-raised all-in and they both called. This was a .10/.20 PLO game (high only) and the pot is now over $40. River comes with another 3 giving me top full house. But of course, the guy who re-raised me has pocket 3s for the quads. This kind of crap seems to happen to me every time I have a good hand. Maybe I'm just not destined to play poker... :(

You were the heavy favorite until the villain one outed their quads. Keep getting it in good like that and you'll make money in the long run. Keep your head up!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 7:59 PM#941

I have mad respect for you. I don't know how you do this full time. You must either have the patience of Job or short term memory loss to deal with the bad beats.

if people are sucking out on you it means you got your money in good, you can't control the luck.

Don't get me wrong, I remember beats from over a decade ago, and I'm not immune to tilt.

But recognizing when you are tilting and getting out of the game helps

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 8:29 PM#942

if people are sucking out on you it means you got your money in good, you can't control the luck.

Don't get me wrong, I remember beats from over a decade ago, and I'm not immune to tilt.

But recognizing when you are tilting and getting out of the game helps

Oh yeah, I was seriously tilted, and I knew it. This was Thursday night and I left the room immediately. I haven't played a real money hand since. Basically I am STILL tilted over it... I know, I need to get over it and get back on the horse.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:04 PM#943

I have mad respect for you. I don't know how you do this full time. You must either have the patience of Job or short term memory loss to deal with the bad beats.

I'm a rank beginner, and only play online at the moment. But I swear, one of 3 things happens EVERY TIME I have a good hand. Either nobody calls even the slightest raise (so I win a TINY pot), somebody else has a BETTER hand, or somebody hits the ONE OUT that lets them beat me! The other night I had JJxx two suited. Got a little money in before the flop, which comes J34. Cautiously I placed a small raise, but got a large re-raise from the next player, and a call from the player after that. These raises were about 1/3 of my stack, so I re-raised all-in and they both called. This was a .10/.20 PLO game (high only) and the pot is now over $40. River comes with another 3 giving me top full house. But of course, the guy who re-raised me has pocket 3s for the quads. This kind of crap seems to happen to me every time I have a good hand. Maybe I'm just not destined to play poker... :(

I'll also add that with lower the stakes, more players are willing to gambol. Sure, even in Anthony's 5/5 games there are players willing to risk a buy-in on a 6-outer, but money is relative. Bigger stakes pair down the number of players looking to hit the magic card, so your punishment at dime stakes is going to be more frequent (but less severe) than at life-sustaining levels.

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:20 PM#944

I have mad respect for you. I don't know how you do this full time. You must either have the patience of Job or short term memory loss to deal with the bad beats.

I'm a rank beginner, and only play online at the moment. But I swear, one of 3 things happens EVERY TIME I have a good hand. Either nobody calls even the slightest raise (so I win a TINY pot), somebody else has a BETTER hand, or somebody hits the ONE OUT that lets them beat me! The other night I had JJxx two suited. Got a little money in before the flop, which comes J34. Cautiously I placed a small raise, but got a large re-raise from the next player, and a call from the player after that. These raises were about 1/3 of my stack, so I re-raised all-in and they both called. This was a .10/.20 PLO game (high only) and the pot is now over $40. River comes with another 3 giving me top full house. But of course, the guy who re-raised me has pocket 3s for the quads. This kind of crap seems to happen to me every time I have a good hand. Maybe I'm just not destined to play poker... :(

Bad beats happen all the time. It’s a part of the game, especially where players are holding more than 2 cards. Guy with bottom set got real lucky. So be it. It’s poker. Reload and keep swinging. The cards will swing ur way eventually.

My advice to u ( for whatever it’s worth) is do not be cute with ur hands. If u think u have the best hand, bet it (unless u flop so big u need people to catch up). The wraps and flush draws are gonna call against ur set. No cute mini raises. They just get u in trouble. naked sets (with no plan b) look better than they actually are statistically. Bet it, but ur ass is in the air against the wraps and flush draws (a more conservative play in bigger games is to check so see a clean turn, but I didn’t go to that school). Typically with top set I just get it all in as fast as I can and close my eyes.

k9drShark175 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:28 PM#945

Bad beats happen all the time. It’s a part of the game, especially where players are holding more than 2 cards. Guy with bottom set got real lucky. So be it. It’s poker. Reload and keep swinging. The cards will swing ur way eventually.

My advice to u ( for whatever it’s worth) is do not be cute with ur hands. If u think u have the best hand, bet it (unless u flop so big u need people to catch up). The wraps and flush draws are gonna call against ur set. No cute mini raises. They just get u in trouble. naked sets (with no plan b) look better than they actually are statistically. Bet it, but ur ass is in the air against the wraps and flush draws (a more conservative play in bigger games is to check so see a clean turn, but I didn’t go to that school). Typically with top set I just get it all in as fast as I can and close my eyes.

He speaks the truth. My first time in 1-2-5 PLO at Aria I have AAxx twice in 3 hands - flop top set - get it all in vs same villain with a wrap and a flush draw and get stacked both times :banghead: Nothing I would do differently, but I declined to rebuy again.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:34 PM#946

I'll also add that with lower the stakes, more players are willing to gambol. Sure, even in Anthony's 5/5 games there are players willing to risk a buy-in on a 6-outer, but money is relative. Bigger stakes pair down the number of players looking to hit the magic card, so your punishment at dime stakes is going to be more frequent (but less severe) than at life-sustaining levels.

I've seen players chase open-ended straight draws on paired and flushing boards. Some players have no clue, some just don't care. This happens at all stakes. A fish with bottom set in a 2K max buyin game sitting on 7K got it in with bottom set and a gutshot straight draw on a flop that presented a two card flush against the biggest pro in the game who was the only player that had her covered and he had top set and she stacked off to him. She went nuts on me with a pair of 9's on an 8-high flop when I had a wrap draw and couldn't believe her overpair didn't hold up.

Bad beats happen all the time. It’s a part of the game, especially where players are holding more than 2 cards. Guy with bottom set got real lucky. So be it. It’s poker. Reload and keep swinging. The cards will swing ur way eventually.

My advice to u ( for whatever it’s worth) is do not be cute with ur hands. If u think u have the best hand, bet it (unless u flop so big u need people to catch up). The wraps and flush draws are gonna call against ur set. No cute mini raises. They just get u in trouble. naked sets (with no plan b) look better than they actually are statistically. Bet it, but ur ass is in the air against the wraps and flush draws (a more conservative play in bigger games is to check so see a clean turn, but I didn’t go to that school). Typically with top set I just get it all in as fast as I can and close my eyes.

I'm also a big fan of no cute raises. My bets are generally pot, I rarely bet anything less.

He speaks the truth. My first time in 1-2-5 PLO at Aria I have AAxx twice in 3 hands - flop top set - get it all in vs same villain with a wrap and a flush draw and get stacked both times :banghead: Nothing I would do differently, but I declined to rebuy again.

Ooch, that's rough. Depending on stack sizes and flop texture, I may wait for a safe turn card in some instances before I go to town with certain hands, but that is pretty sick three times in the same session vs the same villain.

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:35 PM#947

He speaks the truth. My first time in 1-2-5 PLO at Aria I have AAxx twice in 3 hands - flop top set - get it all in vs same villain with a wrap and a flush draw and get stacked both times :banghead: Nothing I would do differently, but I declined to rebuy again.

I will let the mathematicians in the group chime in, but I believe that a naked set against a full rap with flush draw is statistically behind On the flop. Coin flip at best.

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:35 PM#948

I'll also add that with lower the stakes, more players are willing to gambol. Sure, even in Anthony's 5/5 games there are players willing to risk a buy-in on a 6-outer, but money is relative. Bigger stakes pair down the number of players looking to hit the magic card, so your punishment at dime stakes is going to be more frequent (but less severe) than at life-sustaining levels.

That's what I would think, and yet all night long, up to the point of the bad beat I was getting folds all around with just .60 bets after the flop. In PLO!

k9drShark175 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:38 PM#949

Ooch, that's rough. Depending on stack sizes and flop texture, I may wait for a safe turn card in some instances before I go to town with certain hands, but that is pretty sick three times in the same session vs the same villain.

That was 3 total hands with a $500 buy-in - I had AA the first hand - flop top set and get it all in - $500 rebuy - fold the second hand - deja vu on the third hand :dead:

k9drShark175 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:39 PM#950

I will let the mathematicians in the group chime in, but I believe that a naked set against a full rap with flush draw is statistically behind On the flop. Coin flip at best.

I agree, I just thought I should win at least one of those flips :meh:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:41 PM#951

I will let the mathematicians in the group chime in, but I believe that a naked set against a full rap with flush draw is statistically behind On the flop. Coin flip at best.

It's roughly a coin-flip

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:43 PM#952

Aces are a tough hand in plo. Aaxx is really only a great hand if u can get heads up pre (3way at most). against multiple hands aa is gonna let u down more times than not. If u can’t raise most everyone out pre, play them like any other pair in ur hand - chuck them if u don’t hit. Personally I would much rather be dealt a double suited run down.

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Oct 4, 2020, 11:47 PM#953

I agree, I just thought I should win at least one of those flips :meh:

U will win. Plo swings can be frustrating, but believe me, top set does win it’s fair share!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 4:48 PM#954

For the past two months the Cubans have been making weird plays and getting there everytime, happened again

Cuban in seat 1 straddled to 10 from the BB.

UTG, a solid players calls, I call on button with AK76 ds.

Cuban pots it OOP, flop is AK5 rainbow, he leads into two solid players on that board with a gutshot straight draw, I pot all-in and not only does he spike the J on the turn to pull ahead but he rivers the Q as well

I think from now on if I play Mondays I will come in at noon to be on the 2nd table

I just don't see how over a two month span I can get it in against these guys as a 70-80% favorite consistently and every fucking time they wiggle out

JambineMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 4:59 PM#955

Ah yeah. Has this shut down pretty much all social aspects of playing, or is just normalized now?

Things have changed a lot in recent years regarding cell phones. It was not that long ago when cell phones were not allowed at all at the table.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 5:17 PM#956

Things have changed a lot in recent years regarding cell phones. It was not that long ago when cell phones were not allowed at all at the table.

It's time they revisit those policies. I dont see cell phone usage any differently than walking across the table and whispering into a players ear while they are in a hand.

JambineMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 6:13 PM#957

It's time they revisit those policies. I dont see cell phone usage any differently than walking across the table and whispering into a players ear while they are in a hand.

Yes. Just like player collusion is not possible in on-line poker

.........unless of course, both players have access to a phone

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 7:22 PM#958

SUSPECT HAND #1 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-journey-as-a-professional-poker-player.58520/post-1171855)

Cuban check-calls my flop bet OOP with an open-ended straight draw on a flushing flop he has no piece of. On the turn which brings a 2nd flush draw he doesn't have (or any blockers for) he LEADS INTO ME and then calls off, runs it once, spikes the red Ace on the river.

SUSPECT HAND #2 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-journey-as-a-professional-poker-player.58520/post-1189517)

cuban gets it in preflop with :jd::9d::4c::3c: 3-ways for $1500 and beats :ah::ad::kh::2c: and :qs::ts::td::8c: when they go once, flop JJ3....Q..9 and the 9 gives one a straight, one a flush and boats him

SUSPECT HAND #3 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-journey-as-a-professional-poker-player.58520/post-1206866)

I think 3 guys (the two regular cubans plus another one) were in cahoots so I got out of dodge before they got me today, left up a grand.

One straddles to 10, everyone calls, straddler makes it 50, we're all calling until last guy who makes it $255 and straddler cold calls. Pushes everyone out (third guy didn't get involved in this one)

They show up with T862 one suit and AKQ9 no suits respectively

They go once with everyone at the table but twice with each other and just smelled super fishy when the guy is calling the 10, letting his buddy make it 50 and then repopping to 255 with T862 one suit. Plus the Cubans usually buyin shorter (200-600) but both were max buying on this day to start which is out of the norm

SUSPECT HAND #4 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-journey-as-a-professional-poker-player.58520/post-1214286)

Limp for 10 in a straddled pot in CO. Cuban in seat 1 makes it 75, couple callers, I repot to 680, holding KK54 one suit

He calls off most of his stack with Q932 has maybe 130 behind. Other guy with AJ43 gets it in for less

I can't play much better than this. He flops the Q, turns another one and I river a useless third 5

SUSPECT HAND #5 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-journey-as-a-professional-poker-player.58520/post-1214368)

Cuban in seat 1 does it again. Calls two all-ins preflop for like 1500 with 8665

He's against KKT9 one suit, didn't see the oyher hand but think it was AAxx

He flops set of 6's, turns the flush AND rivers the straight

He had :8h::6h::6c::5s:

All-in pre

Flop :2h::6s::9h:

Turn: :7h:

River: :td:

SUSPECT HANDS #6 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-journey-as-a-professional-poker-player.58520/post-1215391) (combination of some previous hands plus some new material)

So maybe it's my tilt talking, maybe I'm just paranoid. But I'm going to start keeping track of who is dealing when these Cubans hit their miracles, which include but are not limited to:

Gets it in three-ways preflop with :jd::9d::4c::3c: for $1500, goes once and wins

Gets it in with :ah::jh::8h::4h: against :as::ks::qd::td: on a flop of :qs::jc::ts: and magically turns the :kc: and fades the river flush and full house outs to chop

Gets it in preflop with :8h::6h::6c::5s: for $1500 three-ways, flops set of 6's, turns flush and rivers straight to beat KKxx and AAxx

Raises OOP in a $10 straddled pot to $75 with :qh::9s::3d::2d: and after two callers I limp-repot and he just calls leaving himself $130 behind, flops QJ3 against my KK54 and spikes the Q on the turn to win that one.

Called off half his stack preflop (a raise to $450 out of his $900) with :qc::9c::8s::3s: against my :ac::ad::tc::6d: and flops Q9x and turns the 9 after we get it in on the flop.

Calls off $1,200 as the FOURTH all-in player preflop with :qh::9c::7c::6s: and goes twice (this was pre-Covid) and wins BOTH BOARDS up against AAxx, KKxx and AKQT suited.

I mean, it's just fucking uncanny some of the monster pots and absolute setups where their opponents are NEVER folding these guys put their chips into with absolutely nothing. And it's starting to make me wonder if there's more going on than meets the eye here. These two drive to Tampa from fucking Miami to play this game, which only adds further to the suspicion (it's a 4 hour drive)

So yeah, going to start keeping track of the big pots they win with garbage and who was dealing and the action, see if I can't find something nefarious going on.

SUSPECT HAND #7 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-journey-as-a-professional-poker-player.58520/post-1238885)

Seat 1 (Cuban) got me for a little on a 373 two diamond flop in a straddled pot

I had QQJ7 with diamonds in the SB, he had 2456 no diamonds, called my pot bet on the flop chasing his straight on a paired and flushing board.

Rivered a straight, dodging my full house and flush draw outs lol

SUSPECT HAND #8 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-journey-as-a-professional-poker-player.58520/post-1247128)

For the past two months the Cubans have been making weird plays and getting there everytime, happened again

Cuban in seat 1 straddled to 10 from the BB.

UTG, a solid players calls, I call on button with AK76 ds.

Cuban pots it OOP, flop is AK5 rainbow, he leads into two solid players on that board with a gutshot straight draw, I pot all-in and not only does he spike the J on the turn to pull ahead but he rivers the Q as well

I think from now on if I play Mondays I will come in at noon to be on the 2nd table

I just don't see how over a two month span I can get it in against these guys as a 70-80% favorite consistently and every fucking time they wiggle out

I mean, at this point I'm not sure what I'm supposed to think. Have they just been insanely lucky for two straight months to get it in with 20-30% equity, suddenly only be running it one time and just get there in all the monster pots? It doesn't pass the smell test to me.

The hands they're showing up with are absolute garbage the majority of the time, yet they somehow know to raise them and their opponents somehow have hands that they aren't going to ever get away from. It's uncanny.

So at this juncture I'm going to stop playing the morning table with those two on it, something is rotten in Denmark and I'm tired of being the victim of it. IF I play it'll be at noon when the 2nd table starts.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 10:32 PM#959

Do they appear to be overall winning players, or are they consistently cashing out for less than they buy-in for?

CraigT78Shark171 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 10:35 PM#960

I can't imagine they are some how rigging the game with the dealer. But what is probably happening is they are targeting you. Heads up you can beat either one easily, but even the strongest hand 3 way is going to lose a lot more often. Player A and B are in on it together. You're their mark.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 11:25 PM#961

Do they appear to be overall winning players, or are they consistently cashing out for less than they buy-in for?

I never stay as late as they do so don't see their final cashout

I can't imagine they are some how rigging the game with the dealer. But what is probably happening is they are targeting you. Heads up you can beat either one easily, but even the strongest hand 3 way is going to lose a lot more often. Player A and B are in on it together. You're their mark.

Some of the hands I referenced one of them gets it in pre for $1500 multiway NOT including me with absolute trash against premiums and come out smelling like roses

A number of hands I lost I was only against one of them, but they take extremely odd betting lines, raising shit OOP, then calling off 80% of their stack after I limp repot, leading turns that didn't change the board texture or help them, then spiking miracle after miracle river as 80/20 or 70/30 dogs

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Oct 5, 2020, 11:55 PM#962

I can't imagine they are some how rigging the game with the dealer. But what is probably happening is they are targeting you. Heads up you can beat either one easily, but even the strongest hand 3 way is going to lose a lot more often. Player A and B are in on it together. You're their mark.

I tend to agree with this.

They're very obviously colluding and are splitting their winnings among themselves. Even going in as a 2:1 favorite ordinarily, your pot odds are decreasing each time you go multiways instead of heads up. Your 2:1 favor end up 50/25/25 or 40/30/30 at best. If the two are colluding and splitting the profits, you're behind lots if you're in a pot with them three ways if they're essentially acting as a team.

I wouldn't say they're in cahoots with a dealer, and those are some sick run outs, but it's more likely, especially in PLO, for you to get sucked out even if you're a heavy favorite preflop. I'd bet you'd smoke these guys in NLHE or stud, for example.

Going in later and sitting at another table is a good idea. Especially if you've been getting it in good and you're losing your profits to these guys more often than not when you're in hands with them.

partypokerMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:10 AM#963

Seems odd to me as well but that’s the probability side of things kicking in. We play a monthly game for cash and yearly point

Total. I can get it in very time with +ev and be a racehorse favorite but seems to me I get riveted more than I should. End of day that’s how those games wind up for me and just got to factor in all the other games I do well in because luck only goes so far.

Harder in your shoes than mine as your making a living doing this. You got more nuts than I do for that, wish you well as you move along and I enjoy this post.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:32 AM#964

Seat 1 is the guy who:

---- Called off half his stack of $900 preflop with Q983 ds after I limp-potted when I have AAxx and am never folding post-flop, flops 2 pair and turns a house

----- Check-calls my pot bet on a :qc::tc::3s: flop holding :kd::jd::6d::5d: and then on the :5s: turn which changes relatively nothing with the board texture for anyone calling the flop LEADS into me with a bet that commits him to the pot, when my range is always going to be nutted on that flop and have him killed, gets it in, only goes once and spikes the miracle red Ace river

---- Limp-repotted T862 one-suit to $255 to isolate with his 3rd cuban buddy

----- raised to 75 after straddling and getting multiple callers OOP with Q932 with the ONLY suited cards in his hand being the 32 of diamonds, then CALLED my limp-repot with that hand, putting in 80% of his stack preflop against my KK54, flops a Queen, gets it in and spikes the third Q on the turn

----- called TWO all-ins for $1500 preflop with :8h::6h::6c::5s:, goes once and beats KKxx and AAxx who are both never folding pre

----- on a flop of :7d::7c::3d: he holds :2s::4c::5c::6h: and calls my pot-sized bet when I hold :qs::qd::jd::7s: and of course he rivers the straight while I'm a ridiculous favorite again

---- today he pots OOP into two solid players holding JJT2, then on an AK5 rainbow flop he bets pot, calls my all-in repot when I have AK76 and him crushed, and proceeds to spike his J on the turn AND Q on the river

I mean, look, I get it, sometimes bad play is rewarded. But when it's coupled with:

  1. A streak 2 months long non-stop of getting it in as an 80/20 or 70/30 dog and NEVER missing

  2. Their opponents having hands they are NEVER folding in all the big pots for stacks

  3. Their strange betting lines (leading on the turn committing themselves to the hand when the turn changed nothing from the flop texture, calling 50-80% of their stack preflop with absolute trash hands when their opponents can never fold post-flop given SPR and getting there everytime)

It just adds up too much for me to be coincidence at this point. It's not just me their getting, they're getting a lot of other players. We already know they signal one another to setup raises, since they always rush to grab the 1 and 6 seats so they can trap players between them. So there's no doubt in my mind they'd be fine having the deck setup for them somehow.

How that's happening I don't know, there are no auto-shufflers in this room. It's the smallest and least-trafficked room in the area, so there would certainly be incentive for employees to get an extra cut in this manner.

And these two NEVER play any of the other rooms, only this one particular room, despite there being PLENTY of PLO action daily at the Hard Rock.

Maybe I'm paranoid and completely wrong on this, but I've learned to trust my spidey senses when I play, making hero folds or calls and trusting my instincts. And my instincts here are telling me something is very wrong.

So I'm going to stick with my plan to play on table 2 in the future and avoid these two.

partypokerMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:47 AM#965

Yeah I’m with you, back in Wyatt Earp day someone may have gotten lead poising with all those coincidental suck outs haha. I hate and I mean hate to see horrible play rewarded unless it’s at a friendly home game. Is there the same dealer when they get the best of it like this? Folks can stack decks while everyone watches without a machine, but they have to have dealer in on it.

Glad your moving on to table two. Best to just let that crap be.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:51 AM#966

Yeah I’m with you, back in Wyatt Earp day someone may have gotten lead poising with all those coincidental suck outs haha. I hate and I mean hate to see horrible play rewarded unless it’s at a friendly home game. Is there the same dealer when they get the best of it like this? Folks can stack decks while everyone watches without a machine, but they have to have dealer in on it.

Glad your moving on to table two. Best to just let that crap be.

I only just started paying attention yo the dealers involved so dunno yet

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:59 AM#967

UTG makes it 50 MP calls. I repot to 150

Um... Wouldn't your repot here be something like $210-220, leaving you <$200 behind?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 1:04 AM#968

Um... Wouldn't your repot here be something like $210-220, leaving you <$200 behind?

Why u gotta bring up the past man!?!?!

Yes, looks that way. On a -2K day some of the fine details can get fuzzed

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 3:08 AM#969

Why u gotta bring up the past man!?!?!

Yes, looks that way. On a -2K day some of the fine details can get fuzzed

I can't beat you at poker, so I've gotta find some other way to make myself look good.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 3:10 AM#970

I can't beat you at poker, so I've gotta find some other way to make myself look good.

Just get it in with 20% equity, it works for the Cubans, who am I to argue with success?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 9:57 AM#972

What I found so far regarding poker cheating with dealer help in my area so far, so I guess my concerns aren't out of the realm of reality

http://richardmarcus-pokercheats.blogspot.com/2017/12/false-shuffling-florida-poker-dealer.html?m=1 (https://richardmarcus-pokercheats.blogspot.com/2017/12/false-shuffling-florida-poker-dealer.html?m=1)

Also found this about two cubans cheating at another property, always sitting diagonal from each other

https://www.vip-grinders.com/new-cheating-scandal-commerce-casino/

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 10:34 AM#973

Sounds like you're already on to it, but my thought was to ask if you've seen cell phone usage or signals between the Cubans? If so, let the floor know. If not, keep an eye out for it.

Even just telegraphing folded holdings changing equities for what I need to hit.

Interested in whether you find dealer collusion.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 10:47 AM#974

Sounds like you're already on to it, but my thought was to ask if you've seen cell phone usage or signals between the Cubans? If so, let the floor know. If not, keep an eye out for it.

Even just telegraphing folded holdings changing equities for what I need to hit.

Interested in whether you find dealer collusion.

Yes myself and others have witnessed signals and reported them in the past, but nothing has been done.

There's a reason these two NEVER play at the hard rock. I'm reaching out to this guy on Twitter as well who mentions Boston

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:04 PM#975

The plot thickens

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:05 PM#976

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:09 PM#977

partypokerMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 12:24 PM#978

all i can say is WOW. Stay away from them and that table. Good luck on future sessions without those jokers.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 1:01 PM#979

my buddy JUST texted me this, I mean, I don't even understand what fucking voodoo magic they're using here, but c'mon, all the smokes!

Rhodeman77Shark314 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 1:38 PM#980

The Cubans before heading to the casino:

PerthmikeRegular40 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 1:42 PM#981

Damn these Cubans sound sketchy as hell

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 2:58 PM#982

Surely you and the other regs can present a united front and get these guys banned?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 3:05 PM#983

Surely you and the other regs can present a united front and get these guys banned?

Getting poker players together is like herding cats. The problem is proving it.

I brought my concerns to the room manager and he replied

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 3:08 PM#984

That's a damn good poker manager. He's being pragmatic and yet he's willing to try and ensnare them. I can't wait for what comes up on Monday now!

JambineMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 3:09 PM#985

So at this juncture I'm going to stop playing the morning table with those two on it, something is rotten in Denmark and I'm tired of being the victim of it.

Collusion online is insanely easy to do. For that reason alone I would simply not play online

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 3:10 PM#986

Collusion online is insanely easy to do. I would simply not play online

This is live

Rhodeman77Shark314 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 3:12 PM#987

Is it the same dealer each time when the train wreck hands happen? Does the casino have automatic shufflers or hand shuffle?

JambineMicro-Stakes Grinder23 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 3:12 PM#988

This is live

Then you're right, something wrong in this game. Leave it alone, find another game

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 4:01 PM#989

marking the cards is not an easy thing to do (with dust or whatever) and I think is easy to get caught, especially because the casino can obtain the glasses (Or whatever) necessary to see the markings. However, if that is what they are doing they don’t necessarily need to know what card is coming on the flop turn or river To have a big advantage. all they need to know is that the other players are not holding any 10, which they can see as the cards are dealt (If the cards are marked). If I am holding a pair in my hand and know that both my outs are still in the 16 cards remaining in the deck after the 9 players are dealt, that is a big advantage. Just a thought.

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 4:08 PM#990

The big hand that showed me that Postle was a dirt bag cheating scum is when he overreacted early to someone else doing something (someone called his raise with a bad hand to force showdown when Postle was bluffing). Maybe, for informations sake, you just fold one of those 80/20 hands and see if they react to it. If they do, you have your answer.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 4:12 PM#991

Is it the same dealer each time when the train wreck hands happen? Does the casino have automatic shufflers or hand shuffle?

Hand shuffle. I've only recently started watching more closely at the dealers, so don't have a ton of info on this yet

timinaterMicro-Stakes Grinder13 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 4:27 PM#992

Sounds like textbook whipsawing and collusion. The poker manager has watched hours of footage and hasn't seen that????? If you can remember dates/times of some of these ridiculous hands and runouts might be a good idea to note those so they can review the footage more carefully.

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 4:28 PM#993

Hand shuffle. I've only recently started watching more closely at the dealers, so don't have a ton of info on this yet

If it is hand shuffled, then how would they do this without a man on the inside? That question alone is enough for me to never set foot in that room again.

