Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I start this with some pictures: nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4)

2023 graph?

Paisting???? I WAITED 365 DAYS FOR THIS!

Any updates?

Maybe he gave up poker for his New Year's resolution.

2023 Year In Numbers Year is over and it's time to reveal loses. I grinded on 2 sites acr and 888. Cash and also little bit tournaments too. On acr it was only nl2 and on 888 it was nl5 and nl10. Playing nl10 was clearly mistake. Losses go up really quickly and on that stake they are not folding like someone here say they would. In fact they call way more and are more whales than on nl5. That increases number of suckouts too because they call so massively wide. On 888 cash we saw massive under ev running with endless suckouts resulting -$352 under EV. That's more than nl5 bankroll to suckouts. Tournaments on acr are impossible to make any profit. Those last like 8-10 hours and player pool is really tough. Everything that they say on tournament books or on coaching sites won't work on those games. Maybe 2 times I managed to take mincash. These are very sad results if we take account that player pool on those cash stakes has gone worst and worst in last couple of years. There was time when you had like 2 green marked guy on table and now you have almost every time like 4-5 of them. Lets keep up hard grinding and hope we get the first winning month ever on this year. acr nl2 -$478.27 tournaments -$208.14 888 nl5 -$2995.32 nl10 -$4675.43 tournaments -$146.68 Total loss -$8503.84 888 cash

acr cash

acr tournaments

888 tournaments

Paisting, show how much rake you paid and tell us. My estimate is about 8k. You're not that bad as it seems!

Not even running bad. Pretty disappointing year imo. I feel let down.

Happy New Year.

Running almost 30 BIs above EV at 2NL? That’s a whole 2NL bankroll. You truly are among the luckiest players alive.

by ddn m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58399905#post58399905)

Running nearly 30 BIs over EV at 2NL? That's an entire 2NL bankroll

That’s nowhere even near enough for nl2. You can find many graphs from this topic where I run over 100 buy ins below ev. That’s why I’m revealing hoaxers here who say they beat nl2 but in fact are just won like 20 buy ins with really few hands. Many those hoaxers like Confucius96 won’t even play anymore because of me revealing them and saving people’s money when they try to sell coaching.

How can you lose over 8k at 10nl and below in one year? Feels almost impossible... Unless... IS PAISTING SUPER USING?? Hear me out. I believe this player can see everyone's cards but uses the info to ensure he loses. He's rich and bored and has decided to have some fun with us for the past 5 years. Think I might be on to something here. Can't be that much less likely than someone losing that much money at the lowest stakes games around year after year.

by Redsoxnets5 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400313#post58400313)

How can you lose over 8k at 10nl and below in one year? Feels almost impossible...

Yes there are lots of people that are saying and have contacted me directly that games are not maybe going far. You can find lots of hands in this topic that shows how brutal I lose against absolute whales. One thing you should all think is that if there’s even little bit luck involved in this game how is it possible to not get even 1 winning month.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400369#post58400369)

Yes, many people have told me directly, and there are numerous posts in this thread, that the games might not be going well. You can see plenty of examples here showing how brutally I lose to absolute whales. One thing to consider is that if there’s even a small amount of luck in this game, how is it possible to not have even 1 one winning month.

Why do you expect everyone else to use logic when you yourself refuse to? You claim the games are rigged and therefore unbeatable, yet you’ve played consistently for a dozen years (while losing a quarter of a million dollars in that time). Is that because gambling addiction is irrational? By the way, are you addicted to gambling?

This started out hilarious and is so painful now. Are there public mental healthcare options available in paistings country

I'm disappointed and expected worse.

I haven’t been around for a while but came back to check the 2023 outcomes of the poker G.O.D. Losing that amount seems nearly impossible unless you’re simply open-shoving on every flop… nvm

by shynepo3 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400443#post58400443)

i haven’t been here in a while but came to see the 2023 results of the poker G.O.D. Losing that much is close to impossible unless you are just open shoving every flop…nvm

I could've sworn that you've lost almost as much or more than paisting at only 2nl and that's why it's been a while since you been here...nvm

by NJPW m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400618#post58400618)

I could have sworn that you lost almost as or even more than paisting at only 2nl and that’s why it’s been some time since you were around... nevermind

why are you hating? People like me and paisting support the micro 2nl economy, bro. We’re doing a service. What do you do? You just take and take and take.

One thing you should all think is that if there’s even little bit luck involved in this game how is it possible to not get even 1 winning month. There is so much irony packed into this one short sentence that it perfectly encapsulates this entire thread.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400369#post58400369)

One thing you should all consider is that if there’s even a small amount of luck in this game, how could you avoid not having even 1 a winning month?

your actual winrate is likely about -50 bb/100, and clearly with a large standard deviation because of your "elusive" approach. with a monthly average of 20000 hands, your probability of winning is 0.2%. you would need to play 42 years to expect 1 winning month. hope this helps.

I actually have a serious suggestion here, one that could help Paisting have a better 2024 on the felt. We produce a documentary about OP's poker adventures. We might call it 'Taking a Paisting' or something similar. While I'm certainly no Werner Herzog, I do have some filmmaking experience and own some of the necessary equipment. The documentary could open with footage of Paisting going on monkey tilt after suffering a bad beat from one of those late-position raising whales, then a well-known poker pro or Two Plus Two poster briefly introduces online poker and describes how tragic/hilarious/practically impossible it is to replicate the results posted in the now-iconic Paisting thread. Act 2 of the film would involve hiring a poker coach (Polk or Galfond might be unrealistic but would be great PR), and flying to wherever Paisting lives with a director, cameraman and that coach for 2 weeks of intensive training. Maybe include a few Skype sessions with a poker psychologist/author about tilt. Act 3 would compare Paisting’s results before and after the crash course, perhaps showing the graphs to several well-known players or Two Plus Two posters. If the coach is willing to work for PR and another director/cameraperson helps for free (I would), we’d probably only need to raise about $6-7k to cover flights, food and hotels x3 and someone to edit. We could start a GoFundMe where people buy shares, or try to get Upswing/RunitOnce to sponsor the project. What does everyone think? Paisting, would you be open to this?

by treetop21 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400743#post58400743)

I actually have a serious suggestion here, one which could help Paisting have a better 2024 on the felt. We make a documentary about OP's poker exploits. We could call it 'Taking a Paisting' or something like that. Whilst I'm certainly no Werner Herzog, I have a some experience in filmmaking and some of the equipment required to do so. Said documentary opens with footage of Pai... See full post

i think this is a great idea. i'd love to watch Paisting lecture both the poker coach and psychologist!!

I believe Paisting has already been exploited sufficiently, m8.

by Tuma m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400760#post58400760)

I think Paisting has been taken advantage of enough, m8.

The aim would not be to exploit or bully anyone. It would be to see whether he could shift from a losing player to a winning one, and more generally to explore whether habitual people can change or adapt. Or we could all do nothing but mock at him in this thread for another 5+ years while he loses another quarter million playing the lowest-stakes games online. Is that preferable?

You make blackjack and roulette look +ev, try it out.

by treetop21 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400763#post58400763)

The purpose would not be to exploit/bully anyone. It would be to determine if he could go from a losing player to a winning player, and more broadly to examine whether people of habit can change/adapt. Or we could all do nothing but laugh at him in this thread for another 5+ years whilst he loses another quarter million playing the lowest stakes games on the Internet. Is that p... See full post

it would for sure make for an absolutely riveting documentary. the problem is that Paisting would never participate in such a film. he doesn't even want free coaching because he doesn't feel he needs it. his losing at the tables isn't his fault - it's everyone else's.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400774#post58400774)

his losing at the tables isn't his fault - it's everyone else's.

Kind if makes sense because everyone at the table has brains and is smart enough not to jam every hand untill your br for the moment is a bust after losing a preflop allin with aces against kings. Also they understand that making a few -ev calls ends up being massively +ev for the same reason.

by enzet m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400739#post58400739)

your true winrate is probably around -50 bb/100, and obviously with a high std. deviation thanks for your "elusive" style. with a monthly average of 20000 hands your chance of winning is 0.2%. you need to play 42 years to have an expected amount of 1 winning month. hope this helps.

Way too logical for a response but really hope you get one!

by treetop21 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400743#post58400743)

I actually have a serious suggestion here, one which could help Paisting have a better 2024 on the felt. We make a documentary about OP's poker exploits. We could call it 'Taking a Paisting' or something like that. Whilst I'm certainly no Werner Herzog, I have a some experience in filmmaking and some of the equipment required to do so. Said documentary opens with footage of Pai... See full post

You could give Paisting RTA in the form of an advanced AI brain implant that combined Nash Equilibrium strategies with MDA and individual player stats to report the perfect play for every single spot, and he'd still find a way to be a massively losing player. While your documentary would be riveting to watch, we all know 2 weeks of coaching wouldn't help OP in the slightest.

You can't properly punish min-raising whales with RTA.

1 word for that graph shocking also i hope he stopped depositing? let me know jeez mary and joseph

by Controlledraise m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58403591#post58403591)

1 word for that graph shocking also i hope he stopped depositing? let me know jeez mary and joseph

What do you expect from addict though?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400281#post58400281)

That’s nowhere even near enough for nl2. You can find many graphs from this topic where I run over 100 buy ins below ev. That’s why I’m revealing hoaxers here who say they beat nl2 but in fact are just won like 20 buy ins with really few hands.Many those hoaxers like Confucius96 won’t even play anymore because of me revealing them and saving people’s money when they try to sell... See full post

Your win rate has improved drastically. You went from losing around 100bb/100 to 50bb/100. Congrats, you can now play better than my refrigerator.

by MicroDonkYT m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404060#post58404060)

Your win rate has improved drastically. You went from losing around 100bb/100 to 50bb/100. Congrats, you can now play better than my refrigerator.

That's because I've started to play super aggressive against late positions from blinds. And everyone who is saying I'm shoving every hand go back and look those hands I've posted to this topic. And also what is problem shove hand with 80%+ equity if you know they are calling? You find lots of those too from this years post. Almost every of those suckouted by massive whale.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404941#post58404941)

That's because I've started to play super aggressive against late positions from blinds. And everyone who is saying I'm shoving every hand go back and look those hands I've posted to this topic. And also what is problem shove hand with 80%+ equity if you know they are calling? You find lots of those too from this years post. Almost every of those suckouted by massive whale.

It's hard to argue with this, Paisting. Maybe there are good times ahead.

by Tuma m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404947#post58404947)

It's hard to argue with this, Paisting

Many things I have told for years ago are now something that people see was true. Also many things been debunked by me like playing higher, playing all in or fold games, everything.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58404941#post58404941)

That's because I've started to play super aggressive against late positions from blinds. And everyone who is saying I'm shoving every hand go back and look those hands I've posted to this topic. And also what is problem shove hand with 80%+ equity if you know they are calling? You find lots of those too from this years post. Almost every of those suckouted by massive whale.

these are all good points, if not for those you would deffo be a winning player

by ManastaR m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400772#post58400772)

You make blackjack and roulette look +ev, try it out.

This.

by b1ochemical m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58412580#post58412580)

This.

Like GG’s all in or fold games that I absolute crushed with massive winrate and still lost almost $200. If you look this topic you in fact see that I’ve been debunked every suggested +ev games one by one to show you give false suggestions.

Paisting discovered rake after playing for 20 years, 60 more and he might win something.

I just saw this thread and couldn't believe my eyes. Dude, do you have a job, family? Why are you torturing yourself? Even if $8k a year isn’t a lot of money for you, it’s hellish to lose all the time.

by max3602 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58416394#post58416394)

Even if $8k a year isn’t a lot of money for you, it’s hellish to lose all the time.

I haven’t said that it’s not lots of money. In fact if you think the stakes I’m playing it is really big loss because I’m here for making profit and first winning month. I also think losing 350 dollars to suckouts is really big number looking those hands and how whale the players are.

Dude, your suckout losses are only about 1% of your total losses, and considering that you are all in most of your hands - 1% is nothing, you are NOT unlucky. You have serious gambling and mental problems. I dont want to be rude to you, i ve created this acc to post in this thread. Einstein once said - “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Bro, you will never break even. You should close this chapter of your life and live on, you are torturing yourself. I think that you are a capable and intelligent person, but this is not enough to succeed in poker. Poker is about discipline. And there is no shame to stop this insanity, if you ever quit poker i think most people would consider it a win for you. It is extremely hard to quit on your own, so you need to seek help (addict groups, psychologists, family). Wish you well.

by Lokitor m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58416697#post58416697)

Dude, your suckout losses are only about 1% of your total losses, and considering that you are all in most of your hands

It’s not all in every hand. One of the biggest false claims in this topic. Look those hands posted here. When you see there’s all in, it’s massive ahead in equity in many spots.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58416707#post58416707)

It’s not all in every hand. One of the biggest false claims in this topic. Look those hands posted here. When you see there’s all in, it’s massive ahead in equity in many spots.

I didnt say every hand, i said most. Even if you end up all in preflop 5% of your hands it is insanely -ev. I have played 6700 hands today, i am too lazy to check all-ins that were called preflop, but its probably about 15-30 hands.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58416707#post58416707)

When you see there’s all in, it’s massive ahead in equity in many spots.

because you dont post your suckouts, all those months you've ran above ev

Can we get an all time graph pls? In pt4 you can create an alias and add your accounts into one graph

gl in 2024 paisting.

2024 is gonna be different for paisting I can feel it

by Lokitor m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58416697#post58416697)

Dude, your suckout losses are only about 1% of your total losses, and considering that you are all in most of your hands - 1% is nothing, you are NOT unlucky. You have serious gambling and mental problems. I dont want to be rude to you, i ve created this acc to post in this thread. Einstein once said - “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting differen... See full post

Seems like you're jealous you aren't the one with a massive thread like this. lol @ telling someone they have a problem when you really have no clue about anything in their life. Would also bet a lot of money this isn't the only 2p2 account you've ever had.

by chiefsfan17 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58417691#post58417691)

Seems like you're jealous you aren't the one with a massive thread like this. lol @ telling someone they have a problem when you really have no clue about anything in their life. Would also bet a lot of money this isn't the only 2p2 account you've ever had.

this troll could've been a lot funnier. i'll grade it a C-.

Next 3 months its 50% rake back on ggpoker, come there you can make fortune 🧐

by IeatUrBread m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58419441#post58419441)

Next 3 months its 50% rake back on ggpoker, come there you can make fortune 🧐

is that really true? did they announce that after the superuser scandal was revealed?

How am I just seeing this thread?! Has anyone offered you coaching before? I'd love to see someone who's new to coaching decide to work with you for free. If they could turn you into a winner, then that could prove how great a coach you are. I'd 100% also watch a twitch stream or whatever of you playing poker; that's how you could have your first profitable month!!

by xnbomb m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58419771#post58419771)

How am I just seeing this thread?! Has anyone offered you coaching before? I'd love to see someone who's new to coaching decide to work with you for free. If they could turn you into a winner, then that could prove how great a coach you are. I'd 100% also watch a twitch stream or whatever of you playing poker; that's how you could have your first profitable month!!

he's been offered coaching several times and he's been told to stream on twitch in order to make money. he doesn't want to do either, it seems. he did record a webcam session of him playing a few years ago which he uploaded to youtube, but it's been taken down. poker isn't about winning money anyway. it's about punishing whales and late position raisers as well as proving to everyone that the site you play thousands of hands per month is rigged. i believe he's quite happy with how things are going.

fair enough. Here for the ride then! Good luck OP I hope you kill it and get your first winning month!

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58419529#post58419529)

is that really true? did they announce that after the superuser scandal was revealed?

Its true 👍

yea but its 50% before PVI, so for most its 12,5% rakeback for paisting it might be 100% RB though

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58420070#post58420070)

yea but its 50% before PVI, so for most its 12,5% rakeback for paisting it might be 100% RB though

they are actually considering giving him other players rakeback as well

I think that's only fair!

I can tell you that after losing $200 to that hoaxing site all in or fold game and when news told that guy who saw players cards I will never go back that GG idiot and clearly hoaxing site. Negreanu should to put in jail promoting that kind of absolute ****. Celebrity that has money so much you can never use all in your life time and still stealing peoples money. Total idiot.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58421735#post58421735)

I can tell you that after losing $200 to that hoaxing site all in or fold game and when news told that guy who saw players cards I will never go back that GG idiot and clearly hoaxing site. Negreanu should to put in jail promoting that kind of absolute ****. Celebrity that has money so much you can never use all in your life time and still stealing peoples money. Total idiot.

DNegs life must be hard, even paisting roasts him on the internet . Thats the bottom of the pit, i would retire from poker.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58421735#post58421735)

I can tell you that after losing $200 to that hoaxing site all in or fold game Total idiot.

You really are a total idiot if you thought you can make money from aof pre bonuses. You think you can't be more idiotic and here we go again.

by treetop21 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58400743#post58400743)

I actually have a serious suggestion here, one which could help Paisting have a better 2024 on the felt. We make a documentary about OP's poker exploits. We could call it 'Taking a Paisting' or something like that. Whilst I'm certainly no Werner Herzog, I have a some experience in filmmaking and some of the equipment required to do so. Said documentary opens with footage of Pai... See full post

I would actually be very interested in doing this. Not just for the PR, but also because Paisting's story fascinates me personally. It's too absurd to be true, but also too elaborate of a troll to be fake. Just an impossible situation really.

by keuwai m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58422327#post58422327)

I would actually be very interested in doing this. Not just for the PR, but also because Paisting's story fascinates me personally. It's too absurd to be true, but also too elaborate of a troll to be fake. Just an impossible situation really.

It's up to OP as this point. Paisting what are your thoughts?

Paisting would obviously be a HUGE winner if he chose to use the 'all-in Cashout Feature' on GG, Stars, Partypoker & SportsBetting. Has anyone told him about this? Also, he should start up a Youtube channel & become a Twitch streamer. Surely he'd have more likes than Lex by the end of his first week (or first 1,000 buyins lost... whichever comes first)

Paisting. What sites are you currently playing on? When are you playing next? (what time zone are you living in?) TIA

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58429618#post58429618)

Paisting would obviously be a HUGE winner if he chose to use the 'all-in Cashout Feature' on GG, Stars, Partypoker & SportsBetting. Has anyone told him about this? Also, he should start up a Youtube channel & become a Twitch streamer. Surely he'd have more likes than Lex by the end of his first week (or first 1,000 buyins lost... whichever comes first)

Everything was told or suggested at some point, but he's not taking any advice because he's the smartest.

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58429624#post58429624)

Paisting. What sites are you currently playing on? When are you playing next? (what time zone are you living in?) TIA

888 trying to cut suckouts on nl10. Most of the days with different time of day.

by treetop21 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58428624#post58428624)

It's up to OP as this point. Paisting what are your thoughts?

Document is interesting thing. But if we think why Paisting is so popular, more popular than many big winners is that he is mysterious faceless guy with huge attitude and massive persistence to play years after years same small stakes. If we think like Isildur he was huge success and everyone was talking about him. One of the biggest miracles ever. Now when he’s normal Victor with face that everyone knows he’s just boring like hell. Last time someone even mentioned him was me just here. And if we think Bert from basement, sad lonely guy smoking cigarettes and singing 70’s soul like bad karaoke winning 3 million I’m getting more mentions. If he were just Giraf faceless guy who wins 3 million everyone would talk nothing else but him. Paisting is mystery.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58430244#post58430244)

Document is interesting thing. But if we think why Paisting is so popular, more popular than many big winners is that he is mysterious faceless guy with huge attitude and massive persistence to play years after years same small stakes.If we think like Isildur he was huge success and everyone was talking about him. One of the biggest miracles ever. Now when he’s normal Vic... See full post

you can't argue with that! Paisting, the reason you are known has nothing to do with your anonymity. if Isildur still played cards vs only the best opponents in the world like he did when he got famous, he'd still be the hottest thing in poker (he barely plays at all these days).

"Last time someone even mentioned him was me just here." One of the funniest sentences I've ever seen in print.

by Redsoxnets5 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58432725#post58432725)

"Last time someone even mentioned him was me just here." One of the funniest sentences I've ever seen in print.

You understand my point very well. No Isildur hype anymore. Just boring guy on live tournaments. Without revealing his identity things could been different.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58430244#post58430244)

Document is interesting thing. But if we think why Paisting is so popular, more popular than many big winners is that he is mysterious faceless guy with huge attitude and massive persistence to play years after years same small stakes.If we think like Isildur he was huge success and everyone was talking about him. One of the biggest miracles ever. Now when he’s normal Victor wi... See full post

You really are buddy...

by max3602 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58416394#post58416394)

I just saw this thread and couldn't believe my eyes. Dude, do you have a job, family? Why are you torturing yourself? Even if $8k a year isn’t a lot of money for you, it’s hellish to lose all the time.

Haven't been here in two years. Still opining for attention I see. Tis too much for moi as well. I would cash out anything left on sites, and couch potato TV for a year or two.

paisting what are your thoughts on trying out PLO

by redwhirl m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58440131#post58440131)

paisting what are your thoughts on trying out PLO

Pure lottery game. People calling with any **** they have and when there's pot limit you can't push them away from pot and usually they suck out. Only good thing is site that allows no look all in. Usually stubborn whale with 100% vpip finds fold button when punishing his brainless calling putting some all ins to his face. But not my game, if it's hard to make money with small stakes no limit you can be sure it's impossible on plo.

Yo @Paisting how was january for you?

really disaster?

by tjobim m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58446165#post58446165)

Yo @Paisting how was january for you?

First winning month must have caused his body to enter a catatonic state

hey paisting do u have a real job

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58440754#post58440754)

But not my game, if it's hard to make money with small stakes no limit you can be sure it's impossible on plo.

Well at least you're self aware! lol

january results pls

too broke for internets

2024 brought an end to the 'whale suckouts'. Paisting now, after a 4 week sun run not seen since the glory days of xblink, finally proven right on all points and sitting on his boat on the med sea sipping a cool beer counting his cash.

Not good start at all for this year. Games went quite well at the beginning of month and I managed to keep graph steady. Then 14th day of month suckouts started, there was zero before it and every hand holded like it should. Then things changed and I started to lose like picture shows huge amount of 80% equity hands. Thing that keeps repeating itself. Let's take that T7s hand. Against stubborn whale I had 2 pair on turn, I got whale all in with AQ just Q on flop and surprise surprise queen on river. That is 100% hoax to keep those whales on games. That is something that is not normal. Those hands alone should be making me 200-300 dollars per month and broke those whales in 1 session. But as you can see, years after years I lose this amount of those hands. And when you say "but you run above ev" keep in mind those months I run hundreds of buy ins below ev. You forget those really quickly. And when you look that graph after suckouting started at 14th day of month it affected drastically to whole month. Good thing was I revealed one cheater. Player called kox44x used some kind of cheating program, real time solver or something like that. He took 100 dollars from me and went to investigation. Second thing I got private messages about been on Eastyy's stream. Annoying British streamer that i've mentioned earlier. He got again orgasm when I appeared his screen and then the whole chat was just talking about me. Someone has copypasted what i've told about outplaying him in that one session before. One guy send me private message and said that Eastyy had looked those hands from that session and I've made up whole thing. That guy is making money from that site and is riding with my fame and talking that kind of bullcrap. He should be aware that if I send single one email his career is over if I want so. I'm curious to hear what that guy is doing during his streams. But now we know that is the goal for this month. Get to back this years starting point.

Hello, I just created the account to ask how did you know about this cheater kox44x. I read the name and I was shocked because I 100% agree. I played that pool since September roughly and he was a very weak player, by the way he played I think he just tilted a lot or got tired of losing idk but he lost like 10 buyins to me. Then one day suddenly his play completely changed overnight, he started 3betting solid, checkraising solid etc. At first I thought maybe more than one person was using that account, but then I told myself maybe he is just improving. But his frequencies got completely solid overnight and I cant imagine someone improving their game so fast, even though I think he still tilted sometime but I just didnt get any message from 888. How did you hear about this? Did you get compensated? I think its a serious threat to the game. Rather than that I just wish you the best Paisting.

by buobuobuobuo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58449993#post58449993)

Hello, I just created the account to ask how did you know about this cheater kox44x. I read the name and I was shocked because I 100% agree. I played that pool since September roughly and he was a very weak player, by the way he played I think he just tilted a lot or got tired of losing idk but he lost like 10 buyins to me. Then one day suddenly his play completely changed ove... See full post

Exactly same things I reported to support. Overnight change and then total different playing style, exact same timings when bet folded. Account is from Ukraine. And that might be true that there are multiple players on same account but definitely cheating.

I wasnt sus of him cheating tbh. And I didnt even care that much because even if he is cheating he kept on losing and I could destroy the tables anyways. Its just that when I read his name my mind clicked and it kind of makes sense.

In my sample he is breaking even while on the same sample my graph has an astronomical red line

I dont know if in his pre-cheating period he was particularly punting or tilted against me or what. Im also kind of curious how you noticed. I like to study my opponents, but when you are at the tables I only see you 3betshoving on me.

every hand holded like it should

There you go, thats is the core of your problem. It shouldnt.

by buobuobuobuo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58450088#post58450088)

Im also kind of curious how you noticed

Combining things you've noticed about him and timing tells. I don't wanna tell more about those timing tells because I have lots of videos in case sites won't block those kind of cheaters to send them to authorities for investigate. But we talk about exact timing tells and every 3 times I've refunded playing against cheater those timing tells are the same. That makes me think there is some program what they use on those smaller limits. by 6betpot m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58452023#post58452023)

There you go, thats is the core of your problem. It shouldnt.

Check graph again when suckouting starts. Check also earlier graph with and without suckouts.

Eastyy is a fish and pretty terrible. It's entertaining watching him lose, but he's definitely not decent.

Eastyy is a fish and pretty terrible.

If I'm not mistaken he is beating nl10 over a large sample which makes him in the top 5% or so. It might not be a cool statement but the reality is the fast majority of players at any stakes are not beating the game and beating any stake even for a small win rate is a pretty decent accomplishment. Check graph again when suckouting starts. Check also earlier graph with and without suckouts.

When one or more suckouts happen you become a mental wrack which is causing an unreasonable large loss rate.

no way people discussing a nl2 player using rta in here

by retired3 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58467027#post58467027)

no way people discussing a nl2 player using rta in here

It's nl10 and his winrate is absurd high combined with exact same timings when check, fold, check call etc. 888 is investigating his play at the moment.

888 should investigate your play, imo.

It's interesting that Paisting thinks some guy is winning because of RTA. Shouldn't suckouts destroy that guy because he's playing so well?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58468580#post58468580)

It's nl10 and his winrate is absurd high combined with exact same timings when check, fold, check call etc. 888 is investigating his play at the moment.

he probably is indeed using RTA but it should make you think about why you lose and if u really wanna try to win at this game or do something else more useful or more enjoyable with the only life you have

Still entertaining this dude? I don't get it. Paisting is mystery might be the dumbest **** I have ever read. There's nothing mysterious here. Just unoriginal punting and hoping one day to blow up. You would do better to do this with shorts on YT because noone cares about 2p2. Kinda beating the dead horse around here, no?

by swerbs22 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58468738#post58468738)

You would do better to do this with shorts on YT because noone cares about 2p2. Kinda beating the dead horse around here, no?

Only 6 blogs have more views than this. One of the most popular blogs on biggest poker related site ever. Not so bad achievement at all. Many have tried but not succeeded.

by heat555 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58468711#post58468711)

It's interesting that Paisting thinks some guy is winning because of RTA. Shouldn't suckouts destroy that guy because he's playing so well?

There actually is a form of cheating that'll make you run above EV according to any tracker. More significantly so in PLO. It's not RTA because that just unfairly improves decision making and doesn't affect luck, and it doesn't require a superuser account or super hacker levels of cheating. I'm of course talking about colluding with other players and sharing hole card info. Has this accusation been thrown around yet? Or is it too realistic and believable compared to larger and deeper conspiracies?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58468746#post58468746)

Only 6 blogs have more views than this. One of the most popular blogs on biggest poker related site ever. Not so bad achievement at all. Many have tried but not succeeded.

