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Luck Vs luck

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agu10Newbie2 posts
Posted Jul 7, 2026, 6:33 PM#1

I think poker games are 90% luck then maybe πŸ€” 10% luck ..

thornvaNewbie3 posts
Posted Jul 9, 2026, 5:43 PM#2

Nope, in the short run it's mostly luck, but across thousands of hands the 10% ability genuinely becomes apparent

frostraNewbie3 posts
Posted Jul 9, 2026, 6:47 PM#3

nah short-term variance is wild but over the long run the math doesn't lie β€” you can't bluff your way through 100k hands on luck alone

syleonMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Jul 9, 2026, 7:18 PM#4

Honestly, that basically sums up my whole poker career in a single line πŸ˜‚

raxtha68Newbie1 posts
Posted Jul 9, 2026, 8:39 PM#5

So you're saying it's 100% luck with 10% skill layered on top? Sounds about right for my last session, to be honest

steinryNewbie3 posts
Posted Jul 9, 2026, 8:50 PM#6

that math isn't adding up, but honestly I feel this deep in my soul after last night's bad beats

larski2Newbie4 posts
Posted Jul 9, 2026, 9:49 PM#7

that 90% luck 10% luck math is giving me a headache but I can't argue with it ngl

lorramiaMicro-Stakes Grinder12 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 12:12 AM#8

I recall a hand from years back where I shoved with absolute garbage merely to steal the blinds, and somehow rivered a full house, causing the opponent to tilt so badly he sat out for a month. That 10% ability likely activated when I chose to leverage that wild victory as my table image for the following two hours.

sophkaon9Micro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 3:19 AM#9

If you want to nudge the odds in favor of that tiny sliver of skill, begin recording your session notes right after you get up from the table while the reads remain fresh.

frostolesseMicro-Stakes Grinder8 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 3:44 AM#10

yeah its basically all luck till u bluff the righht guy at the right moment

ZylixlynMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 4:08 AM#11

It genuinely seems like a 90% game of chance until you face someone who strips every bet-sizing tell down like an onion. My view is that the skill only becomes apparent across thousands of hands, but on any given Tuesday night anything can occur.

vyxynythNewbie4 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 10:05 AM#12

fr i once sat at a 1/2 table for 6 hours and only won a single pot where i bluffed with 7 2 offsuit and the villain folded kings face up. that 10% skill is just knowing when to get lucky i guess lol

vaeliraxNewbie1 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 1:40 PM#13

I spent three months diligently recording every session and the harsh truth was that my biggest winning nights came when my draws hit far beyond expectation, not when I believed I’d played especially well.

RavirtiaNewbie4 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 2:20 PM#14

On a single hand luck steamrolls everything but over a month the guy who always 3 bets too wide bleeds off his rent while the nit picks up crumbs, so I lean more toward the grind rewarding discipline than the coinflip fantasy.

kovaevanNewbie2 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 4:47 PM#15

Poker is mostly watchng paint dry punctuated by 60 second bursts of misery, so either way the house wins.

nyxellyn937Micro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Jul 10, 2026, 5:17 PM#16

I once folded pocket aces preflop in a home game cause my buddy had this twitch he does only with monsters, and he snap called with kings then spiked a set on the flop anyway so maybe its 90% luck plus 10% your friends are bad liars lol

luxuriantly45Micro-Stakes Grinder10 posts
Posted Jul 11, 2026, 2:15 AM#17

haha i swear its more like 99% luck cause i ran queens into aces three times in one night last week, couldn't do a thing about it

LorerraMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Jul 11, 2026, 8:03 AM#18

honestly id take 90% luck over thinking you can outplay the river

tyceonMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Jul 11, 2026, 9:59 AM#19

idk man, if its 90% luck the same names wouldnt keep showing up at final tables every week

wineienneMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Jul 11, 2026, 11:05 AM#20

Do you think tournaments are more dependent on luck compared with cash games? Because in cash games I feel like skill asserts itself more quickly.

Rexver2Newbie3 posts
Posted Jul 11, 2026, 1:45 PM#21

I once accidentally won a pot with 7 2 offsuit, so yeah, it was definitely luck.

sylastNewbie2 posts
Posted Jul 11, 2026, 3:25 PM#22

so does the 10% luck you mentioned show up before the flop, or only after the river has already wrecked you β€” or is it just the same luck pulling double duty πŸ˜‚

lilyurundMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Jul 11, 2026, 3:27 PM#23

I disagree, to be honest β€” if it were mainly luck then any two hands would behave identically, but the true difference is how players manage position and control the pot across hundreds of deals.

winesap3Newbie1 posts
Posted Jul 11, 2026, 3:34 PM#24

Follow a single hand you folded and count how frequently it would have won.

LuxlorMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Jul 12, 2026, 7:28 AM#25

I used to believe it was mostly luck until I noticed that whenever I played tilted I ended up giving my stack to the same composed players, so the 10% skill seems modest but it continuously supports the same people over months.

peltraMicro-Stakes Grinder6 posts
Posted Jul 12, 2026, 10:09 AM#26

Love that you gave luck 90% and still managed to find room for another 10% of luck β€” that arithmetic is the most honest thing I’ve ever seen about poker.

luxuriantly45Micro-Stakes Grinder10 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2026, 6:09 PM#27

i had a session where i folded aces preflop to a huge 5 bet and the guy showed kings, pure luck he didnt hit the 2 outer but the real skill was folding 200bb deep cause i noticed he only did that wih KK+. so yeah luck keeps the cards flipin but grinding out 80k hands taught me the edge is in the folds nobody claps for

irisorienneNewbie3 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2026, 6:31 PM#28

lol yeah its mostly luck in the short bursts but the pain is real when you grid for 3 hours and get cracked by some dude chasing a gutshot. idk maybe the 10% luck is the prat where you somehow still deposit next week

vyxkatosMicro-Stakes Grinder5 posts
Posted Jul 13, 2026, 11:38 PM#29

I accidentally folded pocket aces before the flop, and the flop turned up all low cards, so maybe that was 90% luck rescuing me from my own mistake

NaloralrelNewbie3 posts
Posted Jul 15, 2026, 2:48 PM#30

nah 90% luck combined with 10% luck means it's simply 100% luck and your math teacher would cry

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