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 4:43 PM#994

It sounds like a combination of collusion/whipsawing and rungood. Without some solid evidence, I tend to doubt that there is card marking or dealer-assisted cheating going on.

Based on my limited understanding of PLO equities, it seems like there would be a substantial long-term edge for two colluding players to build big pots (especially preflop) playing extremely wide ranges against an isolated third player. They'll lose a lot, but they'll also pick up a lot of pots before or at showdown, they'll have a lot of memorable suckouts, and they'll probably realize a lot more of their combined preflop equity.

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 4:55 PM#995

It sounds like a combination of collusion/whipsawing and rungood. Without some solid evidence, I tend to doubt that there is card marking or dealer-assisted cheating going on.

Based on my limited understanding of PLO equities, it seems like there would be a substantial long-term edge for two colluding players to build big pots (especially preflop) playing extremely wide ranges against an isolated third player. They'll lose a lot, but they'll also pick up a lot of pots before or at showdown, they'll have a lot of memorable suckouts, and they'll probably realize a lot more of their combined preflop equity.

This thread has taken an interesting turn. But I agree that this analysis is by far the most likely explanation. Occam's Razor and all.

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Oct 6, 2020, 5:03 PM#996

It sounds like a combination of collusion/whipsawing and rungood. Without some solid evidence, I tend to doubt that there is card marking or dealer-assisted cheating going on.

Based on my limited understanding of PLO equities, it seems like there would be a substantial long-term edge for two colluding players to build big pots (especially preflop) playing extremely wide ranges against an isolated third player. They'll lose a lot, but they'll also pick up a lot of pots before or at showdown, they'll have a lot of memorable suckouts, and they'll probably realize a lot more of their combined preflop equity.

Exactly what I was trying to get at in my post last night. In a situation where one player (Anthony) is going up to the flop multiways against two other players that are colluding, the single player is always going to be behind preflop no matter the holdings.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 12:17 PM#997

I really don't think this has to do with marked cards. As the manager points out, the burn card is there for a reason. Knowing all your opponents holdings/foldings won't help either. I mean, who gets into a 80/20 scenario as the underdog? Plus its unreasonable to think they they are reading every card at the table. Player at seat 1 isn't in a position to read seat 8/9s (don't know how many players they sit) cards, and player in seat 6 can't signal player 1 every single card without looking like this...

I mean, at some point Anthony would just get up and run. When asked why, he would reply "Cuban #2 told me to steal".

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 12:20 PM#998

I really don't think this has to do with marked cards. As the manager points out, the burn card is there for a reason. Knowing all your opponents holdings/foldings won't help either. I mean, who gets into a 80/20 scenario as the underdog? Plus its unreasonable to think they they are reading every card at the table. Player at seat 1 isn't in a position to read seat 8/9s (don't know how many players they sit) cards, and player in seat 6 can't signal player 1 every single card without looking like this...

View attachment 547954 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/547954/)

I mean, at some point Anthony would just get up and run. When asked why, he would reply "Cuban #2 told me to steal".

We know for sure they signal each other. I have no clue if or what other shennanigans are taking place, but two months straight as a 70-80% favorite against these specific players who suddenly only run it once AND win everytime has my spidey senses tingling.

Something is going on. I can't prove it, I don't know what it is or how they are doing it, but something is off and I'm not playing their table

detroitdadHigh Roller601 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 12:23 PM#999

We know for sure they signal each other. I have no clue if or what other shennanigans are taking place, but two months straight as a 70-80% favorite against these specific players who suddenly only run it once AND win everytime has my spidey senses tingling.

Something is going on. I can't prove it, I don't know what it is or how they are doing it, but something is off and I'm not playing their table

Maybe you need to play better?

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 12:36 PM#1000

The next time I hear "Spidey senses tingling"...

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 12:39 PM#1001

Would there be any interest in Jen coming to "rail" you, and keeping an eye on the Cubans for signals or other in-room shenanigans?

monkeydogMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 12:40 PM#1002

I mean, at some point Anthony would just get up and run. When asked why, he would reply "Cuban #2 told me to steal".

I know he's going to the gym more, and far be it from me to be one to throw stones, but I really don't think that running is something Anthony does much of...mall walking? For sure...running, not so much.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 1:15 PM#1003

I know he's going to the gym more, and far be it from me to be one to throw stones, but I really don't think that running is something Anthony does much of...mall walking? For sure...running, not so much.

I'm the bomb on roller skates though

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 1:47 PM#1004

I'm the bomb on roller skates though

It doesn't count if you are going downhill :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 1:50 PM#1005

It doesn't count if you are going downhill :)

Got jokes! Seriously though, I would skate circles around you fools, I'm a gazelle on quads

IaHawkMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 6:50 PM#1006

It sounds like colluding is happening (ban them for that) but I’m with the poker room manager, how could they know what cards are coming? They are just terrible players and have been hot, or at least that’s what you perceive...they are more then likely dumping any winnings back into the game after you leave.

PaybackRegular26 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 7:01 PM#1007

It sounds like colluding is happening (ban them for that)

Poker rooms are not in the practice of kicking people (aka customers). For instance, I saw a dude literally punch the poker room manager, get booked for assault, and return to the poker room a week later like nothing happened and that was before 'rona slowed down business. Therefore, I can't imagine that a casino would consider a ban on collusion as it's almost impossible to prove in a live game.

IaHawkMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 7:14 PM#1008

I guess it varies from casino to casino but I’ve seen players banned (some temporarily and others permanently) for breaking posted rules and verbal abuse of dealers.

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 7:27 PM#1009

If someone punched the poker director in the room I like in Salamanca, getting arrested would be the LEAST of their concerns.

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 7:41 PM#1010

Poker rooms are not in the practice of kicking people (aka customers). For instance, I saw a dude literally punch the poker room manager, get booked for assault, and return to the poker room a week later like nothing happened and that was before 'rona slowed down business. Therefore, I can't imagine that a casino would consider a ban on collusion as it's almost impossible to prove in a live game.

Yeah, this has to vary wildly from room to room. If nothing else, it seems like a big liability concern to let this guy come back after assaulting an employee.

TheDukeMicro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 7:42 PM#1011

Poker rooms are not in the practice of kicking people (aka customers). For instance, I saw a dude literally punch the poker room manager, get booked for assault, and return to the poker room a week later like nothing happened and that was before 'rona slowed down business. Therefore, I can't imagine that a casino would consider a ban on collusion as it's almost impossible to prove in a live game.

I'd say that's an exception and an example of a very poorly run business. Allowing a criminal back on the premises is opening up the business to liability issues. Not the least of which is subjecting that manager to a dangerous work environment. If another patron ends up being assaulted by that criminal the business would also be liable for that as well.

PaybackRegular26 posts
Posted Oct 7, 2020, 9:23 PM#1012

I'd say that's an exception and an example of a very poorly run business. Allowing a criminal back on the premises is opening up the business to liability issues. Not the least of which is subjecting that manager to a dangerous work environment. If another patron ends up being assaulted by that criminal the business would also be liable for that as well.

No doubt a cherry picked egregious example. However, I've seen enough of these cases to know its happens often and casinos don't want to limit their customer base. Hell, I saw a guy get thrown out from a poker table twice, and somehow ended up sitting at the table, buying in and got dealt in again. The floor/security was required to let him finish playing the hand per gaming law before throwing him out a 3rd and final time.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 5:27 PM#1013

Lol, playing the $400 buyin 100k grtd tournry

Blinds 200/400 with 400bb ante

One limper, another makes it 1100, I shove 17k from SB with JJ

Raiser calls all-in for 8k

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 5:59 PM#1014

well, duh... Everybody knows pocket Jacks only have a 12% chance of winning against any preflop caller.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:00 PM#1015

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:05 PM#1016

I'm not sure I want to invest in a guy who plays jacks that badly. o_O:vomit::banghead::dead:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:06 PM#1017

I'm not sure I want to invest in a guy who plays jacks that badly. o_O:vomit::banghead::dead:

Everyone knows there's no right way to play Jacks!

Jonesey07Regular39 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:07 PM#1018

Everyone knows there's no right way to play Jacks!

Yes there is.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:16 PM#1019

Built my stack back to 20k, blinds 300/500 with 500 ante

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:19 PM#1020

Everyone knows there's no right way to play Jacks!

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:42 PM#1021

Been visiting this thread on and off. Cool story, and I find the part about the Cubans particularly interesting.

A lot of the hands with the Cubans that you've flagged as suspicious seem like PLO just being PLO. People get their money in bad all the time, their lines don't make sense, and then they of course win with absurd bullshit. If you're playing against people who are willing to be careless with their bets, it's a much more variable game than one where people play logically (i.e., fold a lot).

But there's one hand in particular that seems like a lot more than just Lady Luck rearing her ugly head:

I think 3 guys (the two regular cubans plus another one) were in cahoots so I got out of dodge before they got me today, left up a grand.

One straddles to 10, everyone calls, straddler makes it 50, we're all calling until last guy who makes it $255 and straddler cold calls. Pushes everyone out (third guy didn't get involved in this one)

They show up with T862 one suit and AKQ9 no suits respectively

They go once with everyone at the table but twice with each other and just smelled super fishy when the guy is calling the 10, letting his buddy make it 50 and then repopping to 255 with T862 one suit. Plus the Cubans usually buyin shorter (200-600) but both were max buying on this day to start which is out of the norm

If I were at the table for this one, regardless of whether I was in the hand, I'm walking away and having a conversation with a manager afterward. This is obvious, sloppy collusion. Dude with T862 semi-rainbow clearly got some kind of signal from the straddler to reraise. Plus they always run it twice with each other but once with everyone else? They always insist on sitting at the exact same seats? They couldn't be more obvious about this.

Don't play with these pricks if you can help it. Even if they're shitty cheats, they're still cheats. Not sure what else they might be up to; I suppose it's possible they've enlisted a dealer or have some other way of predicting the upcoming cards, but the collusion part seems clear as day from your accounts. And other casinos have apparently banned them for shady business too. Not surprised they have to drive 4 hours for a game.

Also, don't discount the possibility that they're taking advantage of sloppy dealers. The specific choice of the 1 seat is a little unusual, considering it's typically less comfortable than other seats.

If it's reasonably possible, it might behoove you to railbird this game while they're in it, so you can monitor them more closely and from different angles. I'd watch their eyes in particular, but anything is fair game. Of course, now you're acting as security instead of playing, but it could ultimately be better for your hourly to put in observer duty if it gets these cheats out of the game. Not only are they cheating you and other players, but they could ruin the game itself if they drive enough honest players out.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:47 PM#1022

My issue is that they're taking lines that make zero sense given board textures, ranges, etcwhen their opponents have hands they are never folding

Leading the blank turn when I flopped top set and committing for stacks, then consistantly going once in the big pots and coming from a 20-30% equity spot headsup each time to win

They do it to me and others

I get people play bad AND get lucky, but their luck seems boundless for months now, its unreal

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 6:57 PM#1023

My issue is that they're taking lines that make zero sense given board textures, ranges, etcwhen their opponents have hands they are never folding

Leading the blank turn when I flopped top set and committing for stacks, then consistantly going once in the big pots and coming from a 20-30% equity spot headsup each time to win

They do it to me and others

I get people play bad AND get lucky, but their luck seems boundless for months now, its unreal

Yeah, it's hard for me to make sense of that.

Then again, I've had countless people lead out, stack off, and make other absurd moves in NLHE with gutshots, bottom pair, etc. and get there, and of course it's always when I have a hand I'm not going to fold (or I'd have folded it). It's a lot more memorable when they get there too. Could be that they're colluding to play an especially aggressive style that wins them a lot of uncontested pots, and it leads to a lot of unusual situations when they get looked up.

The manager is kinda right that being able to see what cards are coming seems an unlikely explanation. How would they do that? Even with marked cards, it would be difficult to pull off. Not saying it's impossible, but without specific evidence to that effect, you're just speculating.

Like I said, though, some observation time when you're not in the game could be revealing. Even better if you can coordinate it with the manager or something, so more than one pair of eyes is on them. Cheats tend to get greedy and sloppy, and these two seem like no exception, considering they've apparently been banned from multiple other cardrooms. (This is confirmed, yes?)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:01 PM#1024

Yeah, it's hard for me to make sense of that.

Then again, I've had countless people lead out, stack off, and make other absurd moves in NLHE with gutshots, bottom pair, etc. and get there, and of course it's always when I have a hand I'm not going to fold (or I'd have folded it). It's a lot more memorable when they get there too. Could be that they're colluding to play an especially aggressive style that wins them a lot of uncontested pots, and it leads to a lot of unusual situations when they get looked up.

The manager is kinda right that being able to see what cards are coming seems an unlikely explanation. How would they do that? Even with marked cards, it would be difficult to pull off. Not saying it's impossible, but without specific evidence to that effect, you're just speculating.

Like I said, though, some observation time when you're not in the game could be revealing. Even better if you can coordinate it with the manager or something, so more than one pair of eyes is on them. Cheats tend to get greedy and sloppy, and these two seem like no exception, considering they've apparently been banned from multiple other cardrooms. (This is confirmed, yes?)

I've heard from other players they were banned at some properties but don't have details

Others brought to my attention their signaling and cuban sandwiching people when I first started playing in the game, and I have witnessed it

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:06 PM#1025

As far as how they cpuld know the end result to get it in bad, a dealer would have to be involved somehow

I don't see how marked cards would help with burns part of the process. I just know it feels very off and I'm avoiding their table moving forward

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:23 PM#1026

I'm avoiding their table moving forward

Smartest thing you have said in regards to this. You are a pro now. Your mission shouldn't be beating some random circumstance you have come across. You mission is nothing more than MONEY. If something is happening there, go elsewhere.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:25 PM#1027

As far as how they cpuld know the end result to get it in bad, a dealer would have to be involved somehow

I don't see how marked cards would help with burns part of the process.

Yeah, it would take a very particular method of marking cards to make it work with burns in place, and I can't imagine it would be very effective. But you never know. Every effective method of cheating was, at one point, a novel approach no one had thought of before.

I'd consider the lowest-hanging fruit to be that the dealer is just flashing cards to the 1 seat. After openers are out, the entire board is contained in just the top 8 cards from the stub. Could be intentional or just sloppy, and you'd have to watch the dealer super-closely to find out. (Maybe by railbirding behind the 1 seat?)

I just know it feels very off and I'm avoiding their table moving forward

This, to me, is the main thing. You've been playing poker forever, and you play professionally now. Over the years, you're bound to develop reliable instincts; it's part of what makes you good at the game. When those instincts throw up an undeniable red flag, on top of the specific points of suspicion you've noted, it's time to walk away.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:32 PM#1028

Smartest thing you have said in regards to this. You are a pro now. Your mission shouldn't be beating some random circumstance you have come across. You mission is nothing more than MONEY. If something is happening there, go elsewhere.

While I agree that he shouldn't continue to let these grifters make a mark out of him, there's nothing wrong with him wanting to get them out of the game. Cheats ruin poker for everyone. They not only steal from everyone, but their behavior drives out the recreational players and other fish who make games good.

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:35 PM#1029

While I agree that he shouldn't continue to let these grifters make a mark out of him, there's nothing wrong with him wanting to get them out of the game. Cheats ruin poker for everyone. They not only steal from everyone, but their behavior drives out the recreational players and other fish who make games good.

That is where I think you are wrong. It is not his job to make a facility run a clean game. It is the facility whose job it is to run a clean game. If said facility is not cleaning up it's own game on it's own without intervention from other players, then they aren't worth your time. Remember, no matter how much you want to play at a specific place, they want you to play there more.

CapybaraFanMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:37 PM#1030

Sounds like they are certainly colluding with the limp-reraise stuff and probably signalling in a pretty novice way most likely, but looking at their results over the sample described is near meaningless. It's live poker. How many hands can you possibly think you've seen of their play at this point?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:39 PM#1031

Sounds like they are certainly colluding with the limp-reraise stuff and probably signalling in a pretty novice way most likely, but looking at their results over the sample described is near meaningless. It's live poker. How many hands can you possibly think you've seen of their play at this point?

I mean, one could argue the sample size for Mike Postle is small too, only livestreamed games

But the goofy plays and end results told a different tale

CapybaraFanMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:44 PM#1032

I mean, one could argue the sample size for Mike Postle is small too, only livestreamed games

But the goofy plays and end results told a different tale

When you get a sample the size of Postle's recorded play and have a factor like him looking down at his phone during the relevant hands, maybe you'll have a better case.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:44 PM#1033

That is where I think you are wrong. It is not his job to make a facility run a clean game. It is the facility whose job it is to run a clean game. If said facility is not cleaning up it's own game on it's own without intervention from other players, then they aren't worth your time. Remember, no matter how much you want to play at a specific place, they want you to play there more.

It's definitely not his job. That's true.

But it would benefit him to drive them out of the game, that's what I'm saying. Clearly this PLO game was a good, profitable game before they arrived; that's why he was there. Now these cheats are cutting into his hourly and potentially ruining the game for others as well, which all hurts his bottom line.

If failing to drive them out means he has to play a less profitable game just to avoid them, then driving them out is a profitable long-term move, even if it won't get an entry on his session log.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:46 PM#1034

Postle was possibly one of the sloppiest, greediest cheats in the history of cheating.

The clip where he's trying to cheat at PLO and getting flustered by the card-reader malfunction is one of many smoking guns.

Someone ought to break his fingers and make him eat his phone.

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:48 PM#1035

But it would benefit him to drive them out of the game, that's what I'm saying.

A dirty game is a dirty game. These guys are banned in certain other facilities. Those other facilities are clean games. No dirty game will ever be profitable to you as a player long term. The clean games can be.

Seriously man, what are we talking about here? Even scum like Teddy KGB ran a clean honest game, and his sole purpose in life was to hustle suckers out of their money.

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:50 PM#1036

Postle was possibly one of the sloppiest, greediest cheats in the history of cheating.

The clip where he's trying to cheat at PLO and getting flustered by the card-reader malfunction is one of many smoking guns.

Someone ought to break his fingers and make him eat his phone.

Remember, the courts never said he was not a cheat. The court said the law doesn't allow them to rule on whether or not he is a cheat.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:54 PM#1037

A dirty game is a dirty game. These guys are banned in certain other facilities. Those other facilities are clean games. No dirty game will ever be profitable to you as a player long term. The clean games can be.

Seriously man, what are we talking about here? Even scum like Teddy KGB ran a clean honest game, and his sole purpose in life was to hustle suckers out of their money.

If he's dealing with the cardroom itself being involved in or complicit with the cheating, then I wholeheartedly agree with you. There's no redeeming a place like that.

But I don't see that in this case, at least not based on what Anthony has presented. I see a couple shitbutt cheats who are gradually getting themselves banned from every cardroom they can find. Once they're gone, I suspect the game will no longer be problematic, if they haven't managed to chase off everyone worth playing with. I could be wrong, but this is what it looks like to me.

Remember, the courts never said he was not a cheat. The court said the law doesn't allow them to rule on whether or not he is a cheat.

The courts can say whatever they want; they're bound by what they're bound by.

In the real world, his conduct at the table was totally egregious in a way that anyone who has seen the evidence should be able to see.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 7:58 PM#1038

Doubled with 66 vs AQ, flopped the 6. Up to 33.5k at 500/1k/1k

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 8:07 PM#1039

Guy on my left ran so bad. Gets it in pre with AK suited vs KJ off, guy 4 flushes him on river

Same two guys TT vs 66 all in pre, 6 on river to bust him

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 8:43 PM#1041

Doubled to 51k, avg is 82k

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 8:55 PM#1042

Blinds 1k/1500 with 1500 bb ante

Limp SB for 500 with A6 off, girl in BB raises to 6k with 21k behind, I shove, she calls with KJ off, we hold, up to 75k

ruskbaRegular32 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 9:04 PM#1043

Were there like 6 chips in each starting stack or what?

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 9:06 PM#1044

Is that a Brad Owen tee?

Great either way :)

Yep love his videos so when he posted that shirt and the welcome to value town shirt it was an instant buy.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 9:07 PM#1045

Were there like 6 chips in each starting stack or what?

we started with 30k but had black chips that were colored up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 9:20 PM#1046

192 entries today, down to 60. Final 20 move on to Day 2 Sunday

Sitting on 38 BB's at the moment

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 10:18 PM#1047

63k at 2k/3k/3k avg is 125k with 46 left

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 10:26 PM#1048

85k with 42 left

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 9, 2020, 10:32 PM#1049

Out 40th. Had AT with ace diamonds in blinds, 4 ways to flop of K54 all diamonds. Checked to last player (not the raiser) and he bets 20k

I checkraise all-in, he cslls with KJ of hearts, I miss my outs

mattross1313Micro-Stakes Grinder17 posts
Posted Oct 10, 2020, 6:41 AM#1050

Yep love his videos so when he posted that shirt and the welcome to value town shirt it was an instant buy.

His videos are great. I also like the Rampage Poker channel :cool

UnicornFlashMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Oct 10, 2020, 6:47 AM#1051

His videos are great. I also like the Rampage Poker channel :cool

Agreed. The two poker vloggers I watch. I actually watched Ethan's live stream when he won his WSOP bracelet. Stayed up until like 3 or 4 AM, but it was awesome since I had started watching his vlog a few months before that.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 11, 2020, 3:23 AM#1052

Damn, the 100k grtd tourney brought ALL the action to town

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 11, 2020, 4:39 AM#1053

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 11, 2020, 5:26 AM#1054

At least this was in the 1/2 and guy only had $230

Three ways, we both called a flop bet. Turn we check to him on button and he bets pot of $200 with $30 behind

He's been bluffing frequently with big bets, if he had the nuts here he would've bet less

So I pick him off, he binks the magic :8c: on the river lol. I can't ask for better spots but yeesh!

Still up $550 from the 2/5/10 game, but wasn't that great a lineup so moved to 1/2

Had tried the 5/10/25 first but zero action

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 11, 2020, 6:15 AM#1055

In for 2k out for $2,863

Lost that 92% favorite in the $500 pot and ran set of queens plus straight draw into set of Kings of a frequent straddle raiser that cost me a couple hundred, but a good night overall

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 2:50 PM#1056

Very interesting. I skipped the 10am start of 1/2 PLO at Luckys because I'm not looking to get Cuban sandwiched or continue watching them win all the monster pots as 20-30% equity underdogs.

Usually the game starts at 10am and is full, but it didn't start until just now at 10:45am.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 3:14 PM#1057

Very interesting. I skipped the 10am start of 1/2 PLO at Luckys because I'm not looking to get Cuban sandwiched or continue watching them win all the monster pots as 20-30% equity underdogs.

Usually the game starts at 10am and is full, but it didn't start until just now at 10:45am.

Probably other people doing the same thing as you. Cheats hurt games.

Could just be that it's a holiday, though.

Jonesey07Regular39 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 3:15 PM#1058

Very interesting. I skipped the 10am start of 1/2 PLO at Luckys because I'm not looking to get Cuban sandwiched or continue watching them win all the monster pots as 20-30% equity underdogs.

Usually the game starts at 10am and is full, but it didn't start until just now at 10:45am.

Are you there to keep an eye on them?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 4:12 PM#1059

Are you there to keep an eye on them?

Nope, I don't have time to play the role of casino security

My buddy just texted that the first table is running but isn't full, has two open seats

Usually get a 2nd table running between noon-1pm. I'll be leaving in 20 minutes to play

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 4:18 PM#1060

Very interesting. I skipped the 10am start of 1/2 PLO at Luckys because I'm not looking to get Cuban sandwiched or continue watching them win all the monster pots as 20-30% equity underdogs.

Usually the game starts at 10am and is full, but it didn't start until just now at 10:45am.

So does room management know that you will no longer play any game that these players are in? Do the other regs know as well?

It seems like if enough players bail on the game a few times and make it clear to room management why they aren't playing, the room might be more likely to 86 these guys.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 4:22 PM#1061

So does room management know that you will no longer play any game that these players are in? Do the other regs know as well?

It seems like if enough players bail on the game a few times and make it clear to room management why they aren't playing, the room might be more likely to 86 these guys.

The manager knows and I've spoken to a few other regs

What I find funny is that the manager says he'd love to ban them.

But a million of us have witnessed them signal raises, reported it, reported how they will raise people out with T862 and then run it twice with a buddy, and nothing is done.

There's a reason they don't play at the Hard Rock, they would get caught and booted.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 4:23 PM#1062

Also, before I even started playing there they used to get 7 PLO tables running on Mondays. But by the time I learned of the place they struggle to get three tables running

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 4:27 PM#1063

What I find funny is that the manager says he'd love to ban them.

If it's as obvious as you say it is, why the hell doesn't he just watch them play for a while?

It sounds like a room manager who just doesn't want to lose players. Get a few of the other Monday regs to tell him "we aren't coming back until these guys are gone" and it makes his decision super easy. The hard part, of course, is convincing the others to skip the game for a week or two.

BarrieJ3Regular47 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 4:29 PM#1064

The manager knows and I've spoken to a few other regs

What I find funny is that the manager says he'd love to ban them.

But a million of us have witnessed them signal raises, reported it, reported how they will raise people out with T862 and then run it twice with a buddy, and nothing is done.

There's a reason they don't play at the Hard Rock, they would get caught and booted.

If you can't beat em, join em.

Maybe it's time we show em the 'ol Barritino Sammich. TM.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 4:30 PM#1065

If it's as obvious as you say it is, why the hell doesn't he just watch them play for a while?

It sounds like a room manager who just doesn't want to lose players. Get a few of the other Monday regs to tell him "we aren't coming back until these guys are gone" and it makes his decision super easy. The hard part, of course, is convincing the others to skip the game for a week or two.

I'm considering just adjusting my schedule to play at the Hard Rock moving forward

The Cubans in multiway pots when others are all-in and someone is deciding to call will flip over two cards and announce "wrap" when the other two cards they don't show are AA as well, seen that move a few times

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 4:53 PM#1066

I'm considering just adjusting my schedule to play at the Hard Rock moving forward

Sounds like that's probably a good move - unless you believe that in spite of the collusion, the Lucky's game is more profitable. Then you may want to just suck it up and stay where the money is better.

The Cubans in multiway pots when others are all-in and someone is deciding to call will flip over two cards and announce "wrap" when the other two cards they don't show are AA as well, seen that move a few times

Your job as a pro is to not let stuff like this tilt you. ;)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 5:18 PM#1067

It's not about tilting me. It's about a room protecting the players

My buddy said Cuban in seat 1 put $1500 in preflop 4-way all-in with A26x with three diamonds

He was up agsinst AAxx, KKxx and AKQJ ds, ran it once and flushed, scooping a 6k pot

GeremieMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 5:39 PM#1068

I wonder if the Cubans would entertain any staking. I would be in for $500...maybe even a grand.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 6:11 PM#1069

Let's see how we do

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 12, 2020, 11:18 PM#1070

No bueno today. -$1,200 on the session. Never really got much going, was never in the positive. Didn't get many playable hands, the ones I did whiffed or got outdrawn, etc.

My final hand I flopped 2nd nuts with redraw on a short-stack and ran into the first nuts, went twice and got scooped.