What kind of kickbacks are you getting back from 2p2 for that viewership? I don't see much of an achievement tbh. It is interesting to look at a massive punter but what else is there? Nothing. Tomorrow I can expect the exact same from you and know it will come. If you took some interesting hands and put them in shorts like Wolfgang poker or whatever then included your graphs you probably can become quite popular outside of 2p2. The very least it would help sustain your BR lol

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58419783#post58419783)

he's been offered coaching several times and he's been told to stream on twitch in order to make money. he doesn't want to do either, it seems. he did record a webcam session of him playing a few years ago which he uploaded to youtube, but it's been taken down.poker isn't about winning money anyway. it's about punishing whales and late position raisers as well as proving to eve... See full post

I don't see how he thinks 2p2 is on the same level as YT or twitch for notoriety.

Played today. This is what I'm talking about. Brainless whales limping. These idiots should give me hundreds of money and I should bet bet bet their all money in 5 minutes. But site won't let that happen. Even when he calls with absolute garbage he wins. As you can see I run over these players because there is zero good player on that pool. I've posted these hands years after years and you still say I'm making this up. And combined with 12x lose with 50% equity you can think how much those sessions go down. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players cusnirdenis8 (UTG): $18.11 (181 bb) Zizishaways (MP): $4.08 (41 bb) Paisting (CO): $19.14 (191 bb) JackDimond (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) BedeAA (SB): $10.49 (105 bb) APARECIDOG (BB): $4.04 (40 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with 9♥ A♥ cusnirdenis8 (UTG) calls $0.10, Zizishaways (MP) calls $0.10, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.60, 3 players fold, cusnirdenis8 (UTG) calls $0.50, Zizishaways (MP) calls $0.50 Flop: ($1.95) 9♣ 7♦ 9♠ (3 players) cusnirdenis8 (UTG) checks, Zizishaways (MP) bets $3.48 (all-in), Paisting (CO) calls $3.48, cusnirdenis8 (UTG) folds Turn: ($8.91) T♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($8.91) 8♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $8.91 (Rake: $0.45) Showdown: Zizishaways (MP) shows J♠ A♦ (a straight, Seven to Jack) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 2%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) Paisting (CO) shows 9♥ A♥ (three of a kind, Nines) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 98%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) Zizishaways (MP) wins $8.46

AJ is better than A9, justly win for Zizi

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58470200#post58470200)

AJ is better than A9, justly win for Zizi

98% learn game

100% for him on river. Fold river.

Since you already know the game is rigged against you, your implied equity is 0% learn game.

this is so sad .....

by puntmeister m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58470483#post58470483)

this is so sad .....

It became very hilarious when you scroll down this topic and see these same guys with now total nonsense comments talking about how it's impossible to cheat online or see other players cards. What happened on GG is something that I've been talking about for years. Also the nonsense comes from that fact those suckouts are so absurd and keeps happening years after years. They see that there is something going on that look really not normal variance but they can't admit that because of strong denialism for years. They have no ability to say that I've been right all the time.

Have you tried playing live poker?

have u tried moving up in stakes paisting?

It's not impossible to cheat online, but none of the cheats has ever involved any suckouts.

by Tuma m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58471442#post58471442)

Have you tried playing live poker?

Never. And never going to. It’s something that won’t interest at all. One time I won seat to live tournament from freeroll but didn’t go there.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58471433#post58471433)

It became very hilarious when you scroll down this topic and see these same guys with now total nonsense comments talking about how it's impossible to cheat online or see other players cards. What happened on GG is something that I've been talking about for years. Also the nonsense comes from that fact those suckouts are so absurd and keeps happening years after years. They see... See full post

Funny coming from a dude that thinks after loosing seven figures to the smallest games possible in ev. Can't admit he is the biggest idiot ever played cards. And for some reason keeps doing that. I mean you know that saying fool me once... You are like a walking atm for sites and others players. Any other human with a brain would stop playing if they feel getting cheated but you are not. You are the biggest idiot for sure.

by ImePaskaa m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58472145#post58472145)

Can't admit he is the biggest idiot ever played cards.

This is the thread title:

Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

He knows and trolls this thread for the lolz

by redwhirl m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58471495#post58471495)

have u tried moving up in stakes paisting?

As suggested testing yes.

GL on the tables!

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58478438#post58478438)

GL on the tables!

Thanks, although luck in those games is mainly aimed for starting out whales with massive limp call stats. Even 98% equity is not enough when site wants people keep playing.

February over and with huge rollercoaster. Everything started to go wrong at the beginning of month with massive suckouts, then seemed like you're getting something back before huge drop. I confronted my biggest equity loss during my almost 20 years in poker history with 98& equity. 1x 98% equity loss 6x 80-90% equity loss 8x 70-80% equity loss The lower ones like 65-70% are usually with better ace against worst ace. I think those are really massive losses because with my skill level I make them play bad, I outplay them badly to call all ins with worst ace like one or two kicker worst ace. Biggest mistakes you can make in no limit holdem and still they win. The more whale stats they have, the more they limp call and the fewer hands they have on site, the more they win with absolute ridiculous suckouts.

Paisting, this is your 4th month in a row of running above expectation, isn't it? What is your secret to being so lucky?

by jollibee m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58481319#post58481319)

ur downswing is never going to end because it is same as you putting money to a slot machine you have a mental problem get help

What are you talking about? Do you see I lost hand where I had 98% equity and ****ing massive ******ed whale had 2%. How many times you see in these topics that people lose with 98% equity? Do you understand what game is this we are talking about? Do you understand what 98% equity means?

by Tappy Tibbons m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58481360#post58481360)

Paisting, this is your 4th month in a row of running above expectation, isn't it? What is your secret to being so lucky?

What's is in your brain that you won't see that I lose every month more to suckouts than any else can show? Now there was 22 suckouts in 10k hands. Over 100 buy ins below ev in one year was just some bug in software for you. Now I show you in every month that I lost 30 buy ins with best hand and also with almost 100% equity to whales. I think that your denialism is stating to go to end.

What is your overall win/loss ratio when flipping with 98% AI equity? Can you check that out in your database?

by 1kSuns m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58481502#post58481502)

What is your overall win/loss ratio when flipping with 98% AI equity? Can you check that out in your database?

2 post makes you just Eastyy or that another annoying british arrogant Mark or whatever I don't remember his nickname. Both got massive amount from sites to promote. But really 98% equity, it's something that Doug Polk needs to talk about.

So toxic... Why is it a problem to post the ratio? Is it because it actually shows you win your fair share?

Your net profit from all suckouts is +$50 in your favour though

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58481426#post58481426)

What's is in your brain that you won't see that I lose every month more to suckouts than any else can show?=

Your graphs for the last few months show that you are winning more due to suckouts (or, more accurately, losing less) than losing. Your graphs show that you are losing money due to poor play, not suckouts. Also, 98% < 100%. Yes, sometimes (2% of the time) people lose with 98% equity - you're really lucky that this is the first time it's happened to you with all the years you've been playing (It's happened to me at least 3 times that I remember).

by 1kSuns m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58481530#post58481530)

So toxic... Why is it a problem to post the ratio? Is it because it actually shows you win your fair share?

Because Eastyy is whale. Just look his streams. His open size is ridiculous low. He opens, 3 people call. He checks and even half brain caller understand to bluff bet and Eastyy fold. First poker book ever written says " you wanna bet maximum they call". Eastyy is bread and butter. Second check how much he folds to river bets. 85% river bets and all are bluffs on 888, Eastyy makes just absolutely idiot folds on river. And third, everythime he checks on draw heavy board just push all in he folds. If this is normal whale I don't say anything but he is promoted player from 888. That means he got money from that site. When I outplay him that is my bread and butter against him he get money from site. And his promoting pc tables. Pro tip, mac software is not updated so you have significant equity to play with not forced avatars.

Who can chat with me here now? I want to play more poker. Either build a bankroll online in .05/.10 ---or just keep going to casino and play 1/2 NL. In the latter case I should have a bankroll of $5000 to $10000. Or should I start lower and grind online for awhile and try to get a $500 bankroll up to $5000 - $10000 and then go to casino again. Thanks.

this is not the hijack this thread deserves

Paisting what a lucky idiot you are - again running unbelievable high over EV Biggest idiot has all the luck

Here you go paisting. this is for you https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp... (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=58482023&postcount=1) Dont come back until you and the AI can beat Linus HU pls.

each month now we're getting some good breakeven/winning before an unavoidable downturn. maybe a winning month is on the way.

by Tuma m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58482311#post58482311)

each month now we're getting some good breakeven/winning before an unavoidable downturn. maybe a winning month is on the way.

If there is month without or with just few suckouts winning month is definitely possible. The player pool is full of whales. They are worst than couple of years ago and now when tested other sites too the pool of 888 is more whales than any other site. My screen blinking green when every one has whale tag. I literally run them over almost in every hand. They bet small I bet big and take their money. Only thing keeps them not to lose all money is suckouts. If I keep losing hands with 98% equity you can be sure there is no winning months.

by Kendoo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58482012#post58482012)

Paisting what a lucky idiot you are - again running unbelievable high over EV Biggest idiot has all the luck

It's unbelievable how lucky he is, some people would pay to run like him (not in life).

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58481585#post58481585)

Because Eastyy is whale. Just look his streams. His open size is ridiculous low. He opens, 3 people call. He checks and even half brain caller understand to bluff bet and Eastyy fold. First poker book ever written says " you wanna bet maximum they call". Eastyy is bread and butter.Second check how much he folds to river bets. 85% river bets and all are bluffs on 888, Eastyy mak... See full post

U should take Eastyy and all the [emoji229] like him on a journey...and punish them on random rivers! Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk

by disident m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58484342#post58484342)

U should take Eastyy and all the [emoji229] like him on a journey...

You know what does when I enter in pool and he has stream on? He’s out in 20 minutes or faster with absolute ridiculous excuses. This has happened many times and at first I didn’t even knew he was streaming. And if we think why so it’s really obvious that he can’t take the humiliation where I can put him. I post every bluff and outplay to my topic. I put him play lots of big pots he won’t like to play. I make him look stupid and he knows that. He’s marketing those games and losing to Paisting is not looking really good. That’s why those sessions where I’m in are really short.

I make him look stupid and he knows that

Can you post the hero vs villain results vs him? I'm curious to see how much you crush him.

Again, 95% equity not enough. Against total whale. How many you got these per month? 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Tr7777777 (UTG): $8.38 (84 bb) Paisting (MP): $10.25 (103 bb) braywa777 (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) kox44x (BU): $19.69 (197 bb) lolahoy (SB): $3.93 (39 bb) song4sunset (BB): $10.65 (107 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is MP with 3♠ 3♣ Tr7777777 (UTG) calls $0.10, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.50, 2 players fold, lolahoy (SB) calls $0.45, 1 fold, Tr7777777 (UTG) calls $0.40 Flop: ($1.60) 3♦ 2♣ 4♦ (3 players) lolahoy (SB) bets $1.05, Tr7777777 (UTG) folds, Paisting (MP) raises to $9.75 (all-in), lolahoy (SB) calls $2.38 (all-in) Turn: ($8.46) 6♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($8.46) 5♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $8.46 (Rake: $0.42) Showdown: Paisting (MP) shows 3♠ 3♣ (a straight, Two to Six) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 51%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 95%, River: 50%) lolahoy (SB) shows J♥ Q♦ (a straight, Two to Six) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 49%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 5%, River: 50%) Paisting (MP) wins $4.02 lolahoy (SB) wins $4.02

Let us know when you loose a 100% equity hand [emoji28]

by FlorinMC m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58488197#post58488197)

Let us know when you loose a 100% equity hand [emoji28]

I think that 98% was practical 100%. People are calling with absolut nothing on those boards but still they win.

well, thats actually the first time i see a villain play a hand worse than paisting

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58488362#post58488362)

well, thats actually the first time i see a villain play a hand worse than paisting

That playing style is called ”shitting in pants”. You multiply your mistakes until all your moves you make are mistakes. First desperate call, then when you understand you have nothing desperate shitting in pants bet and then after I literally open my cards you still make desperate call. As you can see all moves are desperate. And why? Because I run those players over. They can only play defensive and more they go defensive the more I run them over. Skalansky wrote about how poker is winning mistakes game. I won it by 100-0 but still losing money. When 888 player pool is so poor and worst that you can find it’s little bit hilarious when you compare it to GG’s. On 888 you have at normal days like 40 players in pool maximum but on GG there are 400 players. When comparing stats where there is blinking green whales on 888 with massive whale stats, the majority of GG pool are nits. Nits playing against nits when there are huge whale pool on other way. And you can’t even use hud on GG. People are strange.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58488454#post58488454)

Skalansky wrote about how poker is winning mistakes game. I won it by 100-0 but still losing money.

Ask Sklansky if he thinks that 98 = 100

by Tappy Tibbons m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58488978#post58488978)

Ask Sklansky if he thinks that 98 = 100

My respect for Skalansky is not so good at the moment because he suggest and teaches limping in his new book.

Imagine being that stupid to moan about losing 39bbs at NL10 after being down six figures at the smallest games possible. It's so sad you are breaking the only good thing you had going : I will never play higher than N2. You are so stupid.

by ImePaskaa m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58489566#post58489566)

Imagine being that stupid to moan about losing 39bbs at NL10 after being down six figures at the smallest games possible. It's so sad you are breaking the only good thing you had going : I will never play higher than N2. You are so stupid.

Of all the good advice he's ignored over the years, the one piece of "advice" he actually listed to was "move up to where they respect your raises"

Mr. Manson sums up this thread quite well: "I make the money, man! I rule the nicke... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL4C_RXVGJM&t=115s)

by ImePaskaa m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58489566#post58489566)

Imagine being that stupid to moan about losing 39bbs at NL10 after being down six figures at the smallest games possible. It's so sad you are breaking the only good thing you had going : I will never play higher than N2. You are so stupid.

It's better if he wastes whatever he has on poker anyway, which gives him more free time to think about life choices.

by heat555 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58489639#post58489639)

It's better if he wastes whatever he has on poker anyway, which gives him more free time to think about life choices.

You keep these comments on where you don’t just comment anything about suckouts. Just remind for you my losses are significantly lower without those suckouts.

...still loses, taking "suck outs" out, you grow from -30bb/100 to what -10bb/100? What then, still losing; maybe even thinking about trying NL25 and losing the same amount of money in the end. You'd better really explore other life choices and just donate the monthly money into a quick 3hours 50NL/100NL sessions

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58489744#post58489744)

You keep these comments on where you don’t just comment anything about suckouts. Just remind for you my losses are significantly lower without those suckouts.

I lose 90-10 sometimes, just like you. But you know what else happens, I win 10-90, JUST LIKE YOU.

by heat555 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58489921#post58489921)

I lose 90-10 sometimes, just like you. But you know what else happens, I win 10-90, JUST LIKE YOU.

Paisting is the biggest sunrunner in 2p2

by FlorinMC m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58489901#post58489901)

...still loses, taking "suck outs" out, you grow from -30bb/100 to what -10bb/100? What then, still losing; maybe even thinking about trying NL25 and losing the same amount of money in the end. You'd better really explore other life choices and just donate the monthly money into a quick 3hours 50NL/100NL sessions

That 20bb that is generated with manipulated rng is massive equity to site. Do you know what is the amount of bb in black jack or roulette sites have that they make everyone lose? I can tell you it's significant lower.

by KHANYAY m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58489953#post58489953)

Paisting is the biggest sunrunner in 2p2

Only player that has under 200 buy ins EV graph ever. When you go to any other site people are asking ”Ooh my year was 25 buy ins below EV something is wrong”.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58490749#post58490749)

Only player that has under 200 buy ins EV graph ever. When you go to any other site people are asking ”Ooh my year was 25 buy ins below EV something is wrong”.

post a lifetime graph.

this thread.... I'm speechless. Horrified fascination. So many questions. Paisting mentions whales he plays against... Who are these whales and how much are they losing?! random point

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58488357#post58488357)

I think that 98% was practical 100%. People are calling with absolut nothing on those boards but still they win.

• actually, 98% and 100% are significantly different in practise, as with 100% you can't lose and with 98% you may lose. Not sure if that helps, but... It's just maths, it's counter-intuitive for many people. and a question: You seem to think that only you run this bad, that you run significantly worse than anyone else. So, specifically you run so bad. Now I ask: why would specifically you o fall players run this bad? Who or what mechanism of the universe has chosen you, and why?

by Keruli m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58493238#post58493238)

this thread.... I'm speechless. Horrified fascination. So many questions. Paisting mentions whales he plays against... Who are these whales and how much are they losing?!random point- actually, 98% and 100% are significantly different in practise, as with 100% you can't lose and with 98% you may lose. Not sure if that helps, but... It's just maths, it's counter-intuitive for ma... See full post

Best way to know what kind of players there are is to sit down 888 nl10 or nl5 snap tables and play couple of rounds. You're gonna find out very soon what kind of whales there are. You find lots of small betting against multiple players, therefore family pots with 3-4 players on flop. High steal frequency from late combined with high call to reraise. Also limp callers call on every flop and every turn if you won't bet all in on flop or turn. Like they limp and I put 7x raise in, got call and then I bet pot on flop. No matter what kind of flops they call 100%. Total impossible they hit on every board. And what comes to suckouts the amount I got those on every month is really high. I post this stuff to make people talk about why it is so. I have messages from many people who thinks it's really odd. I fact I got 3rd 95%+ equity hand loss again under really short time. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Banane8708 (UTG): $7.27 (73 bb) Paisting (MP): $19.14 (191 bb) SimonMoore (CO): $7.01 (70 bb) niisan (BU): $13.93 (139 bb) TXCTGR (SB): $19.42 (194 bb) Top_G_1 (BB): $9.85 (99 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is MP with A♥ 6♥ 1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, niisan (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 2 players fold, Paisting (MP) calls $0.80 Flop: ($2.55) 2♠ 3♠ 5♣ (2 players) Paisting (MP) checks, niisan (BU) bets $1.68, Paisting (MP) calls $1.68 Turn: ($5.91) 4♦ (2 players) Paisting (MP) bets $16.26 (all-in), niisan (BU) calls $11.05 (all-in) River: ($28.01) 6♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $28.01 (Rake: $1.40) Showdown: Paisting (MP) shows A♥ 6♥ (a straight, Two to Six) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 12%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 97%, River: 50%) niisan (BU) shows A♦ A♣ (a straight, Two to Six) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 88%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 3%, River: 50%) Paisting (MP) wins $13.31 niisan (BU) wins $13.30

Nice overbet shove donkey.

interesting - you didn't adress anything in my post except the question about whales, and your description of so-called whales is simply a description of normal players... hmm

by heat555 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58493797#post58493797)

Nice overbet shove donkey.

I knew what he had and board where those whales might have somehing they call massive shoves. And when I hand after hand lose where I totally own them in every aspect of game I think it's really relevant question does this site hoax me.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58493882#post58493882)

And when I hand after hand lose where I totally own them in every aspect of game

Maybe you should stick to playing only whales, instead of playing all those sharks who cause your EV graph to be below 0 every month.

by Keruli m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58493833#post58493833)

interesting - you didn't adress anything in my post except the question about whales, and your description of so-called whales is simply a description of normal players... hmm

The players on 888 6max SNAP 5nl & 10nl tables are not what I'd call 'normal players'. He did actually describe the tables there pretty well.

Actually, u didn't lost there ,u split it.Also he can't fold Aces there even if he thinks that u have all the sixes in the world after that shove in that stack to pot ratio. Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk

Paisting has to be the most balanced troll/mentally ill person i have ever seen, still cannot confidently say if its 20% trolling and 80% mental illness or the other way around

Hes trolling everyone here. Its impossible he believes he is just unlucky.. @Paistings: What makes you believe it will change next month?

Hes not a troll but a gambling addict with way too big ego. His perception is warped by self serving bias.

No way he is troll.He just don't want people to steal his blinds! Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk

@Paistings Gl in your grind! Can you show your graph after making your first post back in 2019

by roe jogan m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58499590#post58499590)

Paisting has to be the most balanced troll/mentally ill person i have ever seen, still cannot confidently say if its 20% trolling and 80% mental illness or the other way around

This x 10000000

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58481313#post58481313)

February over and with huge rollercoaster. Everything started to go wrong at the beginning of month with massive suckouts, then seemed like you're getting something back before huge drop. I confronted my biggest equity loss during my almost 20 years in poker history with 98& equity. 1x 98% equity loss 6x 80-90% equity loss 8x 70-80% equity loss

If I'm understanding things correctly you've only gotten 1 outtered once in 20 years (a 98% equity loss)? If you flop a set on someone and then get turn river quadded that's when you know it's getting really bad.

by walkby m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58506293#post58506293)

If I'm understanding things correctly you've only gotten 1 outtered once in 20 years (a 98% equity loss)?

888 needs to investigate why Paisting is so lucky - it sounds like their RNG is giving him an unfair advantage.

by walkby m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58506293#post58506293)

If I'm understanding things correctly you've only gotten 1 outtered once in 20 years (a 98% equity loss)? If you flop a set on someone and then get turn river quadded that's when you know it's getting really bad.

What you talk about 1 outtered? That massive whale had nothing on that flop. Shitted pants and site give him my money. by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58469659#post58469659)

Played today. This is what I'm talking abouti. Brainless whales limping. These idiots should give me hundreds of money and I should bet bet bet their all money in 5 minutes. But site won't let that happen. Even when he calls with absolute garbage he wins. As you can see I run over these players because there is zero good player on that pool. I've posted these hands years after... See full post

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58507761#post58507761)

What you talk about 1 outtered? That massive whale had nothing on that flop. Shitted pants and site give him my money.

Oh it wasn't a 1 outter, that's what came to my mind when you wrote 98% equity loss. Brutal beat man.

the only difference between losing when having 98% on the flop vs having ~98% with set over set on the turn, is that you should be much happier losing the 98% on the flop. if villain is willing to go all-in with no hand and virtually drawing dead, you should thank your lucky stars that you're playing such a bad opponent. every time someone goes all-in in this situation you should be jumping with joy, not begin shoving any two cards for a couple of hours due to tilt. to state the obvious: you're thinking about poker in the wrong way.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58507947#post58507947)

the only difference between losing when having 98% on the flop vs having ~98% with set over set on the turn, is that you should be much happier losing the 98% on the flop. if villain is willing to go all-in with no hand and virtually drawing dead, you should thank your lucky stars that you're playing such a bad opponent. every time someone goes all-in in this situation you shou... See full post

Are you first who finally starts to understand what's going on? I put them to play bad. I find myself many times in session where my equity is massive. But losing them all.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58493663#post58493663)

Best way to know what kind of players there are is to sit down 888 nl10 or nl5 snap tables and play couple of rounds. You're gonna find out very soon what kind of whales there are. You find lots of small betting against multiple players, therefore family pots with 3-4 players on flop. High steal frequency from late combined with high call to reraise. Also limp callers call on e... See full post

Long term you are losing money because of making massive errors like literally every decision point this hand. Pre,flop and turn are all massive mistakes costing you a ton of money. If you had an IQ over 50 you'd start working on the things like this which YOU CAN CONTROL. Unfortunately you are seriously mentally challenged, this thread has been running 5 years and you have learnt 0. I would seriously get yourself tested for intellectual disability.

by herbalerv m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58508709#post58508709)

Long term you are losing money because of making massive errors like literally every decision point this hand. Pre,flop and turn are all massive mistakes costing you a ton of money.

If we forget (and you did) one of the oldest Skalansky theorems that what happened earlier is not relevant anymore when you go all in with best equity. Check again that hand. 97% equity against guy with aces. In those games and against those whales betting smaller on turn is massive error and losing money because they passive call call. On turn they call always shove.

I mean even if that is true , it sounds like you are misunderstanding/misapplying it. Your EV line has never been above 0 for a single month of the 5 years you've posted here, why not share/analyse the hands where you get it in as an underdog to see if you can improve your play in any of those?

Lifetime graphs?

by OFA m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58514401#post58514401)

Lifetime graphs?

Lots of destroyed with old computer. There was Party Poker, Everest Poker and Europoker. Europoker was hoax site part of Ongame network that took my money what was on account when they closed down. I try to get those money many years but they all disappeared. Just like Everest.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58514513#post58514513)

Lots of destroyed with old computer. There was Party Poker, Everest Poker and Europoker. Europoker was hoax site part of Ongame network that took my money what was on account when they closed down. I try to get those money many years but they all disappeared. Just like Everest.

Can you post the graphs since starting this thread? Also, how old are you? What sort of career do you have?

professional poker player duh

really disaster?

March was the biggest suckouted month in long time and maybe the worst if we look how much 90%+ equity hands I lost on player pool with all whales and zero good player. 4x 90%+ equity loss (97%, 95%, 94%, 91%) 4x 80%-90% equity loss 7x 70-80% equity loss 6x 65-70% equity loss

I exploit them, run them over. They bet small, I bet big and put them call with worst. Still I lose. When there is session with no suckouts I take their money in 15 minutes. Bet bet and whale deposits more. Even tough this is suspicious more and more there's another thing. How is it possible that when worst of the worst are playing on 888 as you can see how that call with absolute bullshit there's only 20-30 players on pool. The maximum on weekends are like 50 but never like 100. When you go to GG there is 500 players almost everytime on pool. 500 nits playing against each other more preferably than playing on 888 against these total whales.

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players dollariul (UTG): $15.65 (157 bb) Elimc (MP): $22.73 (227 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) Sparvinho (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) ExtraGroot (SB): $14.18 (142 bb) Derm47 (BB): $4.00 (40 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with Q♣ K♣ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, Derm47 (BB) calls $0.30 Flop: ($0.85) J♣ 8♣ K♦ (2 players) Derm47 (BB) bets $0.42, Paisting (CO) raises to $1.68, Derm47 (BB) raises to $3.60 (all-in), Paisting (CO) calls $1.92 Turn: ($8.05) A♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($8.05) 4♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $8.05 (Rake: $0.45) Showdown: Derm47 (BB) shows A♥ 6♥ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 6%, Turn: 61%, River: 100%) Paisting (CO) shows Q♣ K♣ (a pair of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 94%, Turn: 39%, River: 0%) Derm47 (BB) wins $7.60 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 4 players dodeer (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.35 (104 bb) kox44x (SB): $27.34 (273 bb) Eddy_114 (BB): $9.45 (95 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with T♦ Q♦ dodeer (UTG) raises to $0.25, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $1.40, 1 fold, Eddy_114 (BB) calls $1.30, 1 fold Flop: ($3.10) J♦ A♦ J♥ (2 players) Eddy_114 (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $2.32, Eddy_114 (BB) calls $2.32 Turn: ($7.74) 5♦ (2 players) Eddy_114 (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $6.63 (all-in), Eddy_114 (BB) calls $5.73 (all-in) River: ($19.20) A♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $19.20 (Rake: $1.08) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows T♦ Q♦ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) Eddy_114 (BB) shows A♥ 8♥ (a full house, Aces full of Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 58%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) Eddy_114 (BB) wins $18.12 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 3 players kox44x (BU): $10.05 (101 bb) Paisting (SB): $9.60 (96 bb) Kras1975 (BB): $15.43 (154 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with J♠ K♣ 1 fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.40, Kras1975 (BB) calls $0.30 Flop: ($0.80) T♦ 4♦ 6♦ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $0.60, Kras1975 (BB) calls $0.60 Turn: ($2) J♥ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $8.60 (all-in), Kras1975 (BB) calls $8.60 River: ($19.20) 8♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $19.20 (Rake: $0.96) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows J♠ K♣ (a pair of Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 89%, River: 0%) Kras1975 (BB) shows T♣ 8♥ (two pair, Tens and Eights) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 11%, River: 100%) Kras1975 (BB) wins $18.24

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58520705#post58520705)

Bet bet and whale deposits more.

Yes, you do.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58520705#post58520705)

4x 90%+ equity loss (97%, 95%, 94%, 91%) 4x 80%-90% equity loss 7x 70-80% equity loss 6x 65-70% equity loss

21 bad beats in 13292 hands. Only once in 628 hands you are unlucky. What a lucky fish you are, unbelievable. I hope I will be this lucky the next month.

Sad that the only good thing you had going on : I will not play higher than NL2 is a thing in the past. You sir truly are the biggest idiot in the history of this game.

First hand is funny, the rest is printing against you.

by heat555 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58521121#post58521121)

First hand is funny, the rest is printing against you.

Do you understand equities? Do you understand and see how I make those whales call turns? Do you understand how rare these amounts of suckouts are? I think you definitely don’t.

by ImePaskaa m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58521013#post58521013)

Sad that the only good thing you had going on : I will not play higher than NL2 is a thing in the past. You sir truly are the biggest idiot in the history of this game.