Asian guy named Bong or Vong was straddling and raising almost every pot, spun his buyin up to 4K and gave it all back. Another guy at our table who only runs once picked up AA34 suited in a $160 restraddled pot, got it in 5-ways and won a $7,000 pot, then left soon afterwards.

At least none of my money went to the Cubans, they were still there, one of them with a huge stack. My table was a ton of fun at least, lots of laughing and joking going on, so despite the losing session I enjoyed myself.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 2:56 PM#1071

Playing the $200 Little Slick 100k Guarantee Day 1 today, finally have their newer tourney chips in play

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 3:14 PM#1072

Slowly chipping up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 4:01 PM#1073

LFG!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 4:15 PM#1074

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 5:04 PM#1076

Bud jones? Those edges look pretty sharp.

Chips are soft, light, rubbery

At 30k from 20k start on 1st break

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 5:34 PM#1077

Playing the $200 Little Slick 100k Guarantee Day 1 today, finally have their newer tourney chips in play

View attachment 553014 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/553014/)

roughly how many entries are expected?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 5:38 PM#1078

roughly how many entries are expected?

It's a multiday tourney all week. Todays 11am flight at 125 entries so far

Last weeks $400 buyin 100k grt hit 289k prize pool with 51k for first

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 6:14 PM#1079

No beuno. Had :kd::qd: in the CO, called a raise to 1500 by UTG. Blinds are 500/300 with 500 bb ante

Short stack shoves from blinds for close to 9k, raiser folds, I call, he flips over :ad::5d: and holds

Little bit later in same level EP limps for 500, MP makes it 2k, I call on button with :ac::6c: and limper calls

Flop :qc::8c::6d: bingo bango bongo! Original raiser bets 3500, we shove for 16k total. He snaps with :ah::ad:

Turn :8s:

River :qh:

Whomp whomp

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 7:18 PM#1080

Whomp whomp

  1. Cards played themselves.

  2. What were you're other two hole cards in these hands? ;)

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 7:51 PM#1081

No beuno. Had :kd::qd: in the CO, called a raise to 1500 by UTG. Blinds are 500/300 with 500 bb ante

Short stack shoves from blinds for close to 9k, raiser folds, I call, he flips over :ad::5d: and holds

Little bit later in same level EP limps for 500, MP makes it 2k, I call on button with :ac::6c: and limper calls

Flop :qc::8c::6d: bingo bango bongo! Original raiser bets 3500, we shove for 16k total. He snaps with :ah::ad:

Turn :8s:

River :qh:

Whomp whomp

View attachment 553114 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/553114/)

Full 9-handed table? Flatting with A6s there seems a little loosey-goosey, unless PFRer has shown himself to be a total pushover.

Hand kinda played itself after that, of course.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 9:19 PM#1082

Full 9-handed table? Flatting with A6s there seems a little loosey-goosey, unless PFRer has shown himself to be a total pushover.

Hand kinda played itself after that, of course.

We are 7 handed with plexiglass dividers

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Oct 15, 2020, 9:42 PM#1083

The manager knows and I've spoken to a few other regs

What I find funny is that the manager says he'd love to ban them.

But a million of us have witnessed them signal raises, reported it, reported how they will raise people out with T862 and then run it twice with a buddy, and nothing is done.

There's a reason they don't play at the Hard Rock, they would get caught and booted.

SixSpeedFuryRegular65 posts
Posted Oct 16, 2020, 6:16 AM#1084

No beuno. Had :kd::qd: in the CO, called a raise to 1500 by UTG. Blinds are 500/300 with 500 bb ante

Short stack shoves from blinds for close to 9k, raiser folds, I call, he flips over :ad::5d: and holds

Little bit later in same level EP limps for 500, MP makes it 2k, I call on button with :ac::6c: and limper calls

Flop :qc::8c::6d: bingo bango bongo! Original raiser bets 3500, we shove for 16k total. He snaps with :ah::ad:

Turn :8s:

River :qh:

Whomp whomp

View attachment 553114 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/553114/)

You know you can't beat the almighty three pair

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 1:13 PM#1086

When people who don't understand playing poker for a living ask, I show them this clip to sum it up

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialWpAware/posts/2656924324637087

I try to reenact this scene everytime I play dramaha. Specifically the fake reaction slow roll.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 1:25 PM#1087

I try to reenact this scene everytime I play dramaha. Specifically the fake reaction slow roll.

I love the Colonel being like "sigh, I GUESS I'm all-in with these quads"

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 5:08 PM#1089

You and the Cubans? Lol

I was thinking it lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 7:56 PM#1090

Room is crazy today, last flight of the 100k grt little slick

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 8:51 PM#1091

My buddies there waiting for 1/2 says its a 2 hour wait right now!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 8:54 PM#1092

My buddies there waiting for 1/2 says its a 2 hour wait right now!

383 entries into tourney, its nuts here

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 8:58 PM#1093

Start a 5/5 plo game....

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 9:01 PM#1094

Start a 5/5 plo game....

They don't have enough staff to open anything

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 17, 2020, 9:23 PM#1095

Guy on my immediate left was straddling and raising a ton

He made it 40, few callers, I repot to $250 with suited Kings and he calls with under 200 behind

Get it in on a 34T flop, we river the King and take ig down

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 18, 2020, 12:03 AM#1096

+$1,200 on the session. Unfortunately after the crazy busted the game got pretty tight. Lots of small pots, nobody paying off unless coolered so called it a night early

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:24 PM#1097

I fucking KNEW it!!!! One of my buddies heard from another player the Cubans got caught. I just messaged the room manager to try and confirm details

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:27 PM#1098

I fucking KNEW it!!!! One of my buddies heard from another player the Cubans got caught. I just messaged the room manager to try and confirm details

View attachment 556271 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/556271/)

If your gut says something is wrong then there probably is. I don't doubt that your raising of concerns to the floor manager a couple weeks ago made them keep an eye on them that resulted in this. Even I thought they were making some absolutely absurd hero calls and plays based on what you were saying.

JZPdubMicro-Stakes Grinder17 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:31 PM#1099

I fucking KNEW it!!!! One of my buddies heard from another player the Cubans got caught. I just messaged the room manager to try and confirm details

View attachment 556271 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/556271/)

+1 for the good guys.

Can't wait to hear what else you find out.

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:33 PM#1100

I fucking KNEW it!!!! One of my buddies heard from another player the Cubans got caught. I just messaged the room manager to try and confirm details

View attachment 556271 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/556271/)

wow, that's some shit. do you think you will eventually get details?

SixSpeedFuryRegular65 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:44 PM#1101

wow, that's some shit. do you think you will eventually get details?

Here's hoping! I would love to hear what sort of bullshit scheme they were running.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:53 PM#1102

I fucking KNEW it!!!! One of my buddies heard from another player the Cubans got caught. I just messaged the room manager to try and confirm details

View attachment 556271 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/556271/)

I know casinos don't roll like this anymore, but it would be a nice touch if they could have had their fingers broken on the way out.

Speaking of how casinos deal with this kind of thing, isn't there a company that specifically keeps a book of known cheats and card counters? I recall this being one of the main wrenches in the MIT blackjack team's works.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:53 PM#1103

wow, that's some shit. do you think you will eventually get details?

No idea but I hope so. Hell, maybe they just caught em snorting coke in the bathrooms, but I hope it was cheating

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:54 PM#1104

Here's hoping! I would love to hear what sort of bullshit scheme they were running.

Ditto - I doubt it was anything that someone, somewhere else will try (or that they won't try again elsewhere). It would be good to know what to look for if sitting with a couple Cubans in seats 1 & 6.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 8:58 PM#1105

I know casinos don't roll like this anymore, but it would be a nice touch if they could have had their fingers broken on the way out.

Speaking of how casinos deal with this kind of thing, isn't there a company that specifically keeps a book of known cheats and card counters? I recall this being one of the main wrenches in the MIT blackjack team's works.

Sadly, it's unlikely the casinos of old would have, unless they cheated "one of their own". Only poker players are victims of this kind of cheat. The house makes out like a bandit, hitting max rakes with greater frequency.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 9:03 PM#1106

Sadly, it's unlikely the casinos of old would have even cards, unless they cheated "one of their own". Only poker players are victims of this kind of cheat. The house makes out like a bandit, hitting max rakes with greater frequency.

Perhaps they make out in the short term, until they don't have a game to rake anymore because the cheats drove out all the straight-up players.

GeremieMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 9:18 PM#1107

Dodged a bullet there. Glad I didn’t stake those Cubans...would have been a complete write-off.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 9:29 PM#1108

I know casinos don't roll like this anymore, but it would be a nice touch if they could have had their fingers broken on the way out.

Speaking of how casinos deal with this kind of thing, isn't there a company that specifically keeps a book of known cheats and card counters? I recall this being one of the main wrenches in the MIT blackjack team's works.

I think there's a book for people who cheat the casinos (i.e. beat the house out of money at house edge games) but I'm not sure that applies to the poker rooms and people who are cheating because they're cheating other players rather than the house (generally) and not sure a small dog track would be included in something like that.

upNdownShark114 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 9:40 PM#1109

I think there's a book for people who cheat the casinos (i.e. beat the house out of money at house edge games) but I'm not sure that applies to the poker rooms and people who are cheating because they're cheating other players rather than the house (generally) and not sure a small dog track would be included in something like that.

It's kinda worse than that, because I know I've read multiple stories of guys getting cheated in poker by guys who had already been banned from blackjack. Translation, they don't mind letting suspected cheats play in the poker room.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:19 PM#1110

Cubans (and a goof chunk of @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/)'s bankroll -- and a bunch of other players, I'm sure) banned for life...

Wait, this is a good thing, right?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:22 PM#1111

Cubans (and a goof chunk of @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/)'s bankroll -- and a bunch of other players, I'm sure) banned for life...

Wait, this is a good thing, right?

Fortunately it's only been the past couple of months they've been getting me, but I would guestimate if it was indeed cheating that I got fucked out of somewhere between 5-10k in profit over that period if I had won the entire pots that they scooped

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:30 PM#1112

Fortunately it's only been the past couple of months they've been getting me, but I would guestimate if it was indeed cheating that I got fucked out of somewhere between 5-10k in profit over that period if I had won the entire pots that they scooped

And you're just one fish in that pond... They mighta got away with six figures...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:42 PM#1113

And you're just one fish in that pond... They mighta got away with six figures...

I mean I heard about seat six one-outing for a 13k pot so it wouldn't surprise me

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:46 PM#1114

Did these guys celebrate when they hit their miracle? Were their reactions genuine? Or did they act like they knew it was coming?

Whatever... Even if they took five figures from you and six total, still better to stop the bleeding. Glad to hear they got 86'ed.

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:56 PM#1115

Hell, maybe they just caught em snorting coke in the bathrooms

ha, it's a casino - i don't think that would get them banned so much as comped. ;)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:56 PM#1116

Did these guys celebrate when they hit their miracle? Were their reactions genuine? Or did they act like they knew it was coming?

Whatever... Even if they took five figures from you and six total, still better to stop the bleeding. Glad to hear they got 86'ed.

They always celebrate when they win. They showed no fear getting it in extremely bad time after time when their opponents had monsters they could never fold

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 10:57 PM#1117

ha, it's a casino - i don't think that would get them banned so much as comped. ;)

This is s dog track with a poker room

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 11:43 PM#1118

My buddy brian said

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 11:47 PM#1119

Even if they were marking cards, how would they know that they were about to hit their miracle one or two outer if the dealer burns a card prior to dealing?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 19, 2020, 11:50 PM#1120

Even if they were marking cards, how would they know that they were about to hit their miracle one or two outer if the dealer burns a card prior to dealing?

That doesn't make sense to me either, or why would they lead a turn card into me that doesn't help their hand or hurt my hand, committing themselves to the pot when so far behind?

The only assumption I can come up with is they had dealer assistance of some sort. Given Covid and the amount of money involved, rooms being shut down for months, etc. people get desperate to get caught up on money.

The room manager has seen my message on Facebook mentioning I heard the Cubans got banned today, but hasn't replied so don't have any concrete info yet, don't even know if he'll provide it. Would be nice since I'm the one who fucking brought up the issue in the first place

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:36 AM#1121

Since the manager hasn't responded to me I posted in some Florida poker groups about this trying to see if anyone has more details, this was an interesting response

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 9:45 AM#1122

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 10:00 AM#1123

Marking cards? How very retro and how weird to see it.

As people remarked earlier: how does that even help when the dealer burns cards?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 10:06 AM#1124

Marking cards? How very retro and how weird to see it.

As people remarked earlier: how does that even help when the dealer burns cards?

I've seen them signalling, but hadn't seen the marked cards. There might be more they are doing we don't know about that just wasn't caught.

The Twitter post from a year ago about two Cubans banned from Commerce mentioned one had a "large device" in their pocket.

Generally when they start they buyin for smaller amounts, and ramp up later

Maybe they need time to mark the decks in play with something that transmits to the device in their pocket giving them some sort of inside info what is coming?

All I know is I knew something was off, nobody is THIS lucky. Hope I find out more

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 10:27 AM#1125

Marking cards? How very retro and how weird to see it.

As people remarked earlier: how does that even help when the dealer burns cards?

As was also remarked earlier, if you know 40 cards that were dealt as hole cards, you can swing odds dramatically.

Or a crooked dealer could slightly expose the marked edge of a card under the burn to Seat 1 who could signal to Seat 6...

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 10:30 AM#1126

As was also remarked earlier, if you know 40 cards that were dealt as hole cards, you can swing odds dramatically.

This ^^^^ Think about it - he knows you have a set but he also knows you can't go full because it has all been dealt out. Makes drawing to the flush a bit more appealing ..........................

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 11:53 AM#1127

Or a crooked dealer could slightly expose the marked edge of a card under the burn to Seat 1 who could signal to Seat 6...

Any dealers let go, @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/)?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 11:57 AM#1128

Any dealers let go, @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/)?

Not that I've heard, but I haven't gotten much info yet, and I don't know how much info (if any) they'll give out.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:00 PM#1129

But I assume you recognize all the dealers and would know if one was gone?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:04 PM#1130

But I assume you recognize all the dealers and would know if one was gone?

Yes, the pool of dealers there is much smaller than the Hard Rock, so I would notice one being absent. Thing is, I didn't go this past Monday because I had decided a room that isn't protecting the players wasn't worth giving my business to. Even before this the Cubans were known to signal one another, when one had AAxx they'd flip up the xx (showing like a 9 and a 4) and say they had a "wrap" while trying to entice an opponent to call while another player or players were already all-in (i.e. influencing action) and they've gotten away with it forever, despite myself and other players mentioning to floors and management.

So I do feel somewhat vindicated if what I'm hearing is true, but at the same time, not sure I want to return to a place with such lackluster protections for players. Leaning towards giving more of my business to the Hard Rock in Tampa where the chances of my getting cheated seem to be much less.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:32 PM#1131

Nicking cards is a way to mark the edge of the card, making it visible from the left/right side of the deck. Because the left and right sides can be reversed in a wash/muck, this would only work if you had eyes on both sides of the deck.

...like seats 1 and 6.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:39 PM#1132

I had decided a room that isn't protecting the players wasn't worth giving my business to.

Did you let the floor at the dog track know the reason for your absence? Might help the shore things up for those left behind, of for your eventual return.... Always nice to have options to play.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:42 PM#1133

Did you let the floor at the dog track know the reason for your absence? Might help the shore things up for those left behind, of for your eventual return.... Always nice to have options to play.

Not yet, I haven't been there for one Monday so far.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:43 PM#1134

Nicking cards is a way to mark the edge of the card, making it visible from the left/right side of the deck. Because the left and right sides can be reversed in a wash/muck, this would only work if you had eyes on both sides of the deck.

...like seats 1 and 6.

Yeah, this is kinda the only way I suspected they could be marking cards. Most card-marking schemes don't allow you see what's coming unless you're nail-nicking or otherwise marking the sides.

What's incredibly foolish about this is that they could have made a lot more money and stayed in the game a lot longer if they'd been slightly more cautious about how they ran the scam.

Don't play quite so many raggedy openers, don't do obvious collusion stuff like whipsawing, and in general don't be such a sore thumb. The stuff Anthony has described them pulling is the kind of thing cheats should reserve for when they're ready to burn a game and move on. Their day-to-day scam should be much subtler if they're trying to run it long-term. Without all these glaring red flags, it might have taken a lot longer for anyone to start digging and eventually notice the marks.

Of course, on the other hand, we should be glad that most cheats are too arrogant and reckless for their own good.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:47 PM#1135

Yeah, this is kinda the only way I suspected they could be marking cards. Most card-marking schemes don't allow you see what's coming unless you're nail-nicking or otherwise marking the sides.

What's incredibly foolish about this is that they could have made a lot more money and stayed in the game a lot longer if they'd been slightly more cautious about how they ran the scam.

Don't play quite so many raggedy openers, don't do obvious collusion stuff like whipsawing, and in general don't be such a sore thumb. The stuff Anthony has described them pulling is the kind of thing cheats should reserve for when they're ready to burn a game and move on. Their day-to-day scam should be much subtler if they're trying to run it long-term. Without all these glaring red flags, it might have taken a lot longer for anyone to start digging and eventually notice the marks.

Of course, on the other hand, we should be glad that most cheats are too arrogant and reckless for their own good.

I mean, one of the Facebook responses mentioned these guys were doing it at Luckys/TGT two years ago, so it's not like they haven't gotten away with it for a long time. And they travel around, heard they're at Best Bet Jax playing poker as well, and they've traveled to Texas and who knows where else.

I guess when you've been getting away with something for years you start to feel invincible. And they've been banned from other properties, they just pickup stakes and settle down somewhere else to run their cheats.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 1:57 PM#1136

I guess when you've been getting away with something for years you start to feel invincible. And they've been banned from other properties, they just pickup stakes and settle down somewhere else to run their cheats.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 2:33 PM#1137

This scene actually crossed my mind as I was writing that last reply. Worm is a great example of a cheat who's quite good at what he does but has horrendous judgment and no patience. Every time he cheats, it like he's "skinning the sheep," very much like our pathetically obvious fellows from Anthony's case.

I guess there are enough casinos out there for them to bounce from place to place indefinitely, if the only consequence they face is eventually getting banned from cardrooms, one by one. Small price to pay for a 5- or 6-figure payout each time. But that's not the only risk they face. It's just a matter of time before these pricks cross the wrong guy. Most poker players have unremarkable backgrounds, but I've also played with a fair number of active and retired gang members, cops, and other guys you really wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of. And I don't even play in public cardrooms that much.

It's all fun and games until someone's waiting for you in the parking lot with a knife.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 3:09 PM#1138

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 3:19 PM#1139

That seems like a late and pretty vague response.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 3:24 PM#1140

That seems like a late and pretty vague response.

Yeah, especially since you specifically called his attention to their misbehavior, he ought to give you more than this "for multiple reasons" vagueness.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 3:26 PM#1141

He could at least fucking thank me. I expected no specific detsils, but a "hey, thanks so much for letting us know" would've been nice

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 4:34 PM#1142

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 5:04 PM#1143

The vague response may seem unfriendly, but smart. They may only "suspect" the Cubans of cheating, in which case to put it in writing would open the door for a libel suit. Simply banning them is the casino's prerogative, and the Cubans have no recourse.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 20, 2020, 5:22 PM#1144

The vague response may seem unfriendly, but smart. The may only "suspect" the Cubans of cheating, in which case to put it in writing would open the door for a libel suit. Simply banning them is the casino's prerogative, and the Cubans have no recourse.

Good point.

In that light, maybe the manager would be more willing to let a detail or two slip if it were to happen verbally in person.

inca911Regular77 posts
Posted Oct 21, 2020, 2:59 AM#1145

The casino may be concerned about their own potential liability in not protecting players like you, who experienced tangible losses at their game. Perhaps you are litigious at heart, and collecting information to attempt to recoup losses in court. There is no upside to them in sharing details.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 21, 2020, 11:15 PM#1146

These are the cheating scumbags, seat 1 in white, seat 6 in blue (sent to me by someone on Facebook who got the shots pre-covid)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 22, 2020, 9:18 PM#1148

@Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) have you watched Andrew Neeme trying to play PLO at Aria on his channel yet? It is cringe worthy.

Not yet but will give it a look. Love hold em players trying to play PLO

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 1:21 AM#1149

Just a headsup that I'm not playing this weekend, got a number of household projects to work on, new PC build and hopefully get to my USAnumberWON video as well, didn't want to burn the candle at both ends.

But will be back on the felt next week :)

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 1:28 AM#1150

Just a headsup that I'm not playing this weekend, got a number of household projects to work on, new PC build and hopefully get to my USAnumberWON video as well, didn't want to burn the candle at both ends.

But will be back on the felt next week :)

Good luck with the new computer.

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 1:46 AM#1151

Just a headsup that I'm not playing this weekend, got a number of household projects to work on, new PC build and hopefully get to my USAnumberWON video as well, didn't want to burn the candle at both ends.

But will be back on the felt next week :)

If the PC build causes you any trouble PM me - I can talk you through it easy enough.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 10:43 AM#1152

@Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) have you watched Andrew Neeme trying to play PLO at Aria on his channel yet? It is cringe worthy.

This one?

I don't think he played horrible. He wasn't amazing but I don't think his hand selections were cringe

Those Cubans getting it in preflop with J963 double s00ted against AAxx and KKxx and flopping JJx made me cringe lol

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 11:14 AM#1153

FYI, bananas turn black when you put them in the fridge. They're not meant to be refrigerated.

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 1:14 PM#1154

FYI, bananas turn black when you put them in the fridge. They're not meant to be refrigerated.

Only the skins turn black. The tasty part is preserved pretty well in the refer...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 2:12 PM#1155

Only the skins turn black. The tasty part is preserved pretty well in the refer...

I always put bananas in the crisper and they keep longer even if the outside blackens

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 4:52 PM#1156

Blackening bananas is worse than murdering chips...

I'm expecting @Josh Kifer (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/3222/) to issue a solid black chip with a yellow inlay.... $100 banana units.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 4:53 PM#1157

Blackening bananas is worse than murdering chips...

I'm expecting @Josh Kifer (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/3222/) to issue a solid black chip with a yellow inlay.... $100 banana units.

I'm not intentionally blackening them. But I can't finish them myself before they go bad if I leave them out wife doesn't eat them

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 6:35 PM#1158

Blackening bananas is worse than murdering chips...

I'm expecting @Josh Kifer (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/3222/) to issue a solid black chip with a yellow inlay.... $100 banana units.

I NEED TO MAKE THESE

grebeMicro-Stakes Grinder9 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 6:50 PM#1159

This one?

I don't think he played horrible. He wasn't amazing but I don't think his hand selections were cringe

Those Cubans getting it in preflop with J963 double s00ted against AAxx and KKxx and flopping JJx made me cringe lol

this one is rough:

Copper44Newbie3 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 7:02 PM#1160

this one is rough:

That’s the video I was talking about.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 23, 2020, 10:29 PM#1161

this one is rough:

Yeah, I would've called the floor over the minute the second :8s: hits the board...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 24, 2020, 3:06 AM#1163

this one is rough:

Just watched it before bed, tired so maybe I'm missing something, but the only hand that stood out was when he raised this preflop after limpers

Aside from that his other hands seemed ok. Which ones did you have an issue with?

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 24, 2020, 12:30 PM#1164

when he raised this preflop after limpers

Hold 'em move...

Chester CopperpotNewbie2 posts
Posted Oct 24, 2020, 2:59 PM#1165

What a fitting conclusion to the Cuban player saga.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 26, 2020, 10:54 AM#1166

I've posted about the Cubans on multiple facebook poker groups and also signed up to PokerFraudAlert and made a post in the forums there with pics and info as well.

I'll be back playing poker again this week on Wednesday, either the multiday 25K grtd tourney at Silks or a PLO game there if it runs. Then Thurs-Sat at Hard Rock in the PLO cash games.

grebeMicro-Stakes Grinder9 posts
Posted Oct 26, 2020, 11:45 AM#1167

I've posted about the Cubans on multiple facebook poker groups and also signed up to PokerFraudAlert and made a post in the forums there with pics and info as well.

I'll be back playing poker again this week on Wednesday, either the multiday 25K grtd tourney at Silks or a PLO game there if it runs. Then Thurs-Sat at Hard Rock in the PLO cash games.

4:36 :ac::ad::8s::8h: is this a 3 bet hand? Maybe I am too tight, but we are pretty much just playing AA here. Of course, he ends up flopping top set.

He has another AAQx hand that seems like he tremendously over-valued, half his stack in pre and caught the magical A high flop again. I also thought he way over-valued KK a time or two.

I have limited experience playing just PLO though, so maybe I am playing too tight.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 5:44 AM#1168

4:36 :ac::ad::8s::8h: is this a 3 bet hand? Maybe I am too tight, but we are pretty much just playing AA here. Of course, he ends up flopping top set.

He has another AAQx hand that seems like he tremendously over-valued, half his stack in pre and caught the magical A high flop again. I also thought he way over-valued KK a time or two.

I have limited experience playing just PLO though, so maybe I am playing too tight.

Headsup any AAxx if you can get it in preflop or create a low SPR postflop that you're never folding is generally fine

But deeper stacked I prefer to call and keep my hand disguised

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 5:53 AM#1169

Hadn't planned to play poker today, but didn't play at all last week and was just itching to shuffle some chips

Headed to Silks for their $150 buyin, 10k guarantee and managed to take 3rd for $1,548

On the money bubble ONE player (who is one of those miserable regs who criticizes other peoples play out loud) refused to pay the bubble

When I had A2 in the SB facing a shorties button shove and binked a 2 on the flop to bust his AK and bubble him, I reached into my wallet and handed him a hundo as a small consolation

Final table was grueling, but survived long enough to see a guy commit ICM suicide with 6's preflop when myself and another player were short (the miserable reg) and then the other shortie busted and then me, leaving my buddy Karl and a new friend Antaun headsup for the $3500 top prize

We started with 30k, I got it up to 90k, then turned top two pair Kings and Jacks, and doubled up a shorter stack who had flopped a set of 8's

That dropped me to 20k but I rebuilt to 110k when we got to two tables

My biggest stack was around 400k, but generally at the final table I hovered in the 300k range

Anyway, felt great to finish top 3 and know I still got it playing tourneys

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 5:55 AM#1170

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 1:34 PM#1172

I REALLY dig those tourney chips.

They're better than the ones Derby Lane or Hard Rock use for tourneys.

Also, some hands of note from last night:

Raise in LP with KJ off, guy on my immediate left calls. I put my hand up to block me seeing the flop and check dark to him while I watch him and let him know I'm not looking so I don't know if I hit but tell him I'm probably ahead. He checks.

Dealer brings the turn and I do the same again, this time he bets 5K. NOW I have to look...........flop was 58J rainbow, turn a King! Bingo bango bongo (thanks Mike Sexton), we got heeem! I checkraise to 15K and he thinks for a bit and calls. River is an offsuit 6 and I check, giving him rope to hang himself. He shoves all-in, I cover (had about 90K to his 60k to start the hand) and he flips over pocket 8's for the flopped set, argh!

We started with 30K and I see my stack dwindle down to 20K before I rebuild it to 110K and make the final two tables. One of the rebuild hands I get it all-in preflop with JJ and the bitchy reg is the only caller, so I state out loud "I hope you've got Tens!" and he flips over 8's and I'm like "that works too"..................

the flop comes KT8 and I hang my head in despair. The turn brings an Ace, so I have to hit a Jack or a Queen or I am WAMBOOZLED! (thanks Norman Chad!) and the Q hits the river and I'm just happy to be there.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 1:45 PM#1173

Dealer brings the turn and I do the same again, this time he bets 5K. NOW I have to look...........flop was 58J rainbow, turn a King! Bingo bango bongo (thanks Mike Sexton), we got heeem! I checkraise to 15K and he thinks for a bit and calls. River is an offsuit 6 and I check, giving him rope to hang himself. He shoves all-in, I cover (had about 90K to his 60k to start the hand) and he flips over pocket 8's for the flopped set, argh!

If you play that straight forward, you might get away. Assuming you bet flop and he raises, you're going to at least consider a set. When you bet turn and he raises, suspicions are higher. When you check river and he shoves, can you fold?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 1:49 PM#1174

If you play that straight forward, you might get away. Assuming you bet flop and he raises, you're going to at least consider a set. When you bet turn and he raises, suspicions are higher. When you check river and he shoves, can you fold?

There's no folding at Silks! Meh, it's a rebuy and the guy was kinda loose, so if I make it to the turn there and have him covered and there's rebuys I'm likely not getting away from it once I hit top two.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 2:10 PM#1175

oooh, oooh! Just remembered my FAVORITE hand from last night!

Blinds are 300/600 and I've got a TAG image. I opt to raise in MP to 1500 with :9d::7d:

One caller and then another guy repops small to 4K. We both call

Flop :9h::9c::4s:

BINGO BANGO BONGO!

We both check and the guy bets 6K. I think for a bit and checkraise to 14K. I figure he'll think his overpair is good and I have a smaller pair he is ahead of and that I was just putting him on an AK type holding, so I might induce him to stack off here. Sure enough he shoves, I snap and he flips over KK. We dodge the 2-outer and send him to the rail after the rebuy period is over.

toothpicRegular72 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 5:26 PM#1176

oooh, oooh! Just remembered my FAVORITE hand from last night!

Blinds are 300/600 and I've got a TAG image. I opt to raise in MP to 1500 with :9d::7d:

One caller and then another guy repops small to 4K. We both call

Flop :9h::9c::4s:

BINGO BANGO BONGO!

We both check and the guy bets 6K. I think for a bit and checkraise to 14K. I figure he'll think his overpair is good and I have a smaller pair he is ahead of and that I was just putting him on an AK type holding, so I might induce him to stack off here. Sure enough he shoves, I snap and he flips over KK. We dodge the 2-outer and send him to the rail after the rebuy period is over.

I know this situation well. I'm usually the guy with an over pair.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 27, 2020, 5:30 PM#1177

I know this situation well. I'm usually the guy with an over pair.

Me too, that's why I had to switch it up, can't play the nit card ALL the time

Also, kinda that guys fault, I raise from 600 to 1500 and there's a caller behind me and dude only reraised to 4K. Didn't protect his hand at all, but on that flop I'd be hard pressed to fold Kings in this tournament structure too

Marc HedrickMicro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Oct 28, 2020, 1:43 AM#1178

Congrats on the tourney cash. Just curious, why did you give away a tourney buy in to the guy who bubbled that refused to pay the bubble?

Edit...i think I misunderstood. It wasn't him who bubbled. Makes more sense, but still seems overly nice for a professional player.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 28, 2020, 2:32 AM#1179

Congrats on the tourney cash. Just curious, why did you give away a tourney buy in to the guy who bubbled that refused to pay the bubble?

Edit...i think I misunderstood. It wasn't him who bubbled. Makes more sense, but still seems overly nice for a professional player.

Because the world could use a little more kindness.

Don't get it twisted though, I'd still checkraise my grandmother

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 2:20 PM#1180

I just got a call from a buddy yesterday who gave me a story he heard about the Cubans again. At least one of them supposedly went in disguise to Best Bet Jacksonville and was using another players card to play on in the poker room.

Some players there confronted him and he admitted he had been banned but claimed he didn't cheat, and I guess one of the big dudes dragged him out of the poker room and beat the shit out of him, like kicked his teeth in and shit! I'm going to post in the poker facebook groups and see if anyone has more details on it, but karma's a bitch!

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 3:49 PM#1181

I just got a call from a buddy yesterday who gave me a story he heard about the Cubans again. At least one of them supposedly went in disguise to Best Bet Jacksonville and was using another players card to play on in the poker room.

Some players there confronted him and he admitted he had been banned but claimed he didn't cheat, and I guess one of the big dudes dragged him out of the poker room and beat the shit out of him, like kicked his teeth in and shit! I'm going to post in the poker facebook groups and see if anyone has more details on it, but karma's a bitch!

That's what happens. You think he'll learn his lesson when he gets out of the hospital?

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 3:55 PM#1182

That's what happens. You think he'll learn his lesson when he gets out of the hospital?

Relevant discussion (NSFW LANGUAGE) begins at 56 seconds, if it doesn't start there automatically.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 4:01 PM#1183

Relevant discussion (NSFW LANGUAGE) begins at 56 seconds, if it doesn't start there automatically.

This is one of my favorite monologues in this movie.

I don't like Nicky Santoro's character because he's a murdering criminal piece of shit, but man, the way he deals with people who try to screw him over is admirable.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 4:02 PM#1184

I can't condone violence, and stories like this tend to be exaggerated. That said, I hope that the lesson was learned. Sometimes a "timeout" is ineffective, and a more stern approach is required.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 4:02 PM#1185

My buddy said he got the shit kicked out of him and he was robbed too, but again, going off something he heard from someone else so don't know for sure

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 4:15 PM#1186

My biggest issue isn't with the Cuban beatdown. It's with the attacker, if they get away with it. The story encourages any poor loser with low morals to wait in the parking lot for you after the biggest win of your life, sending you to the hospital, penniless for the night.

Cheaters never think they will get caught. Ask nearly any inmate in prison, and almost all of them thought they could get away with their crime. The risk of a beatdown doesn't help. Everyone knew the mob used to run Vegas, yet there were still cheaters. The story of the ass-kicking won't discourage future "sandwich makers", but it may encourage more parking lot revenge.

Stay safe.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 4:32 PM#1187

I can't condone violence, and stories like this tend to be exaggerated. That said, I hope that the lesson was learned. Sometimes a "timeout" is ineffective, and a more stern approach is required.

I mean, we're talking stealing probably hundreds of thousands from people over the span of time these guys have been cheating. There are some scary dudes who play poker, eventually you're going to cheat the wrong one.

That being said, I'm getting the story from someone who got the story from someone, so I don't know if it's true or the full details. But it is nice to think there was some punishment for their actions rather than just moving to a new location to run their schemes.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 5:19 PM#1188

I mean, we're talking stealing probably hundreds of thousands from people over the span of time these guys have been cheating. There are some scary dudes who play poker, eventually you're going to cheat the wrong one.

Yep.

I'm not a fan of violence either, but it's hard to see how else to deal with cheats when there's no legal recourse. This is what happens when government decides that it's too much trouble to seek justice in certain areas. Eventually someone will take it into his own hands.

As to @Poker Zombie (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/334/)'s points, these guys are scummy thieves who stole from a lot of people. There's a world of difference between someone going after a scummy thief and someone who's just a sore loser robbing the big winner in the parking lot. I'd stick around to help police build a case against the robber, but the vigilante who dealt with the cheat would probably get a pass from me. Even if he robbed the cheat in addition to beating him up.

Speaking of all this, aren't there laws against what these cheats did?

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 5:24 PM#1189

Yep.

I'm not a fan of violence either, but it's hard to see how else to deal with cheats when there's no legal recourse. This is what happens when government decides that it's too much trouble to seek justice in certain areas. Eventually someone will take it into his own hands.

As to @Poker Zombie (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/334/)'s points, These guys are scummy thieves who stole from a lot of people. There's a world of difference between someone going after a scummy thief and someone who's just a sore loser robbing the big winner in the parking lot. I'd stick around to help police build a case against the robber, but the vigilante who dealt with the cheat would probably get a pass from me. Even if he robbed the cheat in addition to beating him up.

Speaking of all this, aren't there laws against what these cheats did?

Cubans right now:

https://memes.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/a1ad11d4-d967-4c56-a49c-14417928f2b3

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 5:51 PM#1191

Played the $230 buyin, multiday 25k guaranteed at Silks. Figured with a 40k running at Derby Lane the tougher players would be there

Early on I chipped up nicely from starting stack and was crushing my table

Then with the BB at 400 and facing a couple of limpers I make it 2200 from the SB with :jd::jh:

I get FOUR callers and the flop comes :6c::9c::qd:

I lead for 6k, a short stack UTG+1 shoves for 17k total, folds to me. 11k more with a pot of 34k in it so I make the call. He has :jc::tc: and is roughly 57% to my 43% I believe, so def got right price to call. But the :kc: seals it and he doubles

Manage to survive my table and get moved to a new table, sitting on 40k with blinds at 500/1k with a 1k ante, avg about 60k

Table is mostly folding a lot. It folds to me in the Lojack and I raise to 3k with :as::5d:

Everyone folds to UTG, I missed he limped, thought he was a blind, he calls. Flop is :ac::9c::5c: and he leads into me for 5k.

I think and figure I'm ahead so rip my stack in. He looks visibly distraught, he has around 75k so it's half his stack, but then he says ok let's gamble and flips a chip in to call

I figure he has the Ace with a sidecard that's a club, but he turns over :jc::9h:

So he limps that UTG, calls a raise OOP with it, and then calls it off against an opponent who could have him drawing to 5 outs (the jacks or 9's remaining) because I could easily have Ax with the :kc: or :qc: here, HURR-DURR!

But unfortunately the drooler is rewarded as he binks clubs on the turn and river to send me home

Got a contractor at the house today so no poker, but back on the felt tmrw

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 6:35 PM#1192

There are some scary dudes who play poker, eventually you're going to cheat the wrong one.

With those fake Versace shirts and shit?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 6:36 PM#1193

With those fake Versace shirts and shit?

I'm thinking the dudes with neck, face and knuckle tattoos

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 6:49 PM#1194

That being said, I'm getting the story from someone who got the story from someone, so I don't know if it's true or the full details.

My sources say what happened is that someone sent a very harsh tweet referencing the Cuban and a bunch of people at the table retweeted it. The Cuban left crying because the embarrassment and emotional pain.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 7:37 PM#1195

My sources say what happened is that someone sent a very harsh tweet referencing the Cuban and a bunch of people at the table retweeted it. The Cuban left crying because the embarrassment and emotional pain.

Bruises heal.

Social media is forever.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 29, 2020, 8:07 PM#1196

My sources say what happened is that someone sent a very harsh tweet referencing the Cuban and a bunch of people at the table retweeted it. The Cuban left crying because the embarrassment and emotional pain.

Oh no, not embarrassment and emotional pain! Anything but that.

I'll happily take the money he and his friend stole in exchange for some temporary discomfort and an internet post that will be well forgotten in a year or two.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 7:14 PM#1197

Back on the mean streets of PLO

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 7:20 PM#1198

It may be too soon to have relevant data, but have you noticed a profit uptick now that you're not being served sandwiches?

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 7:24 PM#1200

Hi, my name is @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) and I have been Cuban-free for 17 days.

Instead of a 10 yr chip, he gets a $100 chip?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 7:44 PM#1201

It may be too soon to have relevant data, but have you noticed a profit uptick now that you're not being served sandwiches?

I didn't play at all last week, and I haven't played at Luckys in 2 weeks

Chipping up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 7:59 PM#1202

Wheeee!

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 8:06 PM#1203

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 8:08 PM#1204

Clearly you enjoy PLO (as do I).

Maybe you have enough data to speak to this, maybe not, but I'm wondering how you feel about PLO versus NLHE, with regard to playing professionally. Is PLO more profitable? Do you personally find it easier or more difficult? Does the competition scale similarly across increases in stakes? Stuff like that.

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 8:23 PM#1206

jesus, not bad for 45 minutes of work. juicy today?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 8:24 PM#1207

Clearly you enjoy PLO (as do I).

Maybe you have enough data to speak to this, maybe not, but I'm wondering how you feel about PLO versus NLHE, with regard to playing professionally. Is PLO more profitable? Do you personally find it easier or more difficult? Does the competition scale similarly across increases in stakes? Stuff like that.

I find it easier and more profitable, players are generally looser and it's easier to get unstuck.

Hold em I find tougher to make a profit at

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 8:25 PM#1208

jesus, not bad for 45 minutes of work. juicy today?

The lineup not great, just running like god and guy on my left bluffs too much

LFG!

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 8:36 PM#1209

I find it easier and more profitable, players are generally looser and it's easier to get unstuck.

Hold em I find tougher to make a profit at

This is more or less the response I expected.

Hold'em is over-studied IMO. Since the poker boom wound down, players seem to make fewer and fewer of the egregious, costly mistakes they used to make. The ratio of serious to recreational players has grown significantly.

At PLO, on the other hand, folks seem to make the same magnitude of errors that I used to see in Hold'em back during the boom. Just horrible plays where they're getting massively freerolled or stacking off with under 10% equity. Good stuff.

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 8:52 PM#1211

This is more or less the response I expected.

Hold'em is over-studied IMO. Since the poker boom wound down, players seem to make fewer and fewer of the egregious, costly mistakes they used to make. The ratio of serious to recreational players has grown significantly.

At PLO, on the other hand, folks seem to make the same magnitude of errors that I used to see in Hold'em back during the boom. Just horrible plays where they're getting massively freerolled or stacking off with under 10% equity. Good stuff.

Since the equities run closer together as well (beaten and bruised Cubans notwithstanding) the less skilled players will book wins a bit more frequently than in NLHE.

Yes you can construct ranges for yourself and your opponents in PLO, but it's way easier to deceive those perceptions since you've got 4 cards instead of 2. This cuts both ways so the game is of course more volatile, but it also makes a way better metagame than NLHE. You can flat with AA or 3-bet with a nice suited rundown and you're not giving much equity up in either case. It's also harder to penalize / target these equity mishaps because of:

  1. The flop nature of Omaha.

  2. Most hands generally go multiway post-flop.

So what you have is big-bet poker that contains a skill edge but not as prominent as NLHE. It's almost as if @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) put some thought into his game choice before going pro!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 9:37 PM#1212

THANK U POKER JEEZUS! He's smiling down on me

As far as equities and skill, getting it in preflop they do run closer together. I prefer my opponents to make as large a mistake as possible, so I try to play small-ball and see flops and let them get into spots where they are 30% or less equity, sometimes drawing dead or close to it

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 9:39 PM#1213

I'd get up as soon as the droolers do. Keep getting that bad money in off of them.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 10:59 PM#1214

In for $1,500 and out for $3,833

Also had some free slot play and binked my first handpay EVER playing Lock It Links Huff n Puff

toothpicRegular72 posts
Posted Oct 30, 2020, 11:02 PM#1216

That's some run good right there!

wolfpackMicro-Stakes Grinder9 posts
Posted Oct 31, 2020, 4:04 AM#1218

Damn my dyslexia. I thought that read "Handjob Jackpay". A verrrrry different kind of win.

Not worth $1,361

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Oct 31, 2020, 12:26 PM#1219

Not worth $1,361

If it's paid out by Univision's Jackie Guerrero, you might reconsider.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Oct 31, 2020, 6:09 PM#1221

Back at it

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 12:12 AM#1222

Making me work for it today

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 12:34 AM#1223

Nothing more American on Halloween than Pumpkins. Got the double

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 12:37 PM#1224

So last night kinda kicking myself. Playing 2/5 PLO with $10 rock and limped button after other limpers holding :ac::2d::3s::3c:

BB recently won 50k for 1st in a hold em tourney and has generally been very aggressive, pots it to $70

I started with $1,500 and I'm up to $1,900, but am covered by Villain and a few others

Everyone calls, so with a suited Ace on the button I call as well

Flop :3d::6s::7s:

Everone checks to me, I bet $125, only Villain in BB calls

Turn :2h:

Villain checks. I opt to check when I should be potting here, given the flush draw on the flop being a likely holding.

But I figured at the time it kept me from committing to the pot if he was slowplaying the flopped nuts, and kept his bluffs in since he might lead the river given his overly aggressive style. Especially since my check makes me look like I had a draw

River :8c:

Villain leads for $300 into a $600 pot. I call and he flips over :kh::kd::9h::5s: for a rivered gutshot, ugh

The hand where I managed to double I pot with :ad::ah::6s::3s: in MP after a limper, and button who is a tough aggressive player who only runs it once repots

Folds to me, I repot.....he repots....I can't fold now and repot

We get it all-in and I figure he's got better Aces or a double suited broadway rundown

Turns out he has something like T976 suited, so has decent equity against me.

But flop is :ac::qc::th: and turn a :6d:, river the :ts: and we get the full double

Overall, despite my wins Friday and Saturday, I have just been relatively fortunate. The lineups have not been good and next week will be going back to playing much later into the a.m. to find softer targets

navelsMicro-Stakes Grinder16 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 4:32 PM#1225

Interesting segment on today's PokerFraudAlert podcast :-)

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 4:44 PM#1226

Interesting segment on today's PokerFraudAlert podcast :)

Link? I can't find it

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 4:54 PM#1228

Sorry to be salty about it but I have a really hard time seeing how a search in any podcast app or on google doesn’t find it. But here’s the forum post with an mp3 link: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/s...io-10-30-2020-The-Restraining-Order-From-Hell (https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?21243-Poker-Fraud-Alert-Radio-10-30-2020-The-Restraining-Order-From-Hell)

I'm blind apparently. Could have sworn I clicked on that thread and didn't see it. Much obliged.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 5:00 PM#1229

Wanna be more useful? You need a lot more street cred to get me to listen to an 8-hour podcast based off a single comment of "interesting".

ThinkingFoldMicro-Stakes Grinder10 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 5:02 PM#1230

Wanna be more useful? You need a lot more street cred to get me to listen to an 8-hour podcast based off a single comment of "interesting".

(3:28:44): Interview with forum member "Kn1sh", who claims two Cubans are cheating live PLO games throughout the US....

navelsMicro-Stakes Grinder16 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 5:15 PM#1231

Wanna be more useful?

Nope.

To be honest I was trying to not be too obvious about the connection as I gather the caller was trying to remain anonymous. Also in a podcast app there’s kind of a table of contents with direct links to segments which should make this really easy for readers of this thread. I’m now gathering not everyone on here uses a podcast app. If you listen to podcasts, I highly recommend Pocket Casts. Dangit, I hope that wasn’t useful.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 5:31 PM#1232

I was actually planning to share it once it was posted, just got notification today it was up

Bill_Man618Micro-Stakes Grinder15 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 5:32 PM#1233

I gather the caller was trying to remain anonymous.

If the caller was trying to remain anonymous they did a bad job because I think most people on this site will know it is.

Edit: @Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) said it was him while I was trying this out

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 5:34 PM#1234

Did the caller chant USA USA USA?

navelsMicro-Stakes Grinder16 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 5:35 PM#1235

I was actually planning to share it once it was posted, just got notification today it was up

Great interview.

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 5:55 PM#1236

Great interview.

“VIVA CASTRO!” was me. Lol.

Narrator: “It wasn’t really @Saoliver.”

Great interview, Anthony. You should give up childish video games and focus on a poker vlog or podcast. :p

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 6:03 PM#1237

I wasn't trying to hide who I was, I have posted numerous times as myself in poker facebook groups about the Cubans.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 6:09 PM#1238

So last night kinda kicking myself. Playing 2/5 PLO with $10 rock and limped button after other limpers holding :ac::2d::3s::3c:

BB recently won 50k for 1st in a hold em tourney and has generally been very aggressive, pots it to $70

I started with $1,500 and I'm up to $1,900, but am covered by Villain and a few others

Everyone calls, so with a suited Ace on the button I call as well

I'd say this was your biggest mistake right here. Little pairs are poison in Omaha, and this one even overlaps your suited ace. Essentially, this hand needs quad 3s or nut clubs, or it's nothing worth pressing. Barely even worth a limp in the first place.

And then the flop was crap too, despite giving you a set. Straight possible, and filling up likely gives you an underfull, which is probably behind if you get any real action. Exactly the kind of hand you can expect to catch with 33 in Omaha.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 6:14 PM#1239

Listening to the podcast right now. Good stuff. Kinda surprised you didn't mention the example where they whipsawed everyone with the raise from the button straddle and backraise from like T842o.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 6:42 PM#1240

Listening to the podcast right now. Good stuff. Kinda surprised you didn't mention the example where they whipsawed everyone with the raise from the button straddle and backraise from like T842o.

There were too many hands to list lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 6:50 PM#1241

I'd say this was your biggest mistake right here. Little pairs are poison in Omaha, this one even overlaps your suited ace. Essentially, this hand needs quad 3s or nut clubs, or it's nothing worth pressing. Barely even worth a limp in the first place.

And then the flop was crap too, despite giving you a set. Straight possible, and filling up likely gives you an underfull, which is probably behind if you get any real action. Exactly the kind of hand you can expect to catch with 33 in Omaha.

Oh I know pairs under 77 can get you into a lot of trouble in this game, it was essentially the suited Ace, being on the button and having a pretty multiway pot that sparked me to continue preflop.

As it stands, on the flop EVERYONE checked to me. Since the raiser was OOP and checked, I'm not expecting anyone else in the field to be going for a checkraise here, but just in case I only bet $125 rather than the full pot which was somewhere in the neighborhood of $350. I figured it was enough to elicit folds while also not committing me should someone up and checkraise in that spot.

Here were the odds on the flop and turn, so I had him in pretty rough shape, but my failure to not bet big on the turn is what hurt me. And given how he bet the river, it looked like a bluff that was trying to pounce on me if I had missed a draw, kinda hard to put him on the gutshot. And if he had a strong wrap on the flop I don't expect him to take a check-call line

He had six outs to beat me (four 8's and the two remaining Kings) and just happened to bink the perfect river.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 6:53 PM#1242

Just got to the part about the cheating incident at the WSOP.

The discussion they had about it reminds me of my own experience of catching a cheat, and the discussion (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-first-time-catching-a-cheat-yes-really.53927/) we had about it here. Specifically, they call out the staff on blowing the opportunity to definitively catch the cheat in the act, by making it obvious they were on alert about his behavior.

I took the opposite approach in my case, watching the cheat carefully for many sessions until I saw clear evidence of cheating, and occasionally reporting to the host. I didn't call him out on fiddling with the deck or any of it because I suspected he was using it as subterfuge, and alerting him would just make it a game of cat and mouse. Instead, I pretended everything was normal until he hung himself.

I took some flack for that in my thread. Lots of people thought I should have loudly protested his "fidgety" riffling of the stub or his taking the stub under the table, and insisted he strictly follow the rules on those things. With a person I believe to be an honest player, sure. Not with a suspected cheat. I think that logic holds solidly in my case, in the WSOP case, and in Anthony's case.

Imagine if, instead of sitting back and quietly observing, the cardroom manager had made a show out of checking the deck, or had forced them to sit in different seats or at different tables. They'd have probably not been caught yet. Maybe they'd visit less frequently, perhaps when that manager isn't around, but they wouldn't be banned. And they'd probably be working on ways to make their cheating less obvious (more conscientious hand selection for starters).

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 7:02 PM#1243

Just got to the part about the cheating incident at the WSOP.

The discussion they had about it reminds me of my own experience of catching a cheat, and the discussion (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/my-first-time-catching-a-cheat-yes-really.53927/) we had about it here. Specifically, they call out the staff on blowing the opportunity to definitively catch the cheat in the act, by making it obvious they were on alert about his behavior.

I took the opposite approach in my case, watching the cheat carefully for many sessions until I saw clear evidence of cheating, and occasionally reporting to the host. I didn't call him out on fiddling with the deck or any of it because I suspected he was using it as subterfuge, and alerting him would just make it a game of cat and mouse. Instead, I pretended everything was normal until he hung himself.

I took some flack for that in my thread. Lots of people thought I should have loudly protested his "fidgety" riffling of the stub or his taking the stub under the table, and insisted he strictly follow the rules on those things. With a person I believe to be an honest player, sure. Not with a suspected cheat. I think that logic holds solidly in my case, in the WSOP case, and in Anthony's case.

Imagine if, instead of sitting back and quietly observing, the cardroom manager had made a show out of checking the deck, or had forced them to sit in different seats or at different tables. They'd have probably not been caught yet. Maybe they'd visit less frequently, perhaps when that manager isn't around, but they wouldn't be banned. And they'd probably be working on ways to make their cheating less obvious (more conscientious hand selection for starters).

Indeed, they've been getting away with it for so long you don't want to call attention to it while you're trying to catch them. You get definitive proof and then drop the hammer. I definitely think the poker room manager did the right thing there. And I totally understand why he won't reveal the exact reasons for their banning.

But I'm still salty about:

  1. Him neither apologizing for this taking place or at least saying "hey Anthony, thank you for bringing this to my attention"

  2. The rooms knowledge that these guys did coke in their bathrooms, cuban sandwiched other players and would reveal two side cards when they had AA as the hidden ones and claim to have a "wrap" to entice a call from a player while other players were already all-in, yet essentially turned a blind eye and permitted it to continue

So I've opted to no longer give them any of my business over this and will just be playing at the hard rock.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 7:02 PM#1244

Oh I know pairs under 77 can get you into a lot of trouble in this game, it was essentially the suited Ace, being on the button and having a pretty multiway pot that sparked me to continue preflop.

As it stands, on the flop EVERYONE checked to me. Since the raiser was OOP and checked, I'm not expecting anyone else in the field to be going for a checkraise here, but just in case I only bet $125 rather than the full pot which was somewhere in the neighborhood of $350. I figured it was enough to elicit folds while also not committing me should someone up and checkraise in that spot.

Here were the odds on the flop and turn, so I had him in pretty rough shape, but my failure to not bet big on the turn is what hurt me. And given how he bet the river, it looked like a bluff that was trying to pounce on me if I had missed a draw, kinda hard to put him on the gutshot. And if he had a strong wrap on the flop I don't expect him to take a check-call line

He had six outs to beat me (four 8's and the two remaining Kings) and just happened to bink the perfect river.

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Clearly you were in a good spot against this hand. No doubt on that. In this specific case, you got your money in good and got unlucky.

But even post-flop, you've bottom set and got no blockers to 45 in a big multi-way pot. Of the kinds of hands people are continuing with past the flop, KK95 with a gutshot is way at the bottom of that range. More often, you should expect to see oversets, flush draws, wraps, combo draws, and of course the straight.

The action from the turn to showdown is all more arguable, since you're heads-up with all that context. I could make a case that you'll find yourself stacking off into a timid 45, 66, or 77 a lot on this turn. That's the thing about trouble hands, right? They get you in trouble.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 7:18 PM#1245

Indeed, they've been getting away with it for so long you don't want to call attention to it while you're trying to catch them. You get definitive proof and then drop the hammer. I definitely think the poker room manager did the right thing there. And I totally understand why he won't reveal the exact reasons for their banning.