To be fair he seems to losing less at 10nl. There's no runs were he just literally punts 100 buyins going all in ever single hand. Now he seems to just be losing through regular, normal bad play.

by dogarse m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58521383#post58521383)

To be fair he seems to losing less at 10nl. There's no runs were he just literally punts 100 buyins going all in ever single hand. Now he seems to just be losing through regular, normal bad play.

True, but that's because he can't afford such a high loss rate on all limits higher than 10NL. If he could afford it, he would be sinking at least 10k USD every month and I am not even kidding.

. When you go to GG there is 500 players almost everytime on pool. 500 nits playing against each other more preferably than playing on 888 against these total whales. Very inaccurate assessment of GGPoker's player pool for Rush & Cash microstakes games. I typically play 25nl+ but sometimes I will hop on a few 10nl tables. GG's games are 'lively' to say the least. Makes me wonder if you actually played on there or if it's just your odd perception. fwiw, I'll also jump on some 10nl tables at 888 just in hopes of seeing you on there (&/or Easty) and will purposefully make some questionable preflop plays in hopes of sucking out on you, knowing how much you'll be tilting. Yah I know it's kinda shallow but so far I think it might even be +ev vs. you but if it's not, it's +ev for 'entertainment value'.c PS - I went looking for you the past few days but was disappointed when I couldn't find you on there. :(

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58521172#post58521172)

Do you understand equities? Do you understand and see how I make those whales call turns? Do you understand how rare these amounts of suckouts are? I think you definitely don’t.

Paisting, you're (probably) not talking to your gambling addict uncle, or whoever doesn't have a clue about equities. You might not know this after 10 years of using tracking softwares, but it's clearly visible on your graphs what you are up to. You lost like 100 stacks with ~zero equity, that is your issue, that's the culprit of your horrible lossrate. You were probably unlucky on the 30 times you somehow had the best hand, but you - as always - buried yourself with running 0 equity hands for 100s of big blinds.

by dogarse m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58521383#post58521383)

To be fair he seems to losing less at 10nl. There's no runs were he just literally punts 100 buyins going all in ever single hand. Now he seems to just be losing through regular, normal bad play.

Do you understand you are mentally ill?

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58521600#post58521600)

PS - I went looking for you the past few days but was disappointed when I couldn't find you on there. :(

Welfare payments in Finland are made 7th day of each month. This month it’s Sunday so they will be paid already on Friday. Best of luck!

too bad you've ran under EV, otherwise the month would be excellent!

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58520705#post58520705)

March was the biggest suckouted month in long time and maybe the worst if we look how much 90%+ equity hands I lost on player pool with all whales and zero good player. 4x 90%+ equity loss (97%, 95%, 94%, 91%) 4x 80%-90% equity loss 7x 70-80% equity loss 6x 65-70% equity loss

Your EV is -60/100 or sth and thats what you care about?

the more things change the more they stay the same

by TRUSTtheDRAWCESS m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58522253#post58522253)

the more things change the more they stay the same

Suckouts gone worst and worst. That's why I reveal every suckout every month. And this amount is something that no one else can show.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58522867#post58522867)

Suckouts gone worst and worst. That's why I reveal every suckout every month. And this amount is something that no one else can show.

you are stupid - everyone has these suckouts

by Kendoo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58522906#post58522906)

you are stupid - everyone has these suckouts

Show then. No one has yet.

Paisting, i heard all the whales ran away from you and moved to GG full ring games, your duty is to not let them escape

by blazar m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58522920#post58522920)

Paisting, i heard all the whales ran away from you and moved to GG full ring games, your duty is to not let them escape

P.S. I heard they moved to PartyPoker

by DeeKayBee m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58522922#post58522922)

P.S. I heard they moved to PartyPoker... See full post

All the whales were losing not less than -50BB per 100 hand before Paisting appeared in their life, now according to SmartHand they are breakeven players, some of them are even showing positive winrates

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58522907#post58522907)

Show then. No one has yet.

You are a mentally handicapped fish who steals money from the state - so keep your mouth shut and seek professional help

by Kendoo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58523298#post58523298)

You are a mentally handicapped fish who steals money from the state - so keep your mouth shut and seek professional help

Show me every month this anount of suckouts to prove what you are talking.

by Mike Femton m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58521865#post58521865)

Welfare payments in Finland are made 7th day of each month. This month it’s Sunday so they will be paid already on Friday. Best of luck!

Thanks Mike 😀

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58507761#post58507761)

What you talk about 1 outtered? That massive whale had nothing on that flop. Shitted pants and site give him my money.

Wrong. You gave him your money. Can we see a live video of you playing? by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58523378#post58523378)

Show me every month this anount of suckouts to prove what you are talking.

Your ev is -50, suckouts are not your problem.

by foxcatcher m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58527710#post58527710)

Wrong. You gave him your money.

Almost 100% equity and you write this kind bullcrap. You try to take peoples attention away from abnormal amount of suckouts. You are trolling or working to poker site.

why dont you just buy insurance against suckouts

by retired3 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58527897#post58527897)

why dont you just buy insurance against suckouts

There is no that kind of option on 888.

by retired3 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58527897#post58527897)

why dont you just buy insurance against suckouts

Because he likes to pretend his losses come from suckouts and not his terrible playstyle

Paisting the only line that matters on your graph of last month is the EV line, and it is -76 buy ins, simple as that.

Paistings, I recommend unchecking rebuying to max option box. IMO it would significantly improve your winrate and luck ofc

You lost 836 Dollar - all available poker money (welfare money from the state). If you would have run over EV you would have lost 836 Dollar as well (you would have played maybe 1000 hands more) It doesnt matter if you run 20bb under or 20bb over EV - you will lost all your available money every month (the only difference is if you can play 10k or 20k hands per month) You are a trainwreck - get professional help

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58527725#post58527725)

Almost 100% equity and you write this kind bullcrap. You try to take peoples attention away from abnormal amount of suckouts. You are trolling or working to poker site.

Again: Your ev is -50, suckouts are not your problem. I am waiting for a video of you playing.

by foxcatcher m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58527710#post58527710)

Wrong. You gave him your money. Can we see a live video of you playing? .

pfff as if Dude, you want to see him play. Go to the site and get on his tables. A bit simpler than him making videos for you, lol.

by Kendoo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58529082#post58529082)

You lost 836 Dollar - all available poker money (welfare money from the state).If you would have run over EV you would have lost 836 Dollar as well (you would have played maybe 1000 hands more)It doesnt matter if you run 20bb under or 20bb over EV - you will lost all your available money every month (the only difference is if you can play 10k or 20k hands per month)You are a tr... See full post

What's the purpose of your post? Does it make you feel better? Does it make you feel 'better than'? And why would you want OP to get better at poker? Or to lose less? Why do you choose to belittle them? It is not good for poker. I think you should get professional help... & I don't mean from a poker coach.

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58529940#post58529940)

What's the purpose of your post? Does it make you feel better? Does it make you feel 'better than'? And why would you want OP to get better at poker? Or to lose less? Why do you choose to belittle them? It is not good for poker. I think you should get professional help... & I don't mean from a poker coach.

Thanks so much for your hint!!!

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58529940#post58529940)

What's the purpose of your post? Does it make you feel better? Does it make you feel 'better than'? And why would you want OP to get better at poker? Or to lose less? Why do you choose to belittle them? It is not good for poker. I think you should get professional help... & I don't mean from a poker coach.

If you think a little bit you will see that my Statement is the truth. I don‘t think that paisting is clever enough to recognize this but at least I try to help him as the only thing he could do to get out of this trap is to quit poker and get help.

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58529940#post58529940)

What's the purpose of your post? Does it make you feel better? Does it make you feel 'better than'? And why would you want OP to get better at poker? Or to lose less? Why do you choose to belittle them? It is not good for poker. I think you should get professional help... & I don't mean from a poker coach.

Paisting is way beyond being some fish that we want to be nice to and keep because he's good for the game. He's either mentally disturbed or mentally disabled and the only ethical course of action at this point is to either quit engaging with him and hope he quits or encourage him to seek mental health help. This is not a normal whale we are dealing with here imo. This is someone with something going on. I agree we shouldn't belittle him. But when I first read this thread in 2020 I thought it was hilarious. Now I think it's really sad and I hope we're not all laughing at someone with down syndrome or schizophrenia or some other debilitating ailment

by bigdave2304 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58530030#post58530030)

Paisting is way beyond being some fish that we want to be nice to and keep because he's good for the game. He's either mentally disturbed or mentally disabled and the only ethical course of action at this point is to either quit engaging with him and hope he quits or encourage him to seek mental health help. This is not a normal whale we are dealing with here imo. This is someo... See full post

Paisting is crusher. Variance can be brutal and 20 year downswings are quite normal.

by bigdave2304 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58530030#post58530030)

Paisting is way beyond being some fish that we want to be nice to and keep because he's good for the game. He's either mentally disturbed or mentally disabled and the only ethical course of action at this point is to either quit engaging with him and hope he quits or encourage him to seek mental health help. This is not a normal whale we are dealing with here imo. This is someo... See full post

Its for sure that paisting has some mental disability. It‘s not only the fact that he is the worst poker player ever but also his inability to look for faults in himself and his confused idea that others are worse poker players than himself. All of this coupled with his self-destructive way of gambling away his welfare money month after month and his paranoia that 888 poker intentionally causes him to lose shows that he urgently needs professional help.

by Kendoo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58530158#post58530158)

Its for sure that paisting has some mental disability. It‘s not only the fact that he is the worst poker player ever but also his inability to look for faults in himself and his confused idea that others are worse poker players than himself. All of this coupled with his self-destructive way of gambling away his welfare money month after month and his paranoia that 888 pok... See full post

Title incredibly misleading. Pretty sure he's low on the totem pole for $ lost. Even worse he thinks this thread is an accomplishment for reaching like 1mil views. Bruh Mr. Beast is getting 100mil views in one week.

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58529940#post58529940)

What's the purpose of your post? Does it make you feel better? Does it make you feel 'better than'? And why would you want OP to get better at poker? Or to lose less? Why do you choose to belittle them? It is not good for poker. I think you should get professional help... & I don't mean from a poker coach.

He's an incel who has posted in here under a few other usernames. His thing a couple years ago was to call paisting dumb bread or something like that. IIRC, one of his other usernames matched some online site of his, and he's a really small pipsqueak type, ie. exactly the type of person you'd expect to be making the type of posts he makes. He also had posts where he made fake graphs purporting to have a 15% roi on some site he refuses to mention (and ofc doesn't exist). So ya, therapy is definitely something he badly needs.

by VeniceMerchant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58530350#post58530350)

He's an incel who has posted in here under a few other usernames. His thing a couple years ago was to call paisting dumb bread or something like that. IIRC, one of his other usernames matched some online site of his, and he's a really small pipsqueak type, ie. exactly the type of person you'd expect to be making the type of posts he makes.He also had posts where he made fake gr... See full post

Thank you very much Dr merchant - lol Small pipsqueak type? Haha nice - do you know that a Psychological thesis says that when people insult strangers, they describe them as how you look or are by yourself. lol

As I've mentioned in here before, I played low level professional hockey. Not a lot of small guys in those leagues. Pls tell me about the psychology of insulting strangers as you've devoted a ton of your life to following Paisting's every move.

by VeniceMerchant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58530404#post58530404)

As I've mentioned in here before, I played low level professional hockey. Not a lot of small guys in those leagues. Pls tell me about the psychology of insulting strangers as you've devoted a ton of your life to following Paisting's every move.

Is it hockey for low level thinkers? hahaha

At least now you're punching up.

by VeniceMerchant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58530467#post58530467)

At least now you're punching up.

No - but I love chatting with such big and intelligent people like you - lol

by Kendoo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58531196#post58531196)

No - but I love chatting with such big and intelligent people like you - lol

Stfu micro trash

by BalticGuy m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58531454#post58531454)

Stfu micro trash

Try to stay friendly - it will get you further in life

Really quiet when I post these amounts of suckouts after year after month. I think that if this is so normal you post yours every month to this topic.

shows you nobody runs as bad as you, you are so unlucky man but things gonna change at one point right?

by DeeKayBee m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58528998#post58528998)

Paistings, I recommend unchecking rebuying to max option box. IMO it would significantly improve your winrate and luck ofc

😃 genius idea

NL2 only I don't want to think what the graphics would be like if we played together at the tables

by -XxX- m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58547146#post58547146)

NL2 onlyI don't want to think what the graphics would be like if we played together at the tables... See full post

But look how good you ran. You're like 25 BIs over EV.

by -XxX- m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58547146#post58547146)

NL2 onlyI don't want to think what the graphics would be like if we played together at the tables... See full post

Probably just sunrunning and variance. Sometimes the sites want the whales to win and punishes poker pros like paisting. Paisting knows that if you play another 500k hands you will probably be a big loser as you will begin to lose your 55/45’s sometimes (and if the site really hates you you will even lose 2-3 95/5 although this is mathematically impossible) PS Great graph!

by -XxX- m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58547146#post58547146)

NL2 onlyI don't want to think what the graphics would be like if we played together at the tables... See full post

What site is this? Regular tables or Zoom? 200k+ on NL2 is insane, move up man 😃

by foxcatcher m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58552093#post58552093)

What site is this? Regular tables or Zoom? 200k+ on NL2 is insane, move up man 😃

Regular tables 😀

by -XxX- m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58547146#post58547146)

NL2 onlyI don't want to think what the graphics would be like if we played together at the tables... See full post

lol 230,000 hands of NL2. solid beat, sir. what are you, ******ed?

I think he is playing bot style maybe with some cheating programs. I have made lots of reports about those players. Stats are something like 19/18 and they seem to raising like hell especially reraising. Everytime you go all in against them they have better or suckout. Especially players from Ukraine plays that style. I know how to trap them example with perfect balanced showes on turn but they are little bit annoying because stats won’t correlate their hands at all.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58552774#post58552774)

I think he is playing bot style maybe with some cheating programs. I have made lots of reports about those players. Stats are something like 19/18 and they seem to raising like hell especially reraising. Everytime you go all in against them they have better or suckout. Especially players from Ukraine plays that style. I know how to trap them example with perfect balanced showes... See full post

I think now everybody should see that paisting is a troll who is just fooling you all Case solved - shitty thread can be closed.

by Kendoo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58552814#post58552814)

I think now everybody should see that paisting is a troll who is just fooling you all Case solved - shitty thread can be closed.

Play 10% of that hand amount I have on nl2 and then we can talk poker.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58552913#post58552913)

Play 10% of that hand amount I have on nl2 and then we can talk poker.

Have 10% of my brain then we can talk

April is over and monthly graph + suckouts are here. Month started good but then going down like hell and when you once go down on 888 it's total impossible to go up. Over 200 dollars gone to whales when they suckout. I lost 21! times hand with over 70% equity. Hands with range 70-80% equity did lose 16 times, that's new record in that hand range. This month suckouts: 5x 80% equity losses 16x 70-80% equity losses 7x 65-70% equity losses

It's very clear that environment like this where the worst of the worst wins this much against you it's impossible to make profit. Give me month with no suckouts and I give you worst winning month. Worst suckout was this. Idiot reraised and made that idiot small bet mimicking some solver heads over small sizes on board where he has never ever nothing. I knew his exact holding and to prove this to all I wrote to chat before snap shoved against that whale

but no can do when site wants to keep these massive whales happy 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 6lirull (UTG): $19.04 (190 bb) 98adr98 (MP): $3.49 (35 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) BlauchBet (BU): $4.94 (49 bb) Greg5161 (SB): $14.62 (146 bb) TopPok (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with 6♥ A♥ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Greg5161 (SB) 3-bets to $1.60, 1 fold, Paisting (CO) calls $1.20 Flop: ($3.30) 6♠ 7♥ 5♣ (2 players) Greg5161 (SB) bets $1.65, Paisting (CO) raises to $8.40 (all-in), Greg5161 (SB) calls $6.75 Turn: ($20.10) Q♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.10) 9♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.10 (Rake: $1.01) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows 6♥ A♥ (a pair of Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) Greg5161 (SB) shows Q♣ A♠ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) Greg5161 (SB) wins $19.09

You lucky fish ran so much over EV…. unbelievable how many suckouts you must have had in your favor

10 years P. Maybe time for new hobby tbh.

by swerbs22 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58554658#post58554658)

10 years P. Maybe time for new hobby tbh.

I suggest PLO! Your suck out statistics will be much more impressive. 5x 80% equity losses can be achieved in under an hour on a somewhat typical day. Good (bad) luck, Paisting!

another 14 buyin above EV, how are you still so lucky?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58554617#post58554617)

Give me month with no suckouts and I give you worst winning month.

There is no such thing in poker - everyone who plays a minimal amount of hands will experience suckouts (both given and received). This is a game with an element of luck, and if you can't handle that, switch to chess.

Why is your graph missing 0 from -100 and lower. My first thought was that -55$ is a decent month but....

If you're getting it in ahead but constantly getting outdrawn (as you claim) then why aren't you taking the 'all-in cashout' feature? If you did, you'd be crushing it. fwiw, I was looking to boost my 888 roll for playing some 25nl SNAP tables so I dropped in on the 10nl games but was unable to find you :( What time (GMT) are you playing on there... and which days? same sn on 888 as on here

Riddle me this paisting. If you lose due to suckouts, why is your EV line going down? I dont think you are even able to understand the concept. Your graph shows you were the whale sucking out massively. You should have lost an additional 140$. I also had a good chuckle where the line goes straight down and you went complete shove monkey. But it's understandable since you had massive luck in the beginning of the month and then your terrible playstyle caught up to you. Must be brutal. Maybe try logging off before shoving any two and donating all your money to the player pool. All things considered it looks like a decent month for you. I think you can be proud of that result with whatever mental disability you are fighting. good luck at the tables

oh wow 10 years already congrats I guess?

by retired3 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58559707#post58559707)

oh wow 10 years already congrats I guess?

Thanks man! Topic is 10 years and one of the most views here. I've been playing like 20 years. Many donkeys that have made decent money and even played for living has gone. They said to me no one is playing smallest stakes 20 years and I said to them watch me. No they are gone and I'm here. Who is in the business and who is out? Tell me.

wat

Weird brag lol, congrats i guess?

Why wouldn't you try to improve after so many years? BvB you open 54s and Call BB's 3BET. Flop J97 rainbow You crai (100bb's eff.) Wtf? lol 3bai 100bb eff with J4s, KQs, etc. Tilt shoves constantly. Or ripping in 4x pot on the flop with TPGK

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58563484#post58563484)

Why wouldn't you try to improve after so many years?

Because she is mentally challenged idiot that loves the attention. No one would give her any attention is she actually tried to be a better player instead of dillusional moron. Imagine being that stupid you play games you think are rigged can't beat the whales for 20 years and think that is something to brag about? And being so salty against others who play the game 10-20k hands making a bankroll big enough to move up instead of wasting time in basically playmoney games lol.

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58563484#post58563484)

Why wouldn't you try to improve after so many years?

Just looked up your name from my database and you got that green mark? Do you know what it means?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58564076#post58564076)

Just looked up your name from my database and you got that green mark? Do you know what it means?... See full post

that he's a nit whale that has won a substantial amount of buy-ins from you. what's the score?

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58564090#post58564090)

that he's a nit whale that has won a substantial amount of buy-ins from you. what's the score?

I tag only whales. And green is the worst of the worst. Massive Whale.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58564098#post58564098)

I tag only whales. And green is the worst of the worst. Massive Whale.

disgusting! i bet he's lucky and sucks out all of the time too. how much have you lost to him?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58564098#post58564098)

I tag only whales. And green is the worst of the worst. Massive Whale.

I don't think you are mentally capable of classifying poker players

by Kendoo m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58564854#post58564854)

I don't think you are mentally capable of classifying poker players

If you look carefully you see green tag on that player stats.

No point in tagging players. Every colour means: "Better than me."

by heat555 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58565972#post58565972)

No point in tagging players. Every colour means: "Better than me."

I tag only whales. Look those hands where green tagged suckout. If you say those whales are better you really don’t even yourself understand what you write here.

Paisting, when is someone a whale according to you? How much do they have to be losing? On the public tracking sites i find this info: Paisting on 888 has a "winrate" of -600 over 10k hands Paisting on ACR has a "winrate" of -89 over 101k hands Do you find many players/whales at your tables with a lower "winrate"?

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58566014#post58566014)

Paisting, when is someone a whale according to you? How much do they have to be losing? On the public tracking sites i find this info: Paisting on 888 has a "winrate" of -600 over 10k hands Paisting on ACR has a "winrate" of -89 over 101k hands Do you find many players/whales at your tables with a lower "winrate"?

There is no any working tracking site to see cash games. Those are hoax and when you look from those russian sites you see that player you are looking has played last time months ago. Instant whale tag is limp-call-call-check or on reraised pot call-call also every time when 80% stealer 2x then calls massive reraise and calls flop.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58565991#post58565991)

I tag only whales. Look those hands where green tagged suckout. If you say those whales are better you really don’t even yourself understand what you write here.

Those whales are definitely at least twice as good as you. Winrates show you are the biggest whale ever.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58563103#post58563103)

Thanks man! Topic is 10 years and one of the most views here. I've been playing like 20 years. Many donkeys that have made decent money and even played for living has gone. They said to me no one is playing smallest stakes 20 years and I said to them watch me. No they are gone and I'm here. Who is in the business and who is out? Tell me.

I come on here just to read your blog to see if you are still blogging. So what is your estimated total results over last 20 years? What kind of work do you do for a living?

by bigdave2304 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58530030#post58530030)

Paisting is way beyond being some fish that we want to be nice to and keep because he's good for the game. He's either mentally disturbed or mentally disabled and the only ethical course of action at this point is to either quit engaging with him and hope he quits or encourage him to seek mental health help. This is not a normal whale we are dealing with here imo. This is someo... See full post

What if this is llinusllove trolling on 2+2 with this account for shiz and giggles. Either way he can't get better if he don't play right everyone? That is only way he can improve is playing. He will figure it out if he continues to play

by unsolvedmysteries m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58566484#post58566484)

I come on here just to read your blog to see if you are still blogging. So what is your estimated total results over last 20 years? What kind of work do you do for a living?

It's impossible to say what are the total results. Lots of hands from Party Poker, Everest and Ongame went with old computer when it crashed. Also there was money on Ongame site called Europoker that they never paid back. I tried really hard to contact that site supervisor with no results. This is what kind of people are in this industry. If you guy from Europoker read this with my money, keep in mind I won't forget it. You are nothing but criminal. Someday you will confront payback in your life.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58566906#post58566906)

It's impossible to say what are the total results. Lots of hands from Party Poker, Everest and Ongame went with old computer when it crashed. Also there was money on Ongame site called Europoker that they never paid back. I tried really hard to contact that site supervisor with no results. This is what kind of people are in this industry. If you guy from Europoker read this wit... See full post

i am sure you had s lot of money on this site as you crushed the games there…

He's lost about $250k over the last dozen years or so. Mostly at 2NL.

#variance

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58566933#post58566933)

#variance

I believe the correct narrative is that the poker sites' software prevents there from being any winners. It's rigged to collect rake, and Paisting plays everyday as a public service to all of us by proving this. Much like a martyr. It's pretty heroic. Is that right Paisting? Please correct me otherwise.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58566946#post58566946)

I believe the correct narrative is that the poker sites' software prevents there from being any winners. It's rigged to collect rake, and Paisting plays everyday as a public service to all of us by proving this. Much like a martyr. It's pretty heroic. Is that right Paisting? Please correct me otherwise.

This it what every poker site wants. They don’t want to whales lose their money quickly. Many poker author has talked about this. With manipulated rng it is really easy to achieve. I have contacted by software engineer with poker site history who wrote to me really detailed technical info how that is possible. And in fact it’s really easy to do and very hard to show proofs. But when more and more players confront this and understands what is going on we can do something about it.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58567085#post58567085)

This it what every poker site wants. They don’t want to whales lose their money quickly.

they must be doing a terrible job for you then

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58563103#post58563103)

Thanks man! Topic is 10 years and one of the most views here. I've been playing like 20 years. Many donkeys that have made decent money and even played for living has gone. They said to me no one is playing smallest stakes 20 years and I said to them watch me. No they are gone and I'm here. Who is in the business and who is out? Tell me.

They surely didn't say it was impossible to be broke for 20 years.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58554667#post58554667)

I suggest PLO! Your suck out statistics will be much more impressive. 5x 80% equity losses can be achieved in under an hour on a somewhat typical day. Good (bad) luck, Paisting!

As a long time PLO player this is both hilarious and accurate LOL.

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58569403#post58569403)

As a long time PLO player this is both hilarious and accurate LOL.

i flopped quads a few days ago. OP needed exactly the 4 of hearts on the turn and exactly the 6 of hearts on the river to win. he won (with a straight flush)! i may have awoken my neighbors with my laughter at how absurd it was. the previous day i had lost three 1 outers when AI on the turn in two hours (and a bunch of other ****). PLOL 😃 not once did entertain that the site was rigged... and if i did, i would have immediately stopped playing on the site.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58569459#post58569459)

i flopped quads a few days ago. OP needed exactly the 4 of hearts on the turn and exactly the 6 of hearts on the river to win. he won (with a straight flush)! i may have awoken my neighbors with my laughter at how absurd it was. the previous day i had lost three 1 outers when AI on the turn in two hours (and a bunch of other ****). PLOL 😃not once did entertain that the site wa... See full post

Sometimes you just have to laugh to stop from crying lol. Hopefully you were on GG and that triggered a bad beat jackpot at least. I've actually started to just take the cashout option on GG if I'm over 90% favourite. I can't handle the annoyance of seeing a 4 or 5 outer hit again on the river lol. But anyway, back to the topic of this thread. Paisting, please join the PLO community. Mashing the pot button is a commonly accepted practice, so you'll fit right in.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58554617#post58554617)

April is over and monthly graph + suckouts are here. Month started good but then going down like hell and when you once go down on 888 it's total impossible to go up. Over 200 dollars gone to whales when they suckout. I lost 21! times hand with over 70% equity. Hands with range 70-80% equity did lose 16 times, that's new record in that hand range.This month suckouts:5x 80% equi... See full post

So that accounts for around 20 buyins. How did you lose the other 35? by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58554617#post58554617)

Month started good

You ran over EV which is fine, but somewhat delusional to assume that was going to stay the case. by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58567085#post58567085)

This it what every poker site wants. They don’t want to whales lose their money quickly. Many poker author has talked about this. With manipulated rng it is really easy to achieve.

Poker sites like losing players who deposit more money when they lose, they also don't like winning players who cash out and leave but over and above both of those things they LOVE rake. Winning and losing players generate rake, so it is in their best interest to have enough shiny, flashy stuff to attract the whales who just love to play and deposit money as well as having enough whales and recs to keep the winning players playing. Your playing style piles up your losses, not variance. No competent player would lose the number of buyins you have at any limit and simply consider it bad luck, suckouts or the poker sites rigging the game. This has been said a thousand times in this thread. You are the whale the poker sites love. Go back to the first page of this thread and read some of your comments, like "I wish I could go back 10 years and never start playing this game". Here you are 5 years later, still chasing your loses having learned nothing. I wish you luck in finally removing yourself from this dreadful pursuit. Unfortunately I feel as though this is another one of the variance situations you so commonly reference. In this case your gambling addiction is sitting on 98% equity and you've got 1 out going to the river to finally get unstuck from this pursuit. That out is asking for help with your gambling addiction. I pray you hit that out and finally turn the tables on your roller coaster of "negative" EV.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58567085#post58567085)

This it what every poker site wants. They don’t want to whales lose their money quickly. Many poker author has talked about this. With manipulated rng it is really easy to achieve. I have contacted by software engineer with poker site history who wrote to me really detailed technical info how that is possible. And in fact it’s really easy to do and very hard to show proofs. But... See full post

Can you show the proof that it's easy to manipulate the rng? Otherwise, this is simply a lie.

by VeniceMerchant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58571556#post58571556)

Can you show the proof that it's easy to manipulate the rng? Otherwise, this is simply a lie.

Buddy, what site do you work for?

by VeniceMerchant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58571556#post58571556)

Can you show the proof that it's easy to manipulate the rng? Otherwise, this is simply a lie.