But I'm still salty about:

  1. Him neither apologizing for this taking place or at least saying "hey Anthony, thank you for bringing this to my attention"

  2. The rooms knowledge that these guys did coke in their bathrooms, cuban sandwiched other players and would reveal two side cards when they had AA as the hidden ones and claim to have a "wrap" to entice a call from a player while other players were already all-in, yet essentially turned a blind eye and permitted it to continue

So I've opted to no longer give them any of my business over this and will just be playing at the hard rock.

I'd contend that the cardroom could have banned them on the blatant collusion alone. It did seem they were into something worse, but between the obvious whipsawing and the ham-handed code language, the manager could've preemptively decided they were bad for the game and kicked them out. That was enough for me to call them cheats; the card-marking was just gravy.

I think there's an additional step here that isn't being followed, which would make the discovery of the card-marking much more valuable: coordination with other cardrooms. Apparently they do this when it comes to pit games, but not so much with poker. It might not be necessary to spread the word about some local yokels who do sloppy collusion stuff, but these guys are clearly a dedicated card-marking operation, and they're making the rounds at any rooms that will let them in. Getting the word out would stop them in their tracks, and save a lot of people a lot of money.

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 7:23 PM#1246

nice job in the interview, anthony.

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 7:47 PM#1247

Speaking of all this, aren't there laws against what these cheats did?

I don't believe there are any laws in Florida that specifically make it illegal to cheat other players in a poker game. Florida law is pretty unfriendly to gambling - for instance, gambling debt is not legally enforceable here.

JimulacrumRegular69 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 8:00 PM#1248

I don't believe there are any laws in Florida that specifically make it illegal to cheat other players in a poker game. Florida law is pretty unfriendly to gambling - for instance, gambling debt is not legally enforceable here.

That's unfortunate.

I can kinda understand the position that government shouldn't take on the responsibility of moderating gambling debts and transactions. That's a lot of specialized debt and transactions, and it takes an agile, specialized bureaucracy to wade through it all.

But clearly the effect of shirking this responsibility is that the gaming institutions end up being less than secure affairs, and they earn a reputation as such, which hurts basically everyone. It's not an accident that most home games are cheeseburger stakes, while bigger games tend to gravitate toward a casino setting. If you can't be confident that you have "security" via trust in your players, then it's best to have an actual security team.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 8:07 PM#1249

That's unfortunate.

I can kinda understand the position that government shouldn't take on the responsibility of moderating gambling debts and transactions. That's a lot of specialized debt and transactions, and it takes an agile, specialized bureaucracy to wade through it all.

But clearly the effect of shirking this responsibility is that the gaming institutions end up being less than secure affairs, and they earn a reputation as such, which hurts basically everyone. It's not an accident that most home games are cheeseburger stakes, while bigger games tend to gravitate toward a casino setting. If you can't be confident that you have "security" via trust in your players, then it's best to have an actual security team.

The biggest games in the Tampa area are private ones so they can invite the whales and keep the pros out

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Nov 1, 2020, 8:55 PM#1250

That's unfortunate.

I can kinda understand the position that government shouldn't take on the responsibility of moderating gambling debts and transactions. That's a lot of specialized debt and transactions, and it takes an agile, specialized bureaucracy to wade through it all.

But clearly the effect of shirking this responsibility is that the gaming institutions end up being less than secure affairs, and they earn a reputation as such, which hurts basically everyone. It's not an accident that most home games are cheeseburger stakes, while bigger games tend to gravitate toward a casino setting. If you can't be confident that you have "security" via trust in your players, then it's best to have an actual security team.

Agreed, though there could be general fraud laws that might be applicable to cheating. I'm not sure.

Maybe I can summon @PokerXanadu (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1508/) for a better answer. He knows Florida gambling law better than anyone else I know, but I don't think he's been on PCF in several months.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 2, 2020, 1:39 AM#1251

Lol, Knish updated for 2020

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Nov 2, 2020, 2:22 AM#1252

Agreed, though there could be general fraud laws that might be applicable to cheating. I'm not sure.

Most states will rule exactly the same as California did with the Postle dumpster fire. The law doesn't give them a means to adjudicate what WOULD HAVE HAPPENED in a gambling scenario if it were not for the cheating. There is just no real way to make anybody whole here.

My opinion may be different from everyone else here, but I don't think the Cubans are the ones people should be suing. The card room is not offering the game for free. They make money off of this. Shouldn't they be held responsible for providing a secure game? Didn't quite a few people know something was up with the two of them, but the card room did nothing until you made it obvious to the card room that you knew something wasn't right here? Would they EVER do anything about it if not for you? That is what I would try to go after.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 2, 2020, 2:53 AM#1253

Most states will rule exactly the same as California did with the Postle dumpster fire. The law doesn't give them a means to adjudicate what WOULD HAVE HAPPENED in a gambling scenario if it were not for the cheating. There is just no real way to make anybody whole here.

My opinion may be different from everyone else here, but I don't think the Cubans are the ones people should be suing. The card room is not offering the game for free. They make money off of this. Shouldn't they be held responsible for providing a secure game? Didn't quite a few people know something was up with the two of them, but the card room did nothing until you made it obvious to the card room that you knew something wasn't right here? Would they EVER do anything about it if not for you? That is what I would try to go after.

The problem is proving it. All of the information is in their hands, it could just disappear

Oh, we don't have any footage of them cheating, they just broke our rules of ettiquete and are no longer welcome

Plus, if I sue a card room, how long before other rooms ban me to protect themselves and now I have to move to another area to play?

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Nov 2, 2020, 3:24 AM#1254

The problem is proving it. All of the information is in their hands, it could just disappear

Oh, we don't have any footage of them cheating, they just broke our rules of ettiquete and are no longer welcome

Plus, if I sue a card room, how long before other rooms ban me to protect themselves and now I have to move to another area to play?

Ok let me change that then - If a place is making money off of me AND I have to tell them that their game is dirty and they need to look into it, I don't bother. I tell everyone else playing there (off to the side somehow so it isn't obvious) that their game is dirty and I don't back there then. This place doesn't deserve to be in business, and they need to be shut down.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 2, 2020, 8:48 AM#1255

Ok let me change that then - If a place is making money off of me AND I have to tell them that their game is dirty and they need to look into it, I don't bother. I tell everyone else playing there (off to the side somehow so it isn't obvious) that their game is dirty and I don't back there then. This place doesn't deserve to be in business, and they need to be shut down.

I stopped going and the word is already out amongst the regulars that I'm the one who prompted the Cubans finally getting picked off

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Nov 2, 2020, 1:54 PM#1256

the word is already out amongst the regulars that I'm the one who prompted the Cubans finally getting picked off...

GeremieMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 2, 2020, 4:03 PM#1257

Hopefully those Cubans don’t have any connections to MS-13

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 2, 2020, 10:48 PM#1258

Hopefully those Cubans don’t have any connections to MS-13

I didn't see any face tattoos and they don't seem particularly badass.

Not to mention I'm the height of an average 9 year old, so any bullets fired chest high will pass over my head anyway

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Nov 3, 2020, 10:22 PM#1259

I didn't see any face tattoos and they don't seem particularly badass.

Not to mention I'm the height of an average 9 year old, so any bullets fired chest high will pass over my head anyway

I heard they like to take out kneecaps. If true, you may want to duck.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 11:44 AM#1260

So just an update on why I've been so quiet lately. I had been dealing with sciatica that had gone away about 3 weeks ago. Had been going to the gym (not daily, but regularly) and was feeling better.

Last Friday the sciatica flared up again. This past Monday it was really rough, because we had a 1 hour drive each way and I was in constant pain. I wound up going to an Urgent Care spot near home when we got back. They gave me a steroid shot in the arm (were going to give me something else that began with the letter "T", can't recall what it was, but they were all out) and prescribed muscle relaxers.

After three days of muscle relaxers I wasn't seeing any relief, it was actually getting worse. It got so bad that I couldn't find a comfortable position to lie down at night. On my back with heels and buttocks against the bed, on either side, pillow under legs, no pillow under head, pillow between legs. I was in pain regardless.

The same with sitting down. I could stand and ambulate just fine, maybe with a little soreness, but not too bad. Hell, I was even able to take it easy on the elliptical at the gym with no pain. But within a minute of sitting down, especially in my car, the pain would flare up and be almost unbearable.

On Monday the pain was in my lower right back and then my upper right thigh. But by Wednesday it was shooting down my leg into my foot! Wednesday night I stopped with the muscle relaxers and took Excedrin and was able to get some relief to the pain, enough to get a decent nights sleep.

Went back to the Urgent Care near me (if you followup on your visit within 10 days there's no additional charges) and they prescribed a steroid pill to take and said I should also look into physical therapy to help me correct whatever is causing the pinched nerve and assist with pain management.

So at least I'm able to move around, but sitting and lying down are both difficult (and some of my favorite activities, lol!) So haven't been able to hit the poker room or even sit at my computer much given the situation.

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 11:58 AM#1261

have you considered a chiropractor? if it is structural, which it sounds like it almost certainly is, all the muscle relaxers and steroids in the world arent going to do a thing.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 12:07 PM#1262

have you considered a chiropractor? if it is structural, which it sounds like it almost certainly is, all the muscle relaxers and steroids in the world arent going to do a thing.

The doctor recommended Tampa Health Centers and they have a Chiro department, going to be reaching out to them today to see what my options are. She did do an xray and said everything looked good on that

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 12:51 PM#1263

The doctor recommended Tampa Health Centers and they have a Chiro department, going to be reaching out to them today to see what my options are. She did do an xray and said everything looked good on that

right but an x-ray isn't going to pick up a herniated disc, you would need an MRI for that.

I had a bout with bad sciatica many years ago, I feel for you it is miserable. but my back still goes out from time to time, I have a disc that is prone to pop out and pinch the nerve. the chiro can always fix it quickly (though they try to get their hooks in you permanently) and he showed me a number of stretches that I can usually use to fix it myself. bad backs suck. good luck today.

PerthmikeRegular40 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 12:52 PM#1264

Anyone but a chiro. Physio or osteopath ftw

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 1:28 PM#1265

I feel ya Anthony - Sciatica is the worst. Chiro didn't work for me but it did for my wife. She is susceptible to placido effects so take that that for what its worth.

What I have learned is that when I have a flare up I hit the steroid pack IMMEDIATLEY. that usually clears it up in two days. Otherwise it lingers for a couple weeks or worse. They key is to get the steroid going quickly. Normally I'm the kind of person who wants to tough it out for a week or so but that has proved counter productive.

Good luck recovering and I hope you feel better soon.

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 1:45 PM#1266

Anyone but a chiro. Physio or osteopath ftw

I know Chiros get a bad rap, and I am skeptical by nature, but they do good work on basic adjustments, and sometimes that is all you need. They can get a little too quacky beyond that, and they WILL try to get you hooked as a permanent customer.

Reminds me of a joke my FIL likes to tell. How do you spell chiropractor? T-H-I-E-F

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 1:48 PM#1267

I feel ya Anthony - Sciatica is the worst. Chiro didn't work for me but it did for my wife. She is susceptible to placido effects so take that that for what its worth.

What I have learned is that when I have a flare up I hit the steroid pack IMMEDIATLEY. that usually clears it up in two days. Otherwise it lingers for a couple weeks or worse. They key is to get the steroid going quickly. Normally I'm the kind of person who wants to tough it out for a week or so but that has proved counter productive.

Good luck recovering and I hope you feel better soon.

sounds likely that your problem is muscular and your wife's is/was structural? hence the differing effective treatments.

anyway I'm derailing. I just have way too much experience with back pain lol.

PerthmikeRegular40 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 2:11 PM#1268

I know Chiros get a bad rap, and I am skeptical by nature, but they do good work on basic adjustments, and sometimes that is all you need. They can get a little too quacky beyond that, and they WILL try to get you hooked as a permanent customer.

Reminds me of a joke my FIL likes to tell. How do you spell chiropractor? T-H-I-E-F

Adjustments do work, but from my experience back pain is caused by underlying issues and a chiro just doesn't seem to want to resolve them. It seems like a short-term fix compared to the other options.

And it doesn't help that the guy that founded chiro was a total fraud.

BeakertwangRegular96 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 2:21 PM#1269

She is susceptible to placido effects so take that that for what its worth.

Does operatic tenor singing heal her back pain? :whistle: :whistling:

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 2:40 PM#1270

My wife says it's all the hours sitting down and the drug was likely Toradol. Best of luck with your recovery.

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:28 PM#1271

I'm just glad it wasn't the Cuban mafia that got you! Besides, have to let the games replenish once in awhile so that they're nice and juicy upon your return!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:38 PM#1272

My wife says it's all the hours sitting down and the drug was likely Toradol. Best of luck with your recovery.

Yes, Toradol is what it was!

And yes, it's all the sitting, poker tables and playing games at my computer

Just gotta keep up with my gym visits and adjust my diet a bit

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:43 PM#1273

She is susceptible to placido effects

Does operatic tenor singing heal her back pain? :whistle: :whistling:

Damn you Beaker, I had that snippet all quoted up to make the same joke!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:44 PM#1274

I'm just glad it wasn't the Cuban mafia that got you! Besides, have to let the games replenish once in awhile so that they're nice and juicy upon your return!

I always say you gotta shear the sheep, not slaughter them!

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:45 PM#1275

Yes, Toradol is what it was!

And yes, it's all the sitting, poker tables and playing games at my computer

Just gotta keep up with my gym visits and adjust my diet a bit

I know it's not an option in the card room, but have you considered a standing desk at home? That might help by reducing the time you spend on your butt every day.

BeakertwangRegular96 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:45 PM#1276

Damn you Beaker, I had that snippet all quoted up to make the same joke!

I’ll give you 35% credit.

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:47 PM#1277

I’ll give you 35% credit.

So you're saying I have outs?

BeakertwangRegular96 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:47 PM#1278

So you're saying I have outs?

We’ll call it a chopped pot.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 3:48 PM#1279

I know it's not an option in the card room, but have you considered a standing desk at home? That might help by reducing the time you spend on your butt every day.

Not my style, but at the poker table and at home going to incorporate breaks where I get up and walk around a bit

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 4:12 PM#1280

Wouldn't a regular desk already be a standing desk for Anthony? ;)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 7, 2020, 4:16 PM#1281

Wouldn't a regular desk already be a standing desk for Anthony? ;)

A stand-under desk

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 8, 2020, 7:33 AM#1283

My buddie Reggie chopped 4 ways in the Sat 75k grt tourney for 11k

I'm back at the tables. Still having sciatic pain but taking breaks

Here is the list when I arrived earlier

Schmendr1ckShark104 posts
Posted Nov 8, 2020, 3:20 PM#1284

HRT was running a lot of tables last night!

buzzmonkeyMicro-Stakes Grinder24 posts
Posted Nov 8, 2020, 5:46 PM#1285

Does operatic tenor singing heal her back pain? :whistle: :whistling:

If they have a fever and sing directly at your back from close range that could be...well basically an expensive way to apply heat to the area.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 8, 2020, 5:56 PM#1286

HRT was running a lot of tables last night!

The one-day 50k and 75k tournies draw in A LOT of players, which produces a nice bump for the cash games

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Nov 8, 2020, 6:01 PM#1287

I feel ur pain. I deal with sciatica all the time. It’s horrible. I am the opposite of u - I can’t stand up For long periods of time. Sitting and lying in bed (On my side) is generally ok - I have L4/L5 issues. When it gets bad enough I go to the back doc for a cortisone shot (in my back). I have been told I am at the limit with those and back surgery is on the horizon. A couple things, believe it or not I have found that moving around helps. I play a lot of golf (golf swing does NOT help by the way! But walking around does). I have also been told that The elliptical is bad for sciatica so I typically opt for the treadmill. Never tried a chiropractor. Always went to the back doc.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 8, 2020, 7:13 PM#1288

I feel ur pain. I deal with sciatica all the time. It’s horrible. I am the opposite of u - I can’t stand up For long periods of time. Sitting and lying in bed (On my side) is generally ok - I have L4/L5 issues. When it gets bad enough I go to the back doc for a cortisone shot (in my back). I have been told I am at the limit with those and back surgery is on the horizon. A couple things, believe it or not I have found that moving around helps. I play a lot of golf (golf swing does NOT help by the way! But walking around does). I have also been told that The elliptical is bad for sciatica so I typically opt for the treadmill. Never tried a chiropractor. Always went to the back doc.

When it initially hit me a few months back, walking definitely helped a LOT. This time around it's less effective, because it seems to be a pinched nerve issue that is impacted by pressure applied when I sit or lie down, regardless of how I position myself.

Standing and moving takes that pressure away, but it hasn't seemed to resolve the issue yet. But planning to use the gym daily and see how it goes. I've read the opposite for sciatica, that treadmills produce more impact on your feet, causing more pain than using an elliptical which doesn't have that pounding/jarring impact to it and also has me moving my upper body more than I likely would on a treadmill, so I get a better range of motion.

I'm sure different pain centers require different approaches, but sorry to hear that you may have to resort to surgery :(

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 9, 2020, 12:04 PM#1289

I feel ur pain. I deal with sciatica all the time. It’s horrible. I am the opposite of u - I can’t stand up For long periods of time. Sitting and lying in bed (On my side) is generally ok - I have L4/L5 issues. When it gets bad enough I go to the back doc for a cortisone shot (in my back). I have been told I am at the limit with those and back surgery is on the horizon. A couple things, believe it or not I have found that moving around helps. I play a lot of golf (golf swing does NOT help by the way! But walking around does). I have also been told that The elliptical is bad for sciatica so I typically opt for the treadmill. Never tried a chiropractor. Always went to the back doc.

If you need back surgery, a chiro isn't going to help much.

Are you looking at discectomy and L4-L5 fusion?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:20 AM#1290

Just an update on the Cubans. Spoke to another player who stated he was informed the way they marked the cards was to use their nails to mark the edges in positions on the cards that denoted the value of the card. So based on where the card was marked they could determine if it was a King, a deuce, etc. So that appears to be what to watch for.

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:28 AM#1291

I thought they were signaling. I’d think marking cards in a casino game with a dealer would be a difficult exercise. Especially as a tag team signaling would be more effective

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:30 AM#1292

I thought they were signaling. I’d think marking cards in a casino game with a dealer would be a difficult exercise. Especially as a tag team signaling would be more effective

They signal too. The card marking seems to be the biggest contributor to their success though

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:35 AM#1293

I understand nicking cards is so you can false deal cards by feel. It’s not really a visible mark. Especially hard to identify if somebody down the table has a nicked card and what it is. I’m glad they got discovered and blackballed but I would still bet they were just signaling and squeezing the guys at the table.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:36 AM#1294

I understand nicking cards is so you can false deal cards by feel. It’s not really a visible mark. Especially hard to identify if somebody down the table has a nicked card and what it is. I’m glad they got discovered and blackballed but I would still bet they were just signaling and squeezing the guys at the table.

There were outrageous hands they won where only one was in the pot, against me and others

They were banned from Commerce for marking cards last year. They were marking cards. You can believe whatever you want, it was more than just signaling

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:47 AM#1295

Ok. I’ll take your word for it. I’m not involved and not calling you out or anything.

I have a decent library on cheating history and methods and was just discussing my thoughts based on what I think a two man team could get away with in a casino card room. It’s a personal interest and I’ve sat in a game with a marked deck and can tell you it’s damn hard to track. Marking is more effective in small 5-6 handed games at smaller tables. Also, they have to deal with a casino dealer handling and swapping out the decks. I’ll take your word for it but still think it’s a lot of complexity for them.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:49 AM#1296

Ok. I’ll take your word for it. I’m not involved and not calling you out or anything.

I have a decent library on cheating history and methods and was just discussing my thoughts based on what I think a two man team could get away with in a casino card room. It’s a personal interest and I’ve sat in a game with a marked deck and can tell you it’s damn hard to track. Marking is more effective in small 5-6 handed games at smaller tables. Also, they have to deal with a casino dealer handling and swapping out the decks. I’ll take your word for it but still think it’s a lot of complexity foe them.

This room uses hand shuffle, no auto shufflers. One player is on the left of the dealer in seat 1, the other in seat 6 diagonal. So they have viewing angles on both sides of the deck

Not sure about other rooms they played, but obviously was very effective. For sure signaling as well with either info on cards they saw marked or to setup the cuban sandwich with raises

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:52 AM#1297

Also, the room manager when I mentioned the situation told me he had 25 years working in the industry and didn't see how they could know results with marked cards if a burn was used

But he said he would put in a fresh deck and monitor it. 2 weeks later the cubans were banned for life. I have to assume he found something on the fresh decks given that outcome, info from other players and locations also pointing to marked cards

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:54 AM#1298

I wish you’d picked up another term. My long time personal association of a cuban sandwich involves me, two cuban girls and no cards. Although i guess cheating could be involved.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:55 AM#1299

I wish you’d picked up another term. My long time personal association of a cuban sandwich involves me, two cuban girls and no cards. Although i guess cheating could be involved.

Can you imagine the side-eye I'll toss if someone offered me a cuban sandwich? :P

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:58 AM#1300

As a Miami-born Florida native, it’s been a bucket list item since I was about 13.

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 1:00 AM#1301

Can you imagine the side-eye I'll toss if someone offered me a cuban sandwich? :p

Well, it IS actually also a damn good sandwich. Like for a meal.

Not like a hot dog, which we all know is not a sandwich. :whistle: :whistling:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 3:16 AM#1302

Posted an update on facebook and got this

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 3:43 AM#1303

How many tables did the dog track have? Is it common to keep a deck in play indefinitely?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 7:51 AM#1304

How many tables did the dog track have? Is it common to keep a deck in play indefinitely?

If I had to guess their total quantity of tables in the room, maybe 15'ish. Never saw them all in use though.

Total for PLO was 4 that I've seen at one time, heard they used to get 7 back in the day.

I never stayed much past 4-5pm so don't know if the same setups were in play until 1am

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 10:56 AM#1305

But the problem wasn't discovered until you asked for a new deck to be put into play? That would suggest that they were using the same deck, day after day after day...

I know you said the Cubans rushed to get their seats... Did they always play the same table?

PerthmikeRegular40 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 11:04 AM#1306

What kinda of a cardroom doesn't switch out the deck regularly. That is just asking for trouble. A lot of casinos use a new deck for every new table don't they?

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 11:05 AM#1307

He said every day they bought in low for a the first few hours - makes me think that casino has a hundred marked decks

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 12:34 PM#1308

But the problem wasn't discovered until you asked for a new deck to be put into play? That would suggest that they were using the same deck, day after day after day...

I know you said the Cubans rushed to get their seats... Did they always play the same table?

I didn't ask for a new deck. The manager said he would put a fresh deck in and monitor it throughout the day

Two weeks later the Cubans are banned

They always arrived at the 10am open and rushed inside to guarantee they got seats 1 and 6 at the first table, EVERY time

treverNewbie2 posts
MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 1:58 PM#1310
  • Ignore this post and just assume I'm an idiot :D -
treverNewbie2 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 2:02 PM#1311

Is that a book about cheating at poker? In a large font? To what appears to be an Amazon affiliate link?

Classy :rolleyes:

I play online, as you could clearly read above, and the few home games I play are casual, fun games with friends. Cheating isn't part of anything I even remotely want to do.

It is a link to Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/?tag=amznpcfx-20), but I am not an affiliate. Don't know about the font, that is just how it posted.

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 2:02 PM#1312

It is a link to Amazon, but I am not a affiliate. Don't know about the font, that is just how it posted.

Revised my post, apologies :D

(maybe naming my thread after this one was a mistake after all :P )

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 2:30 PM#1313

This book is funny, but useless. And I expect nobody here is looking into how to cheat so they can scam their friends in the local weekly game.

Penn Gillette is a comedian and magician and this book is more entertainment with a hint of sarcasm.

Realize however, the we all assume the casino is taking care of the "cheating" problem for us and mostly discard that it can happen. Its a logical assumption since it is in the casinos best interest to host clean games or they lose business. Card rooms win plenty on the rake and there is no need to allow funny business. However, it does happen as Anthony's case shows. And there are even a few recent cases around the country that show how hard it is for us, the players, to resolve it since the casinos are mostly legally protected from being sued for gambling losses as long as they are not the source of the fix.

The home game is a different animal and I think the best protection is that most games are friends. However, if I hosted a more open game with random show ups, I would worry about it because sadly there are many people out there who would take advantage if they could. If you get into the topic, I recommend the book "Casino Game Protection" by Steve Forte.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 3:22 PM#1314

The nice thing about hosting a game with anti-cheating measures in place, is that when you sit in another game where those standard measures aren't in place, you notice the lack of security. When you notice the lack of security, it is far easier to become more vigilant for yourself.

Of course some security is hard to notice, like checking to see if the deck is nicked. After my games, I wipe the cards clean in case there is a mark (however random) and run my fingers over the edges. For a couple years, I would find nicked edges. One player had slipped to the do not invite (banned) list, and we haven't had a nicked card since.

Now, I don't believe that the player was cheating. He did an overhand shuffle which would increase the chance of card-edge damage, and it was common for him to slam-discard his hands in disgust. I kept track of which cards were being marked, and there did not appear to be rhyme or reason. Still he was a winning player, and threads like this make me go...

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 4:37 PM#1315

They always arrived at the 10am open and rushed inside to guarantee they got seats 1 and 6 at the first table, EVERY time

Not that it matters now, but the manager could've pulled a switcheroo on the Cubans. Let them sit at whatever table they want and have the main game start at a different table and fill in those 2 seats with other people. You see them leave or cause a fuss? In Among Us speak, "That's sus."

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 7:18 PM#1316

Not that it matters now, but the manager could've pulled a switcheroo on the Cubans. Let them sit at whatever table they want and have the main game start at a different table and fill in those 2 seats with other people. You see them leave or cause a fuss? In Among Us speak, "That's sus."

The problem is, once they know they're being monitored, they would likely cease marking to avoid detection. So he had to keep the game running as normal to put them at ease and rope them into slipping up

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 10, 2020, 7:23 PM#1317

Yep. Gotta be sharp to catch us those cubans.

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Nov 13, 2020, 4:29 PM#1318

Lack of updates... maybe the Cubans were actually Haitians and they performed voodoo on Anthony's back...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 13, 2020, 4:34 PM#1319

Lack of updates... maybe the Cubans were actually Haitians and they performed voodoo on Anthony's back...

My sciatic pain made it difficult for me to sit or lie down so I had taken a break to go to the gym more

It's not completely gone but has improved significantly. Will be back at it tonight :)

GoldfishRegular71 posts
Posted Nov 13, 2020, 4:51 PM#1320

The nice thing about hosting a game with anti-cheating measures in place, is that when you sit in another game where those standard measures aren't in place, you notice the lack of security. When you notice the lack of security, it is far easier to become more vigilant for yourself.

Of course some security is hard to notice, like checking to see if the deck is nicked. After my games, I wipe the cards clean in case there is a mark (however random) and run my fingers over the edges. For a couple years, I would find nicked edges. One player had slipped to the do not invite (banned) list, and we haven't had a nicked card since.

Now, I don't believe that the player was cheating. He did an overhand shuffle which would increase the chance of card-edge damage, and it was common for him to slam-discard his hands in disgust. I kept track of which cards were being marked, and there did not appear to be rhyme or reason. Still he was a winning player, and threads like this make me go...

View attachment 571325 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/571325/)

At my game I use a fresh set up for every game- Opened by the dealer at the beginning of the game. I use custom chips and the bag system so I can easily account for every chip at the end of the night. Any rebuys for an additional bags are done with hi denomination chips only so I easily know how many rebuys are out there and can quickly know if any hi denomination chips are missing. Nobody touches the chip inventory except for me (which is kept in the closet).

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 13, 2020, 4:58 PM#1321

At my game I use a fresh set up for every game- Opened by the dealer at the beginning of the game. I use custom chips and the bag system so I can easily account for every chip at the end of the night. Any rebuys for an additional bags are done with hi denomination chips only so I easily know how many rebuys are out there and can quickly know if any hi denomination chips are missing. Nobody touches the chip inventory except for me (which is kept in the closet).

I also rotate deck brands. This is because I have a number of different setups and like to use them all, but it does serve a secondary function of security. If you want to swap out an unmarked card for a pre-marked card, you better bring extras.

Jonesey07Regular39 posts
Posted Nov 13, 2020, 5:20 PM#1322

I also rotate deck brands. This is because I have a number of different setups and like to use them all, but it does serve a secondary function of security. If you want to swap out an unmarked card for a pre-marked card, you better bring extras.

Noted.

Haha

MathijsVSMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Nov 13, 2020, 5:30 PM#1323

I also rotate deck brands. This is because I have a number of different setups and like to use them all, but it does serve a secondary function of security. If you want to swap out an unmarked card for a pre-marked card, you better bring extras.

Be honest. This is just an excuse to buy different fancy decks :p

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 13, 2020, 7:58 PM#1324

Cleaning up some files today. I remember back when this guy could only muster out a 2nd place finish, and probably wouldn't have dreamed of going pro.

Now all I want is to have a print made, have the pro sign it, and hang it on my poker wall. I mean, if there is ever a second poker boom, this photo would be akin to a signed photo of a young Doyle Brunson in a home game, before he went pro.

:D

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Nov 13, 2020, 9:55 PM#1325

Now all I want is to have a print made, have the pro sign it, and hang it on my poker wall. I mean, if there is ever a second poker boom, this photo would be akin to a signed photo of a young Doyle Brunson in a home game, before he went pro.

Let's hope he's not more like a Stu Ungar, with this high-flyin' lifestyle (Firebird decals, flourescent PCs, and all...)

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 14, 2020, 12:46 AM#1326

Let's hope he's not more like a Stu Ungar, with this high-flyin' lifestyle (Firebird decals, flourescent PCs, and all...)

I initially used Stu Unger as the comparison, but Stewie's life was soooo tragic. Anthony is far too wise to travel the same path. Just going to the gym as opposed to seeking pharmaceutical relief is an optimal display of making the wiser choice.

monkeydogMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Nov 14, 2020, 2:05 AM#1327

I initially used Stu Unger as the comparison, but Stewie's life was soooo tragic. Anthony is far too wise to travel the same path. Just going to the gym as opposed to seeking pharmaceutical relief is an optimal display of making the wiser choice.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 14, 2020, 5:22 AM#1328

:ad::as::qd::jd: First $500 down. Limp repotted and get it in vs KKT8

Flop AT4......Q....J lol

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Nov 14, 2020, 5:27 AM#1329

Double suited Kings?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 14, 2020, 5:29 AM#1330

Double suited Kings?

Single suited. Rainbow flop

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 14, 2020, 1:21 PM#1331

:ad::as::qd::jd: First $500 down. Limp repotted and get it in vs KKT8

Flop AT4......Q....J lol

Jesus.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 14, 2020, 1:31 PM#1332

Last night was more like the beginning of this clip, not so much the end, welcome to the chesterfield south. Lots of familiar faces, not so much the tourists

There were SIX PLO tables running last night, pairs of 1/2, 2/5 with rock and 5/10 with rock

ALL of them with not so inviting lineups

My table change at 1/2 netted me a few fish up for grabs, managed to bust one, beat another and get beat by one (Had AAKK ds, all red, flop A28 all spades, couldn't get the board to pair and he bet his 85 flush until the river which he checked back

In the end took a -$900 on the session

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 7:08 AM#1333

Time to do work. First hand I pickup :as::ts::2s::2c: in the BB

Bunch of limpers, SB raises to 5, I call, everyone calls

I announce "duece duec duece dealer, punish him!" And the flop is :2h::9d::9s:

He checks to me, I announce "YES, WE GOT HIM!" (btw, I call for duece duece duece A LOT in this game, not just cause I have it)

I bet pot of $30

UTG+1 calls, then the button who is sitting on 2k (max buyin is 500) raises to $160

I opt to get out of the way and thank goodness. He has xx92 and other guy has 97xx and turns a 7 and they get it in

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 9:25 AM#1334

Gross, dude two to my left got nails looking like Nosferatu and shit

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 10:56 AM#1335

Table has some fish but no big wins for me yet. Two chopped pots

AQT4 suited on button against BB who also holds AQT4 suited and raised pre and has been pretty active in making preflop pot juicing raises

Flop AQ5 with 2 not of either of our suit, he check-calls my flop bet, then on the 3 turn (bringing a 2nd flush draw neither of us have) he checkraises all-in and we river the A and chop

Then had JT86 on the button in a raised pot and see a 469 flop

Turn brings a 7 and a flush draw, and we pot it and get two callers including the original raiser (other caller all-in for less)

River pairs the 4, we check-call and original raiser has QJT8 and had the flush draw so we dodged that bullet

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 12:57 PM#1336

Limp-call a raise from MP with :ks::kc::qs::jh:

Raiser is solid TAG on button. 5 ways to flop

:qd::7s::2c:

Checked to him, he bets 35, we call

Turn :4s:

We check-call a 95 bet

River :6h:

We check, he checks back and has AQQ7

I put him on AAxx if we were beat, didn't expect to run into the case Queens

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 1:54 PM#1337

When I do the maths, an opponent hitting/holding the case card is more likely than you might think.

4:42 or 4:43, basically a 1:10 chance. I'm happy to be taught otherwise, because I don't do arithmetic and I'm lousy at Omaha, but on the surface that is what I get.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 2:30 PM#1338

When I do the maths, an opponent hitting/holding the case card is more likely than you might think.

4:42 or 4:43, basically a 1:10 chance. I'm happy to be taught otherwise, because I don't do arithmetic and I'm lousy at Omaha, but on the surface that is what I get.

9% chance.

1-(43/44 x 42/43 x 41/42 x 40/41 x 39/40)

=1 - (39/44)

=1 - .89

=.11

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 2:44 PM#1339

When I do the maths, an opponent hitting/holding the case card is more likely than you might think.

4:42 or 4:43, basically a 1:10 chance. I'm happy to be taught otherwise, because I don't do arithmetic and I'm lousy at Omaha, but on the surface that is what I get.

The thing is, given how solid he had played, I didn't expect him to be raising Queens preflop

Anyway, just got home, -$100 on the session. Up a little and down a little throughout

Had AA77 on a K74 flush draw flop and guy without the flush draw chased his straight, whiffed turn but called it off and binked river to double through me

Later in the session 5-handed I straddle button to $5 for my first time all session. Only SB calls, I pot with :as::ac::ks::7s:

Flop :qd::8c::6d:

He checks, I check behind.

Turn :ah:

He checks, I pot, he calls.

River :7c:

He pots into me for $165

I call, he has :tc::9c::8s::5h: for the double gutter that got there

I double through him shortly after with AK84 in the SB, he raises from BB cause he just can't help himself, one limp caller and I call

Flop A42 and I pot it, he calls, I put the rest in as the turn peels another 4. He calls, river is an Ace and we double

But shortly after that my sciatic pain was flaring pretty bad. Wanted to keep playing but had to pack it in

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 2:44 PM#1340

=1 - (39/44)

= 44/44 - 39/44

= 5/44

= 0.1136363636363636363636363636363636... (one of those cool infinitely-repeating decimals)

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 2:53 PM#1341

I call, he has :tc::9c::8s::5h: for the double gutter that got there

When he pots river, do you snap him off, or do you consider that you're likely beat? If the latter, how close were you to laying it down, and why didn't you? Because it can be exploitable? Because the bet was small compared to what's in the pot?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 3:14 PM#1342

When he pots river, do you snap him off, or do you consider that you're likely beat? If the latter, how close were you to laying it down, and why didn't you? Because it can be exploitable? Because the bet was small compared to what's in the pot?

I didn't snap. But I figured given the way he had been playing he might be betting two pair or a set there.

T9 was certainly possible too, I just felt this guy had enough bluffs in his range and opted to call

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 3:48 PM#1343

9% chance.

1-(43/44 x 42/43 x 41/42 x 40/41 x 39/40)

=1 - (39/44)

=1 - .89

=.11

= 44/44 - 39/44

= 5/44

= 0.1136363636363636363636363636363636... (one of those cool infinitely-repeating decimals)

This is why I hate maths. You both used some "fancy" probability calculations, and came up with a 1-point difference from my calculation. It makes mine wrong, but by so little it wouldn't matter in the calculation of one hand.

I get it of course. You guys can land a rocket on the moon, and I'd say "Let's launch a second rocket - one of them will get there."

Note: I never even took algebra. So any time I get a calculation close, I consider it a win.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 3:50 PM#1344

Wait.

Later in the session 5-handed I straddle button to $5 for my first time all session. Only SB calls, I pot with :as::ac::ks::7s:

Assuming this is $1/$2, SB posts $1, BB posts $2 and you post $5. Does action start UTG or with SB (left of straddle). You said, 'only SB calls' so I assume action to your left. So when it gets back to you, the pot is $12.

So your pot is $12 and SB calls? So Pot is $36?

Flop :qd::8c::6d:

He checks, I check behind.

So pot is $36.

Turn :ah:

He checks, I pot, he calls.

So pot is $108.

River :7c:

He pots into me for $165

Um...

Also, usually in a NL game, the dealer will pull the rake as soon as their is sufficient money in the pot. Because the betting is NL, it doesn't matter. Am I right to assume that in a PL game, the dealer doesn't take out the rake until the end, so as not to diminish the potential pot bet?

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 3:51 PM#1345

This is why I hate maths. You both used some "fancy" probability calculations, and came up with a 1-point difference from my calculation. It makes mine wrong, but by so little it wouldn't matter in the calculation of one hand.

But sometimes, bad math gets you close for the wrong reasons... Be careful.

And FWIW, @pltrgyst (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/21/) is closer, because he stuck with fractions(and thus avoided rounding) longer.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 4:15 PM#1346

But sometimes, bad math gets you close for the wrong reasons... Be careful.

And FWIW, @pltrgyst (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/21/) is closer, because he stuck with fractions(and thus avoided rounding) longer.

My bad math is rarely 100% accurate, but it has seldom been way off. Mrs Zombie refers to this as "Mike Math". I was just explaining earlier how subtracting anything by 5 was just "number shapes". It used to infuriate her. Now she's used to it, and can use it in any argument - "You're right, but I'm more right."

So, yeah... "be careful" is more accurate than you know.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 7:12 PM#1347

Wait.

Assuming this is $1/$2, SB posts $1, BB posts $2 and you post $5. Does action start UTG or with SB (left of straddle). You said, 'only SB calls' so I assume action to your left. So when it gets back to you, the pot is $12.

So your pot is $12 and SB calls? So Pot is $36?

So pot is $36.

So pot is $108.

Um...

Also, usually in a NL game, the dealer will pull the rake as soon as their is sufficient money in the pot. Because the betting is NL, it doesn't matter. Am I right to assume that in a PL game, the dealer doesn't take out the rake until the end, so as not to diminish the potential pot bet?

I straddle $5 on button. SB first to act calls $5, BB folds with $2 in. I think there may have been one limp-fold in the field I missed in the post

So when it gets to me it is a raise to $25 as we round to the nearest 5. SB calls, Limper folds

Pot $55 on flop

Turn I bet $55, he calls. Now $165 in pot

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Nov 15, 2020, 9:10 PM#1348

This is why I hate maths. You both used some "fancy" probability calculations, and came up with a 1-point difference from my calculation. It makes mine wrong, but by so little it wouldn't matter in the calculation of one hand.

Not me! Mine was just playing around with fifth-grade fractions. (I actually don't trust decimals - they're like "Fake Math". ) :cool

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Nov 16, 2020, 4:35 AM#1349

New to my vocabulary, particularly in the Deep South: "Fake Math".

Imbeciles legally can't contradict it, once you declared it's "fake". :cool

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Nov 16, 2020, 6:30 AM#1350

New to my vocabulary, particularly in the Deep South: "Fake Math".

Imbeciles legally can't contradict it, once you declared it's "fake". :cool

Be careful - those same imbeciles will still tell you professional wrestling is real. :)

buzzmonkeyMicro-Stakes Grinder24 posts
Posted Nov 16, 2020, 12:00 PM#1351

Be careful - those same imbeciles will still tell you professional wrestling is real. :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 17, 2020, 4:49 PM#1353

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 2:35 AM#1354

Next on the list for 1/2 PLO

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 2:46 AM#1355

They just started a new 2/5 with 10 rock table so got called for that 1st

Somehow with my $500 I am the big stack at the table, everyone else $200-300 lol

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 2:53 AM#1356

$2/$5 for 60BBs?! Hopefully they've just gotten beaten up and had their stacks lightened...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 2:58 AM#1357

$2/$5 for 60BBs?! Hopefully they've just gotten beaten up and had their stacks lightened...

Buyins are 200-2k, but this is the first time I've seen an entire table short buy

I mean, good grief we're paying $14/hr to sit in this game lol

PaybackRegular26 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 3:02 AM#1358

Buyins are 200-2k, but this is the first time I've seen an entire table short buy

I mean, good grief we're paying $14/hr to sit in this game lol

I got called for a PLO game. 4 handed. One guy had $13, another $110, and the last had $180. Buy ins are $200-1k. I'm like nope I'll play holdem tonight.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 3:22 AM#1359

Got my seat in 1/2 so at least I'm not paying $14/hr to sit with short stacks

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 3:56 AM#1360

Top two and a flush blocker holds against overpair and fd, all-in on flop

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 4:31 AM#1361

Top 2 pair holds again

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 4:57 AM#1362

Wheee

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 5:24 AM#1363

I'm gonna say it again... A Rampage-style poker vlog starring @Anthony Marteenie (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) (did I spell that right?) is something I'd watch...

UnicornFlashMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 5:25 AM#1364

I'm gonna say it again... A Rampage-style poker vlog starring @Anthony Marteenie (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) (did I spell that right?) is something I'd watch...

I second this.

WedgeRockShark263 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 5:25 AM#1365

They don't allow cameras, I've been told.

Since when does Anthony play by the rules...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 5:26 AM#1366

I'm gonna say it again... A Rampage-style poker vlog starring @Anthony Marteenie (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/) (did I spell that right?) is something I'd watch...

That sounds like work, I'm allergic to actual work sir! :P

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 5:27 AM#1367

They don't allow cameras, I've been told.

Since when does Anthony play by the rules...

Hire Mike Postle - he can get devices into poker rooms easily (or so I heard)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 22, 2020, 7:01 AM#1368

In for $500, out for $1,300. Mostly attributed to spots where I flopped top two pair and held against players drawing all-in on the flop. Sciatica is still bothering me off and on, but at least it's been bearable lately. Still taking breaks to walk and stretch the ol' legs, plus going to the gym multiple times per week.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 23, 2020, 9:56 AM#1369

Oh, forgot to share this troll video I made. So TGT (where the Cubans cheated) has tournaments where the winner gets a TGT Tumbler, lol.

They have different colored ones, and the kid in this video is a local reg on the tournament scene. Reggie Bautista is another local tourney reg that has been killing it lately, I mention him in the clip, but had fun trolling Jeremy in this one

Edit: this was filmed at Tampa Hard Rock

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10221819357504874&id=1585435538

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 28, 2020, 1:28 AM#1370

Little 1/2 PLO plus my back feeling better than it's been in a long time

Also, they are starting to add some 8 handed games here too

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 28, 2020, 3:29 AM#1371

Flopped quad queens with Jack kicker, but quad queens with Ace kicker was already on the high hand board

TroyManNewbie1 posts
Posted Nov 28, 2020, 3:31 AM#1372

Lover reading about your journey, Anthony!

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Nov 28, 2020, 3:35 AM#1373

Oh, forgot to share this troll video I made. So TGT (where the Cubans cheated) has tournaments where the winner gets a TGT Tumbler, lol.

They have different colored ones, and the kid in this video is a local reg on the tournament scene. Reggie Bautista is another local tourney reg that has been killing it lately, I mention him in the clip, but had fun trolling Jeremy in this one

Edit: this was filmed at Tampa Hard Rock

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10221819357504874&id=1585435538

Dude, I don't see the humor. I took first place out of a field of 32 at Hollywood slots.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 28, 2020, 3:37 AM#1374

Been an up, down, up session

Was up a couple hundred, then down $150 after flopping top set with straight blocker, but he got there, then set over set

Managed to turn it around so far

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 28, 2020, 5:09 AM#1375

Managed to cash out +$395 on the session. A solid day, nothing amazing but I wouldn't complain if I could make $400/day everyday I played. Unfortunately some of the fish busted and didn't rebuy, and were replaced by more competent players. With the dynamics of the table changed and not really wanting to get stuck on a long wait list for other limits I opted to book the win and take it home.

Had $25 in free play from the casino as well, popped it into a Deuces Wild Video Poker machine and managed to keep $17 of it.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 28, 2020, 5:41 AM#1376

Me getting out of my car to hit the casino

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 29, 2020, 2:16 AM#1377

Some 2/5 PLO with rock action

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 29, 2020, 2:28 AM#1378

Flopped middle pair and gutshot broadway draw on a rainbow KJ8 flop with AJT2 from the button 4-ways

They check to me, I bet 30, SB calls

Turn a 3, we both check

River the 9, he checks, I bet 60

He thinks for a long time, eventually tosses in a 100 chip to call

I flip up my hand and he insta-mucks because it looks like I have a straight

He realizes after the cards hit the muck he had the best hand, but accepts his mistake and I win a small pot

Always turn your hand up, or you may fold the winner

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Nov 29, 2020, 2:45 AM#1379

Flopped middle pair and gutshot broadway draw on a rainbow KJ8 flop with AJT2 from the button 4-ways

They check to me, I bet 30, SB calls

Turn a 3, we both check

River the 9, he checks, I bet 60

He thinks for a long time, eventually tosses in a 100 chip to call

I flip up my hand and he insta-mucks because it looks like I have a straight

He realizes after the cards hit the muck he had the best hand, but accepts his mistake and I win a small pot

Always turn your hand up, or you may fold the winner

Maybe he is there to chew bubblegum.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 29, 2020, 3:14 AM#1380

What a shitshow the tampa rock has become

Ask to be put on transfer list, floor guy tells me if I don't have a high hand he can't help me, I have to go to the front

One guy at front overwhelmed working alone, takes them 30 minutes just to clean an open seat, good luck finding a brush to fill the dealers well, etc, c'mon man, get your shit together

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 29, 2020, 5:06 AM#1381

Won a big pot last hand before I left 2/5/10 for 1/2 and running well

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Nov 29, 2020, 7:50 AM#1382

managed +$700 on the day. Had a pot against an over-aggressive player who had just gotten stacked and rebought for $300 where he straddled button, few limpers, I limp CO with :8s::8h::7h::5s:, he raises pot, one caller in HJ, I call CO

Flop is :kc::8d::7s:

Checked to me, I pot it, button repots all-in and I use my "if I show will you fold?" trick on him, he doesn't seem comfortable when he responds so I call and find out he has :ks::kh::5h::3d: and I'm way behind, doh!

Aside from that, the table started to get less and less profitable as the night wore on, the fish busted and left, replaced by tighter players. There was a 5/10 with $25 rock table next to our 1/2 and the lineup was AWFUL. The two 2/5 with $10 rock games I played in weren't great either.

Definitely a really shitty shift in the fields of these games lately. I'm considering returning to TGT to see how the Monday game is, looks like it still gets 4 tables going, and the Cubans are gone now.

Heard Orange City has some great PLO cash games but it's a 2 hour drive one way and I just don't want to add that type of routine into my life.

Fortunately Poker Jeezus has smiled down upon me despite the less than desirable lineups with winning sessions. Heard Derby Lane in St Pete is starting to get some PLO action, but I checked tonight around 10-11pm and they just had five people on an interest list for 1/2 PLO so nothing to get overly excited about.

Outside of poker, my sciatica is come and go, but has been mostly a lot better lately. Trying to stretch more, go for more walks, take more breaks from sitting, etc. My gym has a class that is free which includes Pilates, yoga, etc. so I may check that out to help improve my flexibility and stretching as well.

Been messing around with my new computer and capturing myself playing games so I can keep developing the USAnumberWON character. Next up will be doing some work filming myself playing in costume and making clips for Youtube from that, then eventually growing that into a regular streaming schedule.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 1, 2020, 2:00 AM#1383

Was able to finish Jenns new PC today and she's using it now. Blazing fast going to a 2TB M.2 Corsair Force drive from her 512GB Western Digital M.2, plus the 8-core Ryzen 5800x over her old quad-core i5-7600k, and a bump to the RTX 3070 8GB graphics card from a GTX 1060 6GB

The guy who does some of the custom pieces for the interior of these themed builds is working on hers now so not sharing any pics until it's truly complete, but was great that it all worked without much issue.

Heard from a buddy this past weekend that he's found midweek at the poker room to be better than weekends (said true degens are the guys playing midweek) so with the casino offering me some mystery free play on the machines (up to a grand) that expires tomorrow figure I'll head there in the afternoon and see how it is.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 1, 2020, 7:02 PM#1384

Trying a Tuesday afternoon

buzzmonkeyMicro-Stakes Grinder24 posts
Posted Dec 1, 2020, 7:44 PM#1386

With a table of suckers, it's gotta be good.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 1, 2020, 7:47 PM#1387

With a table of suckers, it's gotta be good.

Table is so-so, a few week spots, a few nits

My mystery free play was the absolute minimum $15. Managed to keep $11.25 of it via dueces wild video poker

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 1, 2020, 8:00 PM#1388

Busted one of the fish, unfortunately he didn't rebuy and didn't have many chips, but moving in the right direction

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 1, 2020, 9:23 PM#1389

Called the session after an hour and a half. Won $200 which is good for the time spent.

But the 1/2 game was meh and the lineup at 2/5/10 was terrible

Still don't get the guys who try and soldier on when lineups are bad. Sitting in a game where the only way to make $$$ is by coolering other good players seems stupid to me.

I'd rather go home and relax and put my effort into other projects

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 7:42 PM#1390

Poker room is busy today. Winter tournament series is running so cash games backed up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 8:05 PM#1391

They started a 2/5 PLO game but lists are still nuts

They only let you signup for two games so I used just my name the first time, then later swung by and used my card

On the lists for

1/2 PLO

2/5 PLO with rock

5/10 PLO with rock

20/40 mixed game (started the list so I could be 1st somewhere lol)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 8:09 PM#1392

Lol, they just called "Stevie Wonder" for 1/2 NL

I can only imagine he plays his blinds better than anyone

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 8:15 PM#1393

20/40 mixed game (started the list so I could be 1st somewhere lol)

USA, USA, USA!

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 8:33 PM#1394

They only let you signup for two games so I used just my name the first time, then later swung by and used my card

Was the name you gave them perhaps "Mike Postle"?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 8:35 PM#1395

Was the name you gave them perhaps "Mike Postle"?

El Gringo Diablo

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 9:44 PM#1396

Got our seat

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 10:45 PM#1397

In for $1500. Was down to $900 after flopping nuts on a flush draw board, bombing flop and turn, and having to fold river when flush hit

Managed to cash out for $1644 after we flopped top 2 pair plus wheel draw, and by the river had 4 pair that held

2/5 lineup is bad, about to meet a kid driving from west palm to sell him a graphics card for 2 grand, plus next on 1/2 list so cashed out

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 4, 2020, 11:16 PM#1398

Successful sale of the card, now at 1/2 PLO

A little better lineup than 2/5 but some folks from best bet jacksonville here

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 12:53 AM#1399

Lol, guy at my table called two all-ins pre with QT54 one suit, then flopped 367

EZ game

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 12:59 AM#1400

Lol, guy at my table called two all-ins pre with QT54 one suit, then flopped 367

EZ game

The cards were due.

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 1:02 AM#1401

Lol, guy at my table called two all-ins pre with QT54 one suit, then flopped 367

EZ game

Are you on an RFID table? Where is his cell phone?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 1:07 AM#1402

Are you on an RFID table? Where is his cell phone?

He doesn't LOOK Cuban, but you can't be too careful these days

Props to floorperson Joe at Tampa Hard Rock who showed up in under a minute of a seat opening up to clean it, and brush Peter who was calling the next person right after

Credit where it's due, great service today!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 1:18 AM#1403

Nice, another fish. Bunch of limpers, guy with K953 and three clubs raises to 10 from the BB, lol

redeagleMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 1:28 AM#1404

He doesn't LOOK Cuban, but you can't be too careful these days

Damn Cubans!! They can sneak in almost everywhere. Some of us them might even be on this forum just waiting to find you in a game some day. :nailbite:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 1:34 AM#1405

Damn Cubans!! They can sneak in almost everywhere. Some of us them might even be on this forum just waiting to find you in a game some day. :nailbite:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 1:41 AM#1406

In for $500 and chipping up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 2:14 AM#1407

I like it stacked like this better, total alpha move

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 2:25 AM#1408

LET'S FACKING GO BRO!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 2:52 AM#1409

Ooch, put $280 in preflop with T987 ds against two shorter stacks (AAxx and KKxx) plus two other stacks

Table chip leader called with 4567

Flop 234 and he sends two guys packing

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 4:32 AM#1411

Mr calls multiple all-ins with QT54 one suit is destroying the game. Max buyin is $500 and he is sitting on over $3,100 right now

He has more chips than the rest of the table combined

I've just been folding for awhile, waiting for one of the key hands of the session to present itself

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 4:51 AM#1412

Mr calls multiple all-ins with QT54 one suit is destroying the game. Max buyin is $500 and he is sitting on over $3,100 right now

He has more chips than the rest of the table combined

I've just been folding for awhile, waiting for one of the key hands of the session to present itself

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 5:33 AM#1413

Flopped top set Jacks on a J53 two spade flop in a raised pot

I pot from BB for $100, only HJ and SB call

Turn 7 spades, sb and I check, HJ bets $350 and we both fold

Been folding mostly (or whiffing flops or draws) for hours now

Game is REALLY good, I just haven't been able to capitalize on it yet, but 4 players are super fish, so staying patient

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 6:41 AM#1414

Called raise with double suited rundown

Flopped two pair, gutshot and flush draw. Shove, one player all-in for less, one with better fd and overpair eventually calls and covers

We fade the outs and scoop

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 5, 2020, 7:45 PM#1415

The fishiest of fish had around 4 grand when I finally left at 2am. Was zonked, had played over 9 hours plus been there longer because when I arrived the lists were crazy because of the tournament series.