Its all simply coding. Nothing hard about changing the code to influence the results. The question is how much incentive is there for a site to do so given the most games have a rake cap and you lose all credibility if cheating is leaked. Somehow the truth always seems to come out and there is a long list of sites that are no longer around because of it. This is why you still try to play on a more reputable site with a history and some sort of integrity validation claim.

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58571737#post58571737)

here is a long list of sites that are no longer around because of it.

Really? A long list?

The world needs more Paisting's imo. Long live Paisting! I hope he wins the 888 XL Main Event!

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58571592#post58571592)

Buddy, what site do you work for?

Why would asking for proof of such a bold claim make you think I work for a site? I've played fulltime for a long time. I've never once thought that the sites were LOL skewed to keep whales going. by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58571737#post58571737)

Its all simply coding. Nothing hard about changing the code to influence the results. The question is how much incentive is there for a site to do so given the most games have a rake cap and you lose all credibility if cheating is leaked. Somehow the truth always seems to come out and there is a long list of sites that are no longer around because of it. This is why you still ... See full post

I agree with your points about the integrity, but disagree about changing the code. I'm sure the code could be changed, but you'd also have geeks who peruse the code of programs for fun that would eventually notice it. Especially if it was as bad as Paisting likes to dream it is.

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58572289#post58572289)

Really? A long list?

How about there are sites no longer around because of it.

by VeniceMerchant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58572608#post58572608)

I agree with your points about the integrity, but disagree about changing the code. I'm sure the code could be changed, but you'd also have geeks who peruse the code of programs for fun that would eventually notice it. Especially if it was as bad as Paisting likes to dream it is.

Wasn't making any reference to the fact that things aren't checked and double check by both internal and external sources. Simply stating that it is very possible to modify the RNG to do what you want if you really want too. Your point about people checking is one of the reasons that it makes little sense for a site to do so.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58571592#post58571592)

Buddy, what site do you work for?

Venice definitely works on some site. He's sending me private messages and I said him to stop this or he is on forever block list here. He is talking how he has some information from poker sites. Then he's trying to sneak what info I have. by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58571737#post58571737)

Its all simply coding. Nothing hard about changing the code to influence the results.

First time someone saying this out here. I'm not revealing any info what I have been told to me about technical side of this at this point. But let's imagine situation when cards are real random and 1 guy has 80% equity and other has 20% equity. What if we can do something that in fact coming cards are favouring guy with 20% equity and in real life he's having 60% equity and other 40% when cards coming to table. Or when gto guys talking about ranges and how different flops favour different ranges. What if we can do something about that flops favour always player with exact 2 cards or favour players range with playing behaviour. Like limp caller gets flops that favour more 2 random cards than 2 strong cards. Also you need to think about how these site rngs are checked. Have you people ever contacted eCOGRA or trying to contact them? I suggest you to do so because that is very interesting conversation. It's really hard to contact people from there who is even speaking anything and after many weeks investigation found them only they talk about was slot games rng. No single word about poker or testing sites. Remember I've been playing for years and I can show every month so much suckouts against worts of the worst players than no one else can show. It's really relevant to ask these questions.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58572810#post58572810)

First time someone saying this out here.

Likely not. Anyone who has done coding knows that you can influence a program you wrote. by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58572810#post58572810)

Remember I've been playing for years and I can show every month so much suckouts against worts of the worst players than no one else can show. It's really relevant to ask these questions.

Your playing style of overbetting pots to avoid being sucked out on leads other players to play a much wider range against you. This leads to situations where you are seeing the river no matter what instead of betting people off hands on the turn when they don't catch, bluffing them on the river, or being able to fold yourself. There is likely no one else out there losing the amount of buyins in a single session day after day after day and not realizing they have a problem. No one has every said that you aren't getting sucked out on in hands. The problem is you shove everything and hope for the best instead of playing poker. That is just insanity.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58566932#post58566932)

He's lost about $250k over the last dozen years or so. Mostly at 2NL.

😃 250k would be pretty insane to lose at 2nl.

by Poker_Orifice m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58572291#post58572291)

The world needs more Paisting's imo. Long live Paisting! I hope he wins the 888 XL Main Event!

Maybe on site with not manipulated rng. On this kind of environment totally impossible to get even ticket from satellite. 888Poker, $82 + $8 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (40 ante) - 8 players FRENTEXXy (UTG): 8,804 (22 bb) TheDWV (UTG+1): 18,826 (47 bb) Paisting (MP): 9,961 (25 bb) erSCky (MP+1): 16,205 (41 bb) Fishyfish23 (CO): 7,645 (19 bb) taknyormoney (BU): 1,302 (3 bb) Pleata76 (SB): 6,703 (17 bb) CARRAMROD (BB): 9,780 (24 bb) Pre-Flop: (920) Hero (Paisting) is MP with Q♥ Q♠ 2 players fold, Paisting (MP) raises to 1,000, 3 players fold, Pleata76 (SB) 3-bets to 3,000, 1 fold, Paisting (MP) 4-bets to 9,921 (all-in), Pleata76 (SB) calls 3,663 (all-in) Flop: (14,046) 3♣ 6♣ 4♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: (14,046) T♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: (14,046) A♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: 14,046 Showdown: Paisting (MP) shows Q♥ Q♠ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 85%, River: 0%) Pleata76 (SB) shows A♥ J♠ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 15%, River: 100%) Pleata76 (SB) wins 14,046

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58582255#post58582255)

Maybe on site with not manipulated rng. On this kind of environment totally impossible to get even ticket from satellite.888Poker, $82 + $8 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (40 ante) - 8 playersFRENTEXXy (UTG): 8,804 (22 bb)TheDWV (UTG+1): 18,826 (47 bb)Paisting (MP): 9,961 (25 bb)erSCky (MP+1): 16,205 (41 bb)Fishyfish23 (CO): 7,645 (19 bb)taknyormoney (BU): 1,302 (3 bb)... See full post

can someone with an account to a mining site see if he actually won a satellite to enter this tournament or if he paid the full $90? he's lied about tournament entries before. Paisting, how often do you believe you deserve to lose the quoted hand? genuine question.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58582279#post58582279)

Paisting, how often do you believe you deserve to lose the quoted hand? genuine question.

If we think how bad that whale shitted pants with that hand and it was exact river where he suckout combining with somewhat expensive buy in I must say in normal environment I should win that almost always. When he turned those cards up I knew I lose 100% sure. That software engineer contacted me said that those spots when it should be 70/30 or like usual suckouts 80/20 the real percentage are about making me 40% underdog in those spots.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58582285#post58582285)

If we think how bad that whale shitted pants with that hand and it was exact river where he suckout combining with somewhat expensive buy in I must say in normal environment I should win that almost always. When he turned those cards up I knew I lose 100% sure.That software engineer contacted me said that those spots when it should be 70/30 or like usual suckouts 80/20 the real... See full post

yes, the whales are truly shitting their pants when they run into you personally I think you are on the right track, you are just unlucky and downswinging. After another ten years you should know your true win rate

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58582285#post58582285)

If we think how bad that whale shitted pants with that hand and it was exact river where he suckout combining with somewhat expensive buy in I must say in normal environment I should win that almost always. When he turned those cards up I knew I lose 100% sure.That software engineer contacted me said that those spots when it should be 70/30 or like usual suckouts 80/20 the real... See full post

Year 20 of Paisting doesn't understand EV and elementary school level math.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58582285#post58582285)

That software engineer contacted me said that those spots when it should be 70/30 or like usual suckouts 80/20 the real percentage are about making me 40% underdog in those spots.

Is this the same guy who told you that you could sue people for identity theft if they misquote you on 2+2?

so a pokersite screws you over every day but at least they have the decency to make a software engineer contact you to tell you you are being screwed over... and you continue to play there

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58583060#post58583060)

so a pokersite screws you over every day but at least they have the decency to make a software engineer contact you to tell you you are being screwed over... and you continue to play there

He has worked in poker industry and to big company. He contacted me by himself. He’s biggest point was that when poker sites say that those rngs are well protected and regularly tested, that is not the truth.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58583184#post58583184)

He has worked in poker industry and to big company. He contacted me by himself. He’s biggest point was that when poker sites say that those rngs are well protected and regularly tested, that is not the truth.

But if you thought he was telling the truth you would stop playing there… right?

What we think about todays session 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Naldo35 (UTG): $29.58 (296 bb) retarusis14 (MP): $27.55 (276 bb) sfmoto (CO): $10.04 (100 bb) Bbgunn233242 (BU): $9.15 (92 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.15 (102 bb) chipittt (BB): $12.77 (128 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with 4♣ A♥ 3 players fold, Bbgunn233242 (BU) calls $0.10, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Bbgunn233242 (BU) calls $0.50 Flop: ($1.30) A♦ J♠ K♣ (2 players) Paisting (SB) checks, Bbgunn233242 (BU) bets $0.85, Paisting (SB) calls $0.85 Turn: ($3) A♣ (2 players) Paisting (SB) checks, Bbgunn233242 (BU) bets $7.70 (all-in), Paisting (SB) calls $7.70 River: ($18.40) Q♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $18.40 (Rake: $0.92) Showdown: Bbgunn233242 (BU) shows 8♦ T♠ (a straight, Ten to Ace) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) Paisting (SB) shows 4♣ A♥ (three of a kind, Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) Bbgunn233242 (BU) wins $17.48 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players retarusis14 (UTG): $27.93 (279 bb) braywa777 (MP): $19.28 (193 bb) Ibrotys (CO): $1.77 (18 bb) kezdoke (BU): $1.26 (13 bb) Naldo35 (SB): $13.04 (130 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.82 (108 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with K♠ K♥ 2 players fold, Ibrotys (CO) raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Naldo35 (SB) calls $0.25, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $1.30, Ibrotys (CO) 4-bets to $1.77 (all-in), Naldo35 (SB) 5-bets to $13.04 (all-in), Paisting (BB) calls $9.52 (all-in) Flop: ($23.41) 3♦ J♣ Q♣ (3 players, 3 all-in) Turn: ($23.41) 9♣ (3 players, 3 all-in) River: ($23.41) J♠ (3 players, 3 all-in) Total pot: $23.41 (Rake: $1.18) Showdown: Naldo35 (SB) shows J♥ J♦ (four of a kind, Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 79%, Turn: 74%, River: 100%) Ibrotys (CO) shows A♣ K♦ (a pair of Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 25%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 26%, River: 0%) Paisting (BB) shows K♠ K♥ (two pair, Kings and Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 4%, Turn: <1%, River: 0%) Naldo35 (SB) wins $22.23 And you need to make good excuses because after this week I'm gonna show whole month and it's the worst suckouted month ever. So make excuses that stand still when I reveal massive May suckouts.

Bees have to move very fast to stay still

imagine losing with 57%, you must be the first person ever to have this happen

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58583662#post58583662)

imagine losing with 57%, you must be the first person ever to have this happen

To be fair AK dude was 18bb deep. He lost most of it with KK vs JJ, with one king dead, which is basically unheard of.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58583350#post58583350)

And you need to make good excuses because after this week I'm gonna show whole month and it's the worst suckouted month ever. So make excuses that stand still when I reveal massive May suckouts.

I think you told your software engineer friend to rig the rng to be worse this month, so you could claim a record losing month again to maintain your thread fame.

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58583662#post58583662)

imagine losing with 57%, you must be the first person ever to have this happen

Didn't see or don't want to admit that I lost multiway pot with best hand to whale with worst hand?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58583350#post58583350)

And you need to make good excuses because after this week I'm gonna show whole month and it's the worst suckouted month ever. So make excuses that stand still when I reveal massive May suckouts.

Why not just post full graph for your time on 888? Or at least what you have in tracker?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58584043#post58584043)

Didn't see or don't want to admit that I lost multiway pot with best hand to whale with worst hand?

I've seen your graphs. Aren't your AIEV losses tiny compared to your overall loses? Like if there were no suck outs you would still be the biggest loser in online poker history (in BBs at least). Have you ever even had a month where your EV line was above zero?

Imagine being that stupid you believe online poker is rigged and some random muppet claiming she worked in the idustry telling you the same and you buy it. And yet you still continue to play there. There are no words to describe how stupid you are 😃

What we think about today's multiway suckout. And maybe I should be more clear what kind of whales makes these moves revealing their stats. shackurba is 67/20 . I played only 2 hands against him and even without stats marked him massive whale tag. These kind of player makes these suckouts. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Paisting (UTG): $10.55 (106 bb) Juerg6299 (MP): $4.68 (47 bb) kidstreet (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) shackurba (BU): $4.15 (42 bb) Dasende6666 (SB): $12.80 (128 bb) Jaspercafc (BB): $9.60 (96 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with Q♦ Q♠ Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.40, Juerg6299 (MP) 3-bets to $1.60, 1 fold, shackurba (BU) calls $1.60, 2 players fold, Paisting (UTG) 4-bets to $10.55 (all-in), Juerg6299 (MP) calls $3.08 (all-in), shackurba (BU) calls $2.55 (all-in) Flop: ($13.66) A♥ 8♣ 4♦ (3 players, 3 all-in) Turn: ($13.66) 7♣ (3 players, 3 all-in) River: ($13.66) 6♥ (3 players, 3 all-in) Total pot: $13.66 (Rake: $0.68) Showdown: Paisting (UTG) shows Q♦ Q♠ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 75%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 79%, River: 0%) Juerg6299 (MP) shows 9♦ 9♣ (a pair of Nines) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 10%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%) shackurba (BU) shows 9♥ T♥ (a straight, Six to Ten) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 16%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 19%, River: 100%) Paisting (UTG) wins $1.01 shackurba (BU) wins $11.97

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58584586#post58584586)

What we think about today's multiway suckout. And maybe I should be more clear what kind of whales makes these moves revealing their stats. shackurba is 67/20 . I played only 2 hands against him and even without stats marked him massive whale tag. These kind of player makes these suckouts.

No one is saying that you aren't losing hands where you're a favourite. The problem is that you seem to think you'll always win them. Your opponents modify their style of play to see more flops and get in to more pots with you because you over play hands, over bet hands and are willing to put full stacks in with a wide range of hands to avoid being sucked out on. Post entire session histories or graphs so that we can see all the other hands you played and determine if you are truly having bad sessions or simply a bad hand or two. At the very least it will be entertaining for your followers.

Really disaster?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58566040#post58566040)

There is no any working tracking site to see cash games. Those are hoax and when you look from those russian sites you see that player you are looking has played last time months ago. Instant whale tag is limp-call-call-check or on reraised pot call-call also every time when 80% stealer 2x then calls massive reraise and calls flop.

zoom and other fast fold games aren't tracked the other games are tracked though ~20% of the remaining hands don't make it

The biggest losing month so far, one of the biggest under EV running so far and new record how much 90%, 80%, 70% etc equity pots you can lose. 34 buy-ins below EV means $340 lost to the absolute worst players you can find online. Let's consider the recommended bankroll for that stake 50 buy ins. You literally lost 70% of it due to the way these games are running. How in the hell can you make a profit in an environment like this? 5x 90%+ equity loss 4x 80-90% equity loss 21x 70-80% equity loss 8x 65-70% equity loss Absolute new records in all above categories. So much suckouts that those won't fit on one page anymore on tracker. Also one thing you always forget when talking about where the EV line goes. Everyone with normal brain function understands that it's highly suspicious to get this amount of suckouts month after month. We are definitely not seeing normal variance here. Next time you comment take these things into account which are also happening with high frequency:

1. When you have the best starting hands whale flops set or better
2. Boards favour 2 random card players.
3. River cards hits to whale Now when combining all these suckouts and the above points I ask the question that I have asked earlier. In an environment like this what are the situations and what are the hands to make a profit? Still no answer as no one has ever shown this amount of suckouts month after month.

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 4 players AKGoofyAK (UTG): $4.00 (40 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) HatManFIN (SB): $11.04 (110 bb) Elazion (BB): $15.36 (154 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with Q♣ T♥ AKGoofyAK (UTG) raises to $0.40, Paisting (BU) calls $0.40, 2 players fold Flop: ($0.95) Q♠ 7♥ 3♥ (2 players) AKGoofyAK (UTG) bets $0.62, Paisting (BU) raises to $1.86, AKGoofyAK (UTG) raises to $3.60 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $1.74 Turn: ($8.15) J♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($8.15) 9♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $8.15 (Rake: $0.46) Showdown: AKGoofyAK (UTG) shows 9♠ J♦ (two pair, Jacks and Nines) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 11%, River: 100%) Paisting (BU) shows Q♣ T♥ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 96%, Turn: 89%, River: 0%) AKGoofyAK (UTG) wins $7.69 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Val20114 (UTG): $7.15 (72 bb) Inferno0815 (MP): $8.79 (88 bb) Hundsgruebel (CO): $28.92 (289 bb) Paisting (BU): $11.76 (118 bb) Szaboadam97 (SB): $4.62 (46 bb) Egalion (BB): $7.70 (77 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with Q♠ K♥ 1 fold, Inferno0815 (MP) calls $0.10, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.50, Szaboadam97 (SB) calls $0.45, Egalion (BB) calls $0.40, Inferno0815 (MP) calls $0.40 Flop: ($2) T♣ T♦ K♠ (4 players) Szaboadam97 (SB) checks, Egalion (BB) checks, Inferno0815 (MP) bets $1, Paisting (BU) calls $1, 2 players fold Turn: ($4) 8♠ (2 players) Inferno0815 (MP) bets $7.29 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $7.29 River: ($18.58) A♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $18.58 (Rake: $1.04) Showdown: Inferno0815 (MP) shows A♠ 7♦ (two pair, Aces and Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 58%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 7%, River: 100%) Paisting (BU) shows Q♠ K♥ (two pair, Kings and Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 42%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%) Inferno0815 (MP) wins $17.54 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players babuns87 (UTG): $33.67 (337 bb) kox44x (MP): $10.00 (100 bb) HatManFIN (CO): $57.74 (577 bb) FSM18 (BU): $6.10 (61 bb) Hundsgruebel (SB): $19.18 (192 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.30 (103 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with J♠ 8♦ 2 players fold, HatManFIN (CO) raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hundsgruebel (SB) 3-bets to $0.90, Paisting (BB) calls $0.80, HatManFIN (CO) calls $0.60 Flop: ($2.70) 9♣ 3♦ Q♣ (3 players) Hundsgruebel (SB) checks, Paisting (BB) checks, HatManFIN (CO) checks Turn: ($2.70) T♥ (3 players) Hundsgruebel (SB) checks, Paisting (BB) bets $9.40 (all-in), HatManFIN (CO) calls $9.40, Hundsgruebel (SB) folds River: ($21.50) K♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.50 (Rake: $1.08) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows J♠ 8♦ (a straight, Nine to King) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 15%, Turn: 92%, River: 50%) HatManFIN (CO) shows Q♥ J♣ (a straight, Nine to King) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 85%, Turn: 8%, River: 50%) Paisting (BB) wins $10.21 HatManFIN (CO) wins $10.21 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Naldo35 (UTG): $29.58 (296 bb) retarusis14 (MP): $27.55 (276 bb) sfmoto (CO): $10.04 (100 bb) Bbgunn233242 (BU): $9.15 (92 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.15 (102 bb) chipittt (BB): $12.77 (128 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with 4♣ A♥ 3 players fold, Bbgunn233242 (BU) calls $0.10, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Bbgunn233242 (BU) calls $0.50 Flop: ($1.30) A♦ J♠ K♣ (2 players) Paisting (SB) checks, Bbgunn233242 (BU) bets $0.85, Paisting (SB) calls $0.85 Turn: ($3) A♣ (2 players) Paisting (SB) checks, Bbgunn233242 (BU) bets $7.70 (all-in), Paisting (SB) calls $7.70 River: ($18.40) Q♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $18.40 (Rake: $0.92) Showdown: Bbgunn233242 (BU) shows 8♦ T♠ (a straight, Ten to Ace) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) Paisting (SB) shows 4♣ A♥ (three of a kind, Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) Bbgunn233242 (BU) wins $17.48 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players kstaffan (UTG): $18.61 (186 bb) mpanreck (MP): $10.45 (105 bb) BOB4uk_888 (CO): $4.74 (47 bb) MaiStarEdah (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.00 (100 bb) Perito59 (BB): $9.21 (92 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with 9♦ J♦ 4 players fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.30, Perito59 (BB) calls $0.20 Flop: ($0.60) 7♦ 4♣ A♦ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $0.45, Perito59 (BB) calls $0.45 Turn: ($1.50) Q♦ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $1.12, Perito59 (BB) raises to $2.24, Paisting (SB) raises to $9.25 (all-in), Perito59 (BB) calls $6.22 (all-in) River: ($18.42) 4♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $18.42 (Rake: $0.92) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows 9♦ J♦ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 48%, Flop: 31%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) Perito59 (BB) shows 4♥ A♠ (a full house, Fours full of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 69%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) Perito59 (BB) wins $17.50 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players kox44x (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.45 (105 bb) Ashpoker04 (BU): $10.07 (101 bb) WbsGG (SB): $11.10 (111 bb) LeisureProne (BB): $11.90 (119 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with T♦ T♣ 1 fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, WbsGG (SB) 3-bets to $1.60, 1 fold, Paisting (CO) calls $1.20 Flop: ($3.30) T♠ 9♣ 7♦ (2 players) WbsGG (SB) bets $2.17, Paisting (CO) raises to $8.85 (all-in), WbsGG (SB) calls $6.68 Turn: ($21) 2♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($21) K♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21 (Rake: $1.05) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows T♦ T♣ (three of a kind, Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%) WbsGG (SB) shows K♣ K♥ (three of a kind, Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 12%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%) WbsGG (SB) wins $19.95 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players oObis789 (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Paisting (MP): $10.30 (103 bb) demian1605 (CO): $4.20 (42 bb) Lsmarren (BU): $10.05 (101 bb) Saxophone88 (SB): $2.85 (29 bb) sckorrer (BB): $8.22 (82 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is MP with A♣ Q♥ 1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.40, 3 players fold, sckorrer (BB) 3-bets to $1.60, Paisting (MP) calls $1.20 Flop: ($3.25) 4♠ Q♠ 9♥ (2 players) sckorrer (BB) bets $2.14, Paisting (MP) raises to $8.70 (all-in), sckorrer (BB) calls $4.48 (all-in) Turn: ($16.49) T♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($16.49) 6♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $16.49 (Rake: $0.93) Showdown: Paisting (MP) shows A♣ Q♥ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 43%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%) sckorrer (BB) shows T♠ T♣ (three of a kind, Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%) sckorrer (BB) wins $15.56 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 4 players satanaaas (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) pagasp (BU): $10.51 (105 bb) Paisting (SB): $14.76 (148 bb) BedeAA (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with 8♥ 8♣ 2 players fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.40, BedeAA (BB) 3-bets to $1.20, Paisting (SB) 4-bets to $14.76 (all-in), BedeAA (BB) calls $8.80 (all-in) Flop: ($20) 9♥ 8♦ K♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($20) 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($20) T♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20 (Rake: $1) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows 8♥ 8♣ (three of a kind, Eights) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%) BedeAA (BB) shows 7♣ 7♠ (a straight, Six to Ten) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%) BedeAA (BB) wins $19 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players bolchevi62 (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) xoxol89 (MP): $9.96 (100 bb) mrPeaceduuke (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) MosarP (BU): $5.04 (50 bb) mchen (SB): $19.78 (198 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with Q♠ Q♥ 1 fold, xoxol89 (MP) raises to $0.25, mrPeaceduuke (CO) calls $0.25, 2 players fold, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $10 (all-in), xoxol89 (MP) calls $9.71 (all-in), 1 fold Flop: ($20.22) T♠ 5♦ 2♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($20.22) A♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($20.22) 8♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20.22 (Rake: $1.01) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows Q♠ Q♥ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 12%, Turn: 23%, River: 0%) xoxol89 (MP) shows T♥ T♣ (three of a kind, Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 77%, River: 100%) xoxol89 (MP) wins $19.21 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players Paisting (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Matue420 (CO): $5.47 (55 bb) pdutiionx (BU): $7.91 (79 bb) Adriansoare1 (SB): $2.63 (26 bb) Tightman888 (BB): $17.04 (170 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with Q♠ Q♦ Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.40, Matue420 (CO) calls $0.40, 3 players fold Flop: ($0.95) 8♥ 2♠ 7♦ (2 players) Paisting (UTG) bets $0.71, Matue420 (CO) raises to $2.84, Paisting (UTG) raises to $9.60 (all-in), Matue420 (CO) calls $2.23 (all-in) Turn: ($11.09) 5♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($11.09) 7♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $11.09 (Rake: $0.55) Showdown: Paisting (UTG) shows Q♠ Q♦ (two pair, Queens and Sevens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 89%, River: 0%) Matue420 (CO) shows A♥ 7♣ (three of a kind, Sevens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 11%, River: 100%) Matue420 (CO) wins $10.54 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players koribut (UTG): $11.00 (110 bb) WhiteDream (MP): $11.05 (111 bb) babuns87 (CO): $10.27 (103 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.40 (104 bb) terrance1985 (SB): $5.31 (53 bb) Liisaa999 (BB): $13.59 (136 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 5♣ 7♣ koribut (UTG) raises to $0.25, 2 players fold, Paisting (BU) calls $0.25, 1 fold, Liisaa999 (BB) calls $0.15 Flop: ($0.80) 4♠ 8♥ 6♥ (3 players) Liisaa999 (BB) checks, koribut (UTG) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $0.60, Liisaa999 (BB) calls $0.60, koribut (UTG) folds Turn: ($2) Q♠ (2 players) Liisaa999 (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $9.55 (all-in), Liisaa999 (BB) calls $9.55 River: ($21.10) 7♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.10 (Rake: $1.06) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows 5♣ 7♣ (a straight, Four to Eight) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 80%, River: 0%) Liisaa999 (BB) shows A♠ 8♠ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 62%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 20%, River: 100%) Liisaa999 (BB) wins $20.04 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players Ronin7777777 (UTG): $8.49 (85 bb) Paisting (CO): $19.48 (195 bb) mrPeaceduuke (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) IMerintean (SB): $17.35 (174 bb) sham139 (BB): $11.36 (114 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with A♠ A♦ Ronin7777777 (UTG) calls $0.10, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.50, 3 players fold, Ronin7777777 (UTG) calls $0.40 Flop: ($1.15) 2♦ 9♥ 3♣ (2 players) Ronin7777777 (UTG) checks, Paisting (CO) bets $0.86, Ronin7777777 (UTG) raises to $1.72, Paisting (CO) raises to $18.98 (all-in), Ronin7777777 (UTG) calls $6.27 (all-in) Turn: ($17.13) 4♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($17.13) 3♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $17.13 (Rake: $0.86) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows A♠ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 87%, Flop: 79%, Turn: 3%, River: 0%) Ronin7777777 (UTG) shows A♣ 5♣ (a straight, Ace to Five) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 21%, Turn: 97%, River: 100%) Ronin7777777 (UTG) wins $16.27 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players CardFather (UTG): $15.22 (152 bb) G0g0s (MP): $9.80 (98 bb) Elazion (CO): $17.32 (173 bb) IvI3skiz (BU): $10.57 (106 bb) Strelets.UA (SB): $19.04 (190 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.62 (106 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with J♦ 2♦ 1 fold, G0g0s (MP) raises to $0.30, 3 players fold, Paisting (BB) calls $0.20 Flop: ($0.65) Q♦ 4♣ K♦ (2 players) Paisting (BB) checks, G0g0s (MP) bets $0.32, Paisting (BB) calls $0.32 Turn: ($1.29) 9♦ (2 players) Paisting (BB) checks, G0g0s (MP) bets $0.85, Paisting (BB) raises to $10 (all-in), G0g0s (MP) calls $8.33 (all-in) River: ($19.65) Q♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $19.65 (Rake: $0.98) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows J♦ 2♦ (a flush, King high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 77%, River: 0%) G0g0s (MP) shows 4♦ 4♥ (a full house, Fours full of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 23%, River: 100%) G0g0s (MP) wins $18.67 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players LaLuna177 (UTG): $9.41 (94 bb) WbsGG (MP): $19.72 (197 bb) andrvolandr (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) BohdanChubyk (BU): $15.79 (158 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.00 (100 bb) MihailSirghi (BB): $10.49 (105 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with 9♥ J♣ 4 players fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.40, MihailSirghi (BB) calls $0.30 Flop: ($0.80) 5♦ Q♥ T♠ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $0.60, MihailSirghi (BB) calls $0.60 Turn: ($2) K♣ (2 players) Paisting (SB) checks, MihailSirghi (BB) bets $0.50, Paisting (SB) raises to $9 (all-in), MihailSirghi (BB) calls $8.50 River: ($20) K♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20 (Rake: $1.12) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows 9♥ J♣ (a straight, Nine to King) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 77%, River: 0%) MihailSirghi (BB) shows T♥ T♣ (a full house, Tens full of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 23%, River: 100%) MihailSirghi (BB) wins $18.88 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players iulian731 (UTG): $9.83 (98 bb) Paisting (MP): $10.46 (105 bb) mchen (CO): $18.42 (184 bb) Uloveit (BU): $13.74 (137 bb) hhhhhagag (SB): $14.55 (146 bb) Kri5tof (BB): $12.03 (120 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is MP with A♣ A♠ 1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, hhhhhagag (SB) calls $0.35, 1 fold Flop: ($0.90) 4♣ 8♦ 5♠ (2 players) hhhhhagag (SB) bets $0.90, Paisting (MP) raises to $10.06 (all-in), hhhhhagag (SB) calls $9.16 Turn: ($21.02) T♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($21.02) 2♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.02 (Rake: $1.05) Showdown: Paisting (MP) shows A♣ A♠ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 84%, Flop: 77%, Turn: 70%, River: 0%) hhhhhagag (SB) shows Q♣ 5♣ (a flush, Queen high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 16%, Flop: 23%, Turn: 30%, River: 100%) hhhhhagag (SB) wins $19.97 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players chiudakas07 (UTG): $1.77 (18 bb) IvI3skiz (MP): $14.54 (145 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.95 (110 bb) foggz (BU): $10.15 (102 bb) Rmcurtis97 (SB): $16.14 (161 bb) HUGE SPERM WHALE CALLS ANY2 Boosebult (BB): $9.54 (95 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with A♣ K♣ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $10.95 (all-in), 1 fold, Rmcurtis97 (SB) 3-bets to $16.14 (all-in), 1 fold Flop: ($22) Q♦ 9♥ A♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($22) T♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($22) 8♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $22 (Rake: $1.10) Showdown: Rmcurtis97 (SB) shows A♦ Q♠ (two pair, Aces and Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 24%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%) Paisting (CO) shows A♣ K♣ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 76%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%) Rmcurtis97 (SB) wins $20.90 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players AudiBossA4 (UTG): $4.97 (50 bb) Time4Revenge (CO): $22.13 (221 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.36 (104 bb) snottsnott (SB): $6.30 (63 bb) Posterman (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 9♠ 7♦ 2 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Posterman (BB) 3-bets to $2, Paisting (BU) calls $1.60 Flop: ($4.05) 7♣ T♥ 8♥ (2 players) Posterman (BB) bets $8 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $8 Turn: ($20.05) 2♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.05) A♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.05 (Rake: $1) Showdown: Posterman (BB) shows A♥ K♦ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 14%, River: 100%) Paisting (BU) shows 9♠ 7♦ (a pair of Sevens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 86%, River: 0%) Posterman (BB) wins $19.05 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players Johanuta (UTG): $24.53 (245 bb) Jacks_Joker (CO): $10.07 (101 bb) demian1605 (BU): $9.98 (100 bb) AGJames (SB): $29.50 (295 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with K♠ K♣ 3 players fold, AGJames (SB) raises to $0.20, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $1.20, AGJames (SB) calls $1 Flop: ($2.40) 3♠ Q♠ T♣ (2 players) AGJames (SB) checks, Paisting (BB) bets $1.80, AGJames (SB) calls $1.80 Turn: ($6) 3♥ (2 players) AGJames (SB) checks, Paisting (BB) bets $7 (all-in), AGJames (SB) calls $7 River: ($20) A♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20 (Rake: $1.12) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows K♠ K♣ (two pair, Kings and Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: 57%, Turn: 75%, River: 0%) AGJames (SB) shows 4♠ A♠ (two pair, Aces and Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 43%, Turn: 25%, River: 100%) AGJames (SB) wins $18.88 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Paisting (UTG): $10.55 (106 bb) Juerg6299 (MP): $4.68 (47 bb) kidstreet (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) shackurba (BU): $4.15 (42 bb) Dasende6666 (SB): $12.80 (128 bb) Jaspercafc (BB): $9.60 (96 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with Q♦ Q♠ Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.40, Juerg6299 (MP) 3-bets to $1.60, 1 fold, shackurba (BU) calls $1.60, 2 players fold, Paisting (UTG) 4-bets to $10.55 (all-in), Juerg6299 (MP) calls $3.08 (all-in), shackurba (BU) calls $2.55 (all-in) Flop: ($13.66) A♥ 8♣ 4♦ (3 players, 3 all-in) Turn: ($13.66) 7♣ (3 players, 3 all-in) River: ($13.66) 6♥ (3 players, 3 all-in) Total pot: $13.66 (Rake: $0.68) Showdown: Paisting (UTG) shows Q♦ Q♠ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 75%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 79%, River: 0%) Juerg6299 (MP) shows 9♦ 9♣ (a pair of Nines) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 10%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%) shackurba (BU) shows 9♥ T♥ (a straight, Six to Ten) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 16%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 19%, River: 100%) Paisting (UTG) wins $1.01 shackurba (BU) wins $11.97 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players noizy1boy (UTG): $4.30 (43 bb) sfmoto (CO): $11.21 (112 bb) kox44x (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) CONFIRMED HOAXER, USING BOT PROGRAMS, TEAM PLAYING qqcska11 (SB): $2.99 (30 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.20 (102 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with T♦ A♦ 2 players fold, kox44x (BU) raises to $0.25, qqcska11 (SB) calls $0.20, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $10.20 (all-in), kox44x (BU) calls $9.75 (all-in), 1 fold Flop: ($20.25) 6♦ Q♣ 7♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($20.25) 8♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($20.25) 7♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20.25 (Rake: $1.01) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows T♦ A♦ (a pair of Sevens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 73%, Flop: 21%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%) kox44x (BU) shows 6♣ A♥ (two pair, Sevens and Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 27%, Flop: 79%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%) kox44x (BU) wins $19.24 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Djc19916 (UTG): $10.22 (102 bb) piraomide (MP): $11.00 (110 bb) Stryptag7 (CO): $11.38 (114 bb) mpanreck (BU): $10.53 (105 bb) Soric1985 (SB): $7.30 (73 bb) Paisting (BB): $11.00 (110 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with 5♦ 5♣ 2 players fold, Stryptag7 (CO) raises to $0.22, 1 fold, Soric1985 (SB) calls $0.17, Paisting (BB) calls $0.12 Flop: ($0.66) J♠ 5♠ 4♣ (3 players) Soric1985 (SB) bets $0.20, Paisting (BB) calls $0.20, Stryptag7 (CO) raises to $0.80, Soric1985 (SB) calls $0.60, Paisting (BB) raises to $10.78 (all-in), Stryptag7 (CO) folds, Soric1985 (SB) calls $6.28 (all-in) Turn: ($15.62) 2♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($15.62) K♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $15.62 (Rake: $0.78) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows 5♦ 5♣ (three of a kind, Fives) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 49%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 84%, River: 0%) Soric1985 (SB) shows T♠ 8♠ (a flush, King high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 51%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 16%, River: 100%) Soric1985 (SB) wins $14.84 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players mrPeaceduuke (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Juan0633 (MP): $4.51 (45 bb) zubrbuller (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) xoxol89 (BU): $10.15 (102 bb) mchen (SB): $32.14 (321 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.60 (106 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with A♠ J♦ 3 players fold, xoxol89 (BU) raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $10.60 (all-in), xoxol89 (BU) calls $9.90 (all-in) Flop: ($20.35) K♣ K♥ 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($20.35) K♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($20.35) T♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20.35 (Rake: $1.02) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows A♠ J♦ (three of a kind, Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 73%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%) xoxol89 (BU) shows A♣ T♥ (a full house, Kings full of Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 27%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%) xoxol89 (BU) wins $19.33 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 4 players mchen (UTG): $73.17 (732 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.10 (101 bb) AquariusEV (SB): $10.88 (109 bb) Trippy55555 (BB): $20.37 (204 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with T♦ A♠ mchen (UTG) raises to $0.23, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $10.10 (all-in), 2 players fold, mchen (UTG) calls $9.87 Flop: ($20.35) A♦ Q♥ 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.35) 6♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.35) 2♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.35 (Rake: $1.02) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows T♦ A♠ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%) mchen (UTG) shows 9♦ A♥ (two pair, Aces and Nines) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%) mchen (UTG) wins $19.33 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players LoveULexii (UTG): $6.60 (66 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) ATIZADOR (BU): $4.14 (41 bb) vardyonfire (SB): $43.59 (436 bb) LaLuna177 (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with A♣ K♥ 1 fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $10 (all-in), 2 players fold, LaLuna177 (BB) calls $9.90 (all-in) Flop: ($20.05) 6♥ 2♦ 4♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($20.05) K♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($20.05) 3♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20.05 (Rake: $1) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows A♣ K♥ (a pair of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 71%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) LaLuna177 (BB) shows A♠ 5♦ (a straight, Two to Six) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 29%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) LaLuna177 (BB) wins $19.05 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Greenie2 (UTG): $14.08 (141 bb) count77 (MP): $9.60 (96 bb) water42 (CO): $15.03 (150 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.70 (107 bb) Sebi18041997 (SB): $2.37 (24 bb) DDIDO (BB): $13.12 (131 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with K♣ Q♣ 1 fold, count77 (MP) calls $0.10, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.50, Sebi18041997 (SB) 3-bets to $2.37 (all-in), 2 players fold, Paisting (BU) calls $1.87 Flop: ($4.94) 5♠ J♣ 5♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($4.94) 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($4.94) 3♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $4.94 (Rake: $0.28) Showdown: Sebi18041997 (SB) shows K♠ 2♠ (a flush, King high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 23%, Turn: 33%, River: 100%) Paisting (BU) shows K♣ Q♣ (a pair of Fives) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 77%, Turn: 67%, River: 0%) Sebi18041997 (SB) wins $4.66 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players kox44x (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) LaLuna177 (CO): $28.20 (282 bb) sfmoto (BU): $10.72 (107 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.05 (101 bb) Goodman22 (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with Q♦ A♥ 1 fold, LaLuna177 (CO) raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Paisting (SB) 3-bets to $10.05 (all-in), 1 fold, LaLuna177 (CO) calls $9.85 Flop: ($20.20) T♣ 9♣ 5♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.20) 7♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.20) A♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.20 (Rake: $1.01) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows Q♦ A♥ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) LaLuna177 (CO) shows 5♣ A♠ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) LaLuna177 (CO) wins $19.19 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players VadzimB (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Roakak (CO): $4.05 (41 bb) bolchevi62 (BU): $10.46 (105 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.25 (103 bb) ATIZADOR (BB): $11.31 (113 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with K♣ K♠ VadzimB (UTG) raises to $0.25, 2 players fold, Paisting (SB) 3-bets to $10.25 (all-in), 1 fold, VadzimB (UTG) calls $9.75 (all-in) Flop: ($20.10) J♦ 4♣ A♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($20.10) 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($20.10) 6♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20.10 (Rake: $1.01) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows K♣ K♠ (two pair, Kings and Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) VadzimB (UTG) shows Q♦ A♠ (two pair, Aces and Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) VadzimB (UTG) wins $19.09 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players WbsGG (UTG): $16.43 (164 bb) toniway21 (MP): $9.05 (91 bb) BohdanChubyk (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) ronypeter (SB): $23.29 (233 bb) LaLuna177 (BB): $29.78 (298 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with K♠ K♥ 3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $10 (all-in), 1 fold, LaLuna177 (BB) calls $9.90 Flop: ($20.05) 8♠ A♥ 6♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.05) 7♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.05) A♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.05 (Rake: $1) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows K♠ K♥ (two pair, Aces and Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) LaLuna177 (BB) shows 4♥ A♠ (three of a kind, Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) LaLuna177 (BB) wins $19.05 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players kox44x (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) AggroPOKER (MP): $10.16 (102 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.50 (105 bb) sfmoto (BU): $10.73 (107 bb) OldManStefan (SB): $4.46 (45 bb) salambot3000 (BB): $5.32 (53 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with K♣ A♦ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, salambot3000 (BB) 3-bets to $5.32 (all-in), Paisting (CO) calls $4.92 Flop: ($10.69) 7♥ 6♣ 4♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($10.69) 6♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($10.69) 2♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $10.69 (Rake: $0.53) Showdown: salambot3000 (BB) shows 2♣ A♣ (two pair, Sixes and Twos) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 14%, River: 100%) Paisting (CO) shows K♣ A♦ (a pair of Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 86%, River: 0%) salambot3000 (BB) wins $10.16 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Forklift1st (UTG): $11.06 (111 bb) AKGoofyAK (MP): $3.47 (35 bb) Missgiving (CO): $10.05 (101 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) ravemaster_z (SB): $23.00 (230 bb) Kolya_od (BB): $3.95 (40 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8♥ 9♥ 1 fold, AKGoofyAK (MP) raises to $0.40, Missgiving (CO) calls $0.40, Paisting (BU) calls $0.40, 1 fold, Kolya_od (BB) calls $0.30 Flop: ($1.65) 9♠ 4♣ 5♥ (4 players) Kolya_od (BB) checks, AKGoofyAK (MP) bets $1.08, Missgiving (CO) folds, Paisting (BU) raises to $9.60 (all-in), Kolya_od (BB) folds, AKGoofyAK (MP) calls $1.99 (all-in) Turn: ($7.79) J♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($7.79) A♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $7.79 (Rake: $0.44) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows 8♥ 9♥ (a pair of Nines) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 71%, Turn: 66%, River: 0%) AKGoofyAK (MP) shows 3♣ A♣ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 29%, Turn: 34%, River: 100%) AKGoofyAK (MP) wins $7.35 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 4 players pdutiionx (UTG): $3.48 (35 bb) RitaZ22 (BU): $15.65 (157 bb) Tightman888 (SB): $17.49 (175 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with J♦ A♦ pdutiionx (UTG) raises to $0.20, 2 players fold, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $10 (all-in), pdutiionx (UTG) calls $3.28 (all-in) Flop: ($7.01) T♣ J♣ 8♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($7.01) Q♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($7.01) 3♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $7.01 (Rake: $0.35) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows J♦ A♦ (a pair of Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 56%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%) pdutiionx (UTG) shows A♣ 8♣ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 44%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%) pdutiionx (UTG) wins $6.66 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players Paisting (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) maurofauro (CO): $3.00 (30 bb) sfmoto (BU): $8.62 (86 bb) LaLuna177 (SB): $27.97 (280 bb) kox44x (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with 9♣ T♣ Paisting (UTG) raises to $10 (all-in), maurofauro (CO) calls $3 (all-in), 3 players fold Flop: ($6.15) T♥ J♥ A♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($6.15) 8♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($6.15) 5♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $6.15 (Rake: $0.31) Showdown: Paisting (UTG) shows 9♣ T♣ (a pair of Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 2%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%) maurofauro (CO) shows 9♥ 6♥ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 98%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%) maurofauro (CO) wins $5.84 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players HRpoker2 (UTG): $21.43 (214 bb) Paisting (MP): $10.45 (105 bb) RoA34 (CO): $19.58 (196 bb) PokerOrifice (BU): $10.35 (104 bb) Strecki1818 (SB): $4.20 (42 bb) oObis789 (BB): $11.36 (114 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is MP with 7♠ 7♥ HRpoker2 (UTG) raises to $0.20, Paisting (MP) 3-bets to $1.20, 4 players fold, HRpoker2 (UTG) calls $1 Flop: ($2.55) 3♣ T♦ 2♣ (2 players) HRpoker2 (UTG) checks, Paisting (MP) bets $1.91, HRpoker2 (UTG) raises to $20.23 (all-in), Paisting (MP) calls $7.34 (all-in) Turn: ($21.05) Q♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($21.05) 3♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $21.05 (Rake: $1.18) Showdown: HRpoker2 (UTG) shows A♣ Q♦ (two pair, Queens and Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 31%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) Paisting (MP) shows 7♠ 7♥ (two pair, Sevens and Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 69%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) HRpoker2 (UTG) wins $19.87 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players chipittt (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Clemens300 (MP): $8.46 (85 bb) babuns87 (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) CJBplayer (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) Tarzan988 (SB): $4.63 (46 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with T♦ T♠ 4 players fold, Tarzan988 (SB) raises to $0.30, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $6.60, Tarzan988 (SB) calls $4.33 (all-in) Flop: ($9.26) 8♦ 9♥ A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($9.26) J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($9.26) 6♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $9.26 (Rake: $0.46) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows T♦ T♠ (a pair of Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 7%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%) Tarzan988 (SB) shows T♣ A♦ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 93%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%) Tarzan988 (SB) wins $8.80 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players LaLuna177 (UTG): $20.81 (208 bb) Storman (CO): $4.51 (45 bb) bolchevi62 (BU): $19.24 (192 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.20 (102 bb) kox44x (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with Q♥ Q♠ LaLuna177 (UTG) raises to $0.25, Storman (CO) calls $0.25, 1 fold, Paisting (SB) 3-bets to $10.20 (all-in), 1 fold, LaLuna177 (UTG) calls $9.95, 1 fold Flop: ($20.75) 2♣ K♣ A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.75) 3♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.75) 7♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.75 (Rake: $1.04) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows Q♥ Q♠ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%) LaLuna177 (UTG) shows K♠ Q♣ (a pair of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%) LaLuna177 (UTG) wins $19.71 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 3 players AquariusEV (BU): $28.56 (286 bb) mchen (SB): $23.85 (239 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with 7♣ 8♠ 1 fold, mchen (SB) raises to $0.30, Paisting (BB) calls $0.20 Flop: ($0.60) Q♦ 8♦ 7♠ (2 players) mchen (SB) checks, Paisting (BB) bets $9.70 (all-in), mchen (SB) calls $9.70 Turn: ($20) 8♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20) Q♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20 (Rake: $1) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows 7♣ 8♠ (a full house, Eights full of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 37%, Flop: 66%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%) mchen (SB) shows Q♥ 9♦ (a full house, Queens full of Eights) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 63%, Flop: 34%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%) mchen (SB) wins $19 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Oliwood49 (UTG): $9.41 (94 bb) Neverscare15 (MP): $8.64 (86 bb) PokerOrifice (CO): $10.36 (104 bb) fuehrer1981 (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.00 (100 bb) Sebi18041997 (BB): $4.50 (45 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with J♣ A♥ Oliwood49 (UTG) raises to $0.20, 3 players fold, Paisting (SB) calls $0.15, 1 fold Flop: ($0.50) T♥ K♠ Q♦ (2 players) Paisting (SB) checks, Oliwood49 (UTG) bets $0.25, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.70, Oliwood49 (UTG) raises to $9.21 (all-in), Paisting (SB) calls $8.51 Turn: ($18.92) K♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($18.92) 9♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $18.92 (Rake: $0.95) Showdown: Oliwood49 (UTG) shows T♦ T♠ (a full house, Tens full of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 35%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%) Paisting (SB) shows J♣ A♥ (a straight, Ten to Ace) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 43%, Flop: 65%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%) Oliwood49 (UTG) wins $17.97

It is very impressive that despite really disaster month after month, you've somehow managed to climb in stakes.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589201#post58589201)

It is very impressive that despite really disaster month after month, you've somehow managed to climb in stakes.

More like sad. Can't even keep the promise to play NL2 untill she has a winning month.

-2.2k in ev, nice

Finally put together an impressive month. Congrats.

Paisting, do ever feel like not playing at all or putting your welfare check on black/red instead?

yeah, it's sick how variance ****s you over. if it wasn't for the suck outs, you'd only have lost 2.2k instead of 2.5k. also: imagine losing at -100. imagine putting a BB every single hand you play and just fold. that's how bad your "strat" is. gg.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589201#post58589201)

It is very impressive that despite really disaster month after month, you've somehow managed to climb in stakes.

I've played now nl10 as suggested to and are now stuck there. I play there until im break even and then going down levels. Definitely not playing any higher despite any comments. by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589349#post58589349)

-2.2k in ev, nice

by Fat_Vicious m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58590018#post58590018)

yeah, it's sick how variance ****s you over. if it wasn't for the suck outs, you'd only have lost 2.2k instead of 2.5k.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589183#post58589183)

Also one thing you always forget when talking about where the EV line goes. Everyone with normal brain function understands that it's highly suspicious to get this amount of suckouts month after month. We are definitely not seeing normal variance here.Next time you comment take these things into account which are also happening with high frequency:1. When you have the best star... See full post

Do you count these too to that EV? Or do you have something on mind how I can get those hands to show on EV? Also we can put fourth thing to that list. It's 4. When you have AK they have AA, KK or when you have KK they have AA. by BalticGuy m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589482#post58589482)

Paisting, do ever feel like not playing at all or putting your welfare check on black/red instead?

Never. I have got those free spins and know exactly what kind of games those are. In fact they have admitted to me that those games are proven hoax.

I would really like to watch a video interview of Paisting. Donating 220 buyins in a month and hyper-focusing on the 34 below EV is insane.

by VeniceMerchant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58590705#post58590705)

I would really like to watch a video interview of Paisting. Donating 220 buyins in a month and hyper-focusing on the 34 below EV is insane.

This springs forth a wise idea, perhaps... Paisting, have you ever considered streaming on a platform like Twitch? Ad revenue and donations might be aplenty.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58590342#post58590342)

I've played now nl10 as suggested to and are now stuck there. I play there until im break even and then going down levels. Definitely not playing any higher despite any comments.

My beloved friend, you are not respected on nl10, you definitely need to go higher! and stop playing zoom!!! nl20-30 is your path to the glory! Sincerely your greatest whale

by Tuma m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58590708#post58590708)

This springs forth a wise idea, perhaps... Paisting, have you ever considered streaming on a platform like Twitch? Ad revenue and donations might be aplenty.

People offered to buy him a capable laptop for this venture, but he wasn’t willing to do it.

by MicroDonkYT m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58590963#post58590963)

People offered to buy him a capable laptop for this venture, but he wasn’t willing to do it.

Computer guy crapped his pants when it was time to deliver that computer to me.

Your lose over $2000 this month, you could've bought a beast of a computer instead of donating it in poker.

by heat555 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58591471#post58591471)

Your lose over $2000 this month, you could've bought a beast of a computer instead of donating it in poker.

Yeah but if he doesn't punt hundreds of buyins a month, he won't be able to prove that poker is rigged.

You are really saying that this normal variance with normal woking RNG? These are couple of sessions I've played on this week and literally lost every hand where I'm ahead. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 18860412 (UTG): $10.14 (101 bb) Rootsboy1898 (MP): $9.92 (99 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.15 (102 bb) franmelwood (BU): $4.08 (41 bb) braywa777 (SB): $18.74 (187 bb) M_zockt (BB): $10.35 (104 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with K♦ K♣ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, braywa777 (SB) calls $0.35, 1 fold Flop: ($0.90) 8♣ J♦ 9♣ (2 players) braywa777 (SB) bets $0.10, Paisting (CO) raises to $9.75 (all-in), braywa777 (SB) calls $9.65 Turn: ($20.40) A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.40) 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.40 (Rake: $1.02) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows K♦ K♣ (two pair, Kings and Nines) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) braywa777 (SB) shows A♦ J♣ (two pair, Aces and Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) braywa777 (SB) wins $19.38 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Jaachen520 (UTG): $10.71 (107 bb) Rigel1975 (MP): $10.81 (108 bb) hiding.by (CO): $10.61 (106 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) Sfera18 (SB): $9.85 (99 bb) Nakicen1 (BB): $18.00 (180 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with A♣ A♦ 2 players fold, hiding.by (CO) raises to $0.30, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, Nakicen1 (BB) calls $1.10, hiding.by (CO) calls $0.90 Flop: ($3.65) 9♦ J♦ Q♠ (3 players) Nakicen1 (BB) checks, hiding.by (CO) checks, Paisting (BU) checks Turn: ($3.65) 4♥ (3 players) Nakicen1 (BB) checks, hiding.by (CO) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $8.80 (all-in), Nakicen1 (BB) folds, hiding.by (CO) calls $8.80 River: ($21.25) Q♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.25 (Rake: $1.06) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows A♣ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 84%, Flop: 70%, Turn: 80%, River: 0%) hiding.by (CO) shows K♣ Q♣ (three of a kind, Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 16%, Flop: 30%, Turn: 20%, River: 100%) hiding.by (CO) wins $20.19 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players lexlex01 (UTG): $5.39 (54 bb) xafer007 (MP): $17.30 (173 bb) Avril14th (CO): $16.37 (164 bb) Elazion (BU): $24.95 (250 bb) wwfcpoker (SB): $10.57 (106 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.49 (105 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with K♠ K♦ 1 fold, xafer007 (MP) calls $0.10, 1 fold, Elazion (BU) raises to $0.35, 1 fold, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $1.40, 1 fold, Elazion (BU) 4-bets to $24.95 (all-in), Paisting (BB) calls $9.09 (all-in) Flop: ($21.13) A♠ 9♦ A♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($21.13) 7♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($21.13) 4♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $21.13 (Rake: $1.06) Showdown: Elazion (BU) shows Q♣ A♥ (three of a kind, Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 89%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) Paisting (BB) shows K♠ K♦ (two pair, Aces and Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 11%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) Elazion (BU) wins $20.07 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 1akeCare (UTG): $9.85 (99 bb) AlwaysAllIn0 (MP): $20.91 (209 bb) Storman (CO): $2.92 (29 bb) Makarius48 (BU): $7.47 (75 bb) Imaqtoie (SB): $11.96 (120 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.40 (104 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with T♥ K♠ 1 fold, AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) raises to $0.25, Storman (CO) calls $0.25, 2 players fold, Paisting (BB) calls $0.15 Flop: ($0.80) K♣ T♣ 6♠ (3 players) Paisting (BB) checks, AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) bets $0.60, Storman (CO) folds, Paisting (BB) raises to $10.15 (all-in), AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) calls $9.55 Turn: ($21.10) A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($21.10) 7♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.10 (Rake: $1.19) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows T♥ K♠ (two pair, Kings and Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) shows K♥ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) wins $19.91 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players zuusik (UTG): $14.22 (142 bb) DDIDO (MP): $10.15 (102 bb) LS123456789 (CO): $4.44 (44 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) alexandru1_v (SB): $4.18 (42 bb) Jaspercafc (BB): $10.84 (108 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with T♠ T♥ 3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, alexandru1_v (SB) calls $0.35, Jaspercafc (BB) calls $0.30 Flop: ($1.20) 6♠ 5♠ 4♠ (3 players) alexandru1_v (SB) checks, Jaspercafc (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $0.90, alexandru1_v (SB) calls $0.90, Jaspercafc (BB) folds Turn: ($3) 4♥ (2 players) alexandru1_v (SB) bets $0.10, Paisting (BU) raises to $8.70 (all-in), alexandru1_v (SB) calls $2.78 (all-in) River: ($8.76) 7♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $8.76 (Rake: $0.44) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows T♠ T♥ (two pair, Tens and Fours) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 87%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%) alexandru1_v (SB) shows 8♥ 9♠ (a straight, Five to Nine) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 12%, Turn: 7%, River: 100%) alexandru1_v (SB) wins $8.32

hey paisting have u tried using a larger OR size? these guys obv just want to crack u

Why not apply to get on the 888 Twitch stream Team to offset some of the times when you're running poorly? I know I would be there to watch 100%! (I'd love to hear the thought process). Let's Go!!!! fwiw, I have purposefully gone on to those tables in hopes of getting on your table & sucking out on you. Seems it went the other way around though, lol. Let's Go!! You wouldn't be 'Brian Paistings' would you? Think I've seen you at WSOP before.

hey paisting what is easty doing different from u that he’s able to complete his 10NL challenge but it seems like you’ve been stuck there forever.

by redwhirl m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592049#post58592049)

hey paisting have u tried using a larger OR size? these guys obv just want to crack u

In those games 4x is the sweet spot to get most often post flop heads up. by redwhirl m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592060#post58592060)

hey paisting what is easty doing different from u that he’s able to complete his 10NL challenge but it seems like you’ve been stuck there forever.

That's' good question. He seemed not so good player and I'm little bit up from him or like break even. He was really passive against me on many spots. Couple of times started betting on river on really odd cards where it was really easy to call him down after his passive lines on flop and turn. I think he was afraid of losing to me on his streams. Or frustration that he did not made any significant wins against me.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589183#post58589183)

The biggest losing month so far, one of the biggest under EV running so far 34 buy-ins below EV means $340 lost to the absolute worst players you can find online. Let's consider the recommended bankroll for that stake 50 buy ins. You literally lost 70% of it due to the way these games are running. How in the hell can you make a profit in an environment like this?

You lost over 250 buyins last month. Winning those 34 would not have mattered. You still would have blown through 4 bankrolls for your limit. People can make a profit at $10NL. People can break even at $10NL People can lose a little at $10NL People can lose a lot at $10Nl No one loses like you do at $10NL by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589183#post58589183)

So much suckouts that those won't fit on one page anymore on tracker.

You showed us 34 suckouts from 21K hands. That is nothing. by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589183#post58589183)

Also one thing you always forget when talking about where the EV line goes. Everyone with normal brain function understands that it's highly suspicious to get this amount of suckouts month after month.

I would put you in the group without a normal brain function. by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589183#post58589183)

We are definitely not seeing normal variance here.

You don't play normal. This leads your opponents to engage in highly variant behaviour which in turn skews normal variance in the short term. Start showing some hand examples where you didn't get bad beat or sucked out on. Nobody loses 2K in a month at $10 NL strictly from bad beats. You are clearly pretty terrible at poker and have no desire to get better. This leads to huge losses and an entertaining thread. by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589183#post58589183)

Next time you comment take these things into account which are also happening with high frequency:

1. When you have the best starting hands whale flops set or better
2. Boards favour 2 random card players.
3. River cards hits to whale

1. Best start hands are not always the best finishing hands.
2. Every board is random, you have to learn how to play poker to avoid making the same mistakes time and time again.
3. Welcome to the roller coaster by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58589183#post58589183)

Now when combining all these suckouts and the above points I ask the question that I have asked earlier. In an environment like this what are the situations and what are the hands to make a profit? Still no answer as no one has ever shown this amount of suckouts month after month.

You are playing hands that make a profit (in your examples), the problem is you don't know how to play poker past a basic understanding of pre flop starting hands and the basic hand classification that comes in a pack of cards. Here are some tips that you won't take

1. Accept the fact that you are terrible at poker and need to change your playing style
2. Stop overbetting to "avoid" losing
3. Start playing 3 streets of poker, not just the flop
4. Move back down to $2NL
5. Stop chasing your losses
6. Record an entire session
7. Listen to people's advice
8. Watch how people who consistently win play hands. Do they blind shove PF every time someone raises them? Do they over bet the flop every time?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58590342#post58590342)

Do you count these too to that EV? Or do you have something on mind how I can get those hands to show on EV? Also we can put fourth thing to that list. It's 4. When you have AK they have AA, KK or when you have KK they have AA.

Why did you change your narrative? You were all of that "oh blabla - finnish mumble - they're always calling with bad hands and get lucky yada-yada" for years, and now you realized they called with way better hands ~200 times this month alone and you were ahead 50 times? You do not even understand why they are calling with funny hands sometimes it seems to be the case. How many more years do you need to realize they're bumhunting you hard?

Paisting can you explain this to me? I played it just like you taught me Paisting, fast and hard, disregard the possible JT straight and just check jam the flop. How did I lose though? I had the best hand by far when I went all in. Please explain. Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD (http://drivehud.com/?t=hh) and Database Software NL Holdem 2(BB) BTN ($197) [VPIP: 6.3% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 33.3% | Flop Agg: 100% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 16.7% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 16] SB ($277.13) [VPIP: 25.4% | PFR: 19.7% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 142] BB ($288.20) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 12% | AGG: 29.2% | Hands: 101] UTG ($268.43) [VPIP: 26.3% | PFR: 21.1% | AGG: 30.2% | Hands: 174] HERO ($272.04) [VPIP: 12.8% | PFR: 9.2% | AGG: 28.9% | Flop Agg: 33.1% | Turn Agg: 28.3% | River Agg: 28.2% | 3Bet: 4.3% | 4Bet: 11.1% | Fold to 4Bet: 56.3% | Hands: 278619] MP ($233.47) [VPIP: 14.9% | PFR: 10.6% | AGG: 29.2% | Hands: 94] CO ($197) [VPIP: 14.1% | PFR: 14.1% | AGG: 66.7% | Hands: 79] Dealt to Hero: A♦ A♣ UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $5, MP Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $16, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Raises To $38, BTN Calls $22 Hero SPR on Flop: [2.01 effective] Flop ($79): 9♣ Q♥ 8♥ HERO Checks, BTN Bets $16 (Rem. Stack: $143), HERO Raises To $234.04 (allin), BTN Calls $143 (allin) Turn ($472.04): 9♣ Q♥ 8♥ 7♦ River ($472.04): 9♣ Q♥ 8♥ 7♦ K♠ Spoiler Show

BTN shows: K♥ K♣ BTN wins: $393

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592484#post58592484)

You showed us 34 suckouts from 21K hands. That is nothing.

Your whole post is lie and I can debunk every aspect of it. In fact I have the biggest sample of hands than anyone else from those different categories to show that I'm know what I'm talkin about. But this what you are saying is absolute garbage. I have played almost 20 years and been on this forum like over 10 years. During that period I have never ever seen anything like this. People are wining on forums when they have year with 35 buy ins down in EV. I have year that was 200 buy ins down in EV. When you look my hands that I post every month you see that this is something that is not happening once in a while. It's happening all the time. Every day. These hands played just today. I lose 9/10 of hands where my equity is massive. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 2soon (UTG): $24.00 (240 bb) SpaceX031988 (MP): $12.81 (128 bb) zuusik (CO): $5.60 (56 bb) Paisting (BU): $11.73 (117 bb) Naldo35 (SB): $16.04 (160 bb) sfmoto (BB): $11.20 (112 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with T♥ T♦ 3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, Naldo35 (SB) 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) 4-bets to $11.73 (all-in), Naldo35 (SB) calls $10.53 Flop: ($23.56) A♣ 7♥ A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($23.56) 9♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($23.56) 7♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $23.56 (Rake: $1.18) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows T♥ T♦ (two pair, Aces and Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%) Naldo35 (SB) shows 9♠ 9♥ (a full house, Nines full of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%) Naldo35 (SB) wins $22.38 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Hand delivered by Pokeit (https://pokeit.co/convert) afu10 (UTG): $10.65 (107 bb) hans_one (MP): $11.56 (116 bb) 00vl63 (CO): $14.78 (148 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.25 (103 bb) andriano_LT (SB): $9.97 (100 bb) sfmoto (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 9♠ 7♥ 1 fold, hans_one (MP) raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) calls $0.25, 2 players fold Flop: ($0.65) 7♠ 2♦ 4♦ (2 players) hans_one (MP) bets $0.35, Paisting (BU) raises to $1.40, hans_one (MP) calls $1.05 Turn: ($3.45) 9♥ (2 players) hans_one (MP) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $8.60 (all-in), hans_one (MP) calls $8.60 River: ($20.65) 4♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.65 (Rake: $1.16) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows 9♠ 7♥ (two pair, Nines and Sevens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%) hans_one (MP) shows A♣ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Fours) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%) hans_one (MP) wins $19.49 by enzet m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592617#post58592617)

You do not even understand why they are calling with funny hands sometimes it seems to be the case. How many more years do you need to realize they're bumhunting you hard?

I got money in against them with better hands. How that bumhunt works without help from site. This is what I've been talking about all the time. In fact today I played against player you described. If you look these kind of situations from my database its not 60/40 to me. It's the opposite. How you explain this if cards are coming random? How I'm underdog on those spots? Look that flop, it's not the flop for best hand, in fact its total disaster to any holding even kings. It favours highly player with those random holdings. Also when both have suited hands suit, is it little bit odd that there's no single one card on whole board that hits for best hand. Also zero cards that hits at all. You remember that software engineer who contacted me? 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Pokerschulle (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) 2soon (MP): $9.60 (96 bb) Paisting (CO): $11.37 (114 bb) afu10 (BU): $10.30 (103 bb) Kri5tof (SB): $15.91 (159 bb) sfmoto (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with Q♠ A♠ 1 fold, 2soon (MP) raises to $0.25, Paisting (CO) 3-bets to $1.20, 3 players fold, 2soon (MP) 4-bets to $4.80, Paisting (CO) 5-bets to $11.37 (all-in), 2soon (MP) calls $4.80 (all-in) Flop: ($19.35) K♥ 3♦ 7♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($19.35) 5♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($19.35) J♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $19.35 (Rake: $0.97) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows Q♠ A♠ (high card, Ace) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 45%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%) 2soon (MP) shows T♦ 9♦ (a flush, Ten high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 55%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%) 2soon (MP) wins $18.38 by Chip Wynn m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592680#post58592680)

Paisting can you explain this to me? I played it just like you taught me Paisting, fast and hard, disregard the possible JT straight and just check jam the flop. How did I lose though? I had the best hand by far when I went all in. Please explain.

I don't know. You need to ask all these people saying that that is really normal. Only difference in your hand is that suckouter is not whale. On my games suckouter is always green marked sperm whale.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592879#post58592879)

Your whole post is lie and I can debunk every aspect of it. In fact I have the biggest sample of hands than anyone else from those different categories to show that I'm know what I'm talkin about.

He obviously meant you posted 34 bad beats from the 21k you played last month.

If you use 4x, what are your RFI ranges?

Paisting is like a guy who shts his pants 150 times a month, vomit all over his clothes and just banging his head on a concrete wall for no reason. But if he steps on a gum he just loses his mind and his whole month is ruined. Once a month he takes a shower and washes his clothes just hoping things to turn around but no, there’s that goddam gum again. The city must be planting them just for him to step on.

Second session today. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Jaachen520 (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Kri5tof (MP): $59.12 (591 bb) Demonshek (CO): $14.74 (147 bb) MaiStarEdah (BU): $10.91 (109 bb) systarco (SB): $14.68 (147 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with K♠ K♦ Jaachen520 (UTG) raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Demonshek (CO) calls $0.25, MaiStarEdah (BU) calls $0.25, 1 fold, Paisting (BB) 3-bets to $10 (all-in), 1 fold, Demonshek (CO) calls $9.75, 1 fold Flop: ($20.55) T♦ J♣ A♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.55) 3♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.55) 2♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.55 (Rake: $1.03) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows K♠ K♦ (a pair of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%) Demonshek (CO) shows Q♠ A♠ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%) Demonshek (CO) wins $19.52 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players niekotokio (UTG): $2.90 (29 bb) Paisting (MP): $10.00 (100 bb) Kri5tof (CO): $22.02 (220 bb) 1akeCare (BU): $10.28 (103 bb) Pokerschulle (SB): $10.00 (100 bb) Jaachen520 (BB): $11.48 (115 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is MP with K♦ K♥ niekotokio (UTG) raises to $0.25, Paisting (MP) 3-bets to $10 (all-in), 4 players fold, niekotokio (UTG) calls $2.65 (all-in) Flop: ($5.95) 9♠ 6♠ 8♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($5.95) 3♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($5.95) Q♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $5.95 (Rake: $0.30) Showdown: Paisting (MP) shows K♦ K♥ (a pair of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 58%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%) niekotokio (UTG) shows 4♦ 4♠ (a flush, Nine high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%) niekotokio (UTG) wins $5.65 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players tottiboy1 (UTG): $38.68 (387 bb) Paisting (MP): $10.15 (102 bb) Markymax (CO): $3.57 (36 bb) Chugmonkey (BU): $5.18 (52 bb) kox44x (SB): $43.43 (434 bb) PROVEN HOAXER BUT THEY LET HIM PLAY LizStella (BB): $10.44 (104 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is MP with K♣ K♦ 1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, kox44x (SB) 3-bets to $1.40, 1 fold, Paisting (MP) 4-bets to $10.15 (all-in), kox44x (SB) calls $8.75 Flop: ($20.40) 9♠ J♦ 4♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.40) 2♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.40) A♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.40 (Rake: $1.02) Showdown: Paisting (MP) shows K♣ K♦ (a pair of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) kox44x (SB) shows A♥ A♣ (three of a kind, Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) kox44x (SB) wins $19.38 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 1akeCare (UTG): $10.15 (102 bb) 3753075 (MP): $12.08 (121 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.81 (108 bb) braywa777 (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) BN5632 (SB): $9.05 (91 bb) Demonshek (BB): $9.95 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with 4♣ 2♣ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, braywa777 (BU) calls $0.40, 2 players fold Flop: ($0.95) 2♥ 2♠ 4♠ (2 players) Paisting (CO) bets $10.41 (all-in), braywa777 (BU) calls $9.60 (all-in) Turn: ($20.15) 7♥ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($20.15) A♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20.15 (Rake: $1.01) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows 4♣ 2♣ (a full house, Twos full of Fours) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 16%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%) braywa777 (BU) shows 4♦ 4♥ (a full house, Fours full of Twos) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 84%, Flop: 96%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%) braywa777 (BU) wins $19.14 Open your eyes people. We have cheat scandal here in front of your eyes.

Ya thats normal variance. A few days ago I lost with Kings full twice to quads on the same table a few hands later. Then 15m later I lost with a nut flush all in on the flop he rivers a straight flush. Then I lost with AA full to another straight flush on another table and then at the end of the hr I had AA vs KK all in pre for 500bb and he rivered K. That was all within 1 hr of play. I get bad beat a lot daily. But at the end of an 8hr session I am up almost every single day. I just tell them to do it again. They can't bad beat me for 8 hrs and sooner or later their luck ends and they donk it off back to me. Variance can be rough but if you play good then you should have a profit daily if you are putting a lot of volume and just focusing on 1 hand at a time making the right decisions. The money always comes back. And if the money is not coming back you need to hire a coach or continue losing until you can figure out what you are doing wrong.

by DeeKayBee m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592979#post58592979)

If you use 4x, what are your RFI ranges?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58593066#post58593066)

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players1akeCare (UTG): $10.15 (102 bb)3753075 (MP): $12.08 (121 bb)Paisting (CO): $10.81 (108 bb)braywa777 (BU): $10.00 (100 bb)BN5632 (SB): $9.05 (91 bb)Demonshek (BB): $9.95 (100 bb)Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with 4♣ 2♣2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, braywa777 (BU) calls $0.40, 2 players fold... See full post

if u use 4x u can OR all suited 4x

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592879#post58592879)

I got money in against them with better hands.

What do you accomplish with lying to yourself and the readers? Double click to the column you list your losing hands in your tracker, you'll see the winning and losing hands combined. Stop bullshiting, it's on your graph, you play bunch of allin pots with very little equity, if any.

by redwhirl m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58593387#post58593387)

if u use 4x u can OR all suited 4x

Will implemet this into my game, thx. And if I flop a full-house 1000% cb size seems appropriate.

by DeeKayBee m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58593423#post58593423)

And if I flop a full-house 1000% cb size seems appropriate.

It's all about reads. I know these whales very well. You can literally wipe ass with gto when playing on 888. I see people calling with any pair flush draws even overcards on those boards. That's lot of hands to call with.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58593429#post58593429)

It's all about reads. I know these whales very well.

Do you have more reads you could share? 888 seems like a good option to play on.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58593429#post58593429)

It's all about reads. I know these whales very well. You can literally wipe ass with gto when playing on 888.

Takes one to know one?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592879#post58592879)

I have year that was 200 buy ins down in EV.

200 buyins under EV and likely 1K buyins down overall. Generally someone who is having a bad year EV wise is losing because of the EV dip in their graph. You are losing because of some EV dips but also are massively losing because you just aren't good at poker. You're like a farmer who lost 25% of his crop to hail and the rest of it because you never bothered to water it. Somehow you still blame the hail for losing your entire crop.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58593429#post58593429)

You can literally wipe ass with gto when playing on 888

The majority of GTO is not applicable at the lower limits, so wipe away.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58592879#post58592879)

I got money in against them with better hands. How that bumhunt works without help from site. This is what I've been talking about all the time.

The hands you show us you do often have the better hand or flop better. The problem is the hands you don't show us. Nobody loses as much as you have by playing only premium hands. Show us the hands between the suck outs where you tried to force people to fold with massive over bets and showed down garbage. Those hands are the reason why people call you with a wide range and you get sucked out on "more" than other people.

You should try omaha. The pot bet style would limit your aggression, the drawing aspect of the game would appeal to your desire to gamble and the fact that you're rarely without at least a few outs would probably lead to "better" results and fewer losses in a month. You'll still lose but losing less is probably a win for you.

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58593591#post58593591)

The hands you show us you do often have the better hand or flop better. The problem is the hands you don't show us. Nobody loses as much as you have by playing only premium hands. Show us the hands between the suck outs where you tried to force people to fold with massive over bets and showed down garbage. Those hands are the reason why people call you with a wide range and you... See full post

He's just punishing the players for posting the blinds until they stop so he can shove on empty tables for the dead money.

Guy lost 220 buy ins in EV last month and is still convinced his read are good and his style of play isn't the problem, just phenomenal

Yesterday session. 1 session 10 suckouts. You say normal variance I say mathematically impossible to achieve with normal working RNG. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Enertho1 (UTG): $3.80 (38 bb) Demonshek (MP): $12.24 (122 bb) nufcexile (CO): $9.92 (99 bb) Lillhen15 (BU): $26.02 (260 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.35 (104 bb) jamal2290 (BB): $14.21 (142 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with A♦ K♣ Enertho1 (UTG) calls $0.10, 3 players fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Enertho1 (UTG) calls $0.50 Flop: ($1.30) 4♦ Q♥ A♠ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $0.97, Enertho1 (UTG) calls $0.97 Turn: ($3.24) 9♠ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $3.24, Enertho1 (UTG) calls $2.23 (all-in) River: ($7.70) J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $7.70 (Rake: $0.39) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows A♦ K♣ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) Enertho1 (UTG) shows T♥ K♠ (a straight, Ten to Ace) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) Enertho1 (UTG) wins $7.31 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players cegonha191 (UTG): $15.01 (150 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.15 (102 bb) kox44x (BU): $12.57 (126 bb) kidofdota92 (SB): $10.00 (100 bb) savac98 (BB): $8.97 (90 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with 7♦ 8♦ 1 fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, kox44x (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, savac98 (BB) calls $1.10, Paisting (CO) calls $0.80 Flop: ($3.65) 3♦ J♣ A♦ (3 players) savac98 (BB) checks, Paisting (CO) checks, kox44x (BU) bets $1.83, savac98 (BB) folds, Paisting (CO) calls $1.83 Turn: ($7.31) J♦ (2 players) Paisting (CO) bets $7.12 (all-in), kox44x (BU) calls $7.12 River: ($21.55) A♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.55 (Rake: $1.08) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows 7♦ 8♦ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 42%, Flop: 38%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) kox44x (BU) shows A♥ K♠ (a full house, Aces full of Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 58%, Flop: 62%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) kox44x (BU) wins $20.47 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 1akeCare (UTG): $9.27 (93 bb) RarzePutin (MP): $10.12 (101 bb) Krikkekrik (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) Demonshek (BU): $20.39 (204 bb) babsybaron (SB): $1.90 (19 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.15 (102 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with 6♦ 4♣ 1 fold, RarzePutin (MP) raises to $0.25, 3 players fold, Paisting (BB) calls $0.15 Flop: ($0.55) K♥ 6♣ 8♦ (2 players) Paisting (BB) checks, RarzePutin (MP) bets $0.36, Paisting (BB) calls $0.36 Turn: ($1.27) 4♠ (2 players) Paisting (BB) checks, RarzePutin (MP) bets $1.03, Paisting (BB) raises to $9.54 (all-in), RarzePutin (MP) calls $8.48 (all-in) River: ($20.29) 8♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20.29 (Rake: $1.01) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows 6♦ 4♣ (two pair, Eights and Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%) RarzePutin (MP) shows K♣ J♣ (two pair, Kings and Eights) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%) RarzePutin (MP) wins $19.28 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players kox44x (UTG): $18.61 (186 bb) Sacalu7425 (CO): $6.63 (66 bb) Paisting (BU): $11.20 (112 bb) burn_darius (SB): $7.33 (73 bb) mcg899 (BB): $14.60 (146 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with A♣ A♦ 1 fold, Sacalu7425 (CO) raises to $0.20, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, mcg899 (BB) 4-bets to $14.60 (all-in), 1 fold, Paisting (BU) calls $10 (all-in) Flop: ($22.65) K♥ J♠ Q♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($22.65) 6♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($22.65) J♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $22.65 (Rake: $1.13) Showdown: mcg899 (BB) shows Q♦ Q♥ (a full house, Queens full of Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 79%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%) Paisting (BU) shows A♣ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 21%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%) mcg899 (BB) wins $21.52 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players foggz (UTG): $21.30 (213 bb) olly1109 (MP): $6.15 (62 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) kidofdota92 (BU): $11.16 (112 bb) PokerOrifice (SB): $10.10 (101 bb) benizakura10 (BB): $3.48 (35 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with A♦ A♥ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, benizakura10 (BB) 3-bets to $3.48 (all-in), Paisting (CO) calls $3.08 Flop: ($7.01) 8♦ J♠ 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($7.01) J♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($7.01) 5♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $7.01 (Rake: $0.35) Showdown: benizakura10 (BB) shows T♠ Q♠ (a flush, Queen high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 20%, Flop: 97%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%) Paisting (CO) shows A♦ A♥ (two pair, Aces and Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 80%, Flop: 3%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%) benizakura10 (BB) wins $6.66 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players BigDaddy2088 (UTG): $4.90 (49 bb) Sparvinho (MP): $11.39 (114 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.20 (102 bb) tomalino16 (BU): $5.33 (53 bb) pagasp (SB): $10.05 (101 bb) 88lx88 (BB): $11.19 (112 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with K♥ A♠ BigDaddy2088 (UTG) calls $0.10, Sparvinho (MP) raises to $0.40, Paisting (CO) 3-bets to $10.20 (all-in), 4 players fold, Sparvinho (MP) calls $9.80 Flop: ($20.65) J♦ 4♥ 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.65) 2♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.65) 2♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.65 (Rake: $1.03) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows K♥ A♠ (a pair of Twos) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%) Sparvinho (MP) shows A♣ J♠ (two pair, Jacks and Twos) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 93%, River: 100%) Sparvinho (MP) wins $19.62 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Talita.Alves (UTG): $23.44 (234 bb) mariale_1990 (MP): $3.75 (38 bb) shezzabee (CO): $2.63 (26 bb) Paisting (BU): $11.25 (113 bb) Enertho1 (SB): $11.41 (114 bb) VadzimB (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 7♦ 6♠ 3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, Enertho1 (SB) calls $0.35, 1 fold Flop: ($0.90) 6♥ K♥ 7♣ (2 players) Enertho1 (SB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $10.85 (all-in), Enertho1 (SB) calls $10.85 Turn: ($22.60) 5♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($22.60) K♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $22.60 (Rake: $1.13) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows 7♦ 6♠ (two pair, Kings and Sevens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: 71%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%) Enertho1 (SB) shows K♠ A♥ (three of a kind, Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 62%, Flop: 29%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%) Enertho1 (SB) wins $21.47 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players burn_darius (UTG): $6.94 (69 bb) Paisting (CO): $9.95 (100 bb) Enertho1 (BU): $5.13 (51 bb) benizakura10 (SB): $21.03 (210 bb) Swatpup2000 (BB): $41.78 (418 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with Q♦ Q♣ 1 fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, Swatpup2000 (BB) calls $0.30 Flop: ($0.85) 6♣ T♠ 4♣ (2 players) Swatpup2000 (BB) checks, Paisting (CO) bets $0.73, Swatpup2000 (BB) calls $0.73 Turn: ($2.31) J♥ (2 players) Swatpup2000 (BB) checks, Paisting (CO) bets $8.82 (all-in), Swatpup2000 (BB) calls $8.82 River: ($19.95) 3♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $19.95 (Rake: $1) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows Q♦ Q♣ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 51%, Turn: 70%, River: 0%) Swatpup2000 (BB) shows A♣ T♣ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 49%, Turn: 30%, River: 100%) Swatpup2000 (BB) wins $18.95 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Paisting (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Demonshek (MP): $9.95 (100 bb) Lillhen15 (CO): $22.11 (221 bb) bolchevi62 (BU): $11.01 (110 bb) Talita.Alves (SB): $24.12 (241 bb) Pokson (BB): $9.08 (91 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with 5♠ 5♥ Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.40, 4 players fold, Pokson (BB) 3-bets to $1.60, Paisting (UTG) calls $1.20 Flop: ($3.25) 6♥ 8♦ 2♥ (2 players) Pokson (BB) bets $1.70, Paisting (UTG) calls $1.70 Turn: ($6.65) Q♦ (2 players) Pokson (BB) checks, Paisting (UTG) bets $6.70 (all-in), Pokson (BB) calls $5.78 (all-in) River: ($18.21) 9♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $18.21 (Rake: $0.91) Showdown: Paisting (UTG) shows 5♠ 5♥ (a pair of Fives) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 66%, River: 0%) Pokson (BB) shows K♦ A♦ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 48%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 34%, River: 100%) Pokson (BB) wins $17.30 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players ksu29 (UTG): $11.25 (113 bb) Lsmarren (MP): $11.76 (118 bb) Talita.Alves (CO): $24.50 (245 bb) Paisting (BU): $20.41 (204 bb) DadaBeau (SB): $3.82 (38 bb) VoropaevaYa (BB): $3.74 (37 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with T♠ T♦ 2 players fold, Talita.Alves (CO) raises to $0.20, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, VoropaevaYa (BB) calls $1.10, 1 fold Flop: ($2.65) 6♥ A♦ 5♠ (2 players) VoropaevaYa (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $2.65, VoropaevaYa (BB) calls $2.54 (all-in) Turn: ($7.73) Q♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($7.73) 4♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $7.73 (Rake: $0.39) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows T♠ T♦ (a pair of Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 79%, Flop: 66%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%) VoropaevaYa (BB) shows 8♣ 7♣ (a straight, Four to Eight) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 21%, Flop: 34%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%) VoropaevaYa (BB) wins $7.34

Unlucky by design...

And more. I have lost every pot this weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday where I'm ahead. Tell me how this amount of suckouts is possible. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Paisting (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Matheos2001 (MP): $4.20 (42 bb) Funkdoobiest (CO): $10.59 (106 bb) Vlary24 (BU): $7.20 (72 bb) YoungBloodAT (SB): $9.72 (97 bb) Aim11370034 (BB): $4.98 (50 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with A♠ A♥ Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.40, Matheos2001 (MP) 3-bets to $1, 3 players fold, Aim11370034 (BB) 4-bets to $3, Paisting (UTG) 5-bets to $10 (all-in), Matheos2001 (MP) calls $3.20 (all-in), 1 fold Flop: ($11.45) K♣ 3♣ 3♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($11.45) 8♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($11.45) J♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $11.45 (Rake: $0.57) Showdown: Paisting (UTG) shows A♠ A♥ (two pair, Aces and Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%) Matheos2001 (MP) shows J♦ J♥ (a full house, Jacks full of Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%) Matheos2001 (MP) wins $10.88 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players miseyukas75 (UTG): $9.90 (99 bb) bibinufc76 (MP): $1.91 (19 bb) DEZDOZE (CO): $11.71 (117 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.50 (105 bb) MrChips_ (SB): $10.00 (100 bb) foggz (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with K♥ K♣ 2 players fold, DEZDOZE (CO) raises to $0.25, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 2 players fold, DEZDOZE (CO) 4-bets to $11.71 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $9.30 (all-in) Flop: ($21.15) T♠ 7♠ 2♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($21.15) 8♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($21.15) 4♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $21.15 (Rake: $1.06) Showdown: DEZDOZE (CO) shows A♠ K♠ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 47%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%) Paisting (BU) shows K♥ K♣ (a pair of Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 53%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%) DEZDOZE (CO) wins $20.09 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Paisting (UTG): $10.56 (106 bb) attivi28 (MP): $16.34 (163 bb) Lillhen15 (CO): $10.72 (107 bb) Chiefcom__01 (BU): $14.88 (149 bb) braywa777 (SB): $10.00 (100 bb) Liisaa999 (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with Q♣ Q♦ Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, Chiefcom__01 (BU) calls $0.40, braywa777 (SB) calls $0.35, Liisaa999 (BB) 3-bets to $10 (all-in), Paisting (UTG) 4-bets to $10.56 (all-in), Chiefcom__01 (BU) calls $10.16, 1 fold Flop: ($31.52) 3♦ J♦ 6♥ (3 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($31.52) 6♣ (3 players, 2 all-in) River: ($31.52) 5♦ (3 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $31.52 (Rake: $1.58) Showdown: Paisting (UTG) shows Q♣ Q♦ (two pair, Queens and Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 7%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) Liisaa999 (BB) shows J♣ J♠ (a full house, Jacks full of Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) Chiefcom__01 (BU) shows T♣ K♦ (a pair of Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 24%, Flop: 5%, Turn: <1%, River: 0%) Paisting (UTG) wins $1.06 Liisaa999 (BB) wins $28.88

You were only ahead 3 times all weekend? That kind of explains your graph doesn't it.

You have to move up where they respect your raises, Paisting. Then, surely, these terrible rigged runouts will be much more avoidable. Gl

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58597356#post58597356)

And more. I have lost every pot this weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday where I'm ahead. Tell me how this amount of suckouts is possible.

Did anyone ever beat you when they had 0% chance to win?

by BalticGuy m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58598078#post58598078)

You have to move up where they respect your raises, Paisting. Then, surely, these terrible rigged runouts will be much more avoidable. Gl

I start to put permanent bans to this topic for everyone who is saying play higher. Everyone should see and understand what happened when I did start play nl10. Those comments are just total stupid.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58598226#post58598226)

I start to put permanent bans to this topic for everyone who is saying play higher. Everyone should see and understand what happened when I did start play nl10. Those comments are just total stupid.

I agree, Paisting. However, you will lose one follower, I really doubt you want that.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58598226#post58598226)

I start to put permanent bans to this topic for everyone who is saying play higher. Everyone should see and understand what happened when I did start play nl10. Those comments are just total stupid.

Lol. Everyone knows what happened when you started playing NL2 you baboon :p

And today. 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Wolf11 (UTG): $10.09 (101 bb) LucyTheWitch (MP): $32.55 (326 bb) squ4444 (CO): $4.00 (40 bb) braywa777 (BU): $20.53 (205 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.30 (103 bb) koribut (BB): $11.23 (112 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with A♣ K♥ 3 players fold, braywa777 (BU) calls $0.10, Paisting (SB) raises to $10.30 (all-in), 1 fold, braywa777 (BU) calls $10.20 Flop: ($20.70) J♥ Q♠ 6♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.70) 9♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.70) 3♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.70 (Rake: $1.04) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows A♣ K♥ (high card, Ace) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 75%, Flop: 28%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%) braywa777 (BU) shows Q♣ A♥ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 25%, Flop: 72%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%) braywa777 (BU) wins $19.66 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players kox44x (UTG): $21.75 (218 bb) Demonshek (MP): $11.38 (114 bb) braywa777 (CO): $16.20 (162 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.80 (108 bb) kombinator (SB): $14.66 (147 bb) FinnMol (BB): $7.00 (70 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8♦ 9♥ 1 fold, Demonshek (MP) raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) calls $0.25, 1 fold, FinnMol (BB) calls $0.15 Flop: ($0.80) T♥ 6♥ 8♠ (3 players) FinnMol (BB) bets $0.40, Demonshek (MP) raises to $1.60, Paisting (BU) calls $1.60, FinnMol (BB) folds Turn: ($4.40) 7♥ (2 players) Demonshek (MP) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $8.95 (all-in), Demonshek (MP) calls $8.95 River: ($22.30) 2♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $22.30 (Rake: $1.12) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows 8♦ 9♥ (a flush, Ten high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 33%, Turn: 81%, River: 0%) Demonshek (MP) shows K♥ T♣ (a flush, King high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 67%, Turn: 19%, River: 100%) Demonshek (MP) wins $21.18 I have lost $130 in 4 days to suckouts. Including 3x aces.

I just stumble across this and scanned a few pages Is this the most committed troll in the history of 2+2?

by mike1270 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599221#post58599221)

I just stumble across this and scanned a few pages Is this the most committed troll in the history of 2+2?

No, he's real. He's disassociated from reality. Any attempt to question him about his actual bad play gets ignored. All he can do is talk about the bad luck that he's constantly experiencing in his own mind. Also I believe he's down a couple hundred thousand or more, not just 16k. Mainly from jamming any 2 cards at 2nl for a decade.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58598784#post58598784)

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playerskox44x (UTG): $21.75 (218 bb)Demonshek (MP): $11.38 (114 bb)braywa777 (CO): $16.20 (162 bb)Paisting (BU): $10.80 (108 bb)kombinator (SB): $14.66 (147 bb)FinnMol (BB): $7.00 (70 bb)Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8♦ 9♥1 fold, Demonshek (MP) raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) calls $0.25, 1 fold, FinnM... See full post

It's insane that you are still playing hands this poorly at 10nl after all this time, No wander you lose so much

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58598784#post58598784)

And today. Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with A♣ K♥ 3 players fold, braywa777 (BU) calls $0.10, Paisting (SB) raises to $10.30 (all-in), 1 fold, braywa777 (BU) calls $10.20

Why do you keep over betting or open shoving like this? Explain your thought process, backed up with evidence, that this style is consistently profitable even though it goes against the generally accepted strategy for holdem.

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599614#post58599614)

Why do you keep over betting or open shoving like this? Explain your thought process, backed up with evidence, that this style is consistently profitable even though it goes against the generally accepted strategy for holdem.

That braywa777 is total whale, making ridiculous calls like that after limp and is limping 100% on button. He is ready to call any raise, but then slows down on many scary boards. When we know we are light years ahead his range and he is ready to play pre flop for stacks but folds on flop or turn smaller pots, I think it’s really easy to push him all in. And of course I push there aces too to balance. There are lots of that kind of whales with limp call all ins with dominated hand.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599637#post58599637)

That braywa777 is total whale, making ridiculous calls like that after limp and is limping 100% on button. He is ready to call any raise, but then slows down on many scary boards. When we know we are light years ahead his range and he is ready to play pre flop for stacks but folds on flop or turn smaller pots, I think it’s really easy to push him all in. And of course I push th... See full post

Paisting if you jam any 2 cards preflop including aces do you consider that to be balanced?

by Chip Wynn m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599777#post58599777)

Paisting if you jam any 2 cards preflop including aces do you consider that to be balanced?

Where you get that any two? Have you checked those all hands I’ve posted?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599781#post58599781)

Where you get that any two? Have you checked those all hands I’ve posted?

Don't you just start going all-in every hand for long stretches with any 2 cards after you get tilted and take a bad beat? Or am I incorrect in saying that's your tendency? Or do you not do that anymore?

by Chip Wynn m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599818#post58599818)

Don't you just start going all-in every hand for long stretches with any 2 cards after you get tilted and take a bad beat? Or am I incorrect in saying that's your tendency? Or do you not do that anymore?

I post every month about 20 hand where I lose with 70-95% equity to show people that is not normal working poker site. Go through to hands and look how much there is shoving and with any 2. Those your any 2 has 80-90% equity against those whales. 888 just don't let me run over them like it should be and those idiots should lose money in 15 minutes.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599921#post58599921)

I post every month about 20 hand where I lose with 70-95% equity to show people that is not normal working poker site. Go through to hands and look how much there is shoving and with any 2. Those your any 2 has 80-90% equity against those whales. 888 just don't let me run over them like it should be and those idiots should lose money in 15 minutes.

You didn't answer my question. Do you start going all-in every hand in a row after a bad beat? Or have you stopped doing that? Have you ever even acknowledged that's what you do? Are you even aware that's what you do? We have the evidence Paisting, you keep cherry picking hands but we can see your graph just starts going straight down at points where you are literally going all-in every hand so please answer my question, don't ignore it. Thanks.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599921#post58599921)

I post every month about 20 hand where I lose with 70-95% equity to show people that is not normal working poker site. Go through to hands and look how much there is shoving and with any 2. Those your any 2 has 80-90% equity against those whales. 888 just don't let me run over them like it should be and those idiots should lose money in 15 minutes.

I see two big stretches last month where you lost almost 150BIs in less than 1500 hands. In fact the vast majority of the EV difference comes from these two stretches as well.

by Chip Wynn m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58600344#post58600344)

You didn't answer my question.Do you start going all-in every hand in a row after a bad beat? Or have you stopped doing that? Have you ever even acknowledged that's what you do? Are you even aware that's what you do? We have the evidence Paisting, you keep cherry picking hands but we can see your graph just starts going straight down at points where you are literally going ... See full post

Judging by the recent graphs, it happens at least once a month. He won't answer the question as asked directly though.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599921#post58599921)

I post every month about 20 hand where I lose with 70-95% equity to show people that is not normal working poker site. Go through to hands and look how much there is shoving and with any 2. Those your any 2 has 80-90% equity against those whales. 888 just don't let me run over them like it should be and those idiots should lose money in 15 minutes.

20 hands. You play 1000s of hands each month. Nobody is arguing the hands you post (for the most part). We are interested about the other hands you don't post where you likely go crazy and start going allin with any 2 cards. There is a reason people are willing to call your overbets and shoves with a wide range. It's because of how you play after you get bad beat and go on tilt. You're not losing 2K a month by getting bad beat.

OP, would you accept a deal of $100,000 paid over 10 years under the condition that you have to quit poker forever?

by mato4 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58601283#post58601283)

OP, would you accept a deal of $100,000 paid over 10 years under the condition that you have to quit poker forever?

Definitely yes. About $800 per month is something I've tried to achieve.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58601376#post58601376)

Definitely yes. About $800 per month is something I've tried to achieve.

Paisting, what mato is trying to say is that if you quit playing poker you would stop losing that much money. Just quit playing poker and find something else to do with your life, you'll be happier for it. And you'll have more money too.

hey I haven't read the thread all the way through but Paisting did you ever make your 16k back?

by Acesfullofgarbage m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58604973#post58604973)

hey I haven't read the thread all the way through but Paisting did you ever make your 16k back?

When you look those suckout list where I lose every month 20-30 buy ins under EV so what you think? It means 200-300 dollars on nl10.

You are a sad human that needs help man.

Can we get a lifetime graph

by Im Nacho Friend m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58605551#post58605551)

Can we get a lifetime graph

Don't have it. Lots of hands went with broken computer.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58605555#post58605555)

Don't have it. Lots of hands went with broken computer.

you probably just run really well there. Ran lots above ev, winning every suckout just like always. and therefore won't show us

by puntmeister m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58605348#post58605348)

You are a sad human that needs help man.

That's a bit harsh he has a gambling addiction clearly no different than people playing slots all day. A slot player could at least win a big jackpot I guess but its still similar. Obviously he understands he sucks, just look at the thread title. It's a weird schtick but apparently he's good with it.

Paisting do you ever feel bad about losing 50k+ euros of hard working taxpayers money at 2nl?

Imagine being that stupid to think that saying losing to 300$ to suckout explains why you are six figures down at the smallest games possible you idiot :p

by ImePaskaa m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58606028#post58606028)

Imagine being that stupid to think that saying losing to 300$ to suckout explains why you are six figures down at the smallest games possible you idiot :p

I don't understand posters like you. And there are many.

by roe jogan m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58605925#post58605925)

Paisting do you ever feel bad about losing 50k+ euros of hard working taxpayers money at 2nl?

Have you looked those hands where I lose and with what hands I lose? When you look that, then tell me what are the hands to start with and what are the hands to go from the flop that makes money. Asked this many times zero answers.

It's been answered a million times you just ignore the answers because they don't fit your narrative,

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58606764#post58606764)

Have you looked those hands where I lose and with what hands I lose? When you look that, then tell me what are the hands to start with and what are the hands to go from the flop that makes money. Asked this many times zero answers.

Once again, its not the hand selection for the small sample of hands you show us its your overall playing style that causes you to lose. Everyone loses with hands that should win. You lose HUGE amounts with hands you likely have no reason to play which is where your massive monthly losses come from. You need to start back at ground zero and develop your playing style again. No more allin preflop bets. No more full stack shoves on the flop, no more over betting in general and most importantly of all NO MORE RAGE TILT with junk cards. Once people start seeing that you raise a normal 2 or 2.5bb PF and cbet 25 - 75% on the flop, can fold hands on the turn when you're behind or just fold in general they will stop calling you so wide and you might actually start having a positive session or two. You won't make this change though because its easier to just keep putting full stacks in at any given time and complaining about losing 20 hands out of a 1000 hand session where you were the favourite and forget about the 200 hands you lost where you were behind. Good luck sir, I continue to enjoy the delusions.

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58607010#post58607010)

Once people start seeing that you raise a normal 2 or 2.5bb PF

That is solver size and solver plays against one people. Raising so small is one of the biggest preflop mistakes you can make on those games. You get constantly 3-4 callers on those games. It's also huge mistake in every aspect of poker theorems out there. "You wanna raise maximum they call". The game hasn't changed so much that you can throw the basic theorems out of the window. Only reason behind people raising so small is that they are mimicking. Mimicking without basic understanding why they do so. When they raise solver size and get 2 callers it's long way to do solver from the river.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58607138#post58607138)

"You wanna raise maximum they call".

Raising what they will call is flawed logic when combined with your tendency to go on tilt and blow though countless buyins shoving any 2. Yes, they will call much wider but who cares if you win one buyin because they called your shove and "the max" when you're already down 10 buyins because you play terribly. Re-invent your game or continue to lose.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58607138#post58607138)

That is solver size and solver plays against one people. Raising so small is one of the biggest preflop mistakes you can make on those games. You get constantly 3-4 callers on those games. It's also huge mistake in every aspect of poker theorems out there. "You wanna raise maximum they call". The game hasn't changed so much that you can throw the basic theorems out of the windo... See full post

should be "you want to raise the maximum they will call with a worse range of hands" that said if I had to grind micros I would likely open 3-4x as default as I assume the pool under 3Bs? If there were specific villains who never fold you could play tighter preflop and use even bigger RFI size

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58605555#post58605555)

Don't have it. Lots of hands went with broken computer.

Doesn't have to include all hands. All hands you do have is fine.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58605285#post58605285)

When you look those suckout list where I lose every month 20-30 buy ins under EV so what you think? It means 200-300 dollars on nl10.

yeah but you mostly get it in while ahead so you have to have clawed back at least 50% of that 16k right? Right?

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58596380#post58596380)

You say normal variance I say mathematically impossible to achieve with normal working RNG.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58597356#post58597356)

And more. I have lost every pot this weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday where I'm ahead. Tell me how this amount of suckouts is possible.

Its not. You should stop playing. But we all know, you won't.

Paisting, what have you been up to besides poker?

by Acesfullofgarbage m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58604973#post58604973)

hey I haven't read the thread all the way through but Paisting did you ever make your 16k back?

Not yet but I think he will.

by spaceman Bryce m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58618867#post58618867)

Not yet but I think he will.

you gotta have faith!

by Acesfullofgarbage m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58620344#post58620344)

you gotta have faith!

I have read every post in this thread, and I am being sincere.

Imagine being that stupid you think you are playing in rigged games where you can't win and for some reason keep playing and losing for 10+ years to prove a point to people you don't know :p You for sure are the biggest idiont in online poker history.

Inversely, if we as poker players who appreciate fine art pooled are resources together, im sure we as a community can “outmatch” paisting and play “worse” than him. It will take a lot of creativity and talent but we as a community of artists and card players can make his play +ev.

Dear Paisting, I trust this letter finds you in the highest of spirits and amidst surroundings that reflect your esteemed presence. As I contemplate the current state of affairs, my thoughts naturally turn to you, whose opinions on matters of governance I hold in the utmost regard. The Finnish government has recently been the subject of considerable criticism, both from our fellow Finns and from our counterparts in the European Union. This has sparked a fervent discourse on the efficacy and direction of our nation's leadership. In light of this, I am most eager to hear your esteemed perspective on the matter. What is your assessment of the current administration’s policies and their implications for our beloved Finland? Do you see merit in the criticisms levied, or do you believe that the government is being unduly judged in these turbulent times? Your insights would not only enrich my understanding but also contribute significantly to the broader dialogue on our nation’s path forward. I eagerly await your response, confident that it will be as enlightening and thought-provoking as always. Yours sincerely, Calm Down

Really disaster?

Updates?

Updates?

June is over and suckouts on 888 are getting worst and worst. 252 dollars to suckouts. Last month: 3x 90%+ suckouts 9x 80-90% suckouts 10x 70-80% suckouts 7x 65-70% suckouts Those hands contains all big hands everytime they went all in meaning: 5x AA, 5x KK, 3x QQ

() () ( Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players zuusik (UTG): $14.22 (142 bb) DDIDO (MP): $10.15 (102 bb) LS123456789 (CO): $4.44 (44 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) alexandru1_v (SB): $4.18 (42 bb) Jaspercafc (BB): $10.84 (108 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with T♠ T♥ 3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, alexandru1_v (SB) calls $0.35, Jaspercafc (BB) calls $0.30 Flop: ($1.20) 6♠ 5♠ 4♠ (3 players) alexandru1_v (SB) checks, Jaspercafc (BB) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $0.90, alexandru1_v (SB) calls $0.90, Jaspercafc (BB) folds Turn: ($3) 4♥ (2 players) alexandru1_v (SB) bets $0.10, Paisting (BU) raises to $8.70 (all-in), alexandru1_v (SB) calls $2.78 (all-in) River: ($8.76) 7♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $8.76 (Rake: $0.44) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows T♠ T♥ (two pair, Tens and Fours) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 87%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%) alexandru1_v (SB) shows 8♥ 9♠ (a straight, Five to Nine) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 12%, Turn: 7%, River: 100%) alexandru1_v (SB) wins $8.32 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Enertho1 (UTG): $3.80 (38 bb) Demonshek (MP): $12.24 (122 bb) nufcexile (CO): $9.92 (99 bb) Lillhen15 (BU): $26.02 (260 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.35 (104 bb) jamal2290 (BB): $14.21 (142 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with A♦ K♣ Enertho1 (UTG) calls $0.10, 3 players fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Enertho1 (UTG) calls $0.50 Flop: ($1.30) 4♦ Q♥ A♠ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $0.97, Enertho1 (UTG) calls $0.97 Turn: ($3.24) 9♠ (2 players) Paisting (SB) bets $3.24, Enertho1 (UTG) calls $2.23 (all-in) River: ($7.70) J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $7.70 (Rake: $0.39) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows A♦ K♣ (a pair of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) Enertho1 (UTG) shows T♥ K♠ (a straight, Ten to Ace) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) Enertho1 (UTG) wins $7.31 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 5 players cegonha191 (UTG): $15.01 (150 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.15 (102 bb) kox44x (BU): $12.57 (126 bb) PROVEN HOAXER, MORE ABOUT HIM AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST kidofdota92 (SB): $10.00 (100 bb) savac98 (BB): $8.97 (90 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with 7♦ 8♦ 1 fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, kox44x (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, savac98 (BB) calls $1.10, Paisting (CO) calls $0.80 Flop: ($3.65) 3♦ J♣ A♦ (3 players) savac98 (BB) checks, Paisting (CO) checks, kox44x (BU) bets $1.83, savac98 (BB) folds, Paisting (CO) calls $1.83 Turn: ($7.31) J♦ (2 players) Paisting (CO) bets $7.12 (all-in), kox44x (BU) calls $7.12 River: ($21.55) A♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.55 (Rake: $1.08) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows 7♦ 8♦ (a flush, Ace high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 42%, Flop: 38%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%) kox44x (BU) shows A♥ K♠ (a full house, Aces full of Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 58%, Flop: 62%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%) kox44x (BU) wins $20.47 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 1akeCare (UTG): $9.85 (99 bb) AlwaysAllIn0 (MP): $20.91 (209 bb) Storman (CO): $2.92 (29 bb) Makarius48 (BU): $7.47 (75 bb) Imaqtoie (SB): $11.96 (120 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.40 (104 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with T♥ K♠ 1 fold, AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) raises to $0.25, Storman (CO) calls $0.25, 2 players fold, Paisting (BB) calls $0.15 Flop: ($0.80) K♣ T♣ 6♠ (3 players) Paisting (BB) checks, AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) bets $0.60, Storman (CO) folds, Paisting (BB) raises to $10.15 (all-in), AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) calls $9.55 Turn: ($21.10) A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($21.10) 7♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.10 (Rake: $1.19) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows T♥ K♠ (two pair, Kings and Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) shows K♥ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Kings) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) AlwaysAllIn0 (MP) wins $19.91 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 2soon (UTG): $24.00 (240 bb) SpaceX031988 (MP): $12.81 (128 bb) zuusik (CO): $5.60 (56 bb) Paisting (BU): $11.73 (117 bb) Naldo35 (SB): $16.04 (160 bb) sfmoto (BB): $11.20 (112 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with T♥ T♦ 3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.40, Naldo35 (SB) 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) 4-bets to $11.73 (all-in), Naldo35 (SB) calls $10.53 Flop: ($23.56) A♣ 7♥ A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($23.56) 9♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($23.56) 7♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $23.56 (Rake: $1.18) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows T♥ T♦ (two pair, Aces and Tens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%) Naldo35 (SB) shows 9♠ 9♥ (a full house, Nines full of Aces) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%) Naldo35 (SB) wins $22.38 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players afu10 (UTG): $10.65 (107 bb) hans_one (MP): $11.56 (116 bb) 00vl63 (CO): $14.78 (148 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.25 (103 bb) andriano_LT (SB): $9.97 (100 bb) sfmoto (BB): $10.00 (100 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 9♠ 7♥ 1 fold, hans_one (MP) raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) calls $0.25, 2 players fold Flop: ($0.65) 7♠ 2♦ 4♦ (2 players) hans_one (MP) bets $0.35, Paisting (BU) raises to $1.40, hans_one (MP) calls $1.05 Turn: ($3.45) 9♥ (2 players) hans_one (MP) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $8.60 (all-in), hans_one (MP) calls $8.60 River: ($20.65) 4♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.65 (Rake: $1.16) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows 9♠ 7♥ (two pair, Nines and Sevens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%) hans_one (MP) shows A♣ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Fours) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%) hans_one (MP) wins $19.49 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 1akeCare (UTG): $9.27 (93 bb) RarzePutin (MP): $10.12 (101 bb) Krikkekrik (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) Demonshek (BU): $20.39 (204 bb) babsybaron (SB): $1.90 (19 bb) Paisting (BB): $10.15 (102 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BB with 6♦ 4♣ 1 fold, RarzePutin (MP) raises to $0.25, 3 players fold, Paisting (BB) calls $0.15 Flop: ($0.55) K♥ 6♣ 8♦ (2 players) Paisting (BB) checks, RarzePutin (MP) bets $0.36, Paisting (BB) calls $0.36 Turn: ($1.27) 4♠ (2 players) Paisting (BB) checks, RarzePutin (MP) bets $1.03, Paisting (BB) raises to $9.54 (all-in), RarzePutin (MP) calls $8.48 (all-in) River: ($20.29) 8♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $20.29 (Rake: $1.01) Showdown: Paisting (BB) shows 6♦ 4♣ (two pair, Eights and Sixes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%) RarzePutin (MP) shows K♣ J♣ (two pair, Kings and Eights) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%) RarzePutin (MP) wins $19.28 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players bolchevi62 (UTG): $9.95 (100 bb) Paisting (MP): $10.20 (102 bb) Kri5tof (CO): $28.33 (283 bb) Dimark51 (BU): $7.04 (70 bb) Sparvinho (SB): $11.36 (114 bb) kox44x (BB): $23.71 (237 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is MP with A♦ A♥ 1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.40, 3 players fold, kox44x (BB) 3-bets to $1.40, Paisting (MP) 4-bets to $10.20 (all-in), kox44x (BB) calls $8.80 Flop: ($20.45) J♥ J♣ 4♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.45) T♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.45) K♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.45 (Rake: $1.02) Showdown: Paisting (MP) shows A♦ A♥ (two pair, Aces and Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%) kox44x (BB) shows T♦ T♥ (a full house, Tens full of Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%) kox44x (BB) wins $19.43 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Hand delivered by Pokeit (https://pokeit.co/convert) Paisting (UTG): $10.00 (100 bb) Matheos2001 (MP): $4.20 (42 bb) Funkdoobiest (CO): $10.59 (106 bb) Vlary24 (BU): $7.20 (72 bb) YoungBloodAT (SB): $9.72 (97 bb) Aim11370034 (BB): $4.98 (50 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is UTG with A♠ A♥ Paisting (UTG) raises to $0.40, Matheos2001 (MP) 3-bets to $1, 3 players fold, Aim11370034 (BB) 4-bets to $3, Paisting (UTG) 5-bets to $10 (all-in), Matheos2001 (MP) calls $3.20 (all-in), 1 fold Flop: ($11.45) K♣ 3♣ 3♠ (2 players, 2 all-in) Turn: ($11.45) 8♦ (2 players, 2 all-in) River: ($11.45) J♣ (2 players, 2 all-in) Total pot: $11.45 (Rake: $0.57) Showdown: Paisting (UTG) shows A♠ A♥ (two pair, Aces and Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%) Matheos2001 (MP) shows J♦ J♥ (a full house, Jacks full of Threes) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%) Matheos2001 (MP) wins $10.88 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Hand delivered by Pokeit (https://pokeit.co/convert) kox44x (UTG): $21.75 (218 bb) Demonshek (MP): $11.38 (114 bb) braywa777 (CO): $16.20 (162 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.80 (108 bb) kombinator (SB): $14.66 (147 bb) FinnMol (BB): $7.00 (70 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8♦ 9♥ 1 fold, Demonshek (MP) raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) calls $0.25, 1 fold, FinnMol (BB) calls $0.15 Flop: ($0.80) T♥ 6♥ 8♠ (3 players) FinnMol (BB) bets $0.40, Demonshek (MP) raises to $1.60, Paisting (BU) calls $1.60, FinnMol (BB) folds Turn: ($4.40) 7♥ (2 players) Demonshek (MP) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $8.95 (all-in), Demonshek (MP) calls $8.95 River: ($22.30) 2♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $22.30 (Rake: $1.12) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows 8♦ 9♥ (a flush, Ten high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 33%, Turn: 81%, River: 0%) Demonshek (MP) shows K♥ T♣ (a flush, King high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 67%, Turn: 19%, River: 100%) Demonshek (MP) wins $21.18 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players foggz (UTG): $21.30 (213 bb) olly1109 (MP): $6.15 (62 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.00 (100 bb) kidofdota92 (BU): $11.16 (112 bb) PokerOrifice (SB): $10.10 (101 bb) benizakura10 (BB): $3.48 (35 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with A♦ A♥ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 2 players fold, benizakura10 (BB) 3-bets to $3.48 (all-in), Paisting (CO) calls $3.08 Flop: ($7.01) 8♦ J♠ 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($7.01) J♣ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($7.01) 5♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $7.01 (Rake: $0.35) Showdown: benizakura10 (BB) shows T♠ Q♠ (a flush, Queen high) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 20%, Flop: 97%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%) Paisting (CO) shows A♦ A♥ (two pair, Aces and Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 80%, Flop: 3%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%) benizakura10 (BB) wins $6.66 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players 18860412 (UTG): $10.14 (101 bb) Rootsboy1898 (MP): $9.92 (99 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.15 (102 bb) franmelwood (BU): $4.08 (41 bb) braywa777 (SB): $18.74 (187 bb) M_zockt (BB): $10.35 (104 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with K♦ K♣ 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.40, 1 fold, braywa777 (SB) calls $0.35, 1 fold Flop: ($0.90) 8♣ J♦ 9♣ (2 players) braywa777 (SB) bets $0.10, Paisting (CO) raises to $9.75 (all-in), braywa777 (SB) calls $9.65 Turn: ($20.40) A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.40) 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.40 (Rake: $1.02) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows K♦ K♣ (two pair, Kings and Nines) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%) braywa777 (SB) shows A♦ J♣ (two pair, Aces and Jacks) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%) braywa777 (SB) wins $19.38 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Jaachen520 (UTG): $10.71 (107 bb) Rigel1975 (MP): $10.81 (108 bb) hiding.by (CO): $10.61 (106 bb) Paisting (BU): $10.00 (100 bb) Sfera18 (SB): $9.85 (99 bb) Nakicen1 (BB): $18.00 (180 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with A♣ A♦ 2 players fold, hiding.by (CO) raises to $0.30, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $1.20, 1 fold, Nakicen1 (BB) calls $1.10, hiding.by (CO) calls $0.90 Flop: ($3.65) 9♦ J♦ Q♠ (3 players) Nakicen1 (BB) checks, hiding.by (CO) checks, Paisting (BU) checks Turn: ($3.65) 4♥ (3 players) Nakicen1 (BB) checks, hiding.by (CO) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $8.80 (all-in), Nakicen1 (BB) folds, hiding.by (CO) calls $8.80 River: ($21.25) Q♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $21.25 (Rake: $1.06) Showdown: Paisting (BU) shows A♣ A♦ (two pair, Aces and Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 84%, Flop: 70%, Turn: 80%, River: 0%) hiding.by (CO) shows K♣ Q♣ (three of a kind, Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 16%, Flop: 30%, Turn: 20%, River: 100%) hiding.by (CO) wins $20.19 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players Wolf11 (UTG): $10.09 (101 bb) LucyTheWitch (MP): $32.55 (326 bb) squ4444 (CO): $4.00 (40 bb) braywa777 (BU): $20.53 (205 bb) Paisting (SB): $10.30 (103 bb) koribut (BB): $11.23 (112 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is SB with A♣ K♥ 3 players fold, braywa777 (BU) calls $0.10, Paisting (SB) raises to $10.30 (all-in), 1 fold, braywa777 (BU) calls $10.20 Flop: ($20.70) J♥ Q♠ 6♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.70) 9♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.70) 3♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.70 (Rake: $1.04) Showdown: Paisting (SB) shows A♣ K♥ (high card, Ace) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 75%, Flop: 28%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%) braywa777 (BU) shows Q♣ A♥ (a pair of Queens) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 25%, Flop: 72%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%) braywa777 (BU) wins $19.66 888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players BigDaddy2088 (UTG): $4.90 (49 bb) Sparvinho (MP): $11.39 (114 bb) Paisting (CO): $10.20 (102 bb) tomalino16 (BU): $5.33 (53 bb) pagasp (SB): $10.05 (101 bb) 88lx88 (BB): $11.19 (112 bb) Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is CO with K♥ A♠ BigDaddy2088 (UTG) calls $0.10, Sparvinho (MP) raises to $0.40, Paisting (CO) 3-bets to $10.20 (all-in), 4 players fold, Sparvinho (MP) calls $9.80 Flop: ($20.65) J♦ 4♥ 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in) Turn: ($20.65) 2♦ (2 players, 1 all-in) River: ($20.65) 2♥ (2 players, 1 all-in) Total pot: $20.65 (Rake: $1.03) Showdown: Paisting (CO) shows K♥ A♠ (a pair of Twos) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%) Sparvinho (MP) shows A♣ J♠ (two pair, Jacks and Twos) (Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 93%, River: 100%) Sparvinho (MP) wins $19.62 And those was only few of those. I have talk about proven cheater, the Ukrainian player kox44x, and have very clear evidence that he is using a bot program, has seen cards, or maybe both. The evidence includes precise timings and suspicious plays, such as calling down small aces like A3 with A4 only when the opponent has a smaller kicker. This is not a consistent play but happens at specific times, indicating something unusual. Additionally, his stats changed overnight, which was noticed by another player who shared these stats with me and had also suspected kox44x of cheating. One alarming aspect that should have been taken seriously by the site is that kox44x is an active member of a Russian site called Pekarstas. I translated a lot of content from that site and found that it sells datamining services for many poker sites, including 888, and several other major sites. This alone should have warranted an investigation into kox44x. I was informed by support that they were taking this issue seriously, which has happened a couple of times. I assumed they had investigated him, but I was surprised to see that he was still playing after that. Things started to get really strange when I noticed that he is always at the tables, playing around the clock. This made me question whether he was ever really under investigation. You might remember when people launched a coordinated attack against my account, causing it to be blocked for a couple of weeks and costing me hundreds of dollars. I reviewed my database from the day I reported and sent evidence about kox44x, received an email that they were taking it seriously, and the weeks following that. I noticed that he was playing the entire time without a single day of account suspension. I discussed this situation with the license holder of the largest poker sites, provided all the same evidence, and explained everything. We had a very good conversation, and they took me seriously. The main point is that one of the key responsibilities of poker site is to take cheating suspicions seriously and thoroughly investigate them. The evidence I have provided about this player is more than enough to warrant an investigation. If there is a mistake or neglect in not taking this situation seriously, it’s not something the license holder can just say to site "be more specific in the future." I will keep you updated on what happens with this situation.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58626690#post58626690)

You might remember when people launched a coordinated attack against my account, causing it to be blocked for a couple of weeks and saving me hundreds of dollars.

ftfy Great month paisting. Especially those last 1.3k hands. Truly awe inspiring.

by NJPW m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58626698#post58626698)

ftfy Great month paisting. Especially those last 1.3k hands. Truly awe inspiring.

You are now talking **** about the situation which led to criminal reports. One time again you make these false claims and you are blocked from this topic. It cost me over 800 dollars that went to expired tournament tickets and need to use translation services to get the situation resolved. It was pure criminal act against me and massive loss only from people with mean purpose.

Would love to see these so called "criminal reports".

by NJPW m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58626721#post58626721)

Would love to see these so called "criminal reports".

In agreement with site moderators I’m not opening those here. Everything and main points are told here earlier like how people lied about being my relatives etc really sick and criminal stuff.

Lol Paisting, you ran 225$ above EV and you're hiding the ev-line to be able to whine about running bad, classic. Proven hoaxer.

Paisting turns out to be a massive liar. He ran way above EV, then tries to hide the graph while pretending he got sucked out on. Or he doesnt understand numbers.

by ulosen m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58626756#post58626756)

while pretending he got sucked out on

250 dollars to suckouts this month, 300 dollars last month, 200 dollars on April, 150 dollars on March, 120 dollars on February and 115 dollars on January and I have not posted 2 years straight every month without normal variance at all. Do you understand number and see what I post? Those hands are the hands I should beat **** out of those whales and take their money in 15 minutes. I lose every big pair to worst pair. I lose very ace to ace worst kicker. And every massive equity hand on flop or turn I lose on river to absolute garbage.

Nice month, if you avoided punting at the end, would be one of the better months. Like ~ -30bb/100h after rake is progress.

Ran good this month (like every other month) but still complaining about being unlucky. Paisting a liar.

Hi Paisting. How come you run above EV almost every month? Have you rigged the sites or something? I wish I ran as well as you

The problem as I likely see it is theres no way to reward Paisting for his work. Im not sure how we would set that up in a way that guarantees his privacy but we need a way for people to be able to donate money to paisting as a thank you. On the other hand, I am enjoying thinking about the possibility that rather than being a degenerate gambler, he is playing reverse poker, proposing a reverse poker competition, and currently doing quite well. if thats the case I hope someone has the poker abilities to take up the challenge!

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58626690#post58626690)

June is over and suckouts on 888 are getting worst and worst. 252 dollars to suckouts. Last month: 3x 90%+ suckouts 9x 80-90% suckouts 10x 70-80% suckouts 7x 65-70% suckouts [/color] (

what about the rest of your game? ie VP/PFR, WWSF..... Are you still trying to grind back 16k or is this just your person bad beat thread?

by mike1270 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58627185#post58627185)

what about the rest of your game? ie VP/PFR, WWSF..... Are you still trying to grind back 16k or is this just your person bad beat thread?

That doesn't matter, he can stack off as a favorite 20 times / month, why should he worry about the rest of the 15000 hands?

by mike1270 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58627185#post58627185)

Are you still trying to grind back 16k or is this just your person bad beat thread?

It was 16K back in 2019. Its likely over 60K now. Yes, this is now a bad beat thread where he discusses the 20 or so hands out of 1000 total hands played that he loses as a favourite each night. The other 980 don't matter.

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58629412#post58629412)

It was 16K back in 2019. Its likely over 60K now. Yes, this is now a bad beat thread where he discusses the 20 or so hands out of 1000 total hands played that he loses as a favourite each night. The other 980 don't matter.

Can you tell me what kind of starting hands or what kind of hits on flop I make money then? It not bad beat when I show these hands month after month.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58630044#post58630044)

Can you tell me what kind of starting hands or what kind of hits on flop I make money then? It not bad beat when I show these hands month after month.

Judging by your graphs not many , we don't know though because you only show a handful of bad beats and ignore and are in denial of the real problems

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58626846#post58626846)

Hi Paisting. How come you run above EV almost every month? Have you rigged the sites or something? I wish I ran as well as you

avoiding this question huh, probably because you are a superuser and are tampering with the RNG to run so much above EV

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58630044#post58630044)

Can you tell me what kind of starting hands or what kind of hits on flop I make money then? It not bad beat when I show these hands month after month.

I don't think you have a problem with hand selection, I think you have a problem with tilt. In the hands you post, for the most part you don't play terribly and I don't think anyone would argue that you in fact do get bad beat or sucked out on. The problem is you don't post the other 1000s of hands that you play. We can only assume that you get bad beat a couple times and then start shoving full stacks in the middle with any random 2 cards because you're tilted. You don't lose 60K playing premium hands and getting bad beat. You can lose 60K playing premium hands, getting bad beat and then throwing all poker theory out the window and shoving full stacks with any 2 cards because you're upset. Stop posting your sob story bad beats and start posting entire session graphs and sample hands where you did more than lose with the best hand preflop. Change or continue to lose. Your call.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58607138#post58607138)

That is solver size and solver plays against one people. Raising so small is one of the biggest preflop mistakes you can make on those games. You get constantly 3-4 callers on those games. It's also huge mistake in every aspect of poker theorems out there. "You wanna raise maximum they call". The game hasn't changed so much that you can throw the basic theorems out of the windo... See full post

Here you go. Read the full Postflop article and follow it 1 by 1, you win. At least will play break even and not lose anymore. If you dont follow it, you will lose. https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thre... (https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=544931) And again: Your EV is -60. No one cares about your suckouts.

by foxcatcher m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58638411#post58638411)

Here you go. Read the full Postflop article And again: Your EV is -60. No one cares about your suckouts.

That site is classic example how do pyramid hoax works. That's why it's canceled in many countries.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58638766#post58638766)

That site is classic example how do pyramid hoax works. That's why it's canceled in many countries.

Boring… Still beating this dead horse, P?

by swerbs22 m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58638797#post58638797)

Boring… Still beating this dead horse, P?

To be fair, aside from his own dick, it's the only thing he can beat.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58638766#post58638766)

That site is classic example how do pyramid hoax works. That's why it's canceled in many countries.

You are mentally challenged. No one can help you. You will lose forever. PS: If you are too lazy or dumb to read and understand the article, just say so. We are not mad.

Pastings, come on bro lol

Dude c'mon seriously just stop, block payments from your bank accounts to poker or gaming sites. It is genuinely painful to read this thread and the worst part of it there are so many people who have tried hard to help you but you dismiss them. Just out of curiosity, can a site ban a player on responsible play grounds based on posts here and elsewhere because it seems like it is the only way to help him. And yes I know "why would they when they get so much from him?"

by MarkDavis m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641356#post58641356)

And yes I know "why would they when they get so much from him?"

I can ban you in 1 second from this topic just because you totally seem to deny that those amounts of suck outs per month are not normal.

You'd have to ban everyone else aswell then cause nobody agrees with you

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58639040#post58639040)

Your customer service is full of ****. People who work for Olybet doesn't know anything about poker and when you give feedback they block your account. If you Negreanu see this do something about it.

Laughing my ****ing ass off. So now you have told olybet support that the site is rigged and thank god they have banned you. How the fock is it possible to be that stupid? How are you still alive? On a sidenote olybet is one of the best sites in eu atm and the support is like old stars good. Imagine being that stupid to play in games you thikn are fixed against you and still after losing 100k+ to the smallest games possible you still continue to prove your point. And no one with half of a brain believes you lol. by J.E.C m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641797#post58641797)

You'd have to ban everyone else aswell then cause nobody agrees with you

She will never ban anyone because this is the only thing in his pathetic little life. She needs the attention.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641784#post58641784)

I can ban you in 1 second from this topic just because you totally seem to deny that those amounts of suck outs per month are not normal.

You are completely right Paisting. The amount of times you are so lucky again and suck out per month is not normal. The last monthly graphs you always run above EV. How are you so lucky, its not normal!!!

by ImePaskaa m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641850#post58641850)

Laughing my ****ing ass off. So now you have told olybet support that the site is rigged and thank god they have banned you. How the fock is it possible to be that stupid? How are you still alive? On a sidenote olybet is one of the best sites in eu atm and the support is like old stars good.Imagine being that stupid to play in games you thikn are fixed against you and still aft... See full post

What you try to talk? It's even more rigged site. Everytime you have AK there is AA or KK against. Do you understand math? I can tell that is not normal, it's favouring ******ed whale. And their customer support is shitting on peoples face. In this hand typical green marked ******ed whale. Making **** pants donk bets. On turn I punish his stupid whale and these are the hands I should beat they in 15 minutes and take all their money. But with even 95% equity site won't let that happen. Pure manipulated RNG, working just like I've been told how sites want to it work. And that customer service idiot should be fired in 1 second. You can't be allowed to post that kind of pure **** to people after losing to whale.

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That customer service reply is gold xD <3

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641784#post58641784)

I can ban you in 1 second from this topic just because you totally seem to deny that those amounts of suck outs per month are not normal.

LOL, go ahead. Anyway can you point out where I am supposed to have even commented in any way on your suckouts?.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641946#post58641946)

And that customer service idiot should be fired in 1 second. You can't be allowed to post that kind of pure **** to people after losing to whale.... See full post

She showed more poker understanding in 2 sentences than you have in 5 years to be fair

by Slugant m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641930#post58641930)

You are completely right Paisting. The amount of times you are so lucky again and suck out per month is not normal. The last monthly graphs you always run above EV. How are you so lucky, its not normal!!!

ignoring the difficult questions huh paisting. Probably because you are rigging the EV in your favor yourself!

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641946#post58641946)

Haha Paisty, she completely owned you. 😃 😮

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58641946#post58641946)

In this hand typical green marked ******ed whale. Making **** pants donk bets. On turn I punish his stupid whale and these are the hands I should beat they in 15 minutes and take all their money. But with even 95% equity site won't let that happen. Pure manipulated RNG, working just like I've been told how sites want to it work.

1. Fold K9offsuit preflop
2. There is no reason to shove allin on the turn. This likely lost you the hand. If you raise to 3 or 4 there is a good chance villain folds because that would seem like a reasonable play for someone who has a hand that can beat pocket 8s.
3. If villain called turn you now have to check the river because a flush is easy to have or you bluff and hope for the best. You likely save money here because you have to fold.
4. Villain made a bad play and got lucky. They likely made the play based on previous hands where you shoved with garbage. Once again your "style" of play cost you money.

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58643364#post58643364)

1. Fold K9offsuit preflop2) There is no reason to shove allin on the turn. This likely lost you the hand. If you raise to 3 or 4 there is a good chance villain folds because that would seem like a reasonable play for someone who has a hand that can beat pocket 8s. 3) If villain called turn you now have to check the river because a flush is easy to have or you bluff and hope for... See full post

Interesting analysis taking account that I made him call all his money with 5% equity. It's called total crushing. If I lose that pot I think the problem is with site RNG not my play.

So just take the cashout and print f millions?

by Mike Femton m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58643624#post58643624)

So just take the cashout and print f millions?

the objective is not to make money, it is to prove to the world that RNGs are rigged (while also losing a quarter million dollars at the lowest stakes available). please respect the process!

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58643559#post58643559)

Interesting analysis taking account that I made him call all his money with 5% equity. It's called total crushing. If I lose that pot I think the problem is with site RNG not my play.

I would love to see a court case on this. Judge: Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, in the case of the Plaintiff vs Pokersites on the charge of rigging the RNG, how do you find the defendant? Jury: Not guilty Plaintiff: No ****ing way I was totally crushing. I made him press call with 5% equity. Judge: Silence or I will hold you in contempt, a full house is better than two pair and shipping 100BB to a 3BB raise is downright stupid. Defendant spokesperson statement afterwards: We are delighted with the verdict today and welcome the player to continue to play at our tables as his unique playing style has increased our rake tenfold in the last five years. Plaintiff statement afterwards: Disappointed with the outcome today but never mind I will grind my way to the 16k. I just have to make them respect my BB.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58599921#post58599921)

I post every month about 20 hand where I lose with 70-95% equity to show people that is not normal working poker site. Go through to hands and look how much there is shoving and with any 2. Those your any 2 has 80-90% equity against those whales. 888 just don't let me run over them like it should be and those idiots should lose money in 15 minutes.

Do you think most people who play thousands or tens of thousands of hands every month would have much trouble finding 20 hands in their recent hand history, where they lost with 80% or more equity? Seriously man, you need help, and I don't mean poker coaching. You live in a country where you can get help much more easily and cheaper than in most places on the planet, and I suggest you use that opportunity for your own well being. This is a genuinely depressing thread and should probably be education material for mental health professionals.

by DeezedFourz m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58644818#post58644818)

Do you think most people who play thousands or tens of thousands of hands every month would have much trouble finding 20 hands in their recent hand history, where they lost with 80% or more equity?

Why I don't see that anywhere and what's the most important thing, not that high frequency? And no, it's not normal to get 20-30 suckouts every month now over 2 years in row without any month that is not happening.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58645139#post58645139)

Why I don't see that anywhere

Because everyone else realises it's juts part of the game and that no one cares about their bad beat stories

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58643559#post58643559)

It's called total crushing.

I love you Paisting. This is why I'm subscribed to this thread. Thank you 😀

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58645139#post58645139)

Why I don't see that anywhere and what's the most important thing, not that high frequency? And no, it's not normal to get 20-30 suckouts every month now over 2 years in row without any month that is not happening.

Is it normal variance to be above EV with 21.5 buy ins even tho they were lucky against you 20-30 times? by Mike Femton m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58643624#post58643624)

So just take the cashout and print f millions?

This dummy was criing for allin cashout function for 2 years because he tough that means he presses a button mid hand and they award him the full pot uncontested. That's the kind of genius we're dealing with.

I had a couple of minutes to waste, since starting the thread he lost based on the monthly graphs: -$41815 with an EV of -$40401 but he had couple of losing months worth of -$2693 when he was ashamed of how lucky he was and censored the EV info and a couple of times he didn't post monthly graph, probably for the same reason or w/e. He dumped an additional $3k on tournaments. A sound estimation of total losses are -$50k Finally, a legendary table makeup from the start of the thread when he was raging for an AK < whatever badbeat. Player5 (UTG): $43.34 (2167 bb) Player6 (MP): $22.33 (1117 bb) Player1 (CO): $20.89 (1045 bb) Player2 (BU): $36.31 (1816 bb) Player3 (SB): $29.62 (1481 bb) Paisting (BB): $2.00 (100 bb) Good job Pastry!

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58643559#post58643559)

Interesting analysis taking account that I made him call all his money with 5% equity. It's called total crushing. If I lose that pot I think the problem is with site RNG not my play.

You're missing the point as per usual. Your pattern of play leads people to make decisions that they normally wouldn't under different circumstances. In the situations that you hand pick you are often ahead and get bad beat, but I am certain there are 1000s of more situations where you shoved with garbage and people call down light and beat you. This type of strategy could be costing you money because people are so willing to call you down in these spots that you have lost the ability to get people to fold out hands. It is easy to say "why would I want someone to fold when they're behind"? Clearly we don't want people to fold when they are behind, however if your opponents never fold when you make plays like this then you leave yourself open to more variance because they turn into situations where you cant' control the flop, turn or river. Control of the flop, turn and river would be having the ability to fold your cards on scare boards, get your opponents to fold on scare boards, bluff, check call, check raise, get opponents to call one too many streets, make a sizeable bet on the river to get someone off a stronger hand and basically utilize every poker concept that winning, breakeven and losing players use every day. Your decision to just rip it for full stacks or over bets at any given point limits your ability to actually play poker. Bad beats or not, your style of play is not profitable. End of story.

by enzet m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646075#post58646075)

I had a couple of minutes to waste, since starting the thread he lost based on the monthly graphs:

Thanks for your effort bro! Maybe your next work would be how and with what stakes and games is the road to win something like that.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646251#post58646251)

Thanks for your effort bro! Maybe your next work would be how and with what stakes and games is the road to win something like that.

Would be a great lesson for you if the government finds out who you are and sues you for the full amount of welfare money you gave away in gambling sites. 😀

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646251#post58646251)

Thanks for your effort bro! Maybe your next work would be how and with what stakes and games is the road to win something like that.

How: accept that you don't know how to play poker or that your current style is not profitable and make a decision to change. What: There are no stakes that you can win at with your playing style, eventually people catch on to what you're doing. Change or keep losing. Edit: You should move to omaha. The pot limit style of play will limit your ability to just dump a stack in preflop. It will also allow you to bet large amounts at certain points in the hand (which you seem to love) that will actually benefit you in the hand. Omaha is all about punishing people for drawing to junk. You seem to be fixed on punishing people with your superior holdings so Omaha is right for you. The downside is that people will suck out on you and likely a lot. You also have to learn how to fold on scary flops, scary turns and gut wrenching rivers which you may have trouble with. The upside is that you can only ever bet pot and people don't like folding to 3bets preflop. Give it a go, you're already 50K in the hole whats a few thousand more to try a new game.

by DingusEgg m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646446#post58646446)

You should move to omaha.

I have always said that Omaha is like roulette, gambling without any skill. If we think guys who many think are good player and winners like Sami Kelopuro and Phil Galfond, look their hands. It's always big news when they make million dollars in one hand but when we look that hand we see that it was only coinflip like one round of slots. They the real sick gamblers. They play million dollars round with hand that has 50% equity without any skill. And maybe Phil Galfond has won lots of money, but must say that when watching his streams, only thing comes to my mind is that why he is so popular. When he played no limit holdem his calls are really bad. Like totally whale calls. Even I know you can't make those calls out oof position he makes. He plays same style that whales on micros, calling with total air on flop to hope hit something. Look his streams, it's just ****ing bad. But this is my Omaha test. Cost me over 500 dollars. All hands on nl2. And tell me how the **** is possible that on nl2 only hand they reraise is AA? They even fold fold KK. On nl2. Every player most be house bots making rake to site that is absurd high on Omaha. Pure slot game.

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at least you ran under ev though

These are rookie numbers. I bet you can't make your graph a straight vertical line.

by Mr Spyutastic m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646691#post58646691)

These are rookie numbers. I bet you can't make your graph a straight vertical line.

These numbers show that omaha is same luck game than roulette and blackjack.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646711#post58646711)

These numbers show that omaha is same luck game than roulette and blackjack.

Do the holdem graphs not show the same?

Paisting if you were Adrian Mateos in the main event losing AA to AK would you have stopped shoving all in every hand to sleep yet?

by herbalerv m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646745#post58646745)

Paisting if you were Adrian Mateos in the main event losing AA to AK would you have stopped shoving all in every hand to sleep yet?

People who pay 10k to play one tournament to lose some idiot are just stupid.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646801#post58646801)

People who pay 10k to play one tournament to lose some idiot are just stupid.

And people who lose over 100k playing a certain way and continue to do it are ____________. Fill in the blank please.

Seems like Paisty is off the meds recently. Very corny. 😃

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646516#post58646516)

I have always said that Omaha is like roulette, gambling without any skill. If we think guys who many think are good player and winners like Sami Kelopuro and Phil Galfond, look their hands. It's always big news when they make million dollars in one hand but when we look that hand we see that it was only coinflip like one round of slots. They the real sick gamblers. They play m... See full post

You just don't know how to play omaha yet and to be honest how is this graph any different than the ones you post in here already? Omaha is a drawing game and sometimes you are drawing to a hand that only has a slight statistical edge. The reason I say you would like omaha is that it is based around equities which you seem to love to point out. The real skill in omaha is learning and knowing when to fold. That is how you make money in the game.

Paisting have you thought about trying razz?

by herbalerv m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58648001#post58648001)

Paisting have you thought about trying razz?

Honestly with some of the things I've read from Pasting I wouldn't even feel comfortable really letting him play Bingo

paisting you can only get stacked once in an MTT, but the potential stacking of nerds is unlimited

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58643559#post58643559)

Interesting analysis taking account that I made him call all his money with 5% equity. It's called total crushing. If I lose that pot I think the problem is with site RNG not my play.

You never had a winning month in years. Quit poker. I believe you, its the RNG, now quit poker. See whats happening in your brain right now? Its an addiction. You need to stop.

by foxcatcher m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58649750#post58649750)

You never had a winning month in years.

That is my main goal at the moment. Take money from those hole heads who are just massive whales. There is zero good player in those pools I play. My screens blinks so green for all those whale tags that I don't see even cards clear.

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58649966#post58649966)

That is my main goal at the moment. Take money from those hole heads who are just massive whales. There is zero good player in those pools I play. My screens blinks so green for all those whale tags that I don't see even cards clear.

I love how you just ignore everything else I wrote. What makes you think this is going to happen if the RNG is rigged since two years man!?!

by foxcatcher m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58650366#post58650366)

I love how you just ignore everything else I wrote. What makes you think this is going to happen if the RNG is rigged since two years man!?!

two years? this thread is over 5.5 years old and his blog on Finnish forums dates back much further than that. an insurmountable amount of government aid has been giften to low stakes players :/ literally > $200k. Sweden has its own Paisting. check out the best youtube streamer Raph Darko (https://www.youtube.com/@raphdarkopoker). they may as well be the same person apart from Raph being very charismatic and funny. best poker streamer on the internet imo. severely entertaining.

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58650679#post58650679)

Sweden has its own Paisting. check out the best youtube streamer Raph Darko (https://www.youtube.com/@raphdarkopoker). they may as well be the same person apart from Raph being very charismatic and funny. best poker streamer on the internet imo. severely entertaining.

He’s horribad, but still not ever close to Paisting’s ballpark.

Eastyyy22 is streaming!Can u enter those pools and crush him Paisting?!Thank you in advance! Sent from my SM-A528B using Tapatalk

by enzet m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58651157#post58651157)

He’s horribad, but still not ever close to Paisting’s ballpark.

in terms of being on tilt 24/7, claiming that the RNG is rigged and always being unlucky, they are basically the same person. very entertaining to watch! i highly recommend his stream. please support him 😀

by MastaAces m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58656519#post58656519)

in terms of being on tilt 24/7, claiming that the RNG is rigged and always being unlucky, they are basically the same person. very entertaining to watch! i highly recommend his stream. please support him 😀

Yeah, that's true, a valid option for Paisting, Tony G could sponsor him too if he can average 60 viewers like this guy.

really disaster?

Paisting got no chance of winning if those whales keep sucking out on him :(

This month I tried something new. I left 888 poker games for a month and wanted to test how many bad beats happen in GG's games. So I spent the whole month playing NL10 rush and cash games and the number of hands played was quite good. I lost $350. There weren't nearly as many bad beats as in 888 games, though there were still some. A speciality of GG's games is that every time you have AK the whale has AA or KK. This happened over 20 times during the month. It raises the question of what kind of deck they are using. Their customer service is absolute crap. They quickly block your account if you complain about things. Otherwise, the games are quite different. It feels like GG's games are full of bots and the play lines are really odd. No limping and very strange lines in reraised pots. Now for the good news. The Gambling Commission has forced 888 to start an investigation about the player kox44x. This will likely lead to him being completely banned from the site and funds being returned to many players. You need to thank me for this thing.

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You also lost another 30 buy ins in rake, but GG prolly has you flagged as VIP anyways, so maybe ur on sick RB. So it started with Pokerstars, then 888, then ACR, then 888 again and now GG; seems like the whole marekt is corrupt. I mean it's either that, or... 😉

Hmm that's an interesting observation. I think you should play a lot more hands and then you will have a huge sample size of them rigging the games, therefore you will have a better case of reporting their site as well as the bots playing in it.

imagine every poker site being rigged against you, talk about bad luck 🙂 at least the gambling commission has forced to investigate a player who gave you a bad beat once lolol

by Paisting m (https://www.twoplustwo.com/post?postId=58646516#post58646516)

And tell me how the **** is possible that on nl2 only hand they reraise is AA? They even fold fold KK. On nl2. Every player most be house bots making rake to site that is absurd high on Omaha. Pure slot game.... See full post

In PLO you have 4 cards, not just 2 like in no-limit holdem. So when people select their pre-flop strategy, they look at 4 cards, not 2 (maybe you were always just looking at your 2 best cards and ignoring the other 2). Hope that helps!