Had a good session, not as profitable for me as it was for the fish, but that's ok, he's a regular and will continue to play dumb over the long-haul.

He called two all-ins pre for around $300 in one hand with 4567 holding three hearts and was up against AAxx and KKxx and he just binks the magical 234 two heart flop (and neither of his opponents had bigger heart draws so were almost drawing dead). Ace on the turn gave one of his opponents a chance but river bricked and he stacked them both

Was pretty rough to sit for multiple dealer changes and have to fold fold fold, or call-whiff or hit then get outdrawn and have to fold, not really winning any pots and watching my stack dwindle slowly down while the mouth-breathers are just scooping monster pots. But I figured even if I had a losing session, at least the game was fucking amazing compared to how they've been.

Now I just need to hope that shift continues, because the games have been truly awful for a few months now.

Also planning to return to Luckys on Monday and see how it is, they've been getting 4 games regularly and I still have three cats (and a Jenn) to feed.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 4:54 AM#1416

Back at it

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 5:02 AM#1417

Lol, flop two pair, pot flop and turn, guy chases a gutshot to the river and binks it

Gotta keep the fish fishy

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 6:06 AM#1418

Guy with mirrored shades just showed up, this should be good lol

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 6:09 AM#1419

Guy with mirrored shades just showed up, this should be good lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 6:23 AM#1420

Dude wearing a bedazzled mask, shirt and jeans just sat down, what the actual fuck is going on here???

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 6:28 AM#1421

Dude wearing a bedazzled mask, shirt and jeans just sat down, what the actual fuck is going on here???

Oh, Florida.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 6:29 AM#1422

Oh, Florida.

It's like Walmart after 730pm up in here

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 8:05 AM#1424

Got it in pre with :kc::ks::jc::4s: against two shorter stacks

One has K885, the other AA76

I flop KJ7....4J

To do him super dirty (in b4 out of context thread)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 8:59 AM#1425

New table first hand dealt :ah::as::qc::th: in BB

Button straddled to $5 and UTG+1 has blind-raised to 20

SB calls 5

I call 5

UTG folds

UTG+1 has his blind raise to 20

Button calls 20

SB calls 20

Hero pots to 100

They ALL call

Flop :kh::9d::2c:

We shove all-in

The blind raiser thinks for awhile and calls

Turn :5d:

River :9h:

He doesn't show, our aces up is good

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 10:39 AM#1426

In for $500, out for $1,408

Games definitely had their share of fish, and my run-good didn't hurt either.

PerthmikeRegular40 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 10:52 AM#1427

New table first hand dealt :ah::as::qc::th: in BB

Button straddled to $5 and UTG+1 has blind-raised to 20

SB calls 5

I call 5

UTG folds

UTG+1 has his blind raise to 20

Button calls 20

SB calls 20

Hero pots to 100

They ALL call

Flop :kh::9d::2c:

We shove all-in

The blind raiser thinks for awhile and calls

Turn :5d:

River :9h:

He doesn't show, our aces up is good

View attachment 587489 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/587489/)

That seems an optimistic shove into 3 players surely

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 10:56 AM#1428

That seems an optimistic shove into 3 players surely

We've created an SPR of more than 1:1 at this point

We hold a number of key cards that block the straight draws, and we have that draw ourself if the Jack falls

The board otherwise is uncoordinated. If someone has KKxx, 99xx or K9xx, gg nh, it happens.

Otherwise this is a pretty good flop for our hand overall.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 5:13 PM#1429

That seems an optimistic shove into 3 players surely

To give some more perspective, an inside wrap on this flop is still an underdog to us

While someone who flopped two pair does have the edge, we have enough equity given pot and stack sizes for it to be still ok to put the rest of our stack in

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 5:49 PM#1430

New table first hand dealt :ah::as::qc::th: in BB

Button straddled to $5 and UTG+1 has blind-raised to 20

SB calls 5

I call 5

UTG folds

UTG+1 has his blind raise to 20

Button calls 20

SB calls 20

Hero pots to 100

They ALL call

Flop :kh::9d::2c:

We shove all-in

The blind raiser thinks for awhile and calls

Turn :5d:

River :9h:

He doesn't show, our aces up is good

View attachment 587489 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/587489/)

Must be nice! I NEVER get that lucky. The other night playing, every time the board paired, somebody had a full house. I must have got beat half a dozen times with nut flush or nut straight. And did I ever hit the boat? NOOOOOO... Much less win a hand with two pair.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 6:43 PM#1431

Must be nice! I NEVER get that lucky. The other night playing, every time the board paired, somebody had a full house. I must have got beat half a dozen times with nut flush or nut straight. And did I ever hit the boat? NOOOOOO... Much less win a hand with two pair.

In my defense, the previous night I had a guy chase a gutshot draw facing pot sized flop and turn bets to crack my top pair, flopped top set on a two spade board and had to fold turn when flush came in, flopped the nuts and had a guy chase to the river to make his flush, etc

It's not all sunshine and rainbows, there was a 4 hour period friday night where all I did was bleed chips

You begin to question if Poker Jeezus is even real!

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 7:43 PM#1432

In my defense, the previous night I had a guy chase a gutshot draw facing pot sized flop and turn bets to crack my top pair, flopped top set on a two spade board and had to fold turn when flush came in, flopped the nuts and had a guy chase to the river to make his flush, etc

It's not all sunshine and rainbows, there was a 4 hour period friday night where all I did was bleed chips

You begin to question if Poker Jeezus is even real!

I hear ya. It's easy for me to forget the previous good games after a bad one. It just gets frustrating when you know you're making the right decisions and playing hands with odds in your favor, but still lose.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 6, 2020, 7:47 PM#1433

I hear ya. It's easy for me to forget the previous good games after a bad one. It just gets frustrating when you know you're making the right decisions and playing hands with odds in your favor, but still lose.

I kinda had to get used to it after having top two pair and the nfd on the turn against a fish with K944 who had the 2nd nfd and thus only ONE out in the entire deck (pre-covid) the 4 of spades, because the 4 of clubs gives us both the flush. We get it in on the turn, again, he's stacking off with JUST the flush draw which isn't even good, and he binks the one-outer plus I was only running it once then (and I think he only goes once as well so wouldn't have mattered if I wanted to run it twice)

When you've lost thousands of dollars as a 97.5% favorite you start to realize what you signed up for, lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 12:18 AM#1434

It has begun!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 12:50 AM#1435

Little sumthin' sumthin'

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 1:30 AM#1436

Well slap my ass and call me Willie, I reckon you ain't from 'round these parts stranger!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 2:01 AM#1438

A bandit!

He don't look Cuban

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 2:21 AM#1439

He don't look Cuban

Still ...... Watch for a phone on his lap

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 2:40 AM#1440

Letting the fish who potted pre with :jh::th::5h::2h: hang himself on the river, he just can't help himself

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 2:42 AM#1441

Letting the fish who potted pre with :jh::th::5h::2h: hang himself on the river, he just can't help himself

View attachment 592068 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/592068/)

He’s got 4 to a flush! :rolleyes:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 2:42 AM#1442

He’s got 4 to a flush! :rolleyes:

He potted Jacks and Dueces on the river lol

Musky48Newbie1 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 3:04 AM#1443

Keep up the good work. Wish I could have the patience and drive to do what you are doing

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 3:24 AM#1444

Fish from last week who was up over 4k still sun-running

Calls flop pot bet, binks 10 turn and milks me for 50, rivers the Jack and milks me for 50 more lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 12, 2020, 6:17 AM#1445

Despite his sun run I'm managing well

After posting this made right laydown wrong time

I have :ad::qh::jd::7h:

Flop :ah::9d::4s:

Over-aggressive player who raised pre bets 100, myself and mr sun run call

Turn :js:

I check, sun run checks, villain pots for $485 or something like that

I think for awhile, but make the fold, just feel he is not bluffing, maybe set of 9's

Sun run calls. River another Jack and I mutter "motherfucker" to myself

Villain has A944 and sun run doesnt show

So would've sucked out and won a big pot, but made the correct decision which made me feel good

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 6:28 AM#1446

Back at it in the early a.m.

The 200k grtd $1,700 buyin tourney broke $1.2 million prize pool, yowza

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 6:45 AM#1447

Lol, already doubled up, dealt :ah::as::jd::2c: on the button

MP raises to 15, hj and co call, we pot to 85, they ALL call

Flop :ac::kd::5s:

MP checks, HJ shoves, CO folds, we reshove. He has A5xx

Whines about a 1-outer and says "you're the best sir" to me, in his snarkiest hold em tournament monkey voice, lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 6:50 AM#1448

In the SB with :ac::7c::6c::2s:

Call a $5 button straddle, BB calls, HJ and CO call, 5 handed to flop

:ks::7s::2c:

Checked around

Turn :4c:

We bet pot, BB repots for half his stack, folded to us, we repot

He has :9c::4h::4d::3c: lol and holds

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 7:13 AM#1449

Lol, Asian kid raises pre to $7 (hate these raises, just make it an even # for the dealer)

Doofus on my right reraises to 15, couple callers, asian kid repots to $85, two callers

Flop :th::ts::4h:

Asian shoves, doofus calls

Asian :ac::kc::8s::3s:

Doofus: :qd::qh::9s::8c:

Asian rivers the Ace to double. This is going to be a good game

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 7:25 AM#1450

They keep trying to bluff me, can't help themselves

I have :ah::as::qs::2d: in the SB and call button straddle, UTG makes it 15 with $600 behind

Button shoves for $35

We just call, UTG calls

Flop :ac::ts::8h:

We pot it, UTG calls

Turn :kh:

We check, UTG bets $150, we call

River :2c:

We check, he bets $275

We think for awhile, but eventually make the call qnd hear the sweet sweet "good call" and scoop it

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 7:35 AM#1451

First table broke, now at the other 1/2 PLO and it's 8-max and we are full

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 8:59 AM#1452

We call a preflop raise on button with :kc::qc::jh::jd:

SB who recently rebought pops it to $40 with about $60 behind. One caller who is sitting on around $400

We repot to isolate, other caller folds. Figure we have the best hand against this guy, he's been overly active and likely steaming from just getting stacked, plus some dead $$$ in the pot

He shows up with :as::ad::qd::ts: however and we don't improve, whomp whomp

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 9:08 AM#1453

In for $500 and out for $1,275 so another good session!

ThomacettiRegular31 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 9:16 AM#1454

Good game Anthony...enjoy the lazy Sunday :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 3:23 PM#1455

Despite:

  1. Quitting my job to play PLO (and having no prior experience or track record in the game)

  2. The shit-show that is 2020 closing poker rooms for months and a changing game once they re-opened (less players per table, more grinders flooding Tampa)

  3. Having a pair of cheaters working together in one of the games (until I noticed something off and brought attention to it)

  4. Experiencing sciatic pain that reduced my ability to play over a month-long period of time (fortunately I have this under control now)

I have managed to survive. We're now a year and 3 months into this journey and that graph just keeps climbing.

I may not be winning championship bracelets, but the mortgage gets paid, the fridge is full and the lights are on.

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 4:21 PM#1456

I may not be winning championship bracelets, but the mortgage gets paid, the fridge is full and the lights are on.

“You keep grinding out that rent money, Joe. It's noble work you're doing.”

Seriously, Anthony...congrats on a successful year. I know it hasn’t been easy and you have earned every dollar.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 4:52 PM#1457

“You keep grinding out that rent money, Joe. It's noble work you're doing.”

Seriously, Anthony...congrats on a successful year. I know it hasn’t been easy and you have earned every dollar.

View attachment 593067 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/593067/)

Except that hand where I had KKJ4 ds vs K885 vs AA76 and binked the case K on the flop, that was pretty bullshit, but I'll take it!

ThomacettiRegular31 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 10:11 PM#1458

Congrats Anthony...2021 will even be better (@Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/))

AND

I found your perfect card capper last week...please pm your addy (on the house)

Happy holidays & stay safe

And....

USA USA USA :D

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 10:30 PM#1459

Congrats Anthony...2021 will even be better (@Anthony Martino (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/1159/))

AND

...

And....

USA USA USA :D

Don't encourage him!

But it has been fun -- without the risk -- following your evolution, Anthony. And if you keep it up for another six months or so, I might let you have your wheel and tire back. You never know.

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 10:34 PM#1462

@pltrgyst (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/21/) Larry did I say something wrong ?

Not at all -- just kidding about encouraging Anthony's blatant (if good-humored) jingoism.

ThomacettiRegular31 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 10:36 PM#1463

Not at all -- just kidding about encouraging Anthony's blatant (if good-humored) jingoism.

You almost had me...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 11:09 PM#1464

And if you keep it up for another six months or so, I might let you have your wheel and tire back. You never know.

buzzmonkeyMicro-Stakes Grinder24 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 11:11 PM#1465

Despite:

  1. Quitting my job to play PLO (and having no prior experience or track record in the game)

  2. The shit-show that is 2020 closing poker rooms for months and a changing game once they re-opened (less players per table, more grinders flooding Tampa)

  3. Having a pair of cheaters working together in one of the games (until I noticed something off and brought attention to it)

  4. Experiencing sciatic pain that reduced my ability to play over a month-long period of time (fortunately I have this under control now)

I have managed to survive. We're now a year and 3 months into this journey and that graph just keeps climbing.

I may not be winning championship bracelets, but the mortgage gets paid, the fridge is full and the lights are on.

View attachment 593027 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/593027/)

If you don't mind me asking, have you been able to add to your roll or have all profits gone towards living expense?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 11:16 PM#1466

If you don't mind me asking, have you been able to add to your roll or have all profits going towards living expense?

My roll has grown and I've paid down some expenses as well

Highli99Regular96 posts
Posted Dec 13, 2020, 11:19 PM#1467

Glad for your success Anthony. The past year I’ve discovered the joy of PLO and enjoy your hand histories. Hope that 2021 is more of a traditional grind and less of a shit show. Keep smashing flops, binking turns, and if all else fails, spiking rivers.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 14, 2020, 5:13 PM#1468

My return to Luckys, full game, I'm next on the list

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 14, 2020, 5:55 PM#1469

Wheee!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 14, 2020, 6:59 PM#1470

Double wheee!

Josh KiferRegular53 posts
Posted Dec 14, 2020, 7:05 PM#1473

Can you see over that stack? Or did they put you in a booster seat? :p

He's sitting on three phone books....

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 14, 2020, 7:06 PM#1474

So ....... No Cubans?

Cubans banned awhile ago

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 14, 2020, 7:09 PM#1475

Can you see over that stack? Or did they put you in a booster seat? :p

I look through the steering wheel when I drive too

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 14, 2020, 8:20 PM#1476

Left +$700

After being moved from table 2 to the main game I was dealing with crazies in seat 2 and 6 who were (not cuban) and straddling and raising a lot preflop. Just two guys willing to gamble it up like nuts and both had deep stacks and weren't afraid to put them in.

With $1,700 in front of me I decided I didn't really want to be giving up my edge by getting involved in these monster pots preflop constantly, and decided to get off the variance train and lock up a solid session.

WindwalkerMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Dec 15, 2020, 7:49 AM#1477

Just spent a couple of hours reading this thread from top to bottom. Loving the journey, man. Following!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 15, 2020, 11:46 AM#1478

Just spent a couple of hours reading this thread from top to bottom. Loving the journey, man. Following!

Damn man, that's some serious addiction dedication, lemmee borrow $800 right quick, you know I'm good for it!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 15, 2020, 11:33 PM#1479

Goldurnit!

Tonight Silks Poker Room had a $7,500 guaranteed PLO tourney and as soon as I arrive I find out they had to close the whole place due to a water main break, whomp whomp. I was going to molly whomp those fools!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 16, 2020, 1:44 PM#1480

Silks is saying they will reschedule the PLO tournament, I still think it'll have an overlay. Don't think their traffic levels will hit the $7,500 guarantee, but we'll see

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Dec 16, 2020, 3:01 PM#1481

Lol, already doubled up, dealt :ah::as::jd::2c: on the button

MP raises to 15, hj and co call, we pot to 85, they ALL call

Flop :ac::kd::5s:

MP checks, HJ shoves, CO folds, we reshove. He has A5xx

Whines about a 1-outer and says "you're the best sir" to me, in his snarkiest hold em tournament monkey voice, lol

View attachment 592853 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/592853/)

Now that you are surrounded by plexiglass, do you literally ever just rap the glass a couple times and respond "Don't tap the glass, sir" ?

PlayerADKMicro-Stakes Grinder14 posts
Posted Dec 16, 2020, 3:37 PM#1482

Now that you are surrounded by plexiglass, do you literally ever just rap the glass a couple times and respond "Don't tap the glass, sir" ?

New poker face power play: the staredown 2.0

jja412Micro-Stakes Grinder20 posts
Posted Dec 17, 2020, 11:42 PM#1484

I'd be more likely to do a pressed fruit bowl.

"I wonder what a pressed fru...."

"OH...."

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 7:47 PM#1485

Back at it

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 7:54 PM#1486

Turned a wrap, got it in, binked it

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 8:05 PM#1487

Limp repotted AKK2 suited, got action

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 9:02 PM#1488

With 2:51 left on the clock lady at our table flopped quad Kings with a 4 kicker, potted flop and locked in her high hand to bump quad Queens off the board (if she turns or rivers a bigger kicker her high hand gets fouled)

Her quads held up and she won $1,000

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 9:17 PM#1489

With 2:51 left on the clock lady at our table flopped quad Kings with a 4 kicker, potted flop and locked in her high hand to bump quad Queens off the board (if she turns or rivers a bigger kicker her high hand gets fouled)

Her quads held up and she won $1,000

wait, omaha qualifies for the high hand bonus? or is it just omaha, how many tables and how often do they pay?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 9:24 PM#1490

wait, omaha qualifies for the high hand bonus? or is it just omaha, how many tables and how often do they pay?

Only 1/2 PLO is eligible

High hands every 30 minutes

We have to flop it in PLO and if the turn or river improves our hand we are fouled

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 9:29 PM#1491

We have :ad::9h::5d::4h: in a multiway raised pot and see a flop of :jc::6d::2d:

We pot, FOUR callers lol

Turn :8s:

Checked to guy on my left who pots, two all-ins for less we repot

River :7c:

We win side pot with 2nd nuts but guy on our right had :kd::qd::tc::9c: and wins the main, so we break even, almost busted 3 guys

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 9:38 PM#1492

We have :ah::kh::kc::qc: on button facing $5 straddle by CO

We call, bunch of callers, flop

:ks::th::6c:

Solid lady who won the 1k high hand (but hasn't been paid yet) bets 20, CO calls, we pot to $115, she calls with $146 behind

Turn :9d:

She does the "shrug, guess I'm all in" move and we know she's got QJ but figure we are getting enough odds to call

River a blank and she has AQJT for the flopped wrap, whomp whomp

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 9:47 PM#1493

They let you play out of a rack?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 9:53 PM#1494

They let you play out of a rack?

No, max at 1/2 PLO is $500 so couldn't put it all in play

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 11:43 PM#1495

:th::9h::9c::7s: in a limped pot, see a flop of

:ac::9s::4c:

Checked to us in CO, we pot for $15

THREE callers

Turn :6c:

Everyone checks to us, we check behind

River :as:

Lady who won that high hand earlier bets $25 and we call

She has :ah::kh::qh::6d:

Lol wtf?

SaoliverRegular51 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 11:45 PM#1496

:th::9h::9c::7s: in a limped pot, see a flop of

:ac::9s::4c:

Checked to us in CO, we pot for $15

THREE callers

Turn :6c:

Everyone checks to us, we check behind

River :as:

Lady who won that high hand earlier bets $25 and we call

She has :ah::kh::qh::6d:

Lol wtf?

She flopped top pair! Duh. :rolleyes:

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Dec 18, 2020, 11:48 PM#1497

:th::9h::9c::7s: in a limped pot, see a flop of

:ac::9s::4c:

Checked to us in CO, we pot for $15

THREE callers

Turn :6c:

Everyone checks to us, we check behind

River :as:

Lady who won that high hand earlier bets $25 and we call

She has :ah::kh::qh::6d:

Lol wtf?

View attachment 597180 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/597180/)

Must be Cuban

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 1:06 AM#1498

We have :qc::tc::8h::8d: on the button on a flop of :qd::5c::4c:

Checked to us, we pot, THREE callers

Turn :6h:

Checked to us, with the 8 blockers and backup flush draw we opt to pot again

New player at table calls half his stack OOP

River :jc:

He shoves, we sigh-call but he has an 8-high flush draw he hit

We bust the fish and unfortunately he leaves

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 1:10 AM#1499

We were up to $1,100 then bled for HOURS, almost back to the $500 we started with, but have rebuilt including winning a nice 4 way all-in

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 2:36 AM#1500

Fish two to my left won a decent sized multi-way all-in and he's stacked up, plus the guy on my immediate left is also LAG. Given my stack size and the craziness from these two (plus was getting tired) I opted to cash out +$800 on the session.

So far only had one losing session all month, been in the green all other sessions. It's good to be a Jew on Christmas!

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 2:43 AM#1501

Anthony, how sucky is it to get 3 of a kind in your hole cards? Last night playing PL-5, I got 3 Ks. Seems almost no upside to the hand, so when the blinds were raised, I just folded. Is that the right move?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 2:51 AM#1502

Anthony, how sucky is it to get 3 of a kind in your hole cards? Last night playing PL-5, I got 3 Ks. Seems almost no upside to the hand, so when the blinds were raised, I just folded. Is that the right move?

It generally sucks, but depending on position, the side card and the table makeup you may be able to play some hands with trips because you will have blockers and can run a bluff, or the side card works well for you to make nutted hands

But generally speaking its ok to fold too and stay out of trouble

But I may play a hand like AKKK suited or KKKQ suited, TTT9 JTTT or JJJT style holdings in rare instances

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 2:54 AM#1503

Thanks! I've only been playing Omaha for a couple of months, but I really enjoy the differences between it and NLHE.

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 3:02 AM#1504

I won a sizeable pot in our home game a couple of years ago with K,K,K,x. Hit the case king on the flop that turned into a boat over boat. Bet $50 on the river and got a call.

Nothing says "I am a tight player" like calling a small raise pre-flop with three of a kind in Omaha.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 3:24 AM#1505

I won a sizeable pot in our home game a couple of years ago with K,K,K,x. Hit the case king on the flop that turned into a boat over boat. Bet $50 on the river and got a call.

Nothing says "I am a tight player" like calling a small raise pre-flop with three of a kind in Omaha.

I'm generally pretty nitty, but opted for the pot bet on the Q546 board because we had the 88 blockers, into multiple opponents

TX_Golf_N_PokerRegular48 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 7:18 AM#1506

I won a sizeable pot in our home game a couple of years ago with K,K,K,x. Hit the case king on the flop that turned into a boat over boat. Bet $50 on the river and got a call.

Nothing says "I am a tight player" like calling a small raise pre-flop with three of a kind in Omaha.

Yup, when everything falls right, it's really nice. In my case it was PLO-5, so I just couldn't see that many avenues to the nuts. Wanted to get a confirmation that I wasn't missing something. My other two cards were 3-5 or something like that, and only one of the Ks was suited.

stavmanNewbie1 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 3:59 PM#1507

I enjoyed all the shit taking you get on Kash poker. So many haters.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 4:05 PM#1508

I enjoyed all the shit taking you get on Kash poker. So many haters.

Some people are just jealous, some just miserable. Maybe they're suffering in their attempts at poker so their outlet is to shit on someone else who is succeeding.

You deal with the miserable types at the tables too, but they won't extinguish my sunshine. Last night working 7 hours I made almost as much as I would working a full week for "the man" so I'm happy I can enjoy life off the felt and not slave my life away making someone else rich.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 19, 2020, 8:13 PM#1509

The other day had a guy in my local area reach out to me on Facebook. He's an attorney but is tired of his job and sees me playing poker for a living and wants to do the same, but with NL hold em cash games.

His thought process was that if he could bring in $500, play M-F and leave when he hits $800 then he'd make $300/day x 5 days a week and that would allow him to live comfortably.

So I had to explain that:

  1. There's no guarantee you'll hit that $800 every session. You may lose some or all of that $500. Now on the next day you're behind and have to win more than $300 that session to keep up with your overall goal. And if you always leave once you make that $300 profit then you may be slitting your own throat because that day you were supposed to win $1,200 which would make up for the losses on another session in your near future. Hell, I played the month of Feb 2020 and paid to do so, taking a loss of $1,800. So I put in the hours and still came out behind.

  2. You may not want to play full time, I know I certainly don't. I play anywhere from 25-40 hrs/week most of the time. I don't enjoy poker as much because it's no longer an escape from my job, it IS my job.

  3. You won't want to play 52 weeks/year, you're going to want time off, take a vacation, etc. So again you have to adjust your income expectations

  4. I don't really play NL Hold Em cash games, and while I'm sure there's still profit to be made, I've also heard and read for awhile now that the Hold Em games are much tougher than they used to be.

I think a big problem with people is that they're trying to run FROM something, rather than run TOWARDS something. I recommended maybe he reduces his work hours and try playing part-time and see how it goes. But to temper his expectations because he may be killing it but his results are from the weekend, and he shouldn't expect the same results on a Tuesday, for instance.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 4:42 AM#1510

Ooch, down 1k so far at 1/2 PLO

Table pretty good, but made aces up twice and same guy had three aces

Guys calling raises with 6443 getting there, etc

Sticking it out

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 5:05 AM#1511

Doubled up, only down $600 now lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 5:24 AM#1512

Only down $450 now

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 5:35 AM#1513

Getting closer to unstuck. Limped AA88 one suit, fish in blinds pots it, I limp repot, he calls OOP for half his chips

Flop 977 he check-calls it off. Turn 8, river 7, I'm good

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 7:29 AM#1514

So a buddy of mine Austin from Oxford Downs showed up drunk

Sits at my table and tells everyone I'm his boy and if anyone has a problem with me he'll fight them and he loves to fight

So then my buddy Dave at the next table over (who's also been drinking) starts jawing at him saying "you serious, you got a problem, you want a piece of me?"

I try to calm them down but they're too drunk to see anything but each other

Floor comes over and tosses them both. Never had two dudes fight over me before, quite the experience lol

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 7:31 AM#1515

Never had two dudes fight over me before, quite the experience lol

Welcome to your first day of being a high priced call girl buddy :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 7:39 AM#1516

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 7:47 AM#1517

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 20, 2020, 10:49 AM#1519

Got myself within $150 of being unstuck, but then lost a pot to a young aggro asian kid on my right who was straddling and raising more than his fair share.

Wound up in a multiway pot where it was checked around on the J63 rainbow flop, the turn paired the 3 and I had K3xx and he bet, I called from the button figuring I was finally going to catch his ass speeding. River paired the 6 and he bet again, I made the crying call, he looked dejected and said "I just have a 3" and only showed a 3.

I figured my kicker had to be good here, but asked him what his kicker was and he said "An Ace" and turned that over and scooped a decent sized pot.

Had to settle for a $500 loss on the session. Still having a good month though

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 3:11 PM#1520

Getting ready for Monday morning PLO

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 3:42 PM#1521

Starting it off right

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 4:02 PM#1522

So the reason I stacked up early

We are 5 handed. Nit of nits in the CO raises to 15. I am on button with

:kd::kc::qc::th:

I pot to 55

He repots to 175 but puts his whole stack in and says "let's get it in, we'll go twice" so I figure him for Aces

He has about 350-400 behind his reraise

I opt to just call and we see a beautiful flop of

:jc::9c::6h:

He shoves, I call, we go twice. I make straight on 1st board and flush on 2nd

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 6:03 PM#1523

Down a little now. LAG on my right running pure against me

I flop top 2 pr, straight draw and 4th flush draw

I pot, three ways to turn, I have position. Suited Ace hits giving me 3rd nuts

We check, brick river, he bets half pot has K3 suited for nuts

Then on a QQ9 flop I have AQ87 and he has KQJ6 and hits the river K

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 8:15 PM#1524

Down about $700 and we limp repot with :jh::tc::8h::7c: and run it twice vs Aces, win both boards

Cuban mode activated!

JMC9389Regular89 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 8:15 PM#1525

Down about $700 and we limp repot with :jh::tc::8h::7c: and run it twice vs Aces, win both boards

Cuban mode activated!

I bet you even flopped the Cuban wrap draws!

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 8:22 PM#1526

Down about $700 and we limp repot with :jh::tc::8h::7c: and run it twice vs Aces, win both boards

Cuban mode activated!

Is your phone on your lap at the table? :cool

GeremieMicro-Stakes Grinder11 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 8:48 PM#1527

Is it Martino or Martinez?!?

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 8:50 PM#1528

Is it Martino or Martinez?!?

Si, Conando!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 21, 2020, 10:22 PM#1529

Had to take another loss today, -$300. Not too terrible. Had a few crazies making it $20 or $40 preflop and just couldn't get much going

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 22, 2020, 12:08 PM#1530

Tonight will be my last session before the holidays. Going to be playing a 6/12 limit mixed game at TGT that was organized by a dealer from the Hard Rock. 9 games available to be picked:

Omaha 8

7-Card Stud

Razz

Stud 8

2-7 Triple Draw

A-5 Triple Draw

Badugi

Badeucy

Badacey

Been forever since I've played any limit mixed games, so should be a nice wind down. Going to be taking Wednesday - Friday off from poker, back at it Saturday at the Hard Rock, off Sunday. Back at TGT Monday and then Tuesday night Silks is running that rescheduled $7,500 guaranteed PLO tourney so will be playing that.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 22, 2020, 12:18 PM#1531

Also forgot to mention I spoke with a dealer at TGT who confirmed the Cubans were marking the actual edges/sides of the cards (not the top/edge)

Said a group of four staff had to go through all the decks and throw out all the marked ones the day the Cubans got the boot

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 22, 2020, 12:39 PM#1533

You should unfriend him lol

It's hard to find a man who will fight for your honor these days lol

He's not someone I hang out with, I don't really hang out with anyone

I know him from the Big O game in Oxford and I just try to get along with everyone (unless they are Cuban)

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Dec 22, 2020, 1:15 PM#1534

Tonight will be my last session before the holidays. Going to be playing a 6/12 limit mixed game at TGT that was organized by a dealer from the Hard Rock. 9 games available to be picked:

Omaha 8

7-Card Stud

Razz

Stud 8

2-7 Triple Draw

A-5 Triple Draw

Badugi

Badeucy

Badacey

Been forever since I've played any limit mixed games, so should be a nice wind down. Going to be taking Wednesday - Friday off from poker, back at it Saturday at the Hard Rock, off Sunday. Back at TGT Monday and then Tuesday night Silks is running that rescheduled $7,500 guaranteed PLO tourney so will be playing that.

This sounds like my dream non-NLHE game.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Dec 22, 2020, 1:19 PM#1535

It's hard to find a man who will fight for your honor these days lol

He's not someone I hang out with, I don't really hang out with anyone

I know him from the Big O game in Oxford and I just try to get along with everyone (unless they are Cuban)

I know a Cuban. He's a real nice guy. Doesn't play cards.

Probably need to check to see if he is nicking dominoes.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 4:09 AM#1536

Playing the 6/12 mixed. Up $130 after 4 hours lol. Not going to replace PLO as my bread n butter but a fun game with good people

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 4:24 AM#1537

Holy shit, playing O8 and spectating this hand

Flop of 973 rainbow and four guys are going nuts

AAJ2 with clubs

99xx

77xx

4332

Turn is the 3 of clubs, bringing a flush draw for the guy with Aces

Capped for $48

River AN ACE

Capped 4 ways for $45 and guy with 2334 announces nut-nut lol

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 4:45 AM#1538

Playing tighter. Baduecy treating me right

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 6:16 AM#1539

If you play a little tight at mixed game poker, it's hard to lose money. With unfamiliar games that are rarely spread, your opponents will play very badly.

Like that O8 hand. AAJ2 had a one-way hand with A2 only and may as well not have had his other two cards. 99xx guy was playing high only and may as well not have had his other two cards. 77xx guy was setting money on fire, playing for half a pot. 4332 got lucky - flopped bottom set and 3rd nut low - he was worst both ways. If it's dealer's choice at this table, I'm playing O8 every time!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 6:55 AM#1540

Left up $350 on the session. Even took some opportunities to bluff and hero call and pulled them off

Back at it Saturday, hope everyone has a great holiday!

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 7:58 AM#1541

If you play a little tight at mixed game poker, it's hard to lose money. With unfamiliar games that are rarely spread, your opponents will play very badly.

Like that O8 hand. AAJ2 had a one-way hand with A2 only and may as well not have had his other two cards. 99xx guy was playing high only and may as well not have had his other two cards. 77xx guy was setting money on fire, playing for half a pot. 4332 got lucky - flopped bottom set and 3rd nut low - he was worst both ways. If it's dealer's choice at this table, I'm playing O8 every time!

AAJ2 is not getting the worst of it, 4 handed. He could get 6th'd, but that is a lot less likely than getting half.

Legend5555Regular33 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 12:49 PM#1542

I wish I could have been in that 6/12 game so badly. Draw games and Stud8 are my favorite non-holdem games. However, using 1s and 5s instead of 2s would be a bit tilting.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 2:07 PM#1543

I wish I could have been in that 6/12 game so badly. Draw games and Stud8 are my favorite non-holdem games. However, using 1s and 5s instead of 2s would be a bit tilting.

The room has yellow $2 chips too, wish we were using stacks and stacks of those as well.

But when in Gallic-occupied Rome...........

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 7:38 PM#1544

Some pics from last nights mixed game, including one where I'm clearly telling Sandy "don't you fuck me on this river!" I take my pokers seriously!

mooseRegular51 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 8:07 PM#1545

Lol what's the point of masks if they let those two guys sit there with their noses hanging out? Here's a clue why "masks don't work" @SpaceMonkey420 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/8435/)

raynmanasRegular49 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 8:09 PM#1546

Lol what's the point of masks if they let those two guys sit there with their noses hanging out? Here's a clue why "masks don't work" @SpaceMonkey420 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/8435/)

there's (at least) one in every crowd.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 23, 2020, 8:14 PM#1547

Lol what's the point of masks if they let those two guys sit there with their noses hanging out? Here's a clue why "masks don't work" @SpaceMonkey420 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/members/8435/)

Gravity like a motherfucker!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 1:48 AM#1548

In for $500 at 1/2 PLO

BennyDaButcherNewbie1 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 2:07 AM#1549

I commend those of you that made the leap into full time poker lifestyle. Much respect gentlemen

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 2:42 AM#1550

Two young gun "wizards" on my right keep trying to run bluffs

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 3:46 AM#1551

Won a couple hundo at 1/2

Now playing a mostly passive 2/5 with rock, lots of stations, one doofus raising 4456 pre into field, etc

PlayerADKMicro-Stakes Grinder14 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 3:52 AM#1552

Been wanting to come to Tampa forever - I was supposed to come down in April 2020 but obviously that was canceled.

Around Panama city a lot but might need to make a roast road trip there soon. Would be fun to play live sometime

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 3:54 AM#1553

Been wanting to come to Tampa forever - I was supposed to come down in April 2020 but obviously that was canceled.

Around Panama city a lot but might need to make a roast road trip there soon. Would be fun to play live sometime

Let me know when you'll be in town, would be happy to meetup

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 4:23 AM#1554

Wheee

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 5:21 AM#1555

2/5 game broke, got a seat at 5/10 with 25 rock. Dude on my right destroying the game, has like 15k

I min bought for $500 will try and spin it up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 6:22 AM#1556

In for $1300 out for $2,375 Played 1/2 and 2/5/10 and 5/10/25 PLO won all tables

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 7:20 AM#1557

Baby it's cold outside!

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 1:32 PM#1558

Baby it's cold outside!

View attachment 602574 (https://www.pokerchipforum.com/attachments/602574/)

The one song that I will hear in my head everytime Anthony walks into a room now.

"Sexy Bitch"

tabletalker7Shark116 posts
Posted Dec 27, 2020, 1:43 PM#1559

The one song that I will hear in my head everytime Anthony walks into a room now.

"Sexy Bitch"

He better be a sexy bitch after having those 2 drunk guys fighting over him last week :)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 28, 2020, 3:43 AM#1560

The one song that I will hear in my head everytime Anthony walks into a room now.

"Sexy Bitch"

Akon in the hizzouse! I made sure I paused it on that song, figured it would spark some laughs.

Forgot to mention in the 5/10 game with the $25 rock. So I get into the game and the dude a few spots to my left has like 8 grand in $100 chips plus a bunch of lavender $500 chips and so forth. There were other "reasonable" stacks in the game, plus a few smaller ones. I always buyin for the minimum $500 at this stake and just try to spin it up.

In the BB I held :4h::6c::6s::7h: and saw a multiway flop of:

:2h::3c::7d:

We all checked to the big stack who had limped in LP, and he bets out $100. I opt to check-raise shove my $425. My thought process is that this particular flop isn't likely to have hit many folks ranges, so it's a good flop to bluff at, and he's betting less than the pot. However, being in the blinds, this flop is better for my range, not to mention I actually hit it somewhat.

Unfortunately a guy who limped UTG+1 reshoves to $575. The big stack thinks forever, and then calls another $475 with....

:2s::8s::9c::9d:

Yes, he called two check-raises with just an overpair.

Turn: :ts:

River: :2c:

And he wins with three dueces (the UTG+1 guy doesn't show).

I buyin for another $500 and manage to double that up when I flop a pair plus top wrap against a guy with bottom two pair that only runs it once. I bink my straight. Then I managed to win a few other hands where the pot was either limped multiway or min-raised to $50 and multiway to the flop and then checked down (or someone tried to make small bets and I picked them off with a weak flush) to chip up a little bit more.

A couple of players to my right wound up leaving the game and we were going to be five-handed. I had gone from +$400 (after playing 1/2 and the 2/5 with a rock) to -$100 (after losing my first buyin at 5/10 with a 25 rock) to +$1,075 and opted to call it a night rather than play short-handed and ride the variance train.

I mean, even if I had bought in for 5K I'd need to double up through the big stack and then he could STILL bust me. Was told by another player that guy started with only $700 and just ran it up.

He didn't seem all that good either, but I haven't played enough with him to know for sure. I've only seen him once before and was told the game he was in was good (was typically $200-300 preflop), but again he had a HUGE stack.

Oh yeah, and another regular degen in the game flopped bottom set of 3's against a guy who flopped top set of Kings, got it in and binked the quads on him, so gross (the reg degen also only runs it once, he's the one who doubled me up with bottom two pair against my straight draw plus pair)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 28, 2020, 3:16 PM#1561

Spoke to my buddy this morning who was in the 5/10 PLO game

Said that guy went from $700 to 20k, lost it all AND went 15k deep into his pocket!

I'm waiting for the luckys game to begin

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 28, 2020, 5:01 PM#1562

Chipping up

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 28, 2020, 10:14 PM#1563

Well I made a boneheaded move to lose my first buyin

Just before this hand starts, guy on the button has a verbal altercation with the player on his right

This hand he is $5 straddle and raises after a bunch of limpers, including myself in the blinds with JJT8 one suit

Flop is 777 and we all check to him. He pots and I repot to isolate, figuring he is steaming

Unfortunately he is not steaming, he legit woke up with AAXX and to top it off, the guy he was fighting with has 7xxx for quads

I buyin for another 1k but continue a slow bleed.

I even tried making some raises pre from the button and CO. Everyone just assumes I always have Aces in those spots, so on a flop of :8s::4s::4h: it's checked to me and I pot it to $180

Guy on my left REPOTS and another guy behind him stacks off and I muck (think I had raised something like J998 double suited, changing up my game a bit)

Anyway, both of them have extremely ugly hands they called a raise OOP with, like J654 and KT43

Fortunately I get involved in a hand that is raised pre and multiway to the flop, I have:

:ts::tc::9c::9d:

Flop is :ah::9h::3h:

We all check.

Turn :2c:

Checked around again

River :9s:

I bet 75 and the guy on my left pots it! I get it in and he has Aces full vs my quads (he didn't reraise from the button pre with his Aces)

My buddy Mike needles me with "good thing you didn't have more money in front of you!"

I manage getting out of the session only stuck $600

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Dec 30, 2020, 7:03 AM#1564

Played the $7,500 guaranteed PLO tourney today.

$200 buyin. Only had 5 players about 10-15 minutes after the scheduled start time so they cancelled it and gave us our money back plus a $150 voucher for their monday tourney

We had enough to start a cash game, that filled quick, then more players showed up and they had enough interest to run the tourney and were willing to eat the guarantee as long as they had 9 players

We wound up with 42 entries I think. I managed to final table it. We all agreed to get our $200 back

Then when we got 6 handed my buddy Sean had all the chips, rest of us on fumes. We gave him $2,300 and all took $900 each

Here's some pics plus a final table video

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10222060176165190&id=1585435538

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 1, 2021, 3:12 PM#1565

New years Day and came early since 11am is an $1,100 tourney plus the start of $2,021 high hands every 40 minutes

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 1, 2021, 4:02 PM#1566

Lol guy at my PLO table playing 2366 complaining how bad he runs

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 1, 2021, 5:19 PM#1567

Ooch, flop set of quuens on a KQ6 rainbow board with a K blocker

Turn the Q for quads, brings FD with KQ of spades

River 9 of spades and get checkraised by shortie who has TJ spades

No bbj whomp whomp

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 1, 2021, 9:14 PM#1568

Called a $5 button straddle from the HJ with :ah::qh::js::8c:

LAG Button raises to 20, bunch of callers, I pot it to $130

CO and button both call!

Flop is :8h::4h::3h:

BINGO BANGO BONGO VINCE!

I pot it and guy on my left says "REALLY???!!"

thinks for a bit, says "I don't believe you" and puts his stack in (I know he's got the King high now)

Button thinks for awhile, not sure if I want his call lol

He calls with bottom 2 pr and and a bad flush, I hold and scoop

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 1, 2021, 11:48 PM#1569

-$300 in the 2/5/10 game

+$981 in the 1/2 PLO even after losing with quads

Didn't hit any of the $2,021 high hands but it runs again tomorrow so back at it in the morning since with that and the tourney it will be a zoo if I go later

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 2, 2021, 3:16 PM#1570

So back in 2019 we earned card levels based on comps

But in 2020 they switched to Tier points and poker doesn't earn you any

But because of Covid they renewed my Elite status for all of 2021 AND renewed the parking pass for TWO years!

Tarheel4LifeNewbie2 posts
Posted Jan 2, 2021, 3:20 PM#1571

Anthony: “This will be an exciting thread about my journey as a professional grinder”

also Anthony: “I got my parking pass renewed for TWO years!“

Please take this to the PPF (parkingpassforum.com).

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 2, 2021, 3:22 PM#1572

Anthony: “This will be an exciting thread about my journey as a professional grinder”

also Anthony: “I got my parking pass renewed for TWO years!“

Please take this to the PPF (parkingpassforum.com).

Not having to park in the crowded general areas on busy days is huge, the Elite parking is much nicer (especially for wheel thieves)

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 2, 2021, 5:01 PM#1573

From humble beginnings

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 2, 2021, 8:07 PM#1574

A slow climb today, no knockout blows yet

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 2, 2021, 8:49 PM#1575

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 2, 2021, 9:28 PM#1576

LAG on my right doubles through me

I flop pair plus fd and straight draw, turn 2 pr and repot him

He has top set and holds, whomp whomp

Luckily only had a few hundred so not too bad

Mojo1312Micro-Stakes Grinder18 posts
Posted Jan 3, 2021, 6:30 AM#1577

LAG on my right doubles through me

I flop pair plus fd and straight draw, turn 2 pr and repot him

He has top set and holds, whomp whomp

Luckily only had a few hundred so not too bad

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 3, 2021, 12:06 PM#1578

Had to settle for a small loss yesterday, -$112 on the session. No luck hitting those $2,021 high hands either

My buddy Mike was in town, he is an X-card and was invited to a 500k blackjack tourney so I got to attend which was cool

He won his first table to advance but busted in the 2nd round, whomp whomp

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 4, 2021, 3:20 PM#1579

Monday morning PLO

ChipTalkerRegular31 posts
Posted Jan 4, 2021, 3:40 PM#1580

I have been following this thread loosely and it is an interesting read. One thing I never realized unless it is just different in FL than in NJ by me ... is that there are good enough games that run this early in the morning/afternoon especially on a weekday. GL

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 4, 2021, 3:48 PM#1581

I have been following this thread loosely and it is an interesting read. One thing I never realized unless it is just different in FL than in NJ by me ... is that there are good enough games that run this early in the morning/afternoon especially on a weekday. GL

The Monday game at TGT is an anomoly for sure

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jan 4, 2021, 6:45 PM#1582

I have been following this thread loosely and it is an interesting read. One thing I never realized unless it is just different in FL than in NJ by me ... is that there are good enough games that run this early in the morning/afternoon especially on a weekday. GL

To be fair, it is Florida. Dinner is at 4:00 pm, and in bed by 8. :watching:

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 5, 2021, 2:59 AM#1583

Well, unfortunately what started early as a +$900 day turned into a -$250 one

Got involved in this hand where there was a raise preflop and we were multiway

Nit of nits bets $75 on the flop and to my immediate right

I call, then guy with just the nfd repots all-in for around $320 and then the guy who flopped the nut straight repots all-in for $415 total

The nit, having flopped the nuts but with no redraws lets it go.

I know I'm behind, but figure I have enough equity to call an additional $340 to try and win this massive pot

We run it twice, flush comes in on one board, straight holds on the other and I'm the guy who doesn't improve

Then later I call a preflop raise from an action player who is OOP

Flop is A95 with two diamonds. He bets smallish, weak player calls, I pot it with A986

Action guy calls, other player folds. K on turn, action checks, I check back. River an offsuit J, he bets smallish, I call and see he has K992 for a flopped middle set plus NFD

Another hand I see a rainbow KJ4 flop with JJTX in my hand

I bet pot of 60, mostly solid player on my left repots, then another player who is new to me but seems solid repots and covers me

I figure the first guy for a wrap. The 2nd guy might have a strong wrap as well, or he might have top set putting me in a ton of trouble

Facing that much action with just middle set and nothing else I let it go

I was correct, first guy has AQJT and other guy has KKxx

They go twice and the wrap wins both boards

It always sucks to start out with a nice profit and see it evaporate

But in the end, I was down $600 at one point and was able to rally back to just down $25 at one point, before dropping a little bit more

I'm off through Thursday, back at Hard Rock on Friday

TomC727Shark418 posts
Posted Jan 5, 2021, 6:18 AM#1584

I love reading this thread.

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Jan 5, 2021, 2:36 PM#1585

To be fair, it is Florida. Dinner is at 4:00 pm, and in bed by 8. :watching:

You know, when it's getting dark at 5:30, that's not a bad schedule. Especially since it eliminates all the crap on TV from 8-11.

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jan 5, 2021, 8:41 PM#1586

You know, when it's getting dark at 5:30, that's not a bad schedule. Especially since it eliminates all the crap on TV from 8-11.

How you know Larry is old...

Lives in Florida, and hasn't done any "Florida Man" things.

Goes to bed once he can't see the clouds to yell at them.

Still watches tv on their programming schedule.

;)

pltrgystRegular47 posts
Posted Jan 5, 2021, 10:29 PM#1587

How you know Larry is old...

Lives in Florida, and hasn't done any "Florida Man" things.

Goes to bed once he can't see the clouds to yell at them.

Still watches tv on their programming schedule.

;)

  1. Hey, Larry is old. OTOH, that's how I got my COVID vaccine yesterday. o_O

  2. Basically, doesn't watch any TV except for Tennis Channel, AXSTV (Dan Rather and music), and Rachel Maddow (once or twice a week), all by DVR.

  3. I yell at them in my dreams. When you're older, you'll understand this. :p

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 12:03 AM#1588

Getting ready for some 6/12 mixed action

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 12:43 AM#1589

Putting on a clinic early

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 1:04 AM#1591

Which game you win most of that in?

Badugi and A-5 triple draw

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 2:26 AM#1593

If ever a game screamed out for $3 chips!

They have $2 chips here but guess they don't really use them for play, just tipping mostly

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 4:11 AM#1594

Man, my favorite games been running like dogshit. Get A24xx with three suits in Badacey and just brick-brick while droolers are drawing 3 and 4 cards and getting there

Start with 247 in triple draw, bricking

Was back to my buyin, back up $100 but been a rough few hours

Just saw two #1's in triple draw showdown against a #2, ouch

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 7:41 AM#1595

Ooch, what a swingy night. Started off running hot and up close to $300 early

Saw that swing back towards starting stack as I ran terrible in Baduecy, Badacey, 2-7 Triple Draw and A-5 Triple Draw

Managed to get back up $100, then $200, then fell off a cliff qnd nearing the end of the session was down $100

TGT closes at 2am and it was the absolute final hand of the night. I have the button playing Baduecy and after limpers raise with

:3d::4c::5h:XX

Bunch of callers and on my first draw pickup the beautiful :7s: so I can feel comfortable betting or raising

Everyone check-calls my bet, I draw one and BINK it's the :2h: for the nuts and a perfect 7 dugi

SB checks, BB bets $12, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, I raise to $24, SB, BB and UTG+1 all call, the CO folds

I stand pat and get the SB and BB to pay off my river bet

This pot swings me back into the positive as I cash out with a $62 profit lol

toothpicRegular72 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 4:20 PM#1596

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 8:33 PM#1597

Some pics from last nights mix game

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 8:46 PM#1598

2/5/10 PLO starting soon

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 9:24 PM#1599

Just got the triple up. In for $1300 and 2 guys tried using small raises then bigger raises to push me out, but called $240 preflop after multiple raises back and forth with :ad::jd::9c::6c: on the button

Flop is :3d::4d::js:

They both check-call my pot size bet of $780 and I have $130 behind

Turn :9s:

One guy shoves, I get it in, SB calls and he only goes once

River :kc:

Winner of side pot has a pair of queens with Q-high diamond draw

My two pair is good for main pot

Kain8Regular63 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 9:27 PM#1600

That top picture would make a nice desktop wallpaper!

FDLmoldRegular49 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 11:00 PM#1601

Pumpkin time!

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 11:02 PM#1602

Pumpkin time!

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 11:12 PM#1603

Anthony Martino.

Little man, Huge balls.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 8, 2021, 11:22 PM#1604

Anthony Martino.

Little man, Huge balls.

Now I know what I want on my tombstone

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 2:15 AM#1605

Ok, update on how that big hand played out, I was off a smidge

EP strong pro makes it 20 (i.e. minraise)

I call on button, SB makes it 40 (degen gambler who only goes once, he's not terrible, but he can play a very wide range of hands so you are always at risk with him)

Then EP repops to 70, I call both raises on button and SB repops to 240, figuring maybe he can shake one of us loose

EP guy just calls, I call cause fuck these guys!

Then I get about as good a flop as I could hope for and essentially get it in, except the $130 I have left, which goes on the turn

SB never shows but EP shows up with :qh::qd::8d::6d: and later after I had left to play the 1/2 PLO swung by and while talking told me he didn't know what I was doing in the hand and felt I had played it wrong, lol

Like, motherfucker you went nuts with shitty queens OOP against a degenerate gambler that won't fold and a guy who is generally going to have a strong range in these spots (fwiw my play was certainly out of character and looser than usual, but I had position and knew their raises were just trying to force me out, and like I said...

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 3:22 AM#1606

In for $1,300 out for $4,076

A great session today. Back at it early Saturday. Starting at 11am they have regular high hands every 30 minutes, plus a bonus mega high hand every 2 hours that pays 2k to the highest hand of that period

Expecting the place will be packed and lists long, so getting there early so I'm not stuck waiting 3 hrs for a seat

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 4:00 PM#1607

The equity stages of that big hand, without knowing the third guys hand

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 4:25 PM#1608

Preflop, he was good.

After the flop, calling $780 isn't terrible just short of a coin-flip with implied odds.

$130 more, even at 27%, is priced in to call.

I know the 3rd player would alter these numbers, but from what I can see, his actions were not bad on any street. Then again, I'm terrible at poker.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 4:25 PM#1609

Preflop, he was good.

After the flop, calling $780 isn't terrible just short of a coin-flip with implied odds.

$130 more, even at 27%, is priced in to call.

I know the 3rd player would alter these numbers, but from what I can see, his actions were not bad on any street. Then again, I'm terrible at poker.

His preflop play was awful

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 4:32 PM#1610

His preflop play was awful

He's minraising shitty queens OOP with one suit, then getting into a raising war preflop with them against a degenerate loose player who can put him to a tough decision and a rock who has position on him

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 4:34 PM#1611

Only one on PLO lists so hopped into tourney, already doubled lol

Poker ZombieShark455 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 5:26 PM#1612

He's minraising shitty queens OOP with one suit, then getting into a raising war preflop with them against a degenerate loose player who can put him to a tough decision and a rock who has position on him

I can't disagree that minrasing with Q's is a bad play, but it is possible that he was trying to trap/reraise the degen with a playable hand. I also have no idea what kind of read he has on you.

It's certainly not the way I would play it, but if you get inside his head it may actually make sence.

Either way, he paid your mortgage this month, so I'd congratulate him on how well he played the hand, and apologize for dealing him the "bad beat". You have to pay the mortgage next month too.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 7:47 PM#1613

Up to 80k

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 7:51 PM#1614

Busted 2 regs, over 100k now from 30k starting

200 MotelsRegular50 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 7:57 PM#1615

Get dem! Those are some sexual tourney chips. Not just because of all the hooker juice.

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 7:58 PM#1616

Get dem! Those are some sexual tourney chips. Not just because of all the hooker juice.

Yes I like this set

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 8:15 PM#1618

Sent another reg home, she makes it 2500 pre at 400/800/800

I pop to 10k with AK, she shoves with TT, I flop K

Almost busted two more guys but I play too good

Raise :ad::jd: to 2200 from LP

Kids in blinds shove for 34k and other kid for 28k

I fold, they both have AK and I would've rivered the J to bust em both

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 8:29 PM#1619

At 121,500 on break from 30k

Anthony MartinoHigh Roller875 posts
Posted Jan 9, 2021, 8:46 PM#1620

72 left, 14 paid. 8 grand for 1st

Will need around 275k to be avg stack in the $$$